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arukwe123:
still waiting for your reply to my post

Reply a post you added Sevilla and real Sociedad with 1 and 2 league titles?

Odunharry:
Lol. Uruguay and Colombia are small teams??

Messi didn't score against both teams.

Odunharry:
People dey downgrade Messi though..

He downgraded himself when he started disappearing against the top teams.

Kilishihunter:
Leave am jare, most people just think quality football starts and end in England,
Me that has watched Basque derbies, Sevilla vs Valencia, Huesca vs Granada, even the recently concluded segunda B promotion playoffs before the euros, Thank God he didn't quote me

I also witnessed world war 1 to 3 and invented electricity.

arukwe123:
when last did Arsenal, Manutd win their league?

Arsenal 14league titles, United 20league titles. No explanation needed. Now provide Sevilla, Bilbao, Real Sociedad, Villarreal, Valencia own let's see the so called top teams?

arukwe123:
of course. Top teams in their league.

So now explain how Villarreal is a top team?

Jodera:
And who told you bringing an opposing view don't involve asking questions?

Like I said, you are just playing smart by dodging

It doesn't with me. You don't ask me irrelevant question. When you have a point you say it and not asking questions.

arukwe123:
i am not a barca fan and you didn't shut me down. You are just twisting argument.
The image above are top teams in Spain according to Google search. So list the top teams in England

Sevilla, Bilbao, Real Sociedad, Villarreal, Valencia top clubs in la Liga how? ....when last did those teams win your league?

Jodera:
it's not irrelevant. You know you answering the question will prove the guy right that most of those teams he called are actually top teams thus proving your claim wrong.

The only way not to fall for your trap is to dodge it. Smart you!!

There is no dodging here. When you want to counter an argument you bring up your opposing view which you didn't bring but preceded to ask me an irrelevant question.

Jodera:
it's not irrelevant.
I asked you about top teams in England, since you've given top teams in Spain. Thought we were talking about Kane and messi here.

Isn't it the leagues both the players are representing?

You asked an irrelevant question. A Barca fan make a ridiculous comment trying to paint Villarreal, Sociedad etc as big teams so I shut him down. I am making my case against Messi so it's your perogative to make your own case against Kane not asking me jamb question.

La liga focuses more on skills and technique

This Gentleman must think la Liga is made up of only Barca.

Jodera:
lol... See twisting.

So when you called top teams in Spain, you didn't know that Google exists then.

You for answer na make I drag you for inside mud

You asked me an irrelevant question when talking about la Liga top teams yet am the one twisting? Make it make sense

Jodera:
name me the top teams in England please?

Is something wrong with your Google?

Where was that Guy saying Kane didn't win PFA so why Balon dor? Guess what Messi didn't even win Barca player of the year. Bite yourself in the ass

Jodera:
athletico not a top team in la liga is you not being sincere.

Please, oblige me this abeg.
How many top teams are in England presently?

The only top teams in la Liga are Barca and Madrid. Athletico are best of the rest. Nothing insincere about stating the obvious.

arukwe123:
who is this one. Did you read what i just posted and why did you omit Sevilla, Bilbao

Sevilla, Bilbao, Real Sociedad, Villarreal, Valencia top clubs in la Liga how? ....when last did those teams win your league?

popizaino:
Copa America is tough.......forget the fact that Brazil and Argentina lived up to their standard by reaching the finals,they know what they went through before getting there. You cant watch any match in copa America for 2 straight minutes without the ref blowing for a foul and that tells you something about the competition itself.

There is nothing tough about the Copa America. So your definition of tough is blowing of fouls lmao

arukwe123:
are we talking of their history or current form. If its about history, Messi has been scoring tons of goals against both Madrid teams. Villareal are Europa Champions while Sociedad came 5th last season in Laliga

In what era and century has Villarreal and Sociedad been a top club? Even the Valencia you are typing when last where they relevant? The only top clubs in la liga Messi failed against them last season.

arukwe123:
are these not top teams in Laliga?

List the top teams in la Liga? Real Sociedad, Villarreal a top team in what century?

Jodera:
Leave them. They'll be quick to tell you how Kane scored against Leicester, Everton and Chelsea but will discredit messi for scoring against Valencia, sevilla and other top Spanish teams.

The only top teams in la Liga are Barca and Madrid with Athletico struggling to meet up. Messi didn't score against any top team last season in la Liga.

arukwe123:
leave the penaldog. He is just an hater. Someone that scored against Sevilla, Valencia, Bilbao, Villareal, Sociedad

Valencia, Sociedad? are those clubs you listed on equal footing with Barca? No shame at all.

Valencia wage per year £44,122,000... Messi 100million. Real Sociedad wage per year £39,499,200..... Messi 100million. We should be applauding Messi for scoring against teams he earn more than all their players combined?

