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elampiro2:
You have just sacked the whole team

We still have, Bailly, Lindelof, Dalot, Mctominay, Shaw, Lukaku, Rashford, and Matic.

Fred, Pereira and Martial for me on borrowed time. If we are serious we need a lot of offloading.

afrodoc2:
I hope you are wrong and will give him the benefit of the doubt for the first half of next season.

He should realize he is in a dogfight and if he is loyal to unproductive players the media, fans, and finally the board will turn on him.

Thank you very much

weedtaker:
You actually think you made any sense with that epistle? Lol

I cry for your brain

Lol. Are you saying we dont need to offload 80% of our squad?

afrodoc2:
Abeg this is a very honest question. Does it make sense?

E be like say Solskjaer wants to be unfortunate. Those the gods wish to destroy they first make mad.

With his current attitude of renewing useless players contracts and taking a soft demeanour to undisciplined players, I forsee Carrick or Phelan managing us on caretaker basis by Christmas. Because i dont see him outlasting Xmas

weedtaker:
Lol, dis one wan sell our top scorer and keep matic, cuz of wetin him read for paper, abeg o

Lol. Na because of just Matic make u cancel the whole post? Remember i said we reduce his number of appearance. This guy na real weed taker. Lol

dubylhover:
I read somewhere that De tea has turned down the final contract offer...

Good riddance, out he should go. Simple, at their peaks, Van der sar or Schmeichel did not hold us to ramsom. Not to talk of a recently error prone GK

elrony:
We should borrow a leaf from City!... Boot out underperforming cvnts and replace them with better options, that's how you improve a team.

Why on Earth should we keep aged players who offer little or nothing, with humongous wages? Hope you are factoring they'd be older next season?

I tire oo, keep this, keep that. Let them continue keeping deadwoods with over bloated ego and wages to keep curropting the dressing room, ask yourself why most of our signings flop.

In another point, I heard DDG is demanding for 350k a week. for God's sake, why are we delaying offloading these guys. De gea should be sober this season for committing numerous school boy errors that cost us at the end of the season not demanding for an improved extortionate increase. Why is it that we dont know when to move people on? Sanchez, DDG, Pogba and Herrera should be the first the club should be forcing out, Herrera is gone, when are we getting rid of these other ones.

We should be looking at doing a clean sweep in terms of the "Outs".
1.DDG -
Reasons:
I. As part of stabilising the wage structure, ii. To send warming and shock accross the squad that no one is indispensable iii. Yes he has been legendary, but his errors recently are cause for concern. He might be in decline, even if not, no wahala.

Pogba.
Reasons:
1. For being a virus curropting the work ethics and discipline in the squad. Ii. To stabilise our wage structure. Iii. For being shit for 80% of the season and turning up just 20% of the time.

Everyone of the following players for being way below average, and have already been corrupted by the bad work ethics in the dressing room.

Damian, Sanchez, mata, Young,Lingard, Jones, Smalling, Rojo.

Thanks to Antonio Valencia for serving the club in a honourable way.

Martial, Fred and Perrira, must shape up or shape out. Rashford need a loan to the championship to learn simple good behaviour. I will keep Matic and place him on few games..

For me we should be going for young hungry players not stars

wizkitvick:
Manchester United are expected to name Ashley Young as club captain next season and make pogboom deputy captain in a ploy to make him stay....Can they just release Ashley young for goodness sake... OGS never learn... Why the f**k will you chain Pogba down with that,Cant we just sell that guy as it appears only his body is in Manchester and his soul is somewhere else.

I. repeat, So far Pogba remain in United, Next season will be very terrible. Do all the permutations you like about the team, but if that idiot remains, we are heading for another disastrous season. Pogba is a Virus as maintained by Mourinho. Lets keep calculating and not sell off the bad stench corrupting the team spirit and work ethics in the dressing room.

baliyubla:
This stupid Rilwanu boys idiocy truly knows no bounds. And this low life scum is who some tag their King.

Be careful, before he lays a curse on you.

Unlimited22:
Unless a change of system is imminent and Pogba leaves, Dybala will be yet another square peg in a round hole at United. He's an SS/AM type who can't play on the wings, and that role, when it comes up, is Pogba's.

Dor God's sake, why wont pogba leave? As far as he remains with us, the team will still perform badly.

elampiro:
My argument about Shaw in the beginning of the season were:

1. Our left side is our most important attacking outlet.

2. Shaw didnt appear to have attacking flair