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In 2009 Gaddafi Proposed Nationalizing Libya’s Oil Kurt Nimmo Infowars.com March 29, 2011 The Coalition of Globalists are not interested in sheltering the Libyan people from Muammar al- Gaddafi. The no-fly zone and attacks on the Libyan military by NATO and U.S. have nothing to do with democracy and free elections. It’s about oil – and who owns it. In 2009, Gaddafi uttered the “N” word – nationalization. Not only for Libya’s oil, but all oil in the region. For the globalists, this made Gaddafi a dangerous mad dog renegade who needed to be replaced. “The oil-exporting countries should opt for nationalization because of the rapid fall in oil prices. We must put the issue on the table and discuss it seriously,” he declared. “Oil should be owned by the State at this time, so we could better control prices by the increase or decrease in production.” Predictably, Gaddafi’s pronouncement set off alarm bells at Anglo-Dutch Shell, British Petroleum, ExxonMobil, Hess Corp., Marathon Oil, Occidental Petroleum and ConocoPhillips, the Spanish Repsol, Germany’s Wintershall, Austria’s OMV, Norway’s Statoil, Eni and Canada’s Petro Canada. The year before, the Libyan state oil company, National Oil, prepared a report on the subject in which officials suggested modifying the production-sharing agreements with foreign companies in order to increase state revenues, according to a report posted on the Pravda website. After implementing contract changes, Libya gained 5.4 billion dollars in oil revenues. Gaddafi’s plan was reported on by Reuters and the corporate media. In addition to calling for nationalization, the Libyan leader called for support of his proposal to dismantle the government and to distribute the oil wealth directly to Libya’s 5 million citizens. http://www.infowars.com/in-2009-gaddafi-proposed-nationalizing-libyas-oil/ |
sun of god Sun of god:so true, gaddafi's plan to nationalise libyan oil is what led to him becoming a marked man by the west. His plan was for the country's oil revenue to be much more evenly distributed among the people, however the elite in his country did not want this, this article sets in detail the reason why gadaffi went from being a favourable trading partner to public enemy no 1 in the eyes of the western oil companies and their govts : http://www.infowars.com/in-2009-gaddafi-proposed-nationalizing-libyas-oil/ |
oyb:or beggars as Fela used to call them |
Sun of god:totally agree - alarm bells had already started going off in the US about Gadaffi's plan to nationalise the libyan oil industry - he was intent on reducing oil supplies in order to push the price up as he felt libya was not getting a good deal, this article sets out very succinctly why the west want gadaffi out by any means necessary: In 2009, Gaddafi uttered the “N” word – nationalization. Not only for Libya’s oil, but all oil in the region. For the globalists, this made Gaddafi a dangerous mad dog renegade who needed to be replaced. |
@aguiyi - i agree bro - these vultures thought that libya was going to be an easy ride, now look at it, despite the devastating air bombardment and the CIA and SAS presence on the grounds they still cant seem to get these rebels to gain the upper hand. Gadaffi is indeed a hero for being able to hold his own in the face of such a devastating attack on his nation , the so called rebels (that we have since learnt are al qaeda operatives) are actually lynching black africans - a US investigative journalist couldnt help highlighting the irony of a black president and black UN ambassador giving support to a group of racist al qaeda operatives. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=id_vR9RswSs |
Je soul when someone points out that there is something wrong with a system which regards a person of european descent as superior but degrades and accords a position of inferiority to a person of african descent why do you see the person who speaks out against this as the enemy and not the actual inventor or creator of this system? Why is it okay for whites to have in place a system which condemns most blacks to the bottom of society by denying them equal access to education, decent housing, health care and access to equal justice? How is it that i am the one who has the problem because i speak of the injustice of white supremacy? I know you are a christian and you beleive in loving your enemies but historically as a race of people this attitude is what led to our downfall. It is because of our poor ability to distinguish between those who have our interest at heart and those who dont that we ended up enslaved and dehumanised. It is because of our childlike naivite and poor judgement skills that we are treated with contempt and scorn all around the world. Whites beleive that it is easy to manipulate us this is why till today they still abuse and exploit us even in our own countries. I wonder whetehr you are aware that the