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sun of god - very interesting and informative video, everything ms oruh said is frighteningly true and we are still fast asleep lulled into a sense of false security.

Yes, but it has to first of all cast off the shackles of neo colonialism that it is currently under.

There is no way nigeria can develop its economy when its spending more on debt repayment to the IMF than what its spending on building infrastructure, investing in education or health, we need a leader who can take a stand on this modern day slavery that we are being subjected to and say NO to illegal debt repayment, we need a leader with courage and foresight - a nationalist who can rise above petty tribalism and focus on a national programme of economic reconstruction.

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you're so right mandingo -  here is a clip of a white american guy expressing his anger over the current economic crisis in america:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-sbqLGDqRc&feature=email

i dont agree with everything he says on the clip but an awful lot of what he is saying is true.

I think obama has seriously let down so many people and i really do feel bad because so many black people were hoodwinked by his charm, now many black people are waking up to the reality that Obama is just another  puppet of the global white supremacist machine.

they are obviously on standby to see the outcome of these upcoming elections - they want to make sure that their lackey Goodluck Jonathan wins by any means necessary and if he doesnt - they will do whatever it takes to assist him into office , make no mistake - these people will stop at nothing to ensure that they get their way - if you doubt it look at ivory coast, an unwanted puppet has now been forced on the ivorien people so now lets see if the US will get their way by imposing an unwanted puppet on the nigerian people.

corruption is not nigeria's one and only enemy but if anyone is willing to take a stand against corruption that will get my vote any day, one thing i know is that i cant even bear the thought of GEJ and his cronies ever getting any where near the corridors of power, this is how much i hate them, i beleive that Buhari is the only option open to nigerians at this point in time, if we want to move forward as a nation, this is our only option. 

The enemies of progress will continue to paint buhari as an islamic fundamentalist but to be honest with you i would rather an islamic fundamentalist who refuses to adopt a pro IMF neo liberal economic policy for nigeria than a pro western lap dog like jonathan that will hand over what ever is left of our economic and political sovereignty to the west, given buhari's track record with the IMF i am willing to take the gamble with him rather than the fraud and imposter aka Goodluck Jonathan who has been positioned by america and britain to destroy the future of the nigerian people.

if you want to remain in perpetual bondage to the IMF and the World bank vote GEJ.

if you want to remain unemployed, hungry and miserable vote GEJ.

if you want your children to end up as armed robbers or prostitutes - vote GEJ.

if you want nigeria to end up as a colony of america/britain with a brutal and repressive state apparatus - vote GEJ.

GEJ is a puppet of the american neo liberal vultures who are currently circling nigeria and moving in for the kill, they cant wait to sink their talons into nigeria in order to condemn you to a life of perpetual slavery, GEJ is an agent of neo colonialism - he has neither the intelligence, courage or conviction to lead nigeria on to the path of self determination - do not waste your vote on him.

Nigeria is definitely a colony of europe - why?

go and research Shell's activities in nigeria since 1958, while you are at it find out who owns shell and how close they are to the british govt.

also research the role the british govt played in ensuring that the  "right" northerners would forever remain in control of nigeria's natural resources.  Notice i said "right" northerners  -  murtala muhammed and buhari were regarded as the wrong northeners because of murtala's desire to nationalise the entire  nigerian oil industry and buhari's desire to have nothing to do with the IMF slavery debt scam which america is using to recolonise african nations through the back door.

Babangida on the other hand was regarded as a good northerner because he acceptd the dictates of the IMF and world bank and agreed to open up nigeria so that the western multinationals could buy up the entire nigerian public sector at basement bargain prices and at the same time create mass unemployment, misery and suffering.

i am not a tribalist and therefore i am quite happy for a competent northerner to take up the reins of power provided he is competent, but for some strange reason -the west seems to endorse incompetent nigerian leaders whether they are from the north or south, im sure there are many competent northern leaders who are quite capable of leading nigeria out of this terrible situation we are in but will they be given the chance to get to the prime position?  Jonathan is weak, incompetent and above all corrupt - he is the candidate that america and britain are endorsing - that shoudl tell you that they do not have our interest at heart.

