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Lana1:
Na so we see am. If they were mad saves like he used to make, i for understand. But we should clap for him for doing his basic duties as the goalkeeper.

If u're looking for a Keeper who saved his team tonight, it was Lloris.

I have said it that DDG is a sacred cow, make we leave matter, if na another player de do Wetin him de do, hell for let loose. If not for Lloris Spurs would have conceded 2 from martial and 1 from Rashford. If na DDG dey for spurs post, that's a certain goal

elrony:
Maguire caused that goal not DDG. You no see the shot ni?

Which shot? Shot wey Bergwin just do any where belle face, that shot came directly to DDG, he fluffed it into the net, let's pretend as if this is the first time he is committing same error

Lana1:
They were both at fault.

Magwaya was expecting Bergwijn to run to the right. Baba cut to the left. Magwaya started turning like tipper wey carry cement.

Whether the shot hot or not, De Gea should be getting a hand to that. Na him near post ffs. This is not the first time goal dey enter for De Gea's near post this season.

No mind them, even commentator was laughing when spurs were loading DDg with shots, Immediately after they scored, he was like " spurs are trying their luck, to see if they will force ANOTHER error from de gea"

Expert17:
I swear

Because he helped us during Van gaals tenure na

Na so

JayromWrites:
DDG has his fault but he kept us in the game


Maguire was plaim stupid for that goal scored
Rashford lacked sharpness, it was obvious
James was just james
Wan-Bissaka needs to improve offensively
Martial looked uninterested for most part of the game


But it wasn't a bad game
You don't expect to walk over Tothemham like they norwich or something

They have world class players as well with a great coach

Let's pipe down the nagging jare

Kept us in the game? By making routine saves that even ikechukwu Ezenwa can make? SMH

Leyqute:
Magguaya is the culprit for tonight’s goal. Not DDG.

Nothing is ever DDGs fault.

Danhumprey:
But that's not true.

Mellow down on the exaggeration, will you?

It's not an exxergartion,
-Lindelof has been putting in 2-3/10 performances week in week out since this season, and be hiding from game, but when you point it out, you will be reminded how Vidic and Evra struggled initially when they came, forgetting that this is 3 full seasons now for Lindelof.

DDG has been costing us points this season, infact he is among the major reason we are not in top 4, But point it out, you are a hater, you will be reminded how he carried the team during Moyes and Van Gaal.

That of Martial is well documented, I dont need to say much.

But let Maguire, Fred, James, Shaw, AWB etc put in an average performance in a single match. You will never hear the last of it

Expert17:
We don't need a striker naaaa

Sir Alex Ferguson would have sign any available big Striker (Cavani etc)

And telling u, I remember Larsson

chrisley024:
Of course Matic is the best we've now that can move the ball from the defence but he doesn't have the legs.

Tom and Fred should be tried for the role.

With Bruno and Pogba in the lineup, we dont need the 2 of them. Just one, preferably Matic.
Matic, Pogba, Bruno; Rashford, Greenwood and Martial should be our front 6 for now.

Prectega:
No one is talking about that Fraud lindelof

I swear the guy is Verrrrrrrry useless like the P in psychology. Guy if u are expecting anybody to talk about Lindelof being a fraud here, you are on a long thing. Him, Martial and DDG are untouchables on this board, say anything about them, other than praises and hyping, you will be labelled as a hater

Wan bissaka just de kill attack

Ole oooo, make changes na

BlueAngel444:
wait o, what changed are u people something now?

What changed is that anytime we meet Chelsit. We are sure of 3 points

Oasis007:
Roy Keane on De Gea: "I wouldn't even let him on the bus after the game. Let him take a taxi back to Manchester."

- Sky

DDG helped us before when we were nothing, so Keane should keep quiet. We want him to be the UNDISPUTED number 1 till 2030.

nitrogen:
Well, he is useless without the ball now. Just like Jorginho.

You have been looking for a way to slight Bruno, he is our best player in the first half bro

1. Please is Lindelof a defender? Yes Maguire gave Bergwin too much space for the goal, but apart from that he has been the one on all the balls that comes into our area. How the hell is Lindelof a defender in a team like Man united. Is Lindelof actually better than Rojo and Smalling? I dont think so.