europeans used religion as a tool to deaden our minds and prevent us from rising up against them, it seems to have worked because it has kept many of us docile and unquestioning - dont you find it ironic that despite the fact that europeans brought christianity to africa, these noble christian values and ideals did not stop them from enslaving and dehumanising us and appropriating our land and resources. In the 19th century britain's trading relations with china were very much like europe and america's current trading relationship with africa - the british exploited and cheated the chinese because of their (britain's) military superiority, the chinese even referred to this period in their history as "china's century of humiliation" but notice how the chinese eventually woke up to throw off these shackles of oppression. we africans are still living through centuries of humiliation because not only are we exploited economically by the western powers but even on an individual level we are treated as a foolish race of people who are easy to trick and manipulate, nobody respects a people who can be easily fooled. Today many african people are still fast asleep thinking that we are all living in an equal world, what they dont realise is that racism or white supremacy has adapted and taken on a different form, whites unlike africans always think ahead, they want to remain masters of their own destiny and they know that they have to continue to deceive and manipulate black people in order to remain there, this is why nowadays racism is no longer the in your face jim crow racism where blacks were openly humiliated, now its taken on a different form - now what you have is subtle racism for example now you can marry or date interracially , you can shop and eat wherever you want, but - and this is a very big but, you still need to come to the white man for a job because he still controls the economic system, he still allocates the jobs, he still makes decisions about who gets what but because he can not openly discriminate he discriminates against you behind closed doors. in this day and age there are many places that you will go to where they have a policy against recruiting blacks, its not written down anywhere but the policy exists, all manner of excuses are used to justify this type of covert discrimination but the bottom line is whites do not want blacks to ever acheive equality with whites - that is the sad and bitter truth - as long as blacks live under an economic and political system controlled by whites we will remain second class citizens - by the way this applies to blacks living in africa as well. as you well know our african leaders sold out their own people a long time ago, even if you take our own country nigeria you can see that the real power brokers or people calling the shots in nigeria are foreigners ie the foreign investors who have bought up the nigerian public sector, the multinationals and the international financial institutions which loan money to the country, so if you look at the system holistically you can see that white supremacy is much bigger than a white person looking down on a black person but its about the wholesale appropriation of the wealth, resources and even manpower of entire nations. Therefore i think its now time for us to open our eyes and stop deceiving ourselves that we are living in an equal world where you have the odd white racist who doesnt like black people, no its bigger than that its about us as a people understanding and educating future generations to come that if we dont wake up and try and so something about our current economic and political powerlessness within a few decades we shall cease to exist as a people. so in a nutshell, rather than take the easy way out and label me a black supremacist, ask yourself why i think the way i do and then examine the reasons behind my thoughts, thanks. |
JeSoul:Je soul - why do you say that others are my enemies? |
DeeJay20:yes definitely, but its very dangerous to be caught moving around if you are a black african in libya now, my heart goes out to them, i hope they can find a way to escape without being caught by these criminals. thanks for posting lauren, a beautiful woman with an equally beautiful voice. |
they seem to make up for their poor fighting skills by lynching black africans though: https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-636004.99999.html |
^^^ by the way glad you liked the video - i always follow dr tarpley's commentary on libya - he always knows what he's talking about |
^^^^ pleep its not the black guy in the foreground, its the guy in the background, heres another clip of him: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30x2qHIBlrk |
morpheus24:sigh - its rather pedestrian of you to think that sociopaths have physically recognisable traits - its a lot more complex than that my friend, however i will say this, there are certain character traits that give them away, based on the debates that i have had with you and your responses, it is clear to me that you exhibit many of these character traits. |
