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TenQ:
You don't know!?

What does science say about the entropy of the universe. Is it constant, decreasing or increasing?

Now you want to continue the conversation because I called you out on your inability to refute logically? You are a clown. I am not interested in having a civil conversation with you anymore because you have revealed to me that there is a beast of burden beneath that sensible christian veneer you tried to hoodwink people with from the beginning of this thread. You are not interested in anything logical or even science. You just want to assert that your god exists and we must accept it as a fact. Freaking nitwit.

TenQ:
You didn't make any argument. You came in splashing about like a drowning orangutan. That post wasn't referring to you. It was a response to someone else based on the conversations we've had.

If you had come to defend him, then started from where the conversation led to my comment to him

You are obviously an odious buffoon. The post wasn't about me but the question was posed to you like a gentleman just to hear what you will say and you replied like a gentleman because you thought you had a point. Then after like 6 or 7 back and forth comments between you and I that you realized you didn't know what to add anymore since you can't prove your claims just like you can't prove your god, you decided it was better to attack my personality instead.

You are a fool. A worst fool I am yet to meet.

TenQ:
Even though I wasn't referring to you, your coming in shows a psychopathic problem that some people have when they hear about the Name of whom they have rejected.

Stay in your lane as you are free to choose to believe ANYTHING you want. The only thing is you are bound by the consequence of your action. It is a universal law!

Lol. This guy has lost his mind after being force fed logic. You were trying to act like you were smart before until you realize you couldn't refute my arguments and now you have started using ad hominem to cloud your foolishness instead of refuting logically.

Let me make it clear because it's obvious you lack comprehension skills and intelligence. The guy is opposing your religion and not spiderman because your god is not different from spiderman but you have elevated it to new heights of foolishness and have started making political discussions about it and setting laws because of it. If you treated your religion the same way people who love comic book characters treat theirs, you won't be here right now chewing cod, lost for words and being petulant.

It doesn't take long for these Christian clowns to lose their mind and start drooling when they can't come up with sound responses. Poor thing. I feel sorry for you. Lol

TenQ:
Will the Universe as we know it remain forever?

We don't know how the universe will end exactly or if it will actually ever do so. It is just speculations based on what we can predict with our limited understanding of physics. Like I said some belief in a recurring big bang. That is an expansion like we are having now and a subsequent contraction back to the state before the Big Bang. Others believe other things. That's why they usually qualify it with the words "as we know it". There are some things we may never know. The universe as we know it may end but it says nothing of what form it will take after or what happens beyond the predictive powers of our current scientific models.

It doesn't matter anyway since we know the universe exists and the earth is in it. No one is arguing about the existence of the universe. The same cannot be said for your god whose only proof of existence is the ridiculous untestable claims of his believers. Which by all sense is no more plausible than the proof of the existence of spider-man and superman.

TenQ:
It is scientifically accepted that the universe has a beginning about 13.8billion years.
It is scientifically accepted that the universe with end through the dissipation of its energy.

The universe cannot logically create itself.Why?
It needs to be a timeless constant entity.
It should not be subject to the laws of physics

Nope. It's scientifically accepted that the universe as we know it began something like 13.8 billion years ago. That is done by extrapolating from our current position and the rate of expansion of the universe. It says nothing about the Big Bang or the state of the universe before the Big Bang. In fact there are some who actually think that it is not just one bang but a recurring series of expansions and contractions. Anything before the Big bang cannot be known with our current knowledge of physics. And no scientist worth his onions can claim for a fact he/she knows.

So yeah the universe is no different from your god. Because we don't know it's cause or it's actual beginning. But it is even better than your god if only for the mere fact that we can see it, trace and prove it's existence.

By the way, why do you think the universe or any creator should not be subject to the laws of physics? Where is it stated that is a rule? Oh I remember you came to that conclusion all by yourself based on dogma and not with any proof. Just like your religion.

TenQ:
What's troubling you?
Why are you this angry?

I don't care about spiderman, superman or batman, yet nothing you say about them can make me angry!
I don't care about Santa Claus, but I am not obsessed with disproving it (don't forget that every december, these are pushed into my face)!!

What are you hiding from?

You can discuss like an adult without the anger tantrums!!

Trying to equate your religion to Santa or SuperMan and using the exclusive opposition to yours alone as a crutch to assert the truth of your religion is dishonest at best.
Everyone knows the aforementioned are make-believe. Nobody has started a making assertions about the afterlife solely on comic book characters or Santa. No one has asked for political laws to be drafted to suit the belief in Santa. No one has tried to deny others right to life and happiness based on what they think Santa wants for the world. The fact that you think that comparison is logical is laughable.

