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Health / Re: Six Nigerian Nurses Arrive At UK Hospital (Picture) by buragidi(m): 8:40am On Sep 28, 2021
You are highly informed. My grandmother for you.
KosiGee:



If you earn about £25k/year, you should be a newbie band 5 who just graduated from Uni or someone who has been a nurse/radiographer etc employed from maybe a commonwealth country like nigeria.

I will assume you are single as a newly qualified. Now why would you get an accommodation where you’d pay £800!!!. There are ways to cut cost. Except you are living in London or maybe Cambridge and working at say Kings college hospital or Addenbrookes…London btw will pay you more…
You can get a decent rent inclusive accommodation for £400-£450 or even less depending on location…if you live further north, the rent is cheaper and that includes your heating, electricity and water.
Clothes, most times you are given up to 4-5 uniforms free….except you are a doctor. They don’t wear uniform. Why and how would clothes cost that much?? A trip to TK MAXX, Next, marks and Spencer or even Sainsbury’s (TU clothing) will get you nice and quality wears and they are not very expensive. A good quality trousers at £10-20. Shoes at Clark’s at £40-70 depending on what you want. You don’t buy these every month.

You should be talking about food and transport. They don’t cost much if you buy, stock your fridge and freezer and cook for yourself and that includes making and packing your lunch to work.
In an all inclusive rent of that £400, you don’t pay council tax as your landlord sorts that.
If a salary of £1600 is tight, you have the opportunity of doing NHSP or working overtime, your overtime pay will take care of a lot of your extra bills….Except you also support some people back home in Nigeria.

If you are living in an accommodation that pays £800, I’ll assume that you are married and earning a bit more or a band 6 and above, let’s assume that you are not, your analysis is still not very true as your wife will most likely be working and earning.
You can save one persons salary and pay your bills with the other.

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Health / Re: Six Nigerian Nurses Arrive At UK Hospital (Picture) by buragidi(m): 8:35am On Sep 28, 2021
No be the same UK when we dey here so? Beos calm down. It is not that bad. You see if you work in the UK and work hard, you will make reasonable income. It takes sacrifice ans dedication, but you will be fine.

The first thing is that you should try to stay in marriage with an understanding spouse. If your wife works hard, she can bring in £1500 after tax. Sometimes£1800, if she works overtime. Dependin on what you do, you could bring in £3k, plus if you are a top professional.

If you don't stay inside London, you can pay £800 /or a tastefully furnished three bedroom house. Plus council tax everything, gas, electricity, water etc. Your monthly bill can zero down to £1,500. Food is very cheap in UK. Just do bulk shopping. I run a family of 4. With t£400 foodstuff, we will feed very well for more than three months. We have got two deep freezer ans the freezer is always fully stocked.

Monthly car insurance for the two cars is just £60. Children attend good schools here at no cost. If you visit my son's school you would think you are in a world class University. If I should send my children to such schools in Nigeria, I don't think I will pay anything less than 2million per tierm.

At the end of the day, the total expenses including tax, feeding, accommodation, insurance etc is not even up to 2k. If you compare this with the total income of the couples, yiu will realise you can still make some good savings.

Many people working legitimately in UK are building houses and developing properties in Nigeria. If itbis that bad, they wouldn't be able to do this. Good thing is they don't pay hospital bills. Health service is free in the UK. After becoming citizen, the children attend the best of the University in the world at little or no tuition, with students loan provided by the government.

When they retire, they can come to Nigeria, collect their pension in pounds and convert to Naira to spend. I know a man in Akure who retired here in UK. With the drowning value of naira, each time he receives his pension (which never fails unlike Nigeria where one Maina will embezzle peoples pension), he always smiling, blessing the day he decided to move to UK to work.

You see, the picture is bigger than what you are seeing.

well so
adonainana:


You talk some truth about salary band but not the truth about how the U.K. works

No matter what salary you are in the UK, it takes extraordinary grace to avoid living from paycheck to paycheck

Even if you are on £100,000 which central London and business directors are on

After tax £100,000 per year is just £5,000 a month

It takes years for anyone in the medical field to start with to get to this stage

The point he was making was it isn’t that green on the other end

Only those who have lived and worked in the Uk for many years can understand

You can get trapped in a very very expensive system with the £1500 the nurses will start earning per month. After tax rent and all you could be left with little as £200 a month

And they no born you well get a side hustle as a nurse in the Uk. And changing careers would be too difficult

Meanwhile people that saw you leave Nigeria 10 years ago think you are balling and you are making big money

And the financial stage you are at before you give birth in the Uk is more or less the same financial stage you will be by the time your U.K. kids grow to 18

Come to London and see poverty within Nigeria households

People that left Nigeria as professionals 30 or 40 years ago, only mortgage they have because of the reasons above.

The Uk is an extremely expensive country that can trap you and give you a pseudo success story where you actually think you are making or have made it

I think this is the point the guy you replied to was making

Honestly come and see some people
In the Uk who left Nigeria in the same happy state 30 years after

I was even shocked some can’t afford flight tickets back home

Even some don’t have time from work back home cos all jobs in the Uk give you a 28 days holiday in one year

So you have to use the 28 days carefully

And the longer they stay in the Uk the worse it becomes and the more the years roll back and this is why you now have some British Nigerians who really want to come back to nigeria that most haven’t been too because of their parents always see it as a different country

I hope you get my points sha , but congrats to anyone leaving . Life is full of chances

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Health / Re: Six Nigerian Nurses Arrive At UK Hospital (Picture) by buragidi(m): 7:39am On Sep 28, 2021
God bless you. You know what you are saying. Not like our friend who has lived in all countriesintheworld, yet has poor knowledgeof how the system works.

