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This is getting interesting ..... Scammers ! They should show me where "Jesus and the apostles collect TITHE" and commerical " firstfruit" ?

Syncan:
O yeah? You didn't read about the wedding of the lamb? Is Jesus not a king? Whose kingship lasts forever? (vs 6).Which king do you have in mind that hate iniquity and loves righteousness; whom God has anointed? (vs 7). I have made this clear before, but you are so blinded by hard hardheartedness and deceit to note it.

Jesus Is God.God said that Jesus is God, scripture bore witness that Jesus is God. ( Heb1:8, Ps 45:6, Jn1:1)

complete it na ..... The lamb get married to the daughter of tyre !!! The rendering of ur KJV is biased , and the fact that someone is called " God" doesnt make him Equal to the " ONE GOD, THE FATHER" !! The one God is composed of Only the father !! 1cor 8:5,6 ... I hear a barcelona fan say lionel messi and cristiano ronaldo are " Gods" !! talent

Let me get one point cleared: U And I are part of creation BY God .. Though not d beginning !!! Bible states plainly that Jesus is d beginning of CREATION by God ?? Yes / No

singlealone:
lets continue reading to verse 13
13 Others mocking said, These men are full of new wine.

14 But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judaea, and all ye that dwell at Jerusalem, be this known unto you, and hearken to my words:

15 For these are not drunken, as ye suppose, seeing it is but the third hour of the day.

Those that believed, the bible called them devout/pious men heard their own languages spoken but mockers who didnt believe accused them of being filled with new wine.

Thanks ..... Scripture mentions many languages spoken by the apostles : "they spoke the language of d Medes, Parthians, Elamites, Inhabitants Of Mesopothamia, Judea, Ca-ppa-docia, Pontus, ..d district of Asia , Egypt,libyan Dialect , " Walla!! So Also " Rome, Creatans, Arabian" ..Reference: Act 2:5-10

So Whats the name of the language spoken by todays preachers ??

And wich part of d world spoke d language ??

StarBoard:
@frosbel,
thanks for the heads up.

The underlying theme of these ravenous scavengers is to make you part with your cash against what the scripture says.
10% or whatever, these lazy bums are not going to give up.

I still think the 10% message is still in full force.

My sister told me of this pastor who was telling his congregation of someone who died and went to hell and saw christians who didnt pay their tithe there

Dont be suprised with such novels called story

" ... They will accumulate teachers for themselves to have their hears tickled, and they will turn their ears away from the truth, whereas, they will be turn aside to false stories " - 2 tim 4:3,4 !!! ,

Tithe is d silent yahoo scam of the 21st century ..... So dont be suprised when everyone wanna become a pastor by opening business shops they named church

I Heard our lord Jesus said : "we sud love our enemies and pray for those who persecute us" Matt 5:44 ...... Can we curse dem ??

Ur definition of God sounds crazy and unbiblical
Imagine john 3:16 ! God sent his only begotten son ... Dats clear . But ur devilish logic will render it as: God the father, the son, the holyspirit sent his only begotten son !! ....... Is the son not the same person called only begotten son !!! God sent God ?? Such heresy wasnt written , its all human tradition to make God'word invalid !!!


All trinitarians know that the whole doctrine will sink deep into the sea if dey admit the fact written about Jesus in Rev 3:14 : " ( Jesus) is the beginning of the creation BY God" !!!

Syncan:
The one who yokes together is the one who creates, and that is God says you, OK.

Col 1:17. He is before all things, and in him all things are held together....Talking about Jesus Christ

Jn 1:3. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made....Talking about the word(Jesus Christ)

I don't even know the one to take from you guys, so who is this one talking about below:

Psalm 8:3. When I consider thy heavens, the work of thy fingers, the moon and the stars, which thou hast ordained

Jesus is God.

do u even read at all .... Psalmist has Jehovah the God of d jews in mind , and Christ himself calls d father the creator ! U think he is proud as u , Jesus Exclaim "he made them in the beginning " Mark 6:10 ! He didnt say " I create them in d beginning" !! Though used....Matthew 19:4-6 has d details !!!