TenQ:
Escapism!
No one has seen them but we may need to look at effect of werewolves, unicorns and vampires. The lack of evidence of any evidence may indicate that there is nothing about them in the first place.

Unfortunately for the creator, creation itself is a major evidence EXCEPT we are willing to believe that the UNIVERSE created itself!

Why can you not believe the universe created itself when you obviously believe that the creator who supposedly created it was not created himself?
Why can't the same apply to all forms of life in this universe. Perhaps being is just the default. We are just expressions in the great void that is the nothingness that actually existed before we the expressions sprung forth.

I am not saying what I wrote just now is actually the fact. I am saying it is as plausible as any religious belief.

It's like Christian preachers are now trying to outdo themselves in who can say the most moronic thing and still keep there followers.

I am beginning to think there is a social experiment out there that is sponsored by pastors to test the percentage or tolerance of morons that makes up the current population of Christians. So they make these ridiculous assertions. This will probably make them know how much the can insult the intelligence of their followers so they can bilk them more in the name of tithes and offerings.

This is what Christianity has been reduced to. A feast of charlatans.

greendice:
E dey o

Story. Odeshi wey dey only work for local gun lol.

Viltron:
Before you conclude that he's using JuJu.

Firstly, we don't know what's inside the pot.

He's probably standing on something inside the pot so heat doesn't reach him.

Secondly, that's not boiling water in the pot.

It's just a cheap attempt at magic

Person wey get sense. 3 gbosa for you.
Even the smoke is used to deliberately hide the trick.

Hassanmaye:
Use your brain don't be an idiot how can a human being naturally withstand fire without juju, its just like people whom knife don't cut them

That is not withstanding fire or hot water. Before calling someone an idiot look at where his feet is. Does it look like it is touching the bottom of the cooking container? Africans sha. The smoke there is probably from the leaves burning underneath away from his feet and the smoke is being used to obscure the trick. That is why he is just standing in the middle.

Look at the nonsense they call magic

There is a reason why the guy is standing in the middle and we can't see his feet. He is not standing in any pot of boiling water. He is standing on something protective that keeps his feet from touching the container itself. I won't be surprised if it is one thick level of insulation.

Even the smoke is designed to hide the trick he is doing. Them no born am well make e use real pot and hot water with no trick.

Nonsense.

Lordedifice1:
How does Nigeria affect what I am saying
You the so called brainaic
Anyways I don't want to argue when I have evidence
So believe it or not

This guy sha. Which evidence do you have? Lol. Even Trump has a picture holding the rainbow LGBTQ flag. Dey there dey carry religion for head.

Lordedifice1:
I like Donald Trump more than this end time anti Christ president
America is a Christian country he cancelled gay marriage but the bastard brought back the nonsense

All this ignorant people. When did Trump cancel gay marriage. Even Israel has gay pride parades nationally every year. Be shouting about gay marriage from Nigeria while your country that doesn't have that can't feed its citizens.

GoodIsGod:
Long post
You wan kill ya self?

I only read the first sentence and busted into laughter.

You will kill ya self Wizkid.

Kid as wise as Solomon in his eyes but as stupid as his father in real life.

At least my father no get HBP and I no inherit am. I dey kamkpe. My papa train me go school. I get job. I even travel abroad and my papa dey alive to see my success.

Abeg where your own papa dey. Which skool e send you? No wonder you dey quick to call people father because your father na capital failure and a wretched man. And your own poverty don get belle with twins sotay you don quickly get HBP at your young age.

You will end up like your dad. Useless and worthless. Not respected by his family or even his children. You will die slowly and with regret and you will always remember this conversation.

Some people pass you for this life. I have told you already. You are beneath me. When you have stroke and they are carrying you up and down to cure you, you will remember that you met someone once you predicted how you will end in life.

GoodIsGod:
Lol

Now you are displaying generational insanity. You inherited it from your dad and about passing it on to your unfortunate kids.
Everyone you have engaged on this thread. It has been one insult or the other for their views.

I'm sorry for the animals that gave birth to you. They are so senseless if not they could have saved the world the trauma a cursed kid like you are giving them.


Weep on.

You mean the way High Blood Pressure almost killed your dad after he realized he was a failure and now you have inherited the congenital failure plaguing your family and have developed High Blood pressure too?
The weak mugu going about on Nairaland begging for medication. You go soon die like you papa

The useless man failed and still ended up giving birth to an animal like you. Chai. That man suffering pass this world. You have failed too already because it shows. No wonder you are a Christian that thinks he can wish away his inheritance of failure by going to church. LMAO. Better take knife and castrate yourself so you don't pass your failure to your children.

