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 Christianity Etc › Re: Reflecting On Pastor Dare Adeboye's Death. What If It Was Daddy Freeze? by buragidi(op): 7:09pm On May 09, 2021 |
orisa37:I don't think anybody is even judging Adeboye or anyone for that matter here. Contemporary issues were only discussed. You can't compare Jesus's death at 33 with the current scenario. The death of Jesus Christ was foretold and he also spoke about it himself. Unfortunately, unlike Jesus who reiterated that following him would.bring persecution and trouble ( look at the way his disciples died. They died painfully, disgracefully and in abject poverty), todays pastors tell you that once you go to their churches death, poverty et al are faraway from your homes. When you now see children of men who propagate such beliefs dying, it calls for questioning. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Reflecting On Pastor Dare Adeboye's Death. What If It Was Daddy Freeze? by buragidi(op): 7:01pm On May 09, 2021 |
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| Christianity Etc › Re: Reflecting On Pastor Dare Adeboye's Death. What If It Was Daddy Freeze? by buragidi(op): 6:50pm On May 09, 2021 |
orisa37:Don't mind the dingbat. Pastor of God. A God that cannot save him from losing his son at old age? Religion is indeed the opium of the people. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Reflecting On Pastor Dare Adeboye's Death. What If It Was Daddy Freeze? by buragidi(op): 6:41pm On May 09, 2021 |
dikeigbo2:It is called the power of the pulpit. The church arrangement does not even permit to ask questions and provoke intellectual discourse. One man just stands in front of the pulpit and dish out what he thinks is right and people listen with rapt attention without the right to interrogate his speech. He does it over and over again and he masters the art. He knows that whatever he says cannot be questioned, at least, not on the spot. All he needs to do is to build followers and mix lies with truth and sell it to them. They listen to this over and over again, coupled with what their parents have taught them that men of God should not be questioned and they become brainwashed. When you listen to a lie over and over again, without being challenged, no matter how stupid it is, it begins to look like the truth. You are a total product of what you watch, read and hear. That is why the Bible says that "..and the word becomes flesh and dwelelleth among us". When you listen to lies over time, it becomes part of your flesh and dwell with you and yours. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Reflecting On Pastor Dare Adeboye's Death. What If It Was Daddy Freeze? by buragidi(op): 6:18pm On May 09, 2021 |
Hashabiah:Religion has always be part of humanity. However, at that time, it has not become an industry as we see today. As at then, the messages are not like we have today. As at then, pentecotalism is not as popular as we have today. Does that mean there was no corruption then? Of course it was, but not as high as it is today. Until recently, the messages of RCCG is more of holiness. In recent time, it is about money. Today, RCCG would tell you that if you don't pay your tithe, you are not going to heaven as against the position of the Bible. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Reflecting On Pastor Dare Adeboye's Death. What If It Was Daddy Freeze? by buragidi(op): 6:13pm On May 09, 2021 |
dikeigbo2:You are right. Religion makes people to suspend their brain. You would be surprised that professors in the church also beleived that outright lie. 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Reflecting On Pastor Dare Adeboye's Death. What If It Was Daddy Freeze? by buragidi(op): 6:07pm On May 09, 2021 |
Daveambition:Please communicate in English. I don't understand gibberish |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Reflecting On Pastor Dare Adeboye's Death. What If It Was Daddy Freeze? by buragidi(op): 6:05pm On May 09, 2021*. Modified: 6:21pm On May 09, 2021 |
Hashabiah:You only restated yourself, you have not scientifically disociate religion from corruption in Nigeria. Indeed, religion ( both Islam and christianity) play crucial role in the level of corruption in Nigeria. I have earlier given examplesto substantiate this. I expected you to break those links. As long as money is the epicentre of your churches' message and their leaders keep frolicking with politicians, while living in flamboyance, corruption will keep increasing. I 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Reflecting On Pastor Dare Adeboye's Death. What If It Was Daddy Freeze? by buragidi(op): 6:00pm On May 09, 2021 |
Daveambition:Na dem. If there is anyone who needs help, it is your likes who are derided of logic and critical thinking. 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Reflecting On Pastor Dare Adeboye's Death. What If It Was Daddy Freeze? by buragidi(op): 5:57pm On May 09, 2021 |