KosiGee:


Actually, the salary starts at just under £25k per annum for a band 5 nurse or any other band 5 Nhs staff, it’ll be a bit more if you’ve progressed through the band. London hospitals pay more.

Uk is a nice place and a really nice place to work as a medical staff. There is heavy investment on medical care. Lots of experienced professionals to learn from, medical equipment is top of the range and funding isn’t a constraint. You are encouraged to work hard and be the best you can.

Uk is GOLD. That Martyn of a guy who claim to have worked in the US, UK, UAE and SA is highly confused.
Of course, you’ll pay NI, tax and pension but if you work hard as you do in Nigeria, you’ll not regret it.

If you get sick, your Gp is there for you. In emergency, the wait can be terrible but you get seen by the best medical team. You’d be surprised that the A/E doctor is someone who graduated from University of Ibadan, Ilorin, Awka or UNN. The radiographer might be a graduate of UNEC.

Think first of the trainings, the opportunities, the equipment at your disposal, the experts to guide and support your growth. You’ll earn the money but be prepared to work hard.

Nhs is the best. I wish those guys the best and I hope they settle in well enough.

Btw, it’s like this in lots of Nhs hospitals. They recruit lots of Nigerian healthcare workers.

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Health / Re: Six Nigerian Nurses Arrive At UK Hospital (Picture) by buragidi(m): 7:23am On Sep 28, 2021
You actually don't know what you are talking about. Have you ever visited airportin your life, talk less of crossing the border? Which medical services is expensive?,Are you aware that UK runs free medical services for all legal residents. Are you aware that when you clock 40 in the UK, the government will run after you to go through a free complete diagnosis of all your organs at no cost?

You are talking of tax. I laugh at your Ignorance.
Do you even know the way the UK tax works? Do you know that when staying in UK, you reap loads of benefits that are incomparable with the tax you paid? You need to do a proper research before commenting on issues you have little or no knowledge about.
martyns303:
Let them go…. They will soon find out it’s not all roses �. Not even America or Canada but UK! UK that will tax everything back, they will earn the money, and spend it all on tax, accommodation, transportation, electricity, heating and many many expenses and at the end of the month, they will be left with nothing.

Nigeria is not a rich country when compared to the west, in Nigeria how many people actually take their health seriously and go to the hospital or willing to pay good money for medical services. Medical services are ridiculously high in the west, that’s how they are able to generate revenue to be able to pay better. As a country, yes there’s corruption, but we are making do with the best we have.

And before anybody comes for me, I am also a professional, I have lived in the UK, SA, UAE and recently US. I still will rather work in Nigeria.

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Religion / Re: Miracle Money: How Apostle Suleman Harrased Angel Gabriel. by buragidi(m): 8:03am On Sep 02, 2021
Kobojunkie:
Person wey write up this stuff no get job at all. grin

Lols
Religion / Miracle Money: How Apostle Suleman Harrased Angel Gabriel. by buragidi(m): 9:17am On Aug 17, 2021
MIRACLE MONEY ALERT: An Imaginary Conversation between Apostle Johnson Suleman & Angel Gabriel
BY DEVE FASSAM ON 16/08/2021 •

Here is the text of the conversation between Apostle Johnson Suleman and Angel Gabriel.

Angel Gabriel: Hello Suleman, you called for this urgent meeting.

Apostle Suleman: Yes, Angel Gabriel.

Angel Gabriel: What happened? Is everything all right?

Apostle Suleman: I’m fine. It is just that… ehm…ehm…ehm

Angel Gabriel: Are you entangled in another Stephanie Otobo kind of mess?

Apostle Suleman: No, Angel Gabriel. Haba, I have learned my lessons. When it comes to that, be inconspicuous. Be discreet. It does the utmost magic.

Angel Gabriel: So what is it this time? I’m assuming that you have settled the issue of Pastor Davids’ wife. The one that…

Apostle Suleman: (interrupts)Don’t remind me, Angel Gabriel. I know the one you are talking about.

Angel Gabriel: Have you pacified him?

Apostle Suleman: Oh, yes. I did. You won’t hear pim from him anymore. Pastor Faith Edeko is happy, her husband, Davids is happy, and I am happy. Three of us are happy together in a kind of holy trinity-like matrimony. Like I told you the last time we spoke, it would only take some money to fix things. Money never fails me. And when I suspect it would not be enough, I send in my boys within the police to take care of the matter.

Angel Gabriel: So why the urgent meeting this time? I have so much to do.

Apostle Suleman: Well, I have this situation with some bloggers and YouTubers.

Angel Gabriel: Ok, what did they do?

Apostle Suleman: They insulted Jesus by questioning the miracle money alert that I performed in Atlanta and other places.

Angel Gabriel: Well, if that is the problem, you don’t have to worry. Jesus did not notice that someone was insulting him.

Apostle Suleman: No, Angel. I won’t let it go.

Angel Gabriel: But Jesus doesn’t care.

Apostle Suleman: But I care.

Angel Gabriel: Is there something that you are not telling me?

Apostle Suleman: In any case, they were insulting me, too.

Angel Gabriel: Is it the way Jesus was insulted?

Apostle Suleman: Much more vicious. In fact, I have started fighting them wherever in the world they are.

Angel Gabriel: Ok. By fight, I take it that you mean praying for them to change their ways.

