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Dsov2016:
but hollywood has been having all black staring cast since 1929

Agreed.
But the scale of this film is no where near those films.
It's also directed by a black man and the budget is probably unprecedented in terms of black themed films.

Plus it's a critical look into what might have been if Africa had not been invaded by colonial forces.

There are so many reasons to celebrate it. It is not the usual film that stereotypes Africa for negativity (disease, poverty, illiteracy). It celebrates Africa as a possible technological power and its place as a moral compass in the world. It shows a world that possibly could turn to Africa as a solution for its problems. I could go on and on.

Those possibly previous all black movies always highlighted one problem or the other usually associated with Africa (12 years a slave, etc).

kjhova:
Dear friend, please accept my apologies about my comment on functional brains as I see now how it could have come across as offensive. Believe me, abuse wasn't the intention.

That said, my take is that the more brain power people apply to the beliefs they were brought up with, the more ludicrous many of these stories tend to become. And indeed many have come to see the absurdities of religion but yet cannot seem to take that final step to get out of it completely. I wish that you and many more intelligent Africans will take this step for the good of the continent. Of course, my wish does not side step the fact that you have the freedom of thought and worship. I can only wish, be hopeful or shrug and move on.

No offense taken sir.
Your points have been duly noted.
Have a great day.

kjhova:
Maybe you ought to doubt the efficacy of God's word for a change.

Didn't the bible indeed state that preachers like Paul etc, cured venomous bites, raised the dead, healed the sick just by casting their shadows on them, chase demons out of mentally ill folks?

And didn't God's word tell us that the Sun stopped for a day, a snake deceived the first woman, Balaam's ass spoke, Jonah survived inside a fish's digestive system for 3 days??

Again, didn't the bible tell us that the rainbow is the symbol of a deal between Yahweh and Noah, that Jesus raised some dude from death 3 days after burial, that some angelic guys may soon appear in the clouds riding on horses and blowing trumpets or that some wholly new and mint city of Jerusalem is going to climb down from Heaven and be planted on planet Earth, complete with its 12 pearly gates and streets of gold and multi-fruit bearing trees

You oughtta doubt every religious book ever written if you have a tiny fraction of your brain still functioning at all.

Oga pls I'm at liberty to believe what I want.
So long as I'm contributing positively to society and I'm not being a nuisance to anybody.

If that is all you picked up from my post, then I actually think you are the one without a functional brain.
Thank you.

[quote author=judgedredd22 post=65142262][/quote]No.

I applaud you for breaking ish down like an enzyme on an organic compound.

I'm impressed

People look at stuff that isn't important and think they are making an argument.

judgedredd22:
aaawwww... butt hurt much?
I see you actually tried to impress me by taking your time to compose that dim-witted tripe up there. You tried but... some things are still missing though. Don't worry your empty head, you might grow to fill it with sense and some modicum of knowledge sometime in the future, i hope

I am actually moved by the effort you made, so touching.... because i know rëtards like you have feelings too!

Bro
Please I don't mean to tell you what you should be doing and it is your prerogative to associate with whoever you want to.
But I actually think that you shouldn't be responding to such low level form of intelligent discourse
I mean, a pig will gladly wrestle a man and get dirty and no one will bat an eyelid about it but the man will be seen as insane

You have made your points, salient and articulate. Anyone daft enough to argue otherwise should be left to his folly.

Nuff respect bro.

judgedredd22:
My good people, here is a good example of how people fail in their academics.

So in your reverse-educated mind, you actually think you made sense with this post?

In your supposed rant, you clearly thought the celebration was because the movie is about black panther. Sorry to burst your bubble but the celebration is not about black panther as a movie. It is a celebration of the movie industry coming full circle and giving a major headline, big budget movie a black cast steeped in excellence. If you still don't understand why it is a big deal, maybe you should first of all, get to studying (if you know how to) the history of race and racism in the film/movie industry.

Secondly, it is big in america mostly because the movie's (with it's historical significance and context) release is in February - which in America is Black History month. Get it? (that is also why the movie company slated the release to sync, for maximum effect and profits - it s still someone's biz you know )

Thirdly, within the context of the movie, though it might be fiction, it epitomises independence and excellence set in african landscape which is contrary to already formed opinions/stereotypes about africa as a land of uncivilized, primitive people in need of constant help and support (Que Donald Trump's 'shithole' comment some weeks ago). The movie is already helping to shape narratives towards the positive in this context. A whole lot of foreigners are ignorant in this aspect.