ADDIS ABABA — While much of the world’s attention is focusing on crude oil prices and the Libyan pipelines in the east of the country– human right groups say rebels are committing crimes against humanity.http://somalilandpress.com/libya-rebels-execute-black-immigrants-while-forces-kidnap-others-20586 So these are the people Obama has intervened to protect from Gadaffi - i hope and pray that this will be Obama's last term in office. the story is verified further, here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=id_vR9RswSs&feature=channel_video_title |
just to add debosky how come sarkozy isnt going haywire over the massacre of civillians that is currently taking place in ivory coast as we speak? let me see - cocoa is not worth getting worked up over? and phantom23 you are 100% spot on, here in the UK - an overwhelming 7 out of 10 people oppose the UK's involvement in libya. also it turns out that these "rebels" are actually genocidal racist al qaeda operatives who have been on MI6 payroll since the 90s, back in 1996 they attempted to assassinate Gadaffi. here is american historian webster tarpley giving a brief summary of who these rebels are, where they come from, and also the fact that they have been massacring black african libyans and other black africans, he goes on to make the interesting point that many black libyans are from gadaffi's tribe and if the rebels succeed in overrunning western libya there will be a bloodbath of black libyans presided over as he puts it by a black american president and a black UN ambassador (susan rice): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=id_vR9RswSs&feature=channel_video_title |
^^^^^^^^^^ ![]() bro you know him so well, look up the character traits of a sociopath - he ticks most of the boxes |
^^^ no i havent but nothing suprises me about US/nigerian relations anymore the US govt have a naval fleet which patrols the gulf of guinea so im sure it will be easy for them to deploy troops to intervene in nigeria should violence erupt after the elections. http://guineaoye./2011/01/08/us-africa-command-and-gulf-of-guinea-militarization-of-energy-policy/ |
debosky:im sorry but trying a civillian by way of a military tribunal and not in a criminal court before a jury of his peers IS NOT a legitimate legal process , thats why his execution was deemed extra judicial - something the british govt were well aware of but chose to ignore, the same british govt who we are now being told wish to protect the lives of libyan civillians from a supposedly deranged dictator. what is the difference between an extra judicial killing and alleged summary exeuctions? The British did not interfere in this process in the same way they don't interfere with convictions in other countries where they don't think justice has been done. Besides, sanctions were imposed on Nigeria - they didn't just 'look away'.The fact of the matter is that this was not some random isolated miscarriage of justice case, this case involved one of their biggest and most powerful multinationals the british govt were being briefed regularly on this case but at the crucial moment when they could have stopped saro wiwa's execution they simply looked the other way. by the way economic Sanctions have also been imposed on libya why the need to go even further with this military intervention? after all the UN charter states that member states are not supposed to launch unprovoked military attacks on fellow member states. Let’s not distract from the issue at hand here - Biafra was a civil war precipitated by tribal/religious killings, not by a dictator intending to repress all its citizens to retain control and carrying out routine killing of any opposition. This is not the case in Libya.in the case of the events which led up to the biafran civil war - unarmed igbo civillians were being massacred by northerners with the complicity of the state apparatus, the state had therefore failed in its duty to protect the safety of its own citizens and yet the british never intervened, now in the case of libya ARMED REBELS attempt to overthrow their own govt and the british scramble to protect them - can you not see that the position that the UK govt has taken is breathtaking in its hypocrisy? I do not know of cases in Nigeria where 1,200 political prisoners have been killed in one go simply because of their opposition to the government. I don’t know cases where mercenaries and snipers are sent into Nigerian cities to pick off civilians whose only crime was to say ‘we don’t want you as leader’.first of all the story about gadaffi shooting at unarmed protesters has never been corroborated with evidence, infact it has since been denied by the russian military, also i dont know where you are getting that figure of 1,200 from, as far as im aware the death toll in libya