Apostle Suleman: Oh, no. I am fighting them with lawyers and the Nigerian police. I am locking them up in prison and paying the police to throw away the keys.

Angel Gabriel: And you think that is what Jesus would have done in that situation?

Apostle Suleman: Jesus may be meek and gentle, but I am not. I am stubborn and rough. When it comes to defending my Father’s name, I stop at nothing.

Angel Gabriel: I see. Even when your father says you should not worry?

Apostle Suleman: Well, fathers sometimes don’t get it. They don’t understand the things of the world.

Angel Gabriel: Excuse me!

Apostle Suleman: Anyway, forget that. Just back me up.

Angel Gabriel: Please remind me again, what did you say they did for which you need back up?

Apostle Suleman: My friend, you need to pay attention. This is a serious matter. They were insulting Jesus by questioning the miracle money alert that I performed in Atlanta and other places.


Angel Gabriel: That sounds to me like they were trying to hold you accountable for your actions.

Apostle Suleman: What kind of angel are you, sef?

Angel Gabriel: Anyway, what miracle money alert are you talking about?

Apostle Suleman: Haba! The one that you put money into the bank accounts of my worshippers, sorry, I mean, followers.

Angel Gabriel: I did?

Apostle Suleman: Yes.

Angel Gabriel: I don’t remember doing so.

Apostle Suleman: Abeg, say that you do.

Angel Gabriel: Are you asking me to lie?

Apostle Suleman: No. I am just saying…

Angel Gabriel: What money did I put into those bank accounts? Shillings or Yen? And where did I get the money?

Apostle Suleman: Angel Gabriel, abeg, don’t expose my behind, you hear? We don’t have the time to go into all that now. I promise to make it up to you.

Angel Gabriel: Ok.

Apostle Suleman: Just say that you did.

Angel Gabriel: Say to whom?

Apostle Suleman: Say to anyone who asks you.

Angel Gabriel: Is anyone going to ask me?

Apostle Suleman: My friend, don’t act as if you don’t know what is happening?

Angel Gabriel: I really don’t know. You think I wake up every day thinking about covering up the mess that you will get into each day?

Apostle Suleman: Yes. No.

Angel Gabriel: Who will ask me about your miracle money alert?

Apostle Suleman: Some lawyers. Or some Judges.

Angel Gabriel: Where?

Apostle Suleman: Here on earth.

Angel Gabriel: How will they reach me?

Apostle Suleman: They plan to summon you to court to answer questions?

Angel Gabriel: Questions about what?

Apostle Suleman: My friend, what is wrong with you? What have we been talking about? How many times do I have to say it? Hear it now. They are asking questions about my miracle money alert. Also, they are using my name to make money without my permission.

Angel Gabriel: Really? How much are they making?

Apostle Suleman: I don’t care how much they make. Even if they make pennies, I want my own share of it.

Angel Gabriel: I see. The same way you got permission from Jesus to you his name to make money, abi? And the same way you send Jesus His share from the money you make using his meme, abi?

Apostle Suleman: Why am I even wasting my time talking to you? I want to speak with your supervisor.

Angel Gabriel: You know what? That’s it. I think I have had it with you.

Apostle Suleman: What do you mean, Angel?

Angel Gabriel: We are done with you.

Apostle Suleman: Who are the “we”?

Angel Gabriel: Everyone here in heaven, the Cherubim and Seraphim.

Apostle Suleman: No, you cannot leave me now.

Angel Gabriel: It is time we tell you the truth.

Apostle Suleman: Please don’t. I am allergic to the truth.

Angel Gabriel: Listen, Mr. Johnson Suleman, you are an embarrassment to the church of God.

Apostle Suleman: Please stop. I am not listening. (Sticks fingers into his ears)

Angel Gabriel: Mr. Johnson Suleman, take your dirty fingers off your ears. You have made a good living ridiculing the name of Jesus Christ.

Apostle Suleman: Me? Do you know whom you are talking to?

Angel Gabriel: Oh, yes. Thank God, it is all coming to an end today.

Apostle Suleman: And how are you going to make it come to an end?

Angel Gabriel: The skeletons in your closet are all crashing out. And this time, all your efforts at damage control are going to be too little and too late.

Apostle Suleman: You don’t know me, be that. Who born you? I can make you disappear.

Angel Gabriel: It is over.

Apostle Suleman: If you don’t take back what you just said, I will curse you.

Angel Gabriel: You will do what?

Apostle Suleman: Curse you.

Angel Gabriel: Try it, if you can.

Apostle Suleman: I say, take back what you said now, or you will die.

Angel Gabriel: Ok. On whose power do you stand?

Apostle Suleman: What?

Angel Gabriel: On whose power do you stand to pronounce that curse?

Apostle Suleman: For your information, I have 50 churches all over the world. If anything happens to me because of this your stupid attitude, the damage I will do to heaven will take ten years to be repaired.

Angel Gabriel: O’ yeah!

Apostle Suleman: I have alerted my members. Already, they are beginning to react.

Angel Gabriel: I see. Mr. Johnson Suleman, have a nice day.

Apostle Suleman: Don’t call my name again.

Angel Gabriel: What?

Apostle Suleman: I say, don’t call my name again unless I give you permission to do so.

Angel Gabriel: Otherwise…

Apostle Suleman: Otherwise, I will sue you. I have the right to my name, my image, and my videos. It is called image right. Just mention my name again and see if I won’t sue you. I have lawyers lined up from here to Mars.

Angel Gabriel: Are you done?

Apostle Suleman: And another thing, do not think I do not have options.