These issues may seem trivial to you, as a shortsighted individual that you are. If you ever lived outside the shores of the african continent then maybe you would begin to understand the weight of shaping narratives. Just like Chimamanda Adichie has been trying to do by shaping the mindsets of foreigners towards africa through FICTION and breaking away the laid down history from a single story point of view, as told by colonialists. I'm sure you never understood why she is widely celebrated.

So, next time before you start spewing brain farts, do some reading and studying on the subject in question before making a fool of yourself in public. And the music/soundtrack to the movie is not chiefly american music, if you must know. The artistes are mostly black and african (with exception of james blake), from europe, africa and america. Which on its own, is nod to the cohesion of the black race across continents.

Movies might be FICTION, but there's a lot that goes into movie projects by way of subliminal messaging which has a lot of stakes behind it.
Have you ever wondered what africa would have been like as at today, without the interference of the foreigners - arabian, european and american? That is the sub-message behind the movie and that is why blacks all over are hyped - it is about the social narrative, not FICTIONAL Black Panther. Maybe you should study some history and be informed context-wise. Before the slavery era, africans were technologically advanced and educated, and were kings in EUROPE, yes, the same europe!

You need to get your reasoning upgraded, from the kindergaten level where it is at the moment, to that of an aware black adult. READ!!

Couldn't have put it any better.
You give me hope that we still have articulate people and we are not doomed.

ClintonNzedimma:
Your points are useless as 'ueue' in the word queue.
Yes Wakanda is fictional, it depicts an Africa that could have been if we got our acts right.
It tells you there is nothing wrong in being in touch with your Africa roots and being advanced in society at the same time.
Forget the movie and focus on the story

As in.
He starts his post with "this is fiction" and "I used to read the comics".
He now wants to marry fiction with reality by bringing out senseless questions

If he can't see why this movie should be celebrated (I.e. the evolution of Hollywood to embrace an all black starring cast with reference to Africa) then he is as dumb as concrete.

Not to judge, but. . .

Let your light so shine before men so that they may see your good works and glorify your father in heaven. . .

This saddening thing happens all the time.

I remember as a little boy how a neighbor lost his wife.
She had breast cancer. The diagnosis was surgery to perform a mastectomy.
Husband (a university lecturer o) decided to listen to a prophecy by a so-called prophet that she would be healed.
When her case got worse, they rushed her to UCH but by that time it was too late.

This discarding of the brain when it comes to "God's word" as it were is my problem with Pentecostal Christianity today. I don't doubt the efficacy off God's word. But I think it is being misinterpreted and being thoroughly abused by its paddlers in human form.

So sad

connectikut89:
U're equally doing a good job my brother. We will not allow peddlers of the word of God for money twist scriptures. Not under our watch!

You don't know petra1
The biggest twister of God's word per excellence this part of the equator.

He is lucky we aren't in the Old Testament where lightning from heaven used to strike errant folks. Else all this his biblical somersaults for don earn am one bolt

being:
Whatever the sorry case in the church today, all Christians ought to belong to a church according to Heb 10:25. If you feel distressed where you are, you should ask for guidance from the Holy Spirit on which church to go.
But by all means, every bornagain needs to be committed to a church.

Oga pause right there.
"Assembly of the Brethren"is the key phrase in that verse you quoted.
Does what is going on in the so called churches resemble any kind of "assembly of the brethren"?
Places where cliques and associations are formed, usually based on how rich you are?
Places where "brethren"cheat and extort themselves all to get rich?
Places where gossiping, jealousy, backbiting and backstabbing exists?
Places where modesty and humility no longer exist but rather people come to show off?
Places where "brethren" cannot hold one another accountable including so called pastors?

Certainly that isn't the place to be when you want to grow your faith. No not these churches.

Park well oga. The Holy Spirit isn't someone you just call anyhow.

giftedben:
Mine was the day I put offering in the basket and as the pastor was preaching, looking at the basket, the currency he saw in there got him annoyed. Then he changed the topic and said he doesn't want to be seeing 5, 10, 20, 50, and 100. The least amount should be N200, that very day I quite the church. I haven't gone to church for 10 years. I am living happily in God's ways.

Bishop Mike Okonkwo once told his congregation that he doesn't want to see any denomination lower than N100 when they were taking an offering for the needy.
This was in 2005 or 6.

His wife told the congregation that she needed 10 people to pledge N250k to support their Kingdom Life World Conference. 2004.