before the military invasion by the west was not in the thousands. also the fact that you are not aware of the number of political prisoners that have died in nigerian prisons does not mean that they do not run in the thousands. obasanjo instructed his troops to drop bombs on unarmed civillians in odi and gbamaratu resulting in the loss of hundreds of lives, why didnt the UK govt intervene and impose a no fly zone over that area? Again you are distracting from the issue at hand - if you want to debate civilians being killed worldwide regardless of motive/aim, do that on a separate thread. The US intent is not to kill unarmed civilians but to attack armed insurgents intent on killing others or engaging in acts of terror. This is again different from Ghaddafi who has killed thousands of innocent civilians for the sole purpose of retaining control against the people’s will.Gadaffi has not been killing unarmed civillians he is merely defending his regime from overthrow by a group of armed rebels. The Ghaddafi regime is not legitimate - it is unelected and was never chosen by the Libyan people. Ghaddafi has sent snipers, mercenaries and others to kill innocent civilians and shelled hospitals. Those acts were not directed at ‘rebels’.ive discussed this with you already, gadaffi's govt is legitimate - he came to power through a people's revolution and he has had the backing of his people for 4 decades - if that isnt legitimacy i dont know what is, by the same token the saudi and bahraini monarchy's should also be deemed illegimate given that they too are unelected, autocratic in nature and have been around for even longer than gaddaffi's regime. This is the KEY difference between Libya and the other middle eastern ‘protests’ - those countries removed their elected leaders by popular revolt, without being attacked by their own government, while Ghaddafi has chosen to kill his own people simply to retain power.saudi protesters who attempted to revolt were shot and killed by their police, in bahrain protesters were even being shot and killed by saudi police at point blank range: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/16/bahrain-protester-shot-video_n_836468.html In yemen protesters were also shot and killed in the streets by their police - has US/UK intervened or threatened sanctions or no fly zones over those countries? |
debosky:Ken Saro Wiwa was tried by way of a military tribunal - an indpendent observer had this to say about the proceedings: A Report into Saro-Wiwa’s trial written by leading British counsel, Michael Birnbaum QC,and yet shell and the british govt were quite happy to look the other way while he was sentenced to death and executed by this kangaroo court Gadaffi has not killed anywhere near the number of people that successive nigerian govts have killed - have you forgotten the biafran war ? whose side did the british govt arm and protect? - igbos who were being massacred in their thousands in the north or the northerners who colluded with them to appropriate the oil reserves. also isnt it hypocritical for the US to accuse gadaffi of killing armed rebels who are trying to overthrow his govt when they are in iraq, afghanistan and pakistan using drones to kill unarmed civillians? by the way gaddafis' threats were directed at the rebels and not the entire city of benghazi, if you are guilty of trying to overthrow a legitimate govt the penalty is usually death. how many coup plotters do you know of in nigeria who have ever been spared execution ? |
^^^^ you're right she has, everything they are doing in the middle east was planned years in advance. even one of their retired general's confirms this here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8H6RomGjJM&feature=related if they've predicted the breakup of nigeria then i think they've probably got something planned . |
debosky i take it then that you beleive that the intervention was done on humanitarian grounds? if this is the case - can you explain why in 1999 shell preferred to call in govt troops to shoot and kill unarmed ogoni protesters - how come shell and the UK govt were not interested in protecting the lives of civillians in that instance? why were the govt troops who were responsible for killing, raping and maiming civillians in ogoni on shell's payroll? also why did the british govt not intervene to stop the extra judicial execution of ken saro wiwa by the abacha regime? |