Angel Gabriel: You do?

Apostle Suleman: Oh, yes. Just in case you have forgotten, before I started following this your Jesus, I was a faithful follower of Allah and Prophet Mohammed.

Angel Gabriel: And so what, Alhaji Suleman?

Apostle Suleman: So, I can dump you and your Jesus and return to Allah and Prophet Mohammed.

Angel Gabriel: Suit yourself.

Apostle Suleman: I will surely do.

Angel Gabriel: Like I told you the last time, remember Pastor Jim Bakker and Pastor Ted Haggard.

Apostle Suleman: What about them?

Angel Gabriel: Their fame got into their small heads, and they thought they were invincible until it all collapsed on their knuckleheads.

Apostle Suleman: Are you calling me a knucklehead?

Angel Gabriel: No, I did not.

Apostle Suleman: You are a useless one-cell amoeba.

Angel Gabriel: Have a nice day, Alhaji Suleman.

Apostle Suleman: I’m warning you for the last time, don’t call my name again without my permission.

Angel Gabriel: Otherwise…

Apostle Suleman: Otherwise, I will do here what I did in Auchi some 30 years ago when an annoying fellow like you called my name without my permission.

Angel Gabriel: Do you want me to ask you what you did?

Apostle Suleman: Yes.

Angel Gabriel: I don’t care.

Apostle Suleman: I hate you.

Angel Gabriel: Anything else?

Apostle Suleman: I hate you. I hate you. I hate you.

Angel Gabriel: You can go now, Alhaji Suleman.

Apostle Suleman: I can see that you have Barack Obama kind of ears, but you do not hear. How many times will I tell you not to call my name without my permission?

Angel Gabriel: Maybe I should say it in the language you will understand.

Apostle Suleman: Say it, if you have the balls?

Angel Gabriel: You are fired, Mr. Suleman.

Apostle Suleman: You cannot fire me. I’m anointed. I make the blind to see. I make the deaf to hear. I make the cripple to walk. When I speak, the world shakes.

Angel Gabriel: Yada yada yada. Mr. Suleman, go tell that to your friends in Nollywood. Tell that to those ladies your mere presence shakes their wombs.

Apostle Suleman: Curse you, Angel Gabriel.

Angel Gabriel: Thank you, Mr. Suleman.

Apostle Suleman: Yeah, curse you, too.

Angel Gabriel: Bye, Felicia.

Rudolf Ogoo Okonkwo teaches Contemporary Afrodiasporic Literature at the School of Visual Arts in New York. He is also the host of Dr. Damages Show. His latest book is “The Secret Letters of President Donald J. Trump, aged 73.”

Curled from People’s Gazette
Religion / Miracle Money: Apostle Johnson Suleman Lacks Character, Cannot Sue For Defamati by buragidi(m): 9:55am On Aug 15, 2021
MIRACLE MONEY: A PERSON WITHOUT CHARACTER CANNOT BE DEFAMED: A REPLY TO APOSTLE SULEMAN

Our attention has been drawn to a misleading and provocative press statement issued by Samuel Amune, Esq., one of the counsel to Apostle Johnson Suleman, which has been circulated online and also published on all social media accounts of his client (Apostle Suleman) in response to the widely condemned arrest and detention of my client, Israel Goodnews Balogun.

We would have simply ignored the said statement while still waiting for Apostle Suleman and his miracle money angels to testify in a court of law to validate the very ludicrous and mendacious claims that angels deposited money into the bank accounts of worshippers at Omega Fire Ministries programmes in Auchi, Edo State and Atlanta, Georgia, USA.

But we are impelled to respond for the sake of innocent members of the public who may be misled by it.

In their desperate attempt to justify the oppressive, illegal and arbitrary arrest and detention of my client by the Special Enquiry Bureau of the Force Criminal Investigation and Intelligence Department (FCIID), Abuja, the counsel to Suleman claimed that his client instigated the police against my client because my client "went beyond the ambit of the law in ventilating his views."

In the said statement, my client was accused of calling Apostle Suleman "unprintable names"; certain words and expressions described by the counsel to Apostle Suleman as defamatory were attributed to my client. The said statement is in pari materia with the petition filed with the police.

My client in his written statement to the police at FCIID had refuted and discountenanced most of the claims and allegations in the petition which have been repeated in the statement now in circulation. For the avoidance of doubt, majority of the said words and expressions were not used by my client.

However, my client unapologetically stands by each and every word and expression used by him in his video. The police admitted that most of the words that the Apostle attributed to my client in his petition were used by another person, who like my client, also spoke out against the so-called angelic miracle alerts and miracle money.

We view the press statement as an attempt to divert public attention from the substance of the matter: which is whether the Apostle acted truthfully or deceitfully, fraudulently or honestly by claiming to command angels to deposit miracle alerts and miracle money in the accounts of worshippers? The answer to this simple question will determine the merit of this case.

Given that Apostle Suleman is not a lawyer, I urge my learned colleagues who are representing him in this matter to kindly advise their client on the legal implications of initiating an action founded on alleged defamation in a court of law.

The Apostle deserves to know that in the law of defamation, it is trite that a person without character cannot be defamed. A person who claims that his character has been defamed is basically putting his character on trial.

If the Apostle is convinced that he has character, and that his character has been defamed by my client, in the light of his miracle money claims and his other documented, ludicrous and discredited false claims (like his claim that his "spiritual son" entered a toilet in the airport in Germany and supernaturally appeared in an airport toilet in France), he should proceed to court and not dissipate further energy on press statements.