Thanks. Like I said. These curses dont work. Even the one placed by their GOs don't work. If they do, by now, there would be no boko haram or fulani herdsmen in Nigerian again. OkCornel: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Reflecting On Pastor Dare Adeboye's Death. What If It Was Daddy Freeze? by buragidi(op): 5:54pm On May 09, 2021 |
It is pointless engaging you. Daveambition: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Reflecting On Pastor Dare Adeboye's Death. What If It Was Daddy Freeze? by buragidi(op): 5:49pm On May 09, 2021 |
Hashabiah:You cannot divorce religion from the politics and problems of Nigeria. Today, hardly can anyone become a leader in Nigeria without religion endorsement. The vice president of Nigeria is a senior pastor in Nigeria. Oyedepo would always attack the government of the day when he supported the past administration. All our GOs are politically inclined . That is at the strategic level. At the base of the pyramid, the kind of messages our churches preach are problems on their own. These are messages that make people to beleive that success is a function of supernatural break through, instead of diligence and creativity. These are messages that make people to beleive they can see where they did not sow (they call it unmerited favour). The flamboyance and elegance of todays pastors do not help matters. Instead of developing the real sector, many Nigerian professionals would rather turn to pastors, lie to people in the name of prosperity messages and build an empire from the sweat of the poverty-stricken members, while promising them blessings and eternity. The above destroys creativity and build the culture of laxity in a population. 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Reflecting On Pastor Dare Adeboye's Death. What If It Was Daddy Freeze? by buragidi(op): 5:36pm On May 09, 2021 |
Daveambition:Nobody wished anybody death. I know it is a long post. Please go back and read. The write up never wished anyone dead. ...and I am not a blogger. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Reflecting On Pastor Dare Adeboye's Death. What If It Was Daddy Freeze? by buragidi(op): 5:35pm On May 09, 2021 |
Hashabiah:What has been disgruntled has told do with posting a reflection on an occurrence? And what is the big deal about being a pastor, especially in Africa, anyone who has the ability to lie and sell himself out as a powerful man can be a pastor in Africa. Have you wondered how backward Nigeria is despite producing pastors? 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Reflecting On Pastor Dare Adeboye's Death. What If It Was Daddy Freeze? by buragidi(op): 5:12pm On May 09, 2021 |
It is no longer a breaking news that the General overseer (GO) of the Redeemed Christian Church of God (RCCG) lost one of his sons, who is also a pastor during this week. Undoubtedly, this is is indeed a trying time for the revered pastor and the entire RCCG family. I have watched with keen interest how people concluded that it was the will of God for Dare to be called 'home' by God. I have also read the statement of the father that he could not blame or question God (of course nobody can). One thing about pastor Adeboye is that he has held himself out to the public as someone who is preferred by God to other people. In his ministrations, he has made people to beleive that he is always hearing from God in all circumstances. He has also told the stories of how God has used him to perform miracles that are beyond human comprehension. For example, pastor Adeboye has told the story of how he ran out of fuel and God asked him to urinate inside his fuel tank and God converted his urine to fuel and he was able to complete his journey. Although, nobody confirmed the veracity if this story, many 'beleivers take them hookline and sinker'. In another sermon, he has told his followers that he frank tea with God. This is not to mention a lot of stories where he reiterated how God used him to heal the sick and also resurrected the dead. This stories which are eloquently told in the context of the scripture makes many people to perceive pastor Adeboye as a supernatural man. Also, unlike some other pastors, eg Johnson Suleman, Biodun Fatoyinbo et al., Pastor Adeboye has stayed above scandal. This may be as a result of his age and his educational attainments. In all, Pastor Adeboye is not just a respected man of God, he also reputed as a man who hears directly from God. I have seen people rushing over themselves to sit on a chair he just left, believing they could receive solutions to their problems. Sometimes ago, I saw a video of a young boy who even said Angel confirmed to him that Adeboye is God in human form. The clown even advised other pastors to close down their churches and acknowledged Adeboye. Indeed, Adeboye has warned against the glorification of his name in the past, but his sermons always portray him as a man who is not ordinary. Looking at the above, it came as a surprise to many how a man with such an acclaimed supernatural power, the one who drinks tea with God and raise the dead, can just lose his son at the old age. Many critics have begun to ask if Adeboye is actually a supernatural being or he just held himself out, used evangelical marketing strategy to launch himself out and remain