My co-worker who doubles as a pastor was debating with me on tithing and I asked him where the storehouse in Mal 3:10 (that they always rush to quote when they want to dissuade you from thinking for yourself on this tithing issue) was located. His answer: Bank Account. I swear by my daughter that I kid you not. He actually said that.

Like Jesus ever burdened anyone to give or forcefully coerced people to give in the first place.

But no, these so called pastors of today with more insight into the word of God than the Word himself (Jesus) are telling us to do things that the Word never told us to. All to satisfy their own selfish desires and nothing more.

Me I have sworn off church till the find somewhere that resembled the modus operandi of the early church: breaking bread regularly, not having anyone in need and in one accord. Until then these churches are nothing more than glorified social centers where the haves show off and the have-nots aspire to be like the haves irrespective of how the haves had their success.

chloedogie:
Poverty mindset. May you be rich in life I pray God for u. And with your wealth send your kids to the cheap government school's okay. Are the schools owned by the other founders and proprietors not expensive as well? Why are you just adamant about theirs? One thing is you are just against Christianity and for your info, as you are complaining and making accusations, souls are getting saved. Your opinion doesn't count though. All you can do is talk and talk

Thank you.
Why engage a gutter rat like me? Since your primary reason for being a "Christian" is to enjoy earthly riches, you might as well shut up and ignore my posts.

You call yourself a Christian but you judge people you don't even know.
That's why I will never want to associate myself with "Christians", because of people like you who are intellectually lazy and too stupid to stay within the lanes of a simple argument.; because of people like you who can't be bothered to live out what you profess.

Again please leave me out of your inbredstûpidity

chloedogie:
Laffssss. Now you know right? There is reason why positions are awarded in classrooms. Everyone is a student but there are the distinct ones. Just like your parents are distinct training you and educating you. Up north are some parents fighting western education. So that yours supported you makes them one of the best out there and the best for you. I know you celebrate them and I celebrate them for you too.

Please don't quote me again.
I have little time for your ilk.
Thank you.

chloedogie:
There is something called numbers when it comes to achievements. Ronaldo and messi are footballers but what makes them distinct is the five a piece world footballer of the year awards won. Mandela was the president of south Africa so also is Zuma presently but I know you one the difference between them. The basic responsibility of every mother is mothering her child/children but some go out of the circle by mothering the motherless kids out there(not necessarily without a biological mother). And among these ones are pastor Mrs Oyedepo and pastor Mrs Adeboye. Like them or hate them they are exceptional mothers.

Grade A opaks.

Arrant nonsense.

frosbel2:
He once drove from Benin to Lagos on an empty fuel tank He is a BLOODY LIAR

I pity his clueless sheeple

Lol.

Have you heard the porker he told about a woman he met on the road sidewhose fetus had died inside her and he laid hands on her stomach and months later she delivered a bouncing baby?

If these lying frauds are the ones championing their gospel then I want no parts of it.

chloedogie:
Establish a school and make it free. Atiku has a school and isn't free. Obasanjo does. Igbinedion does. Patience Jonathan does. And countless politicians that drained the purse of this country and they are not free schools. Yet you are glad to take your wards to school there and boast of it. Yet when it comes to these pastors you start sweating for no reason. Didn't the so called politicians and big men with big schools study in those free schools? sentiment kills

Arrant garbage. Who brought politicians into this?
Are you this daft?
did they or did they not attend free mission schools?
If the answer is yes, then stop contributing to global warming and Shut up.

I noticed you didn't address how costly their schools are. But I don't expect you to since your brain has been formatted by steady brainwashing
Thank you.
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I left my own because the church heirarchy told us to start paying an extra 10%.

Why?

Because they said it was to help the G.O. in achieving his dream to relocate his university to his hometown in Osun State. That it was his dream to achieve it for his 70th birthday. They called it "sacrificial tithe".

(You can add up the info to detect the church and the personality in question)

I left because tithing in itself is a controversial issue, yet these people keep adding to our burdens. I could consider donating if the project wasn't personal. But no, they must tax us inspire of all they take from us in the name of "the Lords work" yet they don't care that we need to meet our obligations and responsibilities

With all the money the church receives every Sunday from illegal and fraudulent tithing doctrine and coerced multiple offerings, it is not enough and hence we must foot the bill for relocating I school I probably do not have any chance of sending my child to

This selfishness is why there is no growth in the church spiritually. This is why heathens will continue to mock it and serious souls will continue to question the basis of their faith.