It is an age-long aphorism that those who live in glass houses should not throw stones.

In the statement, it is also claimed rather unfortunately, that my client was going to retract his statements against the false claims of angelic miracle alerts and money before he was dissuaded from doing so and "told to go ahead and fight" by "legal clout chasers who are looking for opportunity for relevance."

I urge my learned friend to focus on the substance of this case and not indulge in diversionary arguments.

For the records, it is actually Apostle Suleman who has been seeking for ways to have a soft landing in this matter by pleading for underserved apology from my client.

Nigerians should ask the Apostle why one of his lawyers in Abuja went to the police cell where my client was detained in the dead of the night and in my absence on Wednesday, 11th August, 2021 after efforts to negotiate with me had failed?

Why did the lawyer to Suleman attempt to discuss with my client in that ungodly hour of the day without my knowledge? Upon calling and beckoning on my client to come out, my client shouted at the said lawyer to leave.

Since Apostle Johnson Suleman has the unparalleled grace and power of commanding angels to transfer miracle money from the Central Bank of Heaven to the accounts of human beings in commercial banks, I hereby restate my call for him help Nigeria out of her financial woes by commanding his cash dispensing angels to credit the Federation Account.

Suleman may have succeeded in the past in intimidating, seducing and cajoling other persons he used the police to harass into apologizing to him. Sadly for him this time, he is dealing with people who know their rights and are determined to enforce them no matter whose ox is gored

In my professional life as a lawyer, I have never fought oppression and oppressors on my knees. Apostle Suleman will not be an exception. My client has made his position known and we have no reason to retreat or surrender.

Inibehe Effiong
Counsel to Israel Balogun
14/8/2021.
Business / Re: GT Bank Appoints Miriam Olusanya As First Female Managing Director by buragidi(m): 9:53pm On Jul 14, 2021
No chartered status? Too bad.

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Politics / Re: Help! SWAT Arrested My Uncle On Sunday by buragidi(m): 8:57pm On May 18, 2021
You are derided of sense.
helinues:


Bro , I am not saying you are joking but let's face reality.. Are they the only one who had meeting in the whole Abuja this weekend?

Why didn't police arrest others and tagged them Igbos

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Religion / Re: Reflecting On Pastor Dare Adeboye's Death. What If It Was Daddy Freeze? by buragidi(m): 7:09pm On May 09, 2021
orisa37:
SHARE THE POST MORTEM BY A SPECIALIST AND NOT A MUMU DOCTOR. LET US STOP JUDGING ADEBOYE. JESUS DIED AT 33. ADEBOYE NEVER VALLS HIMSELF GOD. I JUST KNOW THAT HE IS AN APOSTLE OF CHRIST. ONLY DECIDES THE TIMING OF EVERY PROPHET AND APOSTLE.

I don't think anybody is even judging Adeboye or anyone for that matter here. Contemporary issues were only discussed.

You can't compare Jesus's death at 33 with the current scenario. The death of Jesus Christ was foretold and he also spoke about it himself.

Unfortunately, unlike Jesus who reiterated that following him would.bring persecution and trouble ( look at the way his disciples died. They died painfully, disgracefully and in abject poverty), todays pastors tell you that once you go to their churches death, poverty et al are faraway from your homes.

When you now see children of men who propagate such beliefs dying, it calls for questioning.
Religion / Re: Reflecting On Pastor Dare Adeboye's Death. What If It Was Daddy Freeze? by buragidi(m): 7:01pm On May 09, 2021
dikeigbo2:


Honestly, the ridiculous things you hear in churches today makes makes you wonder if people still have brains.




you just said it......and asking questions singles you out as a worldly man or the devil challenging the man of God.....drinking tea with God hahahaha......
Religion / Re: Reflecting On Pastor Dare Adeboye's Death. What If It Was Daddy Freeze? by buragidi(m): 6:50pm On May 09, 2021
orisa37:



Not true. "I just feel like sharing my opinion", he says.

Don't mind the dingbat. Pastor of God. A God that cannot save him from losing his son at old age?

Religion is indeed the opium of the people.
Religion / Re: Reflecting On Pastor Dare Adeboye's Death. What If It Was Daddy Freeze? by buragidi(m): 6:41pm On May 09, 2021
dikeigbo2:



exactly without asking questions

It is called the power of the pulpit. The church arrangement does not even permit to ask questions and provoke intellectual discourse. One man just stands in front of the pulpit and dish out what he thinks is right and people listen with rapt attention without the right to interrogate his speech. He does it over and over again and he masters the art.

He knows that whatever he says cannot be questioned, at least, not on the spot. All he needs to do is to build followers and mix lies with truth and sell it to them. They listen to this over and over again, coupled with what their parents have taught them that men of God should not be questioned and they become brainwashed.

When you listen to a lie over and over again, without being challenged, no matter how stupid it is, it begins to look like the truth. You are a total product of what you watch, read and hear. That is why the Bible says that "..and the word becomes flesh and dwelelleth among us".

When you listen to lies over time, it becomes part of your flesh and dwell with you and yours.
Religion / Re: Reflecting On Pastor Dare Adeboye's Death. What If It Was Daddy Freeze? by buragidi(m): 6:18pm On May 09, 2021
Hashabiah:
I did that in my last post by citing how the Nigeria economy was doing (when $1 =N1). At that time there was still religion. And if you had taken the time to research, you would have seen that men of God like Adeboye and Oyedepo were already ministers in their respective churches. And they were not even influencing anything

Religion has always be part of humanity. However, at that time, it has not become an industry as we see today.