relevant. On the flip side, a man called Ifedayo Olarinde, popularly known as Daddy Freeze came out in the past few years to challenge most of the doctrines in churches, especially the pentecostal. The most popular of this is payment of tithes. Daddy freeze used biblical verses to establish that tithing is not just unchristian, it is an outright stealing from Church goers by their pastors. Many pastors and their followers started to raise curses on Daddy freeze. For example, Ayo Oritsajafor, in a program in RCCG holy ghost congress specifically said Daddy Freeze would soon die. Other pastor also said he would die before the end of that year. More recently, Pastor Ibiyeomie and Paul Enenche declared war against Daddy Freeze. Permit me to say that Dady Freeze himself is also a hustler (my view). For example, after forging an unholy alliance with Johnson Suleman, a man whobhas consistently been in the news for all manners of terrible things, Daddy Freeze would look away on Suleman scandals and quickly come to his defence at every slight opportunity. A case study of this is the recent scandal of Johnson Suleman man sleeping with the wife of one of his Pastor, Mike davids. Another is his defence of a story told by Suleman where a man who claimed to have no visa in Germany entered a Toilet in Germany and got teleported to Ireland. Notwithstanding the above, many pastors and their members beleive that Daddy Freeze is a problem of the church. When he was asked to pay N5 Million for committing adultery. Many commentators who are Christian reiterated how that is just the beginning of his calamity for insulting pastors and how it God dealing with him. Summing the above together, Pastor Dare Adeboye is dead and it is important to commiserate with with the Adeboyes on this irreparable loss. Many commentators today beleive it was God that called him home. The question remains that despite the supposed supernatural power of the Dad and his special relationship with God, how come he could neither prevent the death of his son or raise him (as he has always done for others). The likes of Johnson Suleiman, who has also claimed to have raise the dead in the past, how come they cannot demonstrate this power, when it is most needed? Does it still make sense to consider these individuals as special men as been paraded in view of the present situation. Also, assuming that Daddy Freeze is the departed, would people also concluded that it is just the will of God or many would rejoice that it was a payment for his sins? On a final analysis. No man is preferred by God above others. We are all equal before God. God does not speak through Adeboye, Oyedepo et al. to speak to you and they have no solution to your problem. They only held themselves out and used media to market themselves. You beleive in it and yiu got entangled for life. The interesting thing is that you would also indoctrinate your children and they continue to reference a man that is of equal value with them. Also, anybody can die at anytime. You don't have to commit sin before you die. People die as a result of so many things. Religious curses have no effect on anybody. If those curses work, by now, all boko haram members would have been long dead in Nigeria. I just feel like sharing my thoughts on this issue. 7 Likes 2 Shares |
| Crime › Re: Lecturer Jailed Over Romance Scam In Kwara State by buragidi(m): 8:34am On Mar 13, 2021 |
JaeYi:You don't gerrit. This has got nothing to do with Konji. This is simply a case of a man who impersonated a lady to scam the lady's lover. |
| Celebrities › Re: Abdulsalam Sanyaolu 'Charles Olumo' Celebrates His 97th Birthday (Photos, Video) by buragidi(m): 1:22pm On Feb 27, 2021 |
Lols..Nobody can Tamilaya. He, who tamilaya is takulaya. He who takulaya will die woorolly and jejentically. "E ee ti gba kamu, loote yi lesese wa gba kamu. O ya, fun won ni kamu ni kookan" This is of the greatest actors of our time. One of the one who laid foundation of nolkywood. In those days, agbako and his crew would move from cities to cities and villages to villages for stage play, especially during festive seasons. Happy birthday to a great icon. LL& P sir. Icyexpressions: 4 Likes |
| Celebrities › Re: Shina Peters Ordained Bishop At Cherubim And Seraphim Church (Pics, Video) by buragidi(m): 2:29pm On Feb 01, 2021 |
Thanks for this. SSP was born into K&S Church. There is none of his albums he doesn't use their hymns. Up till today he still plays good music. As far as I am concerned, afro-juju series is one of the best music ever produced in Nigeria. Up till tomorrow, anytime anywhere SSP music is played, people must dance. happney65: 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Daddy Freeze Schools Chris Oyakhilome On Criticizing Pastors (Video) by buragidi(m): 3:48pm On Jan 03, 2021 |
[quote author=aribisala0 post=97680521]Clearly a case of childhood Post Traumatic Stress Disorder Full of misdirected anger and hate[/quotest Misdirected anger to an inconsequential element with dual identity/ or he who jumps on a matter he has no knowledge of? Define yourself. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Daddy Freeze Schools Chris Oyakhilome On Criticizing Pastors (Video) by buragidi(m): 3:46pm On Jan 03, 2021 |