i know that the west is afraid of a nationalist movement emerging in nigeria, therefore they continue to sow the seeds of tribalism and encourage us to keep fighting amongst ourselves - DIVIDE AND CONQUER IS STILL VERY MUCH THE TACTIC USED BY THE WHITE MAN TO KEEP US DIVIDED AND WEAK, that way we will never be a threat to them.


google the british national archives and see if you can locate documents detailing the role the british played in the 1959 parliamentary elections in nigeria.

please note that some of these documents remain classified until 2057 - so your search may end somewhat abruptly but i beleive that when you get some of this information, the pieces of the jigsaw will start to fall into place.

Its up to us to change our destiny, the west want us to fail - that is their agenda, look at ivory coast - the french have succeeded in forcing an unwanted IMF puppet on the Ivorien people, lets not fall victim to the same tricks of these satanic people - their ultimate goal is to keep us enslaved so that they can continue to steal our natural resources in complicity with their puppet collaborators, its time for us  to show them that we will no longer tolerate them treating us as slaves.

Muammar Gaddaffi is now under an illegal attack from the west for the simple reason that he refused to keep selling oil to them at rock bottom prices, only when he insisted on nationalising his nations oil industry in order to eexert more control over oil prices and allow for a more equitable distribution of oil revenue amongst the libyan peopel did the west declare an all out invasion on his nation -the western govts are run by a satanic cabal they are only interested in making money at all costs - they are not interested in democracy, equity or justice, they do not even regard african people as fully human.

cdoffx:
Cap28 & Morpheus24 putting it in Morpheus words you both understand the American policy of imperialism,destabilising & exploitation & both see it as harmful &unforgivable since non of you condone it but the only difference i see is that while Morpheus sees no reason why this should be an issues Cap is on the contrary.Clear. Now Morpheus28 lets look at this scenario. You've a brother who is being talked into a contract that will be detrimental to him. Won't you enlighten him on the detriments? Perhaps yes? But its left for your brother to see your point or not. Now your brother has a son(your nephew) who will mostly be affected by the contract. Won't you do all your best possible to enlighten your nephew so as to avert this contract? I leave that for you to answer. That is exactly what Cap28 is doing. Your brother in this scenario is the shortsighted African leaders that don't think of coming generations but their immediate benefits, all they need to enter any agreement is see if it has any benefit for them not minding the effect on their land, your nephew is the innocent African people who're directly and grossly affected by the foolishness of their leaders. So is Cap wrong for trying to enlighten his brothers over an impending danger? I'm not saying its okay for any leader to kill &infringe on the right of his people but why must we give chance to some people to take advantage of our problems to add more problems to our lives,why must some people take advantage of us? That is just what i'm against,Cap28 is against and many more.
Cap28 do you remember my comment on your post;Real Reason for Libya Invasion, that is just the way out. God bless Africa.

bro i liked the analogy you used, yes you are right, that is all im trying to do - alert our people as to the reality of the world we live in today, knowledge is power, it is soo important that up coming generations of young african people understand what they are up against in this world.

It isnt enough in this world today as an african to have an education - you also have to have an indepth understanding of the world you live in, dont forget that our edcuation is tailored according to western standards - the idea is to make us followers not leaders, the western system of education is whitewashed - the whites are taught and trained to be leaders not followers - the negative chapters of their history (slavery, colonialism) are air brushed out and they are brainwashed into beleiving that they were ordained by god to rule the world.

Why shoudl we as a people accept a position of inferiority foisted upon us since the days of slavery, why shoudl we bow down and accept that its okay for western multinationals and international financial organisations to come in and hijack our economies - why should we keep quiet when the western imperialists decide that they want to recolonise the entire continent using AFRICOM?

bro, ill respond to your other comment now, thanks.

cute couple.

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why do you say that?

morpheus24:
Nope. Not playing your game.