As at then, the messages are not like we have today.

As at then, pentecotalism is not as popular as we have today.

Does that mean there was no corruption then? Of course it was, but not as high as it is today.

Until recently, the messages of RCCG is more of holiness. In recent time, it is about money.

Today, RCCG would tell you that if you don't pay your tithe, you are not going to heaven as against the position of the Bible.
Religion / Re: Reflecting On Pastor Dare Adeboye's Death. What If It Was Daddy Freeze? by buragidi(m): 6:13pm On May 09, 2021
dikeigbo2:
above all ....this fuel part just caught my attention.......believe it and get your head and brain examined. as many times as possible......No matter your status with with God ....you will surely die One day and that is your rapture

You are right. Religion makes people to suspend their brain. You would be surprised that professors in the church also beleived that outright lie.

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Religion / Re: Reflecting On Pastor Dare Adeboye's Death. What If It Was Daddy Freeze? by buragidi(m): 6:07pm On May 09, 2021
Daveambition:

Ten toes; if yu blaze trees yu'd picture life outta harmful view

Please communicate in English. I don't understand gibberish
Religion / Re: Reflecting On Pastor Dare Adeboye's Death. What If It Was Daddy Freeze? by buragidi(m): 6:05pm On May 09, 2021
Hashabiah:
I told you earlier that corruption has destroyed the very fabric of the Nigerian politcal structure and this has nothing to do with religion. And you complaining about men of God living flamboyant lifestyles has nothing to do with the woes of Nigeria. And until we learn to accept responsibilities of our own problems as a people, this issues of corruption will never end.

You only restated yourself, you have not scientifically disociate religion from corruption in Nigeria. Indeed, religion ( both Islam and christianity) play crucial role in the level of corruption in Nigeria. I have earlier given examplesto substantiate this. I expected you to break those links. As long as money is the epicentre of your churches' message and their leaders keep frolicking with politicians, while living in flamboyance, corruption will keep increasing.

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Religion / Re: Reflecting On Pastor Dare Adeboye's Death. What If It Was Daddy Freeze? by buragidi(m): 6:00pm On May 09, 2021
Daveambition:

Omo; yu be evil. Yu need help.

Na dem. If there is anyone who needs help, it is your likes who are derided of logic and critical thinking.

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Religion / Re: Reflecting On Pastor Dare Adeboye's Death. What If It Was Daddy Freeze? by buragidi(m): 5:57pm On May 09, 2021
Thanks. Like I said. These curses dont work. Even the one placed by their GOs don't work. If they do, by now, there would be no boko haram or fulani herdsmen in Nigerian again.

OkCornel:
Dear OP, you have written very well on the matter.

Sadly religious zealotry and critical reasoning are oil and water. They hardly mix.

Now let’s watch and see religious zealots invoke curses and insult the OP for this truth.
Religion / Re: Reflecting On Pastor Dare Adeboye's Death. What If It Was Daddy Freeze? by buragidi(m): 5:54pm On May 09, 2021
It is pointless engaging you.


Daveambition:

How can yu ask me to ASSUME someone departed from this earth & yu say yu didn't just wish the person dead'.?
Religion / Re: Reflecting On Pastor Dare Adeboye's Death. What If It Was Daddy Freeze? by buragidi(m): 5:49pm On May 09, 2021
Hashabiah:
Nigeria's problem is does not lie in religion. It lies in the fact that we have a corrupt structure. There was a time in Nigeria were one dollar was the equivalent of one naira and still, there was religion in Nigeria and progress was reported. So what happened? Corruption occurred

You cannot divorce religion from the politics and problems of Nigeria. Today, hardly can anyone become a leader in Nigeria without religion endorsement. The vice president of Nigeria is a senior pastor in Nigeria. Oyedepo would always attack the government of the day when he supported the past administration. All our GOs are politically inclined . That is at the strategic level.

At the base of the pyramid, the kind of messages our churches preach are problems on their own. These are messages that make people to beleive that success is a function of supernatural break through, instead of diligence and creativity. These are messages that make people to beleive they can see where they did not sow (they call it unmerited favour).

The flamboyance and elegance of todays pastors do not help matters. Instead of developing the real sector, many Nigerian professionals would rather turn to pastors, lie to people in the name of prosperity messages and build an empire from the sweat of the poverty-stricken members, while promising them blessings and eternity.

The above destroys creativity and build the culture of laxity in a population.

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Religion / Re: Reflecting On Pastor Dare Adeboye's Death. What If It Was Daddy Freeze? by buragidi(m): 5:36pm On May 09, 2021
Daveambition:
Wtf..
Omo, e don rascal til the stage of fellow MEN go stylishly dey wish their own kind death as per blogging? Aghh

Nobody wished anybody death. I know it is a long post. Please go back and read. The write up never wished anyone dead. ...and I am not a blogger.
Religion / Re: Reflecting On Pastor Dare Adeboye's Death. What If It Was Daddy Freeze? by buragidi(m): 5:35pm On May 09, 2021
Hashabiah:
This writeup sounds like one who is disgruntled about Adeboye being a pastor of God.

What has been disgruntled has told do with posting a reflection on an occurrence?

And what is the big deal about being a pastor, especially in Africa, anyone who has the ability to lie and sell himself out as a powerful man can be a pastor in Africa.

Have you wondered how backward Nigeria is despite producing pastors?