foreshore:No you talked about it because of yourself. In the first instance, nobody accused you of being uncomfortable before you started shouting I am comfortable up and down like a headless goat. That gave you out as a broke ass living a fake life on a faceless forum. Comfortable people don't shout I am comfortable up and down. We are saying you are deficiency in scriptural knowledge thereby positioning you as a prey for pastorpreneurs and you are shouting you are comfortable up and down. What should I expect from a man who equates the con men he called men if God to God. How lowly can one be? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Daddy Freeze Schools Chris Oyakhilome On Criticizing Pastors (Video) by buragidi(m): 3:39pm On Jan 03, 2021 |
aribisala0:Now I see you are confused. If you are not one and only with the moniker foreshore, then you have no business responding to my post in the first instance. Should you, common sense should teach to go back to history. But I won't blame you. Common sense is not common to common people |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Daddy Freeze Schools Chris Oyakhilome On Criticizing Pastors (Video) by buragidi(m): 3:30pm On Jan 03, 2021 |
aribisala0:By the way, are you a man with dual identity on Nairaland? My engagement is with a moniker foreshore, how that now became the headache of Aribisala0 is what I don't know. If you are one and the same let us know that you have been using dual identity. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Daddy Freeze Schools Chris Oyakhilome On Criticizing Pastors (Video) by buragidi(m): 3:17pm On Jan 03, 2021 |
aribisala0:You are just a clown trying effortlessly to justify rubbish. You are speaking on behalf of 90% of Nigerians. Who appointed you as their speaker?. You obviously have issues with paying 6k for train fro Lagos to Ibadan. It is a big deal to you. Intelligent people can read emotions behind written words. You expressed the view consistently to show how it is important to you. You now come to a faceless forum to claim you are comfortable when nobody accused of not being comfortable in the first instance. Coming out to start shouting you are comfortable up and down gave you out as a poor man who is struggling for acceptance. To show your buffonery, you even stupidly stated you have more than someone you have never met in your life. I pity your life. Who is competing with you? We are talking about how you lack scriptural understanding and how you are vulnerable to ignorance which is typified in your post and you are saying you are comfortable. Unfortunately your post suggests that you are in the business of humping from bus to bus from Lagos to Ibadan. Yet you kept shouting you are comfortable. Go and find something reasonable to do with your life. He who saw free money in his dream is advised to work hard for hunger knocks very hard. Poor man living fake life on faceless forum. I am comfortable ko, I am tablecof ni. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Daddy Freeze Schools Chris Oyakhilome On Criticizing Pastors (Video) by buragidi(m): 2:22pm On Jan 03, 2021 |
aribisala0:You are right. That is why you see Dangote shouting I am comfortable all over the Internet. You only know how much lagos to Ibadan Tfare cost because you are either a commercial driver plying the road or you or members of your circle ply the road regularly using buses. In any case, it exposes your wretchedness. You complain that 6k on train is much because you are broke. You cannot afford it. It further exposed your wretchedness. Every where in the world, train fair is more expensive than bus and you get to your destination earlier through train. I also realised that you have once also equate the con men you call men of God with God. How lowly can one get? You need redemption. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Daddy Freeze Schools Chris Oyakhilome On Criticizing Pastors (Video) by buragidi(m): 1:01pm On Jan 03, 2021 |
excel101:Says a minor who doesn't know his left from right � � |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Daddy Freeze Schools Chris Oyakhilome On Criticizing Pastors (Video) by buragidi(m): 12:57pm On Jan 03, 2021 |
[quote author=Lanre0 post=97675285]Including Oritsajafor that engaged in gun running business using his ill gotten private jet obtained from Jonathan. CAN of worms, ritualists, adulterers & corrupt individuals.