Ask a specific question on a specific issue concerning sub prime loans in reference to Securities companies i.e Goldmach sachs. Mechanics, causes and effects, bank regulations,

Thats an analysis.

so mr economist/political scientist if you were on tv or in front of a class of students and you were asked to explain how goldman sachs defrauded millions of homeowners by knowingly selling them junk mortgages you would respond by saying nope - ask me a question on a topic that i have just finished cramming into my head that way i can pretend as if i know what the hell im talking about.

you have been outed on NL as a fraud and an imposter - now be gone - economist ko rent boy ni.

morpheus24:
Hmmm? let me guess. The white's still control the economics of the country. This is besides the fact that there are only rougly 5 million of them that live there and the government is practically in the hands of the locals. Mabybe it could be due to mismanagment of govt funds, poor service delivery culture or a lack of the ability to run a government institution properly withoug nepostistic tendencies.

is that your answer or are you just guessing? when you say the govt is practically  in the hands of the locals - what do you mean?  can you tell me how much of the south african economy that is under black control and how much is under white control?

Just because you were on the streets screaming "imshinuwa" or on exile in some foreign country sending communiques to the underground resistance, doesn't qualify you to run any government

by this do you mean blacks should have settled for white apartheid minority rule where they would have  remained slaves in their own land?

by the way what the hell are you doing in such a place, oh let me guess, your own country is a complete cesspit.

The objective is not to prove so you vett and qualify me for anyting. The objective is to present the information without bias and leave the people to discern what makes sense and what doesn't.

no the point IS that you prove to me that you have an indepth understanding of the socio economic situation in south africa - aside from a few anodyne statements about blacks in south africa being incompetent you are yet to prove to me with detailed empirical evidence that you understand anything about south africa, its people or its economy.

Remember the analogy of Elijah muhammed's' " dirty glass vs clean glass of water" metaphor.

And I thought you were an expert on the NOI

Looks like you're losing it mate, the other day you were criticising the NOI and farrakhan for being pseudo religious black supremacist fanatics - today you're actually quoting the organisation's founder  - what next? conversion- is it me or are you one extremely confused individual.

morpheus24:
ha ha. i figured you were going to say that.

Ask the right question. Thats too general? Be more specific

Do you want to discuss the mechanics of the process?

How fair lending legislation contributed to the manipulation by banking and investment institutions?

or maybe the fact of how deregulation via the Gramm-leach Bliley act was the impetus that empowered Investment firms to bundle mortgages in CDO( collateral debt obligations to be sold in investment vehicles

Or maybe the ability for these same investment companies i.e. Goldmach sachs to slip through regulations that required liquidity ratios in terms of capitilization required to meet short term obligations.

Come on be more specific. I am debating with an expert here.

how much more specific do you want me to be? - i am asking you for the umpteenth time to analyse in plain english how goldman sachs succeeded in defrauding millions of american homeowners by selling them subprime mortgages with vastly inflated interest rates - look forward to hearing from you , thanks

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HELLO HELLO MORPHEUS DO YOU READ ME?? ARE YOU STILL BREATHING?? I AM STILL AWAITING YOUR ANALYSIS OF THE GOLDMAN SACHS SUB PRIME MORTGAGE DEBACLE, OVER AND OUT.

morpheus24:
As regards liar loans you are trying to make us all so flabagasted about . Here's an excerpt for more incite. The warnings were expressed long before you came on nairaland.

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/04032009/profile.html

From the great depression in the 30's to the S&L debacle in the 80's to accounting scandals in the early 2000's to the Bank bail outs in the late 200's. its all a cyclical process that repeats itself over and over and again with shorter and shorter time gaps in between.

Yelling and screaming about conspiracy theories and pointing fingers is again engaging in sentimentalities. Defining and analyzing the real issues offers real empowerment.


Morpheus says " I can show you the door way but it is you that has to open it"

WHY ARE YOU POSTING OTHER PEOPLE'S OPINIONS - I THOUGHT YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO BE AN AUTHORITY ON ECONOMICS /POLITICAL SCIENCE - please for a change can i have your own well thought out analysis on goldman sachs involvement in the sub prime mortgage scam in america - thank you

morpheus24:
You do, otherwise stop talking about stuff you don't fully research.

okay prof, what was the story on goldman sachs and the sub prime mortgage scandal in america?