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Religion / Reflecting On Pastor Dare Adeboye's Death. What If It Was Daddy Freeze? by buragidi(m): 5:12pm On May 09, 2021
It is no longer a breaking news that the General overseer (GO) of the Redeemed Christian Church of God (RCCG) lost one of his sons, who is also a pastor during this week. Undoubtedly, this is is indeed a trying time for the revered pastor and the entire RCCG family.

I have watched with keen interest how people concluded that it was the will of God for Dare to be called 'home' by God. I have also read the statement of the father that he could not blame or question God (of course nobody can).

One thing about pastor Adeboye is that he has held himself out to the public as someone who is preferred by God to other people. In his ministrations, he has made people to beleive that he is always hearing from God in all circumstances. He has also told the stories of how God has used him to perform miracles that are beyond human comprehension. For example, pastor Adeboye has told the story of how he ran out of fuel and God asked him to urinate inside his fuel tank and God converted his urine to fuel and he was able to complete his journey. Although, nobody confirmed the veracity if this story, many 'beleivers take them hookline and sinker'. In another sermon, he has told his followers that he frank tea with God. This is not to mention a lot of stories where he reiterated how God used him to heal the sick and also resurrected the dead.

This stories which are eloquently told in the context of the scripture makes many people to perceive pastor Adeboye as a supernatural man. Also, unlike some other pastors, eg Johnson Suleman, Biodun Fatoyinbo et al., Pastor Adeboye has stayed above scandal. This may be as a result of his age and his educational attainments.

In all, Pastor Adeboye is not just a respected man of God, he also reputed as a man who hears directly from God. I have seen people rushing over themselves to sit on a chair he just left, believing they could receive solutions to their problems. Sometimes ago, I saw a video of a young boy who even said Angel confirmed to him that Adeboye is God in human form. The clown even advised other pastors to close down their churches and acknowledged Adeboye. Indeed, Adeboye has warned against the glorification of his name in the past, but his sermons always portray him as a man who is not ordinary. Looking at the above, it came as a surprise to many how a man with such an acclaimed supernatural power, the one who drinks tea with God and raise the dead, can just lose his son at the old age. Many critics have begun to ask if Adeboye is actually a supernatural being or he just held himself out, used evangelical marketing strategy to launch himself out and remain relevant.

On the flip side, a man called Ifedayo Olarinde, popularly known as Daddy Freeze came out in the past few years to challenge most of the doctrines in churches, especially the pentecostal. The most popular of this is payment of tithes. Daddy freeze used biblical verses to establish that tithing is not just unchristian, it is an outright stealing from Church goers by their pastors. Many pastors and their followers started to raise curses on Daddy freeze. For example, Ayo Oritsajafor, in a program in RCCG holy ghost congress specifically said Daddy Freeze would soon die. Other pastor also said he would die before the end of that year. More recently, Pastor Ibiyeomie and Paul Enenche declared war against Daddy Freeze. Permit me to say that Dady Freeze himself is also a hustler (my view). For example, after forging an unholy alliance with Johnson Suleman, a man whobhas consistently been in the news for all manners of terrible things, Daddy Freeze would look away on Suleman scandals and quickly come to his defence at every slight opportunity. A case study of this is the recent scandal of Johnson Suleman man sleeping with the wife of one of his Pastor, Mike davids. Another is his defence of a story told by Suleman where a man who claimed to have no visa in Germany entered a Toilet in Germany and got teleported to Ireland.

Notwithstanding the above, many pastors and their members beleive that Daddy Freeze is a problem of the church. When he was asked to pay N5 Million for committing adultery. Many commentators who are Christian reiterated how that is just the beginning of his calamity for insulting pastors and how it God dealing with him.

Summing the above together, Pastor Dare Adeboye is dead and it is important to commiserate with with the Adeboyes on this irreparable loss. Many commentators today beleive it was God that called him home. The question remains that despite the supposed supernatural power of the Dad and his special relationship with God, how come he could neither prevent the death of his son or raise him (as he has always done for others). The likes of Johnson Suleiman, who has also claimed to have raise the dead in the past, how come they cannot demonstrate this power, when it is most needed? Does it still make sense to consider these individuals as special men as been paraded in view of the present situation.

Also, assuming that Daddy Freeze is the departed, would people also concluded that it is just the will of God or many would rejoice that it was a payment for his sins?

On a final analysis. No man is preferred by God above others. We are all equal before God. God does not speak through Adeboye, Oyedepo et al. to speak to you and they have no solution to your problem. They only held themselves out and used media to market themselves. You beleive in it and yiu got entangled for life. The interesting thing is that you would also indoctrinate your children and they continue to reference a man that is of equal value with them.

Also, anybody can die at anytime. You don't have to commit sin before you die. People die as a result of so many things. Religious curses have no effect on anybody. If those curses work, by now, all boko haram members would have been long dead in Nigeria.

I just feel like sharing my thoughts on this issue.

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Crime / Re: Lecturer Jailed Over Romance Scam In Kwara State by buragidi(m): 8:34am On Mar 13, 2021
JaeYi:
Konji don kill this one

You don't gerrit. This has got nothing to do with Konji. This is simply a case of a man who impersonated a lady to scam the lady's lover.
Celebrities / Re: Abdulsalam Sanyaolu 'Charles Olumo' Celebrates His 97th Birthday (Photos, Video) by buragidi(m): 1:22pm On Feb 27, 2021
Lols..Nobody can Tamilaya. He, who tamilaya is takulaya. He who takulaya will die woorolly and jejentically.