Jodera:
messi didn't score against eibar.

1..More so, aside both Madrid, which other big Spanish team didn't he score?
2.. Messi scored against PSG, so I don't know what you're talking. Juventus is in group stage which necessarily isn't important cos he qualified from the group.

Your fraud basis has been proven wrong abeg.

So answer the question, what did Kane do at Tottenham?

Messi against both Madrid clubs....0 goal 0 assist infact he hasn't scored against Madrid in more than 5matches straight. 8matches against the top teams last season.....0 man of the match. You mean he can only perform against Huscea and them Eibar with Elche?

Jodera:
Lol... My own be say, make messi win copa. Him over deserve am.

Most people here thinks football starts and end with England and Euros. People wey no dey watch copa America naim go put Kane and messi for same levels

Copa America? A tournament where everybody predicated Argentina and Brazil to make the final before a ball was even kicked. What's so special about Copa America with Ecuador, Peru and their likes?

Jodera:
No if he did that, he'll definitely be were Tottenham finished and starts getting disgraced in UEL like Kane by Askgredssrssaxy

Messi can never stoop dat low

He can only stoop low to bully Huscea and Elche then proceed to disappear against the big teams.

Jodera:
Point out the facts let's hear please? I'll be patiently waiting.

Is there any double points accrued for scoring against Madrid and PSG that I didn't know of? Please enlighten me

A definition of a fraud is when you don't score against big teams? Wandaful

What did Messi do with a billion dollar Barca team last season?



A Fraud bullies small team and disappears against team with equal strength( A billion dollar Barca team trashing Eibar who Messi alone earns more than all their player yearly wages combined ) and disappears against Madrid, Psg,. Juventus etc. Yes that's a Fraud.

Jodera:
Maybe lewandowski(which is due to his goals), but aside him, nobody.
I wonder were barca will be if messi is firing blanks against the rest teams but scoring against only both Madrids

It must be difficult scoring against the likes of Eibar, Huscea and Elche.

Jodera:
it's not up to messi to downgrade himself prove to his worth, it's up to Kane to upgrade and move to a big club.

Nobody checks weda he scores or win man of the match against athletico psg or sort, cos the 3point awarded when won against eibar is same 3 point or goal count against athletico and so on.

The rule of dominance is simple, try to score against the opposition you come across (be it big or small) and try to win trophies or take your team higher. Messi goals and assist counted and took him to 3rd. Kane own will take him to conference league 1st edition

If messi loses copa and Kane win euros, that award is going straight to lewandowski

Fact remains what Kane did with Tottenham last season trumps whatever nonsense Messi did with a billion dollar Barca squad. Infact Barca flopped last season.



Tell us why Messi can score and win man of the match against Eibar and Huscea on a regular but when he faces the big boys(Psg, Madrid, Athletico) he becomes useless? Is that not the definition of a Fraud.

Odunharry:
I'm telling you. I doubt there's any player with better stat(Goal plus assist) this year.

Against what opponents are those goals and assists? If we want to dash people Balon dor for statpadding then lewanflopski should be at the forefront.

Jodera:
No rule stipulates that you shouldn't be a balon dor contender cos of the above bolded. It's just you forming that.

Messi didn't finish trophyless, Kane did
Messi had more Motm than Kane
Messi team finished in top 4, Kane didn't
Messi got disgraced in UCL with PSG, Kane got disgraced in UEL with Ascfdexggdsxhh

He didn't even win player of the year that his fellow players will vote sef but na balon dor shout cos him captain England to win euros . Both of them no dey same levels for the contention abeg.

Messi plays for Barca in a farmers league flanked by 130million Dembele and 100million Griezmann while Kane plays for Tottenham who have not won anything since God knows when. Carry Messi to Tottenham last season and they won't even finish top 10 talkless of winning any trophy. More Motm against Eibar and co. How many Motm Against Madrid,Atm, Psg and Juventus last season? Absolute zero

Jodera:
So it's Kane that dominated world football with his team finishing 7th shebi?

Even EPL couldn't even consider him to win pfa or fwa award. He finished trophyless, his team finished 7th(not even top4) but coincidentally you want him to win cos he plays in England or he scored man city and Chelsea?

I hear you

If Messi can be considered for balon dor despite playing nonsense the entire season against big teams and getting disgraced in the champions league then Kane should be considered as well. If Kane for Balon dor is perceived absurd then Messi should not even be on the podium. We are keeping the same spirit.

viciati:
Your permutations are quite absurd Sir.

Trevor012:
Alaye calm down. Trying to perform forced love for England all of a sudden

This place stinks sometimes. This is the idiot telling people to support England.

Jodera:
I think you're unnecessarily hating messi

How? Like I am waiting for a Barca fan to tell me how Messi dominated world football last season for scoring against Eibar and Huscea and so deserve Balon dor