Jesus himself was created by the Father ( Rev 3:14)

Syncan:
Please show me where i posted that you said so. I needed your opinion and i said you should be truthful about it, true or false ?

Oh you have already concluded that I am twisting the bible, while you are the one holding on to Jehova needing a proxy Jesus to create the world. When your jehova spoke, Jesus did what exactly for light to appear? I actually thought you sincerely want to learn, but It's now clear you've hardened up your heart to hold on to a lie.

Gen 1:6-7 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.

The truth shall set you free.

Relax .... Jesus Christ Refer To His Father as the Creator (check Matthew 19:4-6 'what God yoke togeda' the one who create them ... Mark 10:6 )

@OP ........ Show me where Jesus and the Apostles Collect "Tithes" ??

dolphinheart:
They say they are three that make one, but that one is not three in it( me , I'm so confused)
they say the Christ is God, the almighty. Christ means anointed one, so who anointed the almighty? So confusing
They say the Christ also serves as high priest , high priest to who ? High priest to himself ?
They say they are equal, yet one learnt from the other and is always doing his will.

They say the seed is God himself
They now use English, philosophy, and other man made knowledge to explain the bible . No wonder we where being pre-warned about belief in human knowledge.

thats d darkness in christendom ..... An example of usin philosophy is Col 1:15 , " firstborn of creation" !! BIBLE USAGE:The title "firstborn of ISREAL" is used for reuben in 1chro 5:1 whom is a PART of ISREAL .

"firstborn of PHARAOH" in Ex 11:5 refers to somone whom is part of Pharaohs family !! Why is d firstborn of CREATION not a part of creation ?? imagine

Syncan:
Please just let your brain work for a minute, don't be quick to push out words. It is very clear that I started by explaining to you the import of the use of the phrase "In the name". If you see any where "in the name" was used for the three you just wrote there together, please let me know. Go check the latest watchtower edition, maybe a new adulterated bible is out that has it. Stop exposing your lack of comprehension. Smh at "in front of".

before u type, relax ..... Dont let ur anger control u, u sud control it or else u may develop hypertension ! Thanks for da insults .....

Am not perfect by sayin "in front of" and av humbly correct my mistake !!, ONCE Again 1tim 5:21 " I charge u b4 God AND Christ Jesus AND the chosen angels" !! Whatever make u say God is also christ Jesus in dis verse then=The chosen Angels , God = Christ Jesus= Angels ! Walla ..Or else we face the truth ,God is not christ, &christ is not the chosen angels ! 1 tim 5:21

@ Syncan .... Dat scripture only says baptize in the name !!! And It didnt say " God the father, God the son, God the holyspirit" !!!!

They bought the land in the "name of UNILAG"!! Has nothing to do with God

I Wonder What someone like you will think about 1tim 5:21 wich says " I charge you before God AND Christ Jesus AND the chosen angels" !!! Goin by ur analogy .... They ar all one person! God= Christ Jesus= Chosen Angels !!! Whatever makes u different those angels will also mean God and christ jesus are different ! U may call it Billionity

Trinity is d greatest absurdity in dis era !!!

If someones reads Colosians 3:1 that says " Christ Seats at the right hand of God" !!! Accordin to trinitarian absurdity .... That scripture means

" Christ seat at the right hand of God the father, the son , the holyspirit" !!!! Trinity is total heresy !!!!

Trinity is d greatest absurdity in dis era !!!

If someones reads Colosians 3:1 that says " Christ Sits at the right hand of God" !!! Accordin to trinitarian absurdity .... That scripture means

" Christ seat at the right hand of God the father, the son , the holyspirit" !!!! Trinity is total heresy !!!!

What do you think ??

1) Is Jesus The Father Of Jesus?


2) since they are one ....... WHAT happen to the father and holyspirit , when the son dies for three days ??