The mumu begging everyone for hypertension medicine. Your life don finish and na still on this matter you go waste throway. Instead of you to hang yourself you are mentioning my father who gave me things your own dead dad never gave you and you will never be able to give your children.

See the kind of sorry thing trying to engage me. The day you will be having stroke due to the HBP you will remember what I just told you. Lol. A pig in an abattoir better pass you. You no even get money to go better hospital with better consultants make them help your life na herbal local babalawo you fit afford. Roadkill.

GoodIsGod:
Kiddo don't start what you can't finish with me. I will drag you till you abandon your Monika or get both of us banned.

I am trying to avoid you as you started the insult in the first place. Fighting over issues is not my thing.

I have got more important things to attend to. Please don't mention me again Wizkid.

Thanks and goodnight

More idiotic boasting by an empty-headed nonentity. Lmao. Talking about getting banned like as if his life depends on Nairaland.

The guy who quoted me on this thread and started with insult and tried to make the disagreement about my family is claiming that I started insulting him first. Wonders shall never end. This one brain no dey function well again

GoodIsGod:
Can you see how stupid you sound again?
This is a faceless forum and you have concluded that you are better than me in all ramifications already .

Do you know me ?


Guy every Madman is the wisest man on earth in their own sights even when they walk naked.

Stay blessed and sorry for the name calling.

I will repeat again. I am better than you in all places that matter. You are one of the few people here I can say that about 100% because it shows in your manner of thinking and even your ability to lay down your arguments. I don't need to know anything else about you to understand your intellectual and social limitations based on how you write and construct arguments. Haphazard thoughtlessness and unparalleled foolishness is the mildest way to describe it.

All of your posts reeks of insular stupidity the likes of which I seldom engage with on Nairaland. So yeah. You are beneath me. The likes of you will always never measure up to the likes of me. Chew on that and let that be seared into your brain forever.

GoodIsGod:
E pain am e wan die o

The truth is that I am not actually proud of having to drag your dad. He has done nothing to me and insulting him, even though what I said is a true statement, doesn't add anything to the point I have been making on this thread. But when you behave like a dumb ungulate some of us have to correct you using the whip and the boot. The way beasts of burden are usually corrected.

I say this with all humility I can muster, I am better than you at everything that matters: intelligence, exposure, logic, life experiences etc. Trust me. And my mental fortitude supercedes yours by an order of magnitude. So you are in over your head here. If you want to have a civil conversation let me know. But if you want to continue trading insults with me I will make a show of you like I have done already. All bets are now off since you decided to make this about your family.

Choose your next words wisely.

GoodIsGod:
Stop calling everyone you come across online your papa names.
I learnt he bears those name; Idiot, Fool, Mad man, Stupid etc.

Not everyone reasons like an insane man. Keep the names to your family alone

Says the foolish son of a nonentity who will never ever be greater than his failure of a father.
Idiotic son of an idiot.
You think you know how to insult because I didn't reply your earlier reference to my father. Wait I dey cook food for your hungry papa. Let me help the fool that was unfortunate to birth a negative achievement like you. His life is tragic enough as it is.

Lol. Yeye Bello is looking for extra 35 billion he can withdraw and spend anyhow.
That guy should be flogged like the thief he is.

lesbiconverter:
you are still exhibiting your profound ignorance.
go back to sleep

The idiot has realized he has a madman for a mentor making him as easily mad as the man. Now he doesn't know what to say again. Clown with low intelligence.
Keep believing in fairy tales and urban legends like a kid. I bet you also believe in Willy willy, Lady Koi koi and that India used jazz to win 100-0 in football. Dunce. People like me will keep helping idiots like you navigate life with knowledge because left to idiots like you the world would have stagnated. Kiss my feet and thank me. Mugu

How are we sure this guy didn't arrange this just to deflect suspicion? I can easily imagine someone with beards like that ordering his bandito accomplices to capture his brother and rough him up a little bit to make the whole scheme look real.

lesbiconverter:
you are the proof of ignorance. The OP was writing from EXPERIENCE and yet you're still demanding. Clown!

You are even dumber than the OP. The same animal that has made many foolish claims on Nairaland like killing TB Joshua is the one you are looking up to. Senseless fool.

Most of you idiots will believe anything as long as it is in line with your beliefs because someone made a claim on a faceless forum. The day you start using your brain maybe you will be able to engage in a reasonable discussion with me.