Farmafric:
May God continue to bless these women who have stood in thin and thin with their husbands to create world class organisation that have not only affected lives of millions of Nigerians but globally as well. The church in Nigeria have contributed to our development more than any other organization had. Starting from the Catholic and CMS missionaries that brought civilization to Idahosa, Awesome, Oyedipo that thought us that we can be real prince and princesses.

When you have finished with your own quota of depleting the ozone layer you will eventually run out of gas and stop disturbing the peace with this hot air you are blowing on cyberspace
Their husbands attended schools brought in by missionaries for free.
They set up theirs so that only children of mostly corrupt politicians can attend excluding you the bootlicker and praise singer.
Grow a brain and think

frosbel2:
Correct. It's all fake!

My bro.
What these people are peddling is as real as a £2 note.

They do not reflect what they preach. They give false auras about themselves but the discerning can see through the facades they hide under.

Adeboye makes people think he is humble but he is a cunning manipulator who tells made up stories to get his gullible sheep to part with their cash. His wife? Please.

Is that why charlatans on the pulpit and even in this forum are twisting it to suit their narratives?

frosbel2:
Eating the tithe

As in.
One cannot bring her husbands temper under control to stop him from throwing curses up and down and slapping illiterate juveniles on his so called pulpit.
Yet they say they are radiating the glory of God.

As for the other one, no comment. The so-called Motherin Israel is not as angelic as they portray her to be. Let her wear all the frocks and umbrella hats in the world to deceive people into thinking they are humble.

I know the touch-not-my-anointed crew will have me for dinner but I don't care.

seunlayi:
This is nice and an inspiration to other women

Which inspiration? Why are you so easily fooled by facades?

One of them is a hardcore tribalist.
I know that for a fact.

Don't be fooled by appearances.

MrPRevailer:
The Chosen people are everywhere with their protection. Even in Sambisa, Chosen doctors and workers serving in the military are there.

Recently, a Chosen member justed completed his contract with the military in the North and was applauded $50,000 for his wonderful services.
Even in surprise attacks by bokoharam, He remain untouchable when others were massacred/injured.

When people call you chosen people lunatics you will start crying persecution
I'm surprised this incident hasn't yet been blamed on Fulani herdsmen

Please tell us verifiable stories, not made up tales you lot call testimonies.

stieyven:
DO NOT TAKE THE NAME OF THE LORD IN VAIN. Exodus 20 :7

Sorry but there is no correlation between your post and what he said.
He mentioned the pastor giving them yellow vests for protection. I don't see where he took the name of the Lord in vain.

Stop being over religious over a matter that requires simple common sense. Quoting scripture to intimidate people is never the way to convince people.

The weapons of our warfare are not carnal
Explain why you have to wear a yellow jacket for protection according to Muoka, rather than throw about scripture that doesn't do justice to the issues.

deeway200:
Are these not the persecutions the Bible talked about?

Don't be daft.

The persecution is for the works of your faith not for doing stupíd things like confronting a masquerade

People will persecute you for telling the truth in your workplace because you are a follower of Christ.

It says a lot about you when Jamie Redknapp is your reference for anything.

Enough said

Arsenal is not abig club.
But they've spent £56 million on just one player.
Add to the £52 million they spent on another at the start of this season.
They have convinced Özil to sign a contract worth £300,000 a week.

But one unruly lout says they are a "small club".

Truly I shouldn't have bothered wrestling in the mud with a pig. It will get dirty and enjoy it because it is in its nature to be dirty.

As for the inane cretïn calling people idïots, we're still waiting for something sensible to be said by it.

afrodoc2:
"Aguero is finished". Dayo 2017.
hehehe

pamcode:
Aguero can't function in a one Man strike force. lol

Watch the kain amala turning wey your guy go come use explain this im gaffe.
You don see personwey dey turn amala with fore finger before?

Omo Mkhi is just one overgrown Lilliputian

See him telling Daily Fail that Jose was hard on him and that Wenger is friendlier.

Honestly how did we end up with this crybaby b1tch?
WasJose supposed to be his nanny? Or did he expect Jose to keep changing his nappies after every sh1tfest he served us most of the time?

Lana1:
Lets all pretend like we didnt see that shot abi shey na cross he sent to throw-in from inside the box in the first half!!

No need to pretend. We saw it and it was no surprise.
Someone actually thinks that Mkhi is class after serving us sh1tstorms at United.
The mor0n that typed that dog vomit is no sighted and dumb.
If he thinks a switch to Arsenal will activate Mkhi into replacing Sanchez, then his mor0nic imbecility is worse than his post implied.