Actually I am and I do. MR RSA can attest to that if you doubt it or you may run a random search through my posts.

You are what ? listen mate ive got better things to do than run thru your posts okay, now tell me something mr economist/political scientist why areblack south africans still without adequate housing, employment and access to education 17 years after apartheid ended?

Told yah I was a jack of all trades,

being a jack of all trades does not equate to being knowledgeable on a given topic, it just means you have your fingers in too many pots, expertise and indepth knowledge and understanding is the true determinanant - do you have it, if so explain in detail the reasons why the south african govt has failed to  address the ongoing problems with poverty amongst blacks in south africa.

To answer that. No it doesn't actually. Being on ground actually does. Satisfied.

being on ground means nothing, you could be a drug dealer, male pro.stitute or a bouncer in a night club in south africa for all i know - im not there with you am i?,  no my dear friend being "on ground" is not enough you have to actually have some understanding of the political and economic matters pertaining to the country , something you are yet to prove to me.

morpheus24:
Ah a sparring program. Very well then!

Since you have become an expert on South African politics and economic affairs other than shouting at bank executives and multinational companies

What solutions are necessary for South Africa to distribute its resources equitably among its people?

What problems are aggravating these solutions?

On what economic platform should it engage the world or should it not engage the world at all?

Please none of that chase the white man out thingy!

That's elementary.

Never said i was an expert on south african economics or politics, infact i didnt know i had to be in order to highlight the fact that goldman sachs caused millions of american homeowners to loose their homes because of their fraudulent selling of sub prime mortgages.

Are  you an economist or political scientist? do you know something about the inner workings of the south african economy that we dont know, are you privy to any south african technocrats and members of the south african govt?

or does posting a CNN clip with a goldman sachs shill mouthing off, qualify you as an authority on south africa's economy?


do tell, i await with bated breath

morpheus24:
let me show you how much silly assumptions are?

1. I am not in Nigeria (at the moment!)

2. I am guessing your search and rediscovery is still going on since you haven't rid yourself of the "eurocentric' comforts. I recall some one saying in a past response that "they deserved to be where they were". Hmmm I am wondering on what grounds. What show of "africaness is this?

Still  playing the town crier role are yah? let me guess this is the 21st century, requires a new methodology huh?

At least Fela rid himself both "physically" and "mentally" of his colonial master's grip. He came back home to come and chop eba and egusi soup with his compadres.

Some are still eating "Donner kebabs" and spotted D.I.C.K in their flats I am guessing?

Laughable when trying to make sense out of nonsense.


Morpheus says: Come on stop trying to hit me and hit me!

oh boy are you trying to tell us something "eating spotted D.I.C.K" na wah !!!

morpheus24:
Hey RSA. See the link. even before the interview been telling you this but you guys just can't analyze trends. You are stuck on sentiments.

Some brilliance you guys display!

Intelligence always trumps sentimentality!

http://edition.cnn.com/video/#/video/international/2011/04/04/mpa.jim.oneil.s.africa.ready.cnn

hahaha - the supposed font of knowledge posts a link of a goldman sachs asset manager  doling out economic advice to south africa - why would any nation in their right mind take economic advice from a bank that made billions of dollars from scamming millions of american homeowners into buying sub prime worthless mortgages with vastly inflated interest rates.

morpheus24:
Oh boy! regurgitation time again. Sorry to dissappoint you but UNDERSTOOD quite clearly what he was talking about. You simply can't grasp the inference and unfortunately can't see past your own limitations. Thats why you are too easy . Challenge your mind a little more will ya. Filling your head with conspiracy theories allows for a one track mind.

The "us" against "them"

MORPHEUS SAYS: Don't try to bend the spoon--that's impossible. Instead, try to realize the truth."
                            "What truth?" Cap28 asks.
                            "There is no spoon. Then you will see it is not the SPOON that bends, it is only yourself."

I will show you just how much you failed to grasp the meaning of that clip you posted.