[/quote You see, christianity in Africa as practised today is scam. All your pastors with no exception are con men. More than anything, religion has caused many harms to Africa than anything. Unfortunately though, we are are simply religious and not spiritual. We have more churches than factories, yet we wanna make progress. No way. Our medical doctors (eg Paul Enenche), professors/researchers (eg Adeboye and Kumuyi) architects ( eg Oyedepo) and many other professionals abandon their skills that can transform nations and continue to build fortune on church business from money collected from gullible followers who themselves romance poverty, yet you want Africa to succeed. Here in Europe, like America, nobody has time for the rubbish we do in Africa. Today is Sunday, I am in the office as I type. They do not spend their live in church, dash out their money to some pastors in the name of offering, tithe and seed and they live a fulfilled life. They are not cursed. Infact, they do not just criticise pastors, they treat thei 4cup when they misbehave. For example, the same Oyakhilome was sanctioned by the UK government when he launched his idiotic 5G conspiracy theory. More recently, the UK government removed and took over the management board of mountains of fire board, yet heaven did not fall. The earlier Africa realises that religion is a scam, the faster it regains its path to success. However, how could that be when we have ignorant, despotic, brainless and gullible population who still believe that their pastors have God's mumu button. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Daddy Freeze Schools Chris Oyakhilome On Criticizing Pastors (Video) by buragidi(m): 12:19pm On Jan 03, 2021 |
excel101:Omo mamma agba, keep fooling yourself around little boy. When you attain the age of an adult and you are ready to learn. Then come to my mention. A wise man said "It takes wisdom to understand wisdom. The music is nothing when the audience is deaf" You are obviously a deaf listener. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Daddy Freeze Schools Chris Oyakhilome On Criticizing Pastors (Video) by buragidi(m): 12:03pm On Jan 03, 2021 |
excel101:You see it is pointless engaging with a little boy who is obviously being fed by his parents like you. You have no idea what life is all about. Decisions are still being made for you. Unfortunately, you are unwilling to learn and grow. No wonder all your post oozes Ignorance. How do I even engage with a boy who calls himself a Christian and does not know there is a difference between the regime of law and regime of grace. How do you teach a boy with this kind of mentality that no pastor has authority over his life. How do you unlearn the mind of a boy who beleives that God is the houseboy of his pastor and what his pastor says, God must carry out. Indeed, the educability of a child depends on his readiness to learn. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Daddy Freeze Schools Chris Oyakhilome On Criticizing Pastors (Video) by buragidi(m): 11:42am On Jan 03, 2021 |
excel101:Now. You just confirmed your buffonery and lack of common sense. It is better to keep silent and be assumed as a foool than to speak and allow same to be confirmed. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Daddy Freeze Schools Chris Oyakhilome On Criticizing Pastors (Video) by buragidi(m): 11:29am On Jan 03, 2021 |
excel101:I am sure the con man Oyakhilome, your lord and personal saviour, that you defend with your entire being and shameful life is either your dad or yourself. If I have a client ( a business partner) who is a multimillionaire in pounds. What does that tell you? It just a question of common sense. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Daddy Freeze Schools Chris Oyakhilome On Criticizing Pastors (Video) by buragidi(m): 11:11am On Jan 03, 2021 |
foreshore:Audio comfort. They are always comfortable on faceless Nairaland until they are unveiled where they are using style to beg for alms on the street. A successful and comfortable person who is complaining of N6k train fee from Lagos to Ibadan. What is N6k, this is not up to £12. He was even comparing with bus charges. Very current. Comfortable people don't even know how much bus charges. Sheepie. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Daddy Freeze Schools Chris Oyakhilome On Criticizing Pastors (Video) by buragidi(m): 10:59am On Jan 03, 2021 |
excel101:The same mentality. Where do u get this rubbish from? Who did this to you? Ate you aware that there are people who condemn Jesus Christ on daily basis and live happily and experience long life. I have got a client here. He is in his 90s and bouncing. He is strikingly rich. I am talking of a multimillionaire in pounds. At age 90 plus no terminal disease. He plays table tennis. He plays gulf. Anytime you talk about Christ, the way he will criticise and condemn him, you will be amazed. He will tell you he never exist that it is one of the greatest deceit of the world. Yet, he is not dying of any terminal disease. He can buy you and your entire family. At over 90s, he is still enjoying life. He did not abuse pastors, he abuses Jesus. If abusing Jesus did not bring terminal disease to him, how do you now think calling a man, a con-man, who brainwashed you a criminal, which is what he is is what will now lead to terminal disease,? Albeit, we have heard cases of church members being raped inside church by criminals. How come God did not strike them dead or visit them with terminal disease? Indeed, more ignorant Christians die of poverty and terminal disease than those who condemn fake pastors like Oyakhilome. You are still practicing Judaism that is based on fear factor, therefore you are not qualified to be called a Christian. |