StJohnofChrist:
You seem to be a free thinker. Think about this, say the ones who claim to have a firsthand account are lying about them reading and practicing that which is found therein. Why do you believe them then, since you can't tell if they are lying?...because it appeals to your defense. Then those who claim it made some mad or a second hand tale become fools and without proof or credibility.

No. I am not a freethinker. I just don't believe in the version of God most mainstream religions believe.
And if you have been paying attention to what I have been saying, you will realize that I have said that I have first hand account of this things. I used to have a roommate who was very into it. And not once did I notice something off about him to this day. And that is just one of my numerous experience with people interested in the occult. I won't even talk about my own foray into seeking enlightenment which made me realize occult is meaningless nonsense. So you will forgive me if I don't believe people who have been conditioned to demonize whatever they don't understand and make exaggerated claims about it.

These days with all the economic hardship in Nigeria we should be hearing about people running mad here and there because most of them are ready to read books like this to get advantages in life. That should tell you that it is all nothing but scaremongering.

miraclea:
I still wonder all the lies about this particular book It was 89 precisely when I bought this book read it over and over again practiced some things thein and because I don't like it dash it out to someone else it's not a Christian book It doesn't have anything related to God's words but doesn't make you mad either forget the fake news

Another firsthand account of someone who owns the book and isn't mad. Everyone claiming the book made someone mad do not have any firsthand account or even proof. Just exaggerated stories their moms told them and what their pastors said in Sunday school. So to lend credence to their assertions they begin to claim their father is the head of the Rosicrucian order or something like that. Sad clowns.

I like the fact that many people have asked for the book now and can read it themselves. Please after you read it come and tell us if you saw anything out of the ordinary. That way we can confirm if the foolish claims by Christians on this thread is for real.

Lightorder:
when I read your first sentence, I realized that I wasn’t the one you were replying. Be focused and coordinated. I am not good in English language but even a kindergarten student would understand what I wrote. I am done talking to you

Yeah. Go and share your fake story that you can't prove with those kindagarten kids who are usually your audience then. When you come to Nairaland you meet people with mettle far beyond the usual rabble that you hang around. Next time bring stories you can prove.
Anybody can claim anything. Even I can come and tell you my father is one thing in one order. It doesn't prove anything. What matters is what I can demonstrate and can be proved. You have shown you can do nothing but just make claims to authority. You have neither proof nor credibility. Sorry we just don't believe you.

noble2faith:
Alaye! Stop the ranting and do what he challenged you to do o jare!

You are as daft as he is. How do you know what I have done before and what I have not done. Empty boasts will help neither of you. Too many jokers will come on Nairaland and be acting as if they themselves have some special knowledge nobody else has. Stories. Bring proof and stop suggesting ridiculous stunts that you cannot verify. It should be simple na.

lesbiconverter:
This what lack of experience does to people. Just open their mouths waaaah..

So you have experience. Why don't you show us with proof? Lol. Too many clowns

Lightorder:
Oga be deceiving yourself. My dad was a top member of the grand order of the Rosicrucian amorc ( California chapter). He left the order and gave his life to Christ. They tried to bring him back to the fold but his stand with Christ was too strong. They ended up blaming my mum for introducing JESUS to him. The prominent family of the guy in question knew that it could only take once a master of an order like that to understand what hit their son. My dad approached him and he opened up to him alone. When you hear people make some comments on social platforms, it is not always jokes. This is my own father I am talking about and a family friend involved. The Books of Moses is just beginners stuff to where dad was . When he left the order, he destroyed so many books and the few philosophical ones he left, I wanted to read but he stopped me. In amorc , you must be a good reader to advance in the order . Feel for people like you in this realm who think it is just eat, work and sleep. You are guinea pigs for spiritual experiments without Christ. Arguing here in a fine English language doesn’t change anything sir

Like I said, ridiculous hearsay. Claiming your father found the Rosicrucian order or even Masonry changes nothing. The same way you have someone personal is how I have someone personal. Why should I abandon my own experience to believe yours because you came up with a beautiful story on Nairaland where anyone can claim anything just for likes. I can bet my ass that if we investigate you we will find ridiculous exaggerations in the story you told. Lol.

If you are so sure of you self give us the profile of your dad so we can trace his history to know and the person he healed so we confirm. It should not be that hard. Instead of all this long story about your dad being the head of one order. Failed attempt at appeal to authority. Even the fact that your father is now a Christian just like you make your story very suspect. We know christians especially pastors like to lie and exaggerate their escapades before they became converts just to make it seem like they were greater men then. Typical christian stories .

Stories and claims that people have made before. **Yawn**

Christianity is now a clown show