Bastage:Your statement above doesnt even make sense - if i am exposing the hypocrisy of the US/UK foreign policy with regard to its dealings with Libya - does that mean that i am protecting an authoritarian regime? If i am saying that it is illegal to committ an act of war against a sovereign state without provocation - does that mean that i am protecting an authoritarian regime? If i am saying it is hypocritical for the US/UK govt to use humanitarianism as an excuse for intervention in Libya and in the same breath fail to intervene in bahrain or yemen in similar circumstances - does that mean i am protecting an authoritarian regime? If i am highlighting the hypocrisy of the London School of Economics for accepting millions of dollars in donations from Gadaffi's son - does that mean i am protecting an authoritarian regime? by the way Gadaffi's regime is not the only authoritarian regime in the middle east - saudi arabia is one of the most autocratic arab nations, should we not be intervening there as well? the Nigerian govt is also one of the most repressive regimes in the world - has the US ever come to the defence of the oppressed masses in nigeria? Who is responsible for recommending all those austerity measures that have left the average nigerian wallowing in a state of abject poverty? Who is responsible for recommending that the nigerian govt cut public expenditure, devalue its currency and focus more on selling off its public services to foreign investors, who is responsible for recommending that nigeria spend more of its revenue on paying off the interest on its IMF loans than on education or health care ? No. You are conquered. Conquered by ignorance, stupidity and racism. Don't use the word "We". The majority of us are nothing like you.do free people use the language of their colonial master as their OFFICIAL language or do they use their own indigenous languages ? do free people model their economic policies in accordance with the washington/whitehall consensus or do they create policies which benefit their people and their economies? do free people imbibe and mimic the religious beleif systems of their conquerors or do they practice their own indigenous belief systems, The problem with you is that not only are you a fool but you are a comatose fool, you are in such an advanced state of denial that any attempt to revive you is about as productive as trying to have a conversation with a corpse, furthermore you are what the nigerian academic chinweizu ibekwe describes as a niggerized african - here is how he describes people like you: The Nigger is the African mangled by white power, a peculiar travesty produced by centuries of European imperialism and Arab hegemony. And alas! after more than a century of being completely in the dungeons of White Power, all of us Africans today have become Niggers.http://www.africawithin.com/chinweizu/reparations.htm So my dear niggerized african zombie keep deceiving yourself, remain in your dream world because you are serving no useful purpose in the real world. |
^^^^^ no its because my fist keeps crashing into your bloated aging body |
^^^^ so true |
^^^^ to be honest im getting tired of hitting you - sad old dinosaur ![]() |
by the way i thought it was only 12 year old boys who quote lines from hollywood blockbusters - oh i forgot your iq is the equivalent of a 12 year old boy - oops ![]() |
^^^^^^ old boy you talk a lot about stating the obvious but funnily enough THATS ALL YOU DO YOURSELF - do i smell hypocrisy here? not once, not once have i ever heard you EVER come out with ANYTHING REMOTELY ORIGINAL, CREATIVE, IMAGINATIVE OR INSPIRATONAL NOT ONCE - FOR AN OLD BLOKE YOU SURE ARE FULL OF HOT AIR. ALL YOU EVER DO IS POUR SCORN ON ANYTHING THAT YOU BELEIVE CONFLICTS WITH YOUR BITTER, JAUNDICED, CYNICAL, TOXIC, SOCIOPATHIC WORLD VIEW - did your girlfriend/boyfriend ditch you for someone better? |
morpheus24:my message is not aimed at the technocrats you old fool, the technocrats are the elite who have a vested interest in retaining the status quo, no my message is aimed at the young people and this is not the only medium that i use to reach them, hahahah its not aimed at bitter old men like you - no, your old brain is already contaminated with too much misinformation, its for the young kids - the future, lets face it morpheus you are definitely not the future - your an old embittered dinosaur , your days are numbered, nobody gives a damn about you or your pathetic self hating diatribes. not tooting my horn or anything but i do a lot of voluntary work in the community and i know the positive impact i have made in the lives of many young kids. im sure no-one even cares about or acknowledges you or your opinions this explains why you have to log on to NL every day to get your daily dose of self affirmation - how sad. |
morpheus24:got every right to be here man AND i also have every right to criticise the system - those are the perks of living in a reasonably free society - does it hurt you that im not trapped in naija with you - shuffering and shmiling? |
Not really - just in case you didnt notice - we are a conquered people, still under the control of our former colonial masters, nothing hypocritical about that, thats just reality or is reality something you prefer not to deal with? oh and by the way stop referring to yourself in the third person thats something that only people who matter should do not nobodies like you. |
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