2. Martial invisible as usual.

3. Mourinho knew shaw very well and gave him Bergwin to torment him.

4. I have personally made excuses for James previously, but this kind of game is not for him.

5. Please, are we going to keep allowing DDG to cost us points, while we have a capable willing replacement making name for himself? Henderson is clearly better than DDG, but No, he carried the team during Moyes and Van Gaal, so dont you ever say anything bad about him.

Second half we need Pogba,, Greenwood and Ighalo, for Mctom, James, and Martial. And Maybe Later Matic for Fred.

See Maguire. SMH.

sinizia:
Pogba will come in the second-half to unlock the stubborn defence.

God I so much hate that man tactics. You have Kane, Son, Bergwin and Lamela in your lineup, but still parking bus

Mourinho don pack double decker as usual oo, this match go hard us I swear. Na this kind match I hate

timay:
i think his contract was renewed in the beginning of the season before he was loaned back to Sheffield

Ok thanks bro. He should be readied for a starting place very soon, the boy is good

patrickmuf:
Nobody said he isn't ready, the big problem now is what do we do with De Gea?

Personally, I think we should loan Henderson to Sheffield for one more season.

How many years does Henderson got on his contact? Let's not continue loaning him until he is out of contract

And we are saying that this Henderson is not ready?

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Oasis007:


Make una no vex, but I won't mind to roll out the below Formation against Spurs.


_______________ De Gea _________________

AWB ________ Bailly __ Maguire _____ Shaw

__________________ Fred _________________

_____ Fernandes ___________ Pogba ______

Greenwood ______ Martial ______ Rashford

This will be Ole's starting lineup versus Spurs, believe me.
_______________ De Gea _________________

AWB ________ Bailly __ Maguire _____ Shaw

____ Fred ______________Matic/Mctoms

_..................____ Fernandes ___________

James ______ Martial ______ Rashford

Herbiedeen:
Seriously, how many games has Pogba, Neymar and Kane missed through injury since they joined their present club compared to Baily's

And nobody is disputing his ability, but compared to Lindelof's consistency and improvment, he is way below........and apparently you only made mention of just one match while Lindelof has been bossing most times even more than Maguire

Sorry sir, but apart from early season settling in into a new team. Maguire has been head and shoulder above Lindelof, watch our matches very closely, you will see the sort of quality defender Maguire is, apart from early season hiccups, Maguire has clearly proven to be better than every single defender we have had since the retirement of Rio and Vidic. Lindelof on the other hand has been shaky, not just one match, versus Southampton away is another one, too much misplaced passes to no man's land and lacking g in aerial presence. He can improve but we need quality.

Look at the manner you surreptitiously meandered away from the sailent points. You are veering off from the main point, we are talking about who there were, when they joined, not what they previously achieved years ago, like the case of Owen, or will later achieve. For example you can't compare Carrick's status when he joined from spurs and say when he has won many trophies at united.

raumdeuter:
Before joining Man Utd RVP was the top scorer in the entire league just like Lewandoski was top scorer in the league. They were the best strikers in the league and poached from a rival

Like I said this is the only plausible comparison.

raumdeuter:
Just like Rooney was an established player, a starter for England. He had already gone to the Euros and was of the best players in the tournament. So explain how a player who was one of the best players at the Euros become an unproven player? You are saying he was 18yr old. Well Gotze joined Bayern at 19yrs after he won the golden boy award just like Rooney did

Seriously! When did Rooney join United? 2004, at that time Rooney was unproven kid at relegation-threatened Everton, Gotze has already won 2 league titles, DFB pokal as a key midfielder, was instrumental to Dortmund reaching the UCL finals. He was among the overall best players in the league. Imagine Abramovich never even considered Rooney during his spending spree, but bought people like Kezman and Drogba same season, that's to tell you Rooney's status that time.

raumdeuter:
Just like Klose had a world cup record, Owen was a Balon dor winner. The only Englishman to do it in a long time,

Haba Dayo see amalanomics, Owen joined when his career was gone and you are talking about a balloon dor he won 9 years before joining united? Someone on a pay by play contact? Klose that went on to 2 extra world cup to break the record. As at when klose join bayern, he was a statement signing, a world class player, just 1 year after winning the golden boot at the WC on home soil. Owen was at the twilight of his career, while klose joined bayern in 2007, 7 years later, he started and won a world cup final. How can you compare

raumdeuter:
Just like Ballack and Leverkusen just enjoyd a good run in nthe CL, Rio and Leeds just enjoyed a good run in the CL also getting to the CL semi finals. So what is the difference?