Syncan:
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So this is what you guys stay in your "gossip kingdom hall" and talk about? It's so lame. While Christians are praying, you people in your cult are busy mocking them abi? Why will you pray, when you're eyeing IBB's house, to posses it when "Armageddon" comes. I no blame una at all. Pathetic lot!

what does kingdom hall have to do with my personal observation ? Am sure captivator will soon ask u to explain the scripture he gave u which u are stylishly running away from

dolphinheart:
They have been and still trying to bring pagan beliefs and worship into the scriptures. But the scripture will keep refuting those beliefs and honest hearted ones will keep on seing there folly. Imagine, he says he is laughing at a very serious life and death matter. Does he not know that having knowledge of the true God and the one he sent means evalasting life?

Bro , they smell exactly as pagans ..... Who owns immortal soul ? Greek Pagans ! Who owns 3 in one god ? Pagans ! They dont know the true God and they dont care to know !!! They replace the divine name with " LORD" ! A title used by lawyers in addressin judges

When they say God ! They dont know whom they are callin, mayb it is God or Jesus or both ...... Infact I still ask dem what happen to the father and holyspirit when d son dies for three days ? They all died aftrall dey are one , or ar dey not one again? Bro, u can see the whole absurdity !

I came to realize that when u dont know the true God , ur prayer is meaningles ..... Notice their prayers wich is full of contradictions and repetition !!! .......

No wonder they all went to pray for a prosperous new year on december 31,2011 , only to enter a 2012 started with subsidy removal and 3 month strike .......... They went back again for this repetitive prayer in their various churches on december 31,2012 , what happen in 2013? An ASUU STRIKE that send all students home !!! .......... They went back again on december 31,2013 in their various churches as if its a ritual , this contradicting prayer , what happen in 2014 ? Strong one : EBOLA ! Bro, without knowing the true God JEHOVAH, and recognizing our lord Jesus as d one he sents ! Christendom is doomed

Syncan:
The problem with you is that you do not listen, or you are too stuffed by adulterated teaching, or you don't have the capacity to understand.

Just take a look at John 1:1-3

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same(word) was in the beginning with God. All things were made by (the word)him; and without him (word) was not any thing made that was made.


Jn1:3 All things were made by (the word)him; and without him (word) was not any thing made that was made.

Genesis 1:1: In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

Ask yourself : Is the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the one without whom nothing was made?


1Jn5:7 There are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit. And these three are one

Knockout to the prophets of Baal ...... Jehovah the God of Abraham , Isaac and Jacob is the Only True God and our lord Jesus Christ His Is Servant

" (JEHOVAH)The God of Abraham and of Isaac and of Jacob, the God of our forefathers, has glorified his servant, Jesus" ACT 3:13

Syncan:
Did you even read the texts completely? If Jesus ended it there, would there have been a need to differentiate? Hahaha, an idiom goes thus "If there were no trace of equality,the need to measure wouldn't arise". Jesus is a good teacher.


Heb1:1-8

God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,..... But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom


Question: Is Jesus really God?

Answer: Yes.

u dont even answer my question !!! I understand ur situation

But ar u sayin Jehovah the God of Abraham, Isaac And Jacob is d same person called Jesus ??

Syncan:
Hahahaha, now KJV may be right after all abi? No sir, it is not left for translators to determine, the import is not lost, even those that put "God" made sure they have the qualifier "Like" or in some cases "as" in front of it, you should not be confused about this if not mischief.


Now on the matter of Only true God bla bla bla, wey I no go rest, listen let me tell you what someone wrote as early as (235 AD)

Novatian

"If Christ was only man, why did he lay down for us such a rule of believing as that in which he said, ‘And this is life eternal, that they should know you, the only and true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent?’ [John 17:3]. Had he not wished that he also should be understood to be God, why did he add, ‘And Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent,’ except because he wished to be received as God also? Because if he had not wished to be understood to be God, he would have added, ‘And the man Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent;’ but, in fact, he neither added this, nor did Christ deliver himself to us as man only, but associated himself with God, as he wished to be understood by this conjunction to be God also, as he is. We must therefore believe, according to the rule prescribed, on the Lord, the one true God, and consequently on him whom he has sent, Jesus Christ, who by no means, as we have said, would have linked himself to the Father had he not wished to be understood to be God also. For he would have separated himself from him had he not wished to be understood to be God" (Treatise on the Trinity 16 [A.D. 235]).