In the clip Fela himself actually confirms that it was only when he went to england that he began to realise that he was an african because of the racism he faced as a student, he goes on to say that it was at that point he began the journey to rediscover his africanness - this should therefore indicate to you that location is irrelevant in determining a person's search for identity, you are in africa but for all intents and purposes you might as well be in switzerland, you do not even think you are an african- in a desperate bid to be accepted by the very people who enslaved your ancestors you genuflect at the alter of eurocentricity, i pity you.

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i like asswhupping this fool it keeps my blood pumping

morpheus24:
Some people who are stuck in England in their 500sq feet flats are victims of what Fela refered to as "Kolo mentality". The have the audacity to talk about suffering and smiling 3000 miles away from home

They can't tell the difference between "thinking" they know and "knowing" they know


Morpheus says "FREE YOUR MIND"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usnznJZ0XvA

Sorry mate you obviously didnt understand what fela was talking about in that clip you pasted, kolomentality refers to a state of mind and not where you are located - this is why he talks about the adverse effect that eurocentric education has and still has on africans, you are a prime example of kolomentality because despite being in nigeria you still show no sense of allegiance for your own people, you jump to the defence of the white colonialists and neo colonialists that were and remain responsible for keeping africa in a permanent state of regression and you show no sympathy for the suffering and misery of your own people.  Fela was referring to people like you who acquire a eurocentric education (which was designed to enslave you mentally) and then turn around and start looking down on your own people, perhaps you might want to start by freeing your own mind before doling out unwanted advice.

sun of god thanks for posting. 

now lets see what happens in nigeria if the "wrong person" wins the elections.

makbo i agree - african nations are now fair game and have lost all claim to their soveriegnty and i think nigerians should brace themselves as nigeria may be next on the takeover list if US puppet GEJ doesnt win.

mandingo, the average nigerian lives in a fantasy world where they pretend as if the poverty, abuse of power, and grim misery of everyday life doesnt affect them - fela referred to them as people who suffer and smile.

cdoffx:
Do you guys think we people could not just form a congress here,become a strong mouthpiece for the African people. It starts somewhere

very good idea, the first step though is to get our people in the right mindset - re-education is key.

a very interesting commentary by a jewish man on the zionist plan for africa:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ItUox4CQpU&NR=1

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unfortunately gadaffi was the only african leader with the courage to challenge the west - the rest (with the exception of mugabe) are a bunch of paid up pros.titutes, so i wouldnt expect much from them.

pdp are up to their dirty tricks again, i can smell it, but they will not win , they can keep playing games but the game is up for them, if they think they are brave let them carry on down this road - .

these so called nollywood actors are an embarrassment not only for their pathetic amateurish acting skills but for the fact that they are completely devoid of any sense of morality, with all the suffering that nigerians are being subjected to at the hands of pdp these clowns still felt it right to endorse this criminal and his goons- , i hope all of them go to hell in a handbasket. I think the biggest mistake buhari made when he took power in 1984 was not lining up those second republic looters against a wall and putting a bullet into their empty heads, i think that would have served as a warning to any incoming polticians.

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may god bless you for downloading this - i completely take my hat off to that woman for having the courage to mention lockerbie - a british politician by the name of Tam Dalyell exposed the lie and injustice that was done to libya by setting them up to take the rap, there is evidence that this was actually carreid out by a palestinian terrorist organisation on behalf of iran  as revenge for america''s downing of an iranian passenger plane in 1988.

Here is saif al gaddaffi explaining why they paid compensation to the victims (from 3:00):


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXH7mIRfS3s&feature=related

here is what former british MP Tam Dalyell had to say about libya's invovlement in lockerbie  in 2008 :

"If I thought there was any scintilla of possibility that he was guilty of mass murder, I might agree with Ruth Cohen, the intransigent American relative, who says she has no pity. But the American relatives, intent on vengeance, should understand that the United States scapegoated Libya, a country which had nothing whatever to do with the Lockerbie crime, at a time when they wanted to blame someone, small and unpopular, in order not to have trouble with Iran and Syria, who harboured the real perpetrators, before the planned invasion of Iraq," Dalyell wrote.

http://english.ohmynews.com/articleview/article_view.asp?article_class=3&no=383965&rel_no=1