A good run So Ballack no longer Dragged them to the final abi. That Leverkusen team was very very good, they challenged on all fronts missing out a treble, their key players went on to shine at the 2002 WC just few weeks later, people like Ballack, Ramelow, Schneider, Lucio, Basturk, etc. Leeds never challenged for anything, that was a true definition of a good run.

raumdeuter:
Maguire is the world record defence signing, For Man Utd to make a defender the world record signing shows his level.



Lucio despite all those was in Leverkusen when they were struggling with relegation until Bayern got him

Are we talking about fee or status?? Bayern were just bidding their time before pouncing, Lucio was always going to bayern. Maguire's price was just due to market forces.

raumdeuter:
You forgot Pavard was also relegated with Stuttgart before joining Bayern? Or that doesnt count? Smith got to CL semi and got relegated, Pavarad won world cup and got relegated

Smith reached UCL semis in 2001 and got relegated in 2004, Pavard, got relegated before winning the world, that was a reverse order. Pavard was on upward trajectory, Smith was on downward spiral. They are not the same. Smith at that time was behind Owen, Rooney, Heskey and Vassel in the national team pecking order. Pavard won the world cup playing all matches, benching Djibril sidibe who reached UCL semis and won the league the previous year. On was clearly going up, the other was dwindling.

raumdeuter:
You mean Ze Roberto? Abeg tell this forum the world cup Ze Roberto won Lets see the one turning amala here.
Before joining Man Utd, Tevez was 3 times SOuth American footballer of the year, Won Copa Libertadores and CLub world cup as a key player, tell us what Ze Roberto won and his contributions to those before Bayern

Sorry I mistaken him for Roque junior, who also player for Leverkusen. even at that, Zeroberto joined Bayern as one of the best midfielders in the league, he was a top proffesional and a quality player.

raumdeuter:
Before joining Bayern, Sule has only played 58mins for Germany and how is Crystal Palace different from Hoffenheim

The difference is AWB just graduated from palace feeders so unproven. Sule has proved himself in the league with Hoffenheim a couple of seasons.

raumdeuter:
False. Lucio joined Bayern in 2004 after Leverkusen struggled with relegation.



Now lets see the person turning amala

it doesn't change anything, they left anyway.
Everything Germany is dominated by Bayern, they hover the best talents in the league, leaving the rest teams helpless. Look at the First XI that started the final in 2014, Eight players (about 80%) have played or playing for bayern at that time. Only Ozil, Krammer and Howedes were exempted, even at that Howedes played in makeshift position, Krammer was a surprise starter, while ozil's place continued to be under scrutiny throughout the competition.

raumdeuter:
Speculative buys indeed
How is RvP different from Lewandoski
Rooney from Gotze
Rio different from Ballack
Owen different from Klose
Berbatov different from Gomez
Maguire different from Hummels
Carrick different from Lucio
Pavard different from Alan Smith
Fellaini from Goretzka
AWB different from Sule
Tevez different from Ze Roberto

This same Frauiola won the EPL twice back to back and even broke the points record, what he was not able to achieve in Bundesliga nor Spain

What are u even saying dayo? The only comparable pair up there is RVP and Lewandowski as at when they joined, even at that, RVP was in Arsenal struggling to even make top 4, while Lewandowski was really leading Dortmund to challenge Bayern, but let's leave it at that.
- But Gotze and Rooney? Gotze, was already an established player in a dortmund when he joined, He was a key member as Dortmund won 2 Bundesliga, and led Dortmund to champions league final, he was among the team of the year in Bundesliga. but Rooney was an unproven 18 year-old kid from Everton who is not even a confirmed starter at Everton, he won his first Young player award in United. You can't compare Rooney at Everton with Gotze at Dortmund. One was an established winner, the other was an unproven kid from a mid table team.

Owen and Klose? Owen was relegated with Newcastle and injury prone, dead career. He was signed on a pay by play basis a surprised and uninspiring signing, who is signed to be a bit part player, compared to the undisputed German number 1 striker? Who retired only in 2014 as the record goalscorer in WC?