Na small small I de come out. Jesus Is God.

C'mon this is not a kindergaten class , " that people may know YOU( 2nd person singular) the only true God" !! To differenite he adds " AND the one whom YOU " sent , Jesus Christ! ...... Its clear that the only true God sent Jesus christ! So who is that true God ??

No doubt , mum played an important role in our lives but yet:

Whom should a Man/lady love most , His/her Mum Or His/her Spouse ? This can determine a lot of things in their marital life , we have cases of Men or women who will rather listen to their Mums than their spouse , sud it be like dis ?

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Some says Mum and argued that: " ladies/men of nwadays ar friends wit benefit , once the worst came they fled!! And only ones parent stays forever"

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Some says Wife/husband , They Argued " He/she is my better half ..... We are one ! "

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Whom should a Person Love Most; His/her Mother OR his/her spouse ??

Syncan:
Ok, I should forget KJV, shebi una de hear am. Ok Let me bring other ones for this time:

New International Version
Then the LORD said to Moses, "See, I have made you like God to Pharaoh, and your brother Aaron will be your prophet.

New Living Translation
Then the LORD said to Moses, "Pay close attention to this. I will make you seem like God to Pharaoh, and your brother, Aaron, will be your prophet.

English Standard Version
And the LORD said to Moses, “See, I have made you like God to Pharaoh, and your brother Aaron shall be your prophet.

New American Standard Bible
Then the LORD said to Moses, "See, I make you as God to Pharaoh, and your brother Aaron shall be your prophet.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
The LORD answered Moses, "See, I have made you like God to Pharaoh, and Aaron your brother will be your prophet.

Thanks for ur time .... Since some say "god" and others " God" !!! Keep in mind that all have d hebrew word " Elohim" ! So its left for the translators to use d context in determining if its "god" or " God" !!!

But the question remains : Whom Did The Bible Or Jesus Refer To As The "ONLY TRUE GOD" ?? Bcoz our everlastin life depends on the knowledge of this person! So whom did the bible or Whom Did Jesus refer to as " THE ONLY TRUE GOD" ??

Syncan:
Chai...

Ex7:1 And the LORD said unto Moses, See, I have made thee a god to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet. KJV

These your modern alterations in the name of translating Scripture will compound your problems, even from your own posts, you see the use of "as" and some use "like". Just take a look at that one you wrote last, the one you called "Darby bible" that used jehova, did you see how cunningly the "as" or "like" had been made to disappear? hahahahaha, I no blame una, first you tell a lie, then you seek to cover it, hahahaha.

forget ur kjv .... The same only translation dat contains a spurious text in 1joh 5:7 ! !!! I cant even stop laughin when i read texts like psalm 110:1 wich says : The LORD said to my Lord !!! The lord said to my lord ..... I dont even know why they replace d divine name with " LORD" only to come out with absurd text as dis !!!

B4 i forget ... Once again , i ask , so far there are many God's and gods in heaven and earth! WHOM DID THE BIBLE OR WHOM DID JESUS QUALIFIES AS "THE ONLY TRUE GOD" ??

Syncan:
Stop talking nonsense. God knows when to use god and God in sentences.

haba!

Exodus 7:1 American Standard Version
" And Jehovah said unto Moses 'see I have made thee as God"

Exodus 7:1 New American Standard Bible
" Then the LORD said to Moses ' See , I have make you as God"

Exodus 7:1 International Standard Version
" The LORD told Moses " Listen, have positioned you as God"

Exodus 7:1 Darby Bible Translation
" And Jehovah said to Moses, See I have made thee God"

The Question Again: Whom Did The Bible Or Whom Did Jesus Refer To As The " ONLY TRUE GOD" ?

zyzxx:
don't contradict urself bro.
D bible say, "And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:" (Hebrews 9:27).
heaven or hell?
pls what ur point actually ?