"E ee ti gba kamu, loote yi lesese wa gba kamu. O ya, fun won ni kamu ni kookan"

This is of the greatest actors of our time. One of the one who laid foundation of nolkywood. In those days, agbako and his crew would move from cities to cities and villages to villages for stage play, especially during festive seasons.

Happy birthday to a great icon. LL& P sir.

Icyexpressions:
Enitamilaya, takulaya.....

Happy birthday sir

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Celebrities / Re: Shina Peters Ordained Bishop At Cherubim And Seraphim Church (Pics, Video) by buragidi(m): 2:29pm On Feb 01, 2021
Thanks for this. SSP was born into K&S Church. There is none of his albums he doesn't use their hymns.

Up till today he still plays good music.


As far as I am concerned, afro-juju series is one of the best music ever produced in Nigeria.

Up till tomorrow, anytime anywhere SSP music is played, people must dance.





happney65:



Lol..How do you mean?He attends the Cherubim and seraphim church.He does not hide it and never has..His hit songs had the church even featuring in there..Whatever church he attends no even concern me.I am a big Fan of SSP and will forever be!

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Religion / Re: Daddy Freeze Schools Chris Oyakhilome On Criticizing Pastors (Video) by buragidi(m): 3:48pm On Jan 03, 2021
[quote author=aribisala0 post=97680521]
Clearly a case of childhood Post Traumatic Stress Disorder
Full of misdirected anger and hate[/quotest

Misdirected anger to an inconsequential element with dual identity/ or he who jumps on a matter he has no knowledge of?

Define yourself.
Religion / Re: Daddy Freeze Schools Chris Oyakhilome On Criticizing Pastors (Video) by buragidi(m): 3:46pm On Jan 03, 2021
foreshore:


Obviously you are not ok. I don't travel by train or public transport but I drive. I only talked about that because of hapless people like you and to let the whole world know of the insincerity of government. Go and prepare yourself better. We are not on the same level small boy.

No you talked about it because of yourself. In the first instance, nobody accused you of being uncomfortable before you started shouting I am comfortable up and down like a headless goat. That gave you out as a broke ass living a fake life on a faceless forum.

Comfortable people don't shout I am comfortable up and down.

We are saying you are deficiency in scriptural knowledge thereby positioning you as a prey for pastorpreneurs and you are shouting you are comfortable up and down.

What should I expect from a man who equates the con men he called men if God to God. How lowly can one be?
Religion / Re: Daddy Freeze Schools Chris Oyakhilome On Criticizing Pastors (Video) by buragidi(m): 3:39pm On Jan 03, 2021
aribisala0:
Stop pretending
You are an illiterate dunce full of anger and empty pride.


I am not interested in your issues with whoever

I asked you a very simple question and you started foaming at the mouth

Clearly you have anger and self esteem issues

All I asked you was


Why won;t comfortable people know the price of stuff?

Now I see you are confused.

If you are not one and only with the moniker foreshore, then you have no business responding to my post in the first instance.

Should you, common sense should teach to go back to history. But I won't blame you. Common sense is not common to common people
Religion / Re: Daddy Freeze Schools Chris Oyakhilome On Criticizing Pastors (Video) by buragidi(m): 3:30pm On Jan 03, 2021
aribisala0:


You have issues with reading and comprehending English

Where did I say I was comfortable

Anger and irritability are signs of mental disorder

By the way, are you a man with dual identity on Nairaland?

My engagement is with a moniker foreshore, how that now became the headache of Aribisala0 is what I don't know.

If you are one and the same let us know that you have been using dual identity.
Religion / Re: Daddy Freeze Schools Chris Oyakhilome On Criticizing Pastors (Video) by buragidi(m): 3:17pm On Jan 03, 2021
aribisala0:


You sound very bitter?
Actually I did not complain or express any opinion about the train fare.
You seem to have a reading and comprehension problem

If a person complains it does not mean they are broke or cannot afford it

Even if they cannot afford it they have every right to complain

Most Nigerians are broke and cannot afford it or do you think that once you are comfortable it does not matter about others?

Your reasoning is very childish

Also you clearly have self esteem issues which you compensate for by putting others down.
How much money you have is not what determines your worth as a human being
In fact money brings out the ugliness in many people
Now let me express an opinion on the train fare which I did not do before.

The train fare is not affordable for well over 95% of Nigerians. So who exactly are the trains for? Billionaire like you?

In any decent society we should look at the affordability for those who earn minimum wage

Rid your self of the mentality that
I have more than you therefore I am better than you. Do so before it is too late

You are just a clown trying effortlessly to justify rubbish.

You are speaking on behalf of 90% of Nigerians. Who appointed you as their speaker?. You obviously have issues with paying 6k for train fro Lagos to Ibadan. It is a big deal to you. Intelligent people can read emotions behind written words. You expressed the view consistently to show how it is important to you.

You now come to a faceless forum to claim you are comfortable when nobody accused of not being comfortable in the first instance. Coming out to start shouting you are comfortable up and down gave you out as a poor man who is struggling for acceptance.

To show your buffonery, you even stupidly stated you have more than someone you have never met in your life. I pity your life. Who is competing with you?

We are talking about how you lack scriptural understanding and how you are vulnerable to ignorance which is typified in your post and you are saying you are comfortable. Unfortunately your post suggests that you are in the business of humping from bus to bus from Lagos to Ibadan. Yet you kept shouting you are comfortable.

Go and find something reasonable to do with your life. He who saw free money in his dream is advised to work hard for hunger knocks very hard.

Poor man living fake life on faceless forum.

I am comfortable ko, I am tablecof ni.

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