Rio and Ballack? The same Ballack that "dragged" Leverkusen and Germany to UCL and World cup finals single handedly? Signing Ballack then was like signing Harry Kane now, he was the face of German football. Nawao Dayo.

Maguire with Hummels. Lol. Hummels that was instrumental to Germany winning world cup and won 2 league titles with Dortmund, DfB portal and leading Dortmund defence to UCL final? Maguire that was relegated with Hull city 2 years ago, and Couldnt qualify Leicester to even Europa. Haba Dayo, fear God na.

Lucio to Carrick. Carrick a player who just broke out at Spurs and never tasted any European football before joining united. You are comparing with Lucio that already won world cup with Brazil, scored in Champions league final vs Madrid as the defensive leader, and his team lost the league and Cup to Bayrern on the final day. A Key quality player, world cup winner to an unproven spurs midfielder.

Pavard to Smith? A world cup winner and Smith who just got relegated with Leeds then joined United as a bit part player behind Nistelrooy, Saha and Forlan, his strike partner at Leeds Viduka joined Middlesbrough, is for you to know.

Tevez who rescued just Westham from relegation? To a world cup winner? Kai! Dayo!!!

AWB, that few months ago was in Palace feeders team? To an established German international like Sule?

That Bayern signed Zeroberto, Ballack and Lucio from Leverkusen just after a season they (leverkusen) nearly won the treble and fiercely challenged them on all fronts, is a testament of a clear talent drain. Just like man united signing Terry, Drogba and Lampard in 2006, after Gerrard, Henry joined the previous season. Tell me a recent proven German international of legendary status that did not play for Bayern. If it were in Bundesliga Guardiola would have signed Mane, Sallah, Robertson and Kane after last season, and will be readying bids for TAA and Pogba next summer.

I know say u must turn amala, but u know This is clear fact

raumdeuter:
Can you use this same energy to give us a list of players Man utd bought from other PL rivals

In your team below are some players who played for you in the last 2 seasons that came from other EPL sides
AWB, Slabhead Maguire, Shaw, Matic, Mata, Alexis , Smalling, Lukaku, Young, Jones, Fellaini Daniel James
In that list you named over 20 players from year 2000

In that time frame I can add people like Rio, Berbatov, Carrick, tevez, schneiderlin, Valencia Van Persie Rooney, VDS, Michael Owen, Allan Smith, Saha, Bellion, Carroll,


Despite that you have not finished top 4 despite spending almost a billion

Look at the kind of players you are calling. There is high competition from top EPL clubs for talents. Most of these guys are just speculative buys rather than certain key game changers. Among the players you mentioned, Only Van persie was the best in their position as at the time he arrived United, everyother one of them including Rooney could go either way. If united behave like Bayern, Our first eleven would have been DDG, VVD, Maguire, AWB, Robertson, KDB, Pogba, Kante, Salah, Hazard and Kane. With Rashford, Aubameyang, Alexander-Arnold, etc on the bench. Aguero, Vardy, Mahrez would have played for Us, and left.
It's not same, No wonder fraudiola is not finding easy. Even Okey Emordi or Ladan Bosso will win Bundesliga with Bayern. Rubbish league

https://www.squawka.com/en/bayern-munich-signings-from-bundesliga-rivals/


Cc.. Raumdeuter.

Dayo, look at what Bayern is doing in Germany, hovering up talents from their rivals, no wonder no competition in burndisleaguedown. Tueehh!!!! No wonder fraudiola won 3 straight titles in that league, but could not repeat same in EPL, after spending close to a billion Euros on Champions league semi finalists. Tufiakwa!

https://www.squawka.com/en/bayern-munich-signings-from-bundesliga-rivals/


Cc.. Raumdeuter.

Dayo, look at what Bayern is doing in Germany, hovering up talents from their rivals, no wonder no competition in burndisleaguedown. Tueehh!!!! No wonder fraudiola won 3 straight titles in that league, but could not repeat same in EPL, after spending close to a billion Euros on Champions league semi finalists. Tufiakwa!!!

Ravioli:
Wetin him do again?!?

That Haaland deal wey him deny us.