MR, Ecclesistes 9:5 makes it clear that the dead knows nothing, this is clear from the resurection of the son of d widow of Nain, daughter of Jairus, Lazarus Of Bethany, NONE of these claimed afterlife talkless of been judged in d grave ! The same also applies to Dorcas raised by Peter ..... So Also Eutychus who fell from window and died , but raise by Paul !!! So dont misinterprete heb 9:27 , dat scripture has nothin to do with platonic afterlife.

Heb 9:27 refers to a future judgement after the ressurection! Act 17:31 answers: " He (God) has SET A DAY in which he purposes to judge the inhabited earth in righteousness by a man he has appointed"

What will that judgement accomplish for the earth? For when there are judgement from God for the earth, righteousness is what the inhabitants of the productive land will certainly LEARN - ISA 26:9 ! A day when the whole earth will learn righteousness

zyzxx:
den what are u waiting for?
Or u are tellin me u ar'nt going to die?

Lols you mock urself , yeah !! U sud ask urself that question so u can continue ur life in d Platonic afterlife myth

The Bible makes me understand dat there is no beforelife OR afterlife ...... What we have is " LIFE" ! And as a living being, I Know I Will Die " The living knows that they will die" Ecc 9:5 Exhibit A

But when I Die , it means am dead .... And concerning the dead, bible says " AS for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all" Ecc 9:5 Exhibit B

Where are the dead placed or going .... Bible answers " there is no knowledge or wisdom in d GRAVE where u are going" Ecc 9:10 Exhibit C

Do I Have Any Hope ? Yes ! The time is coming when " many of those asleep in the dust of the earth will wake up " Dan 12:2 ! Exhibit D

Syncan Post=28410372:
Jesus the Son of God is really God. God said so Heb 1:8

Moses the meekest man on earth is really God. God said so ( Exodus 7:1)

The vital point is: Whom did the Bible refer to as " THE ONLY TRUE GOD" ??

Indeed! False Religion Have Fool you all ..... God said: "YOU are dust, and to dust YOU shall RETURN" Gen 3:19 !! The pronoun "YOU" is not just the flesh ... Its a whole being ! Supply d Noun and we will have " Adam is dust and to dust Adam shall return" !

" the living know that they will die, but as for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all" Ecc 9:5,10 !!!

zyzxx:
Gud morning.
Wait are u telling me all christian should start dreaming or pursuing death?
We av destiny, we are to be fulfill and we av a home we are going to @ d end which is heaven

haba ! Heaven is home ke? You are about to travel to lagos, then the driver said: " mehn .... This journey will lead us all to heaven" !!! What will u do? Aftrall its home ! All of u will quickly get down, una no wan go home ... WHY?

Psalm 115:16 says: " the LORD has kept the heavens for himself, but he has given the earth to us humans" !!! This reminds u dat the billions of Angels livin in heaven are not people who have died on earth .

zyzxx:
nobody wanna die, but d truth is everybody is gonna die.
Don't get it twisted bro, not all christian are afraid of death. again we are serving God to av a fulfill life on earth and heaven also. God promise us both.
So if untimely death wanna pay a visit u will rebuke it because it not d plan of God for us.
d last time I check, d bible record 70 years minimum age, so what are we sayin sir

Its like u dont know what u are saying ..... Psalm 90:10 says maximum of 70 and 80 by extra-strenght ! NOT minimum

This ur idea of rebukin untimely death shows you know the truth about death!!! Do u know why David is running away from King Saul?? ... Psalm 115:17 says : " the dead do not praise The LORD, Nor do any who go into silence"!!!

Psalm 6:5 says: " for in death there is no mention of you; in the Grave who will laud you? "

2prexios:
Op, it is your fooly that matter the most. You read and choose your beliefs, you rely on the experience of others to conclude, you don't have any personal experience of your own but you have the final say? To prove the fooly of afterlife, die first, then come back alive with proof.

False Religion Have Fool you all ..... God said: "YOU are dust, and to dust YOU shall RETURN" Gen 3:19 !! The pronoun "YOU" is not just the flesh ... Its a whole being ! Supply d Noun and we will have " Adam is dust and to dust Adam shall return" !

" the living know that they will die, but as for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all" Ecc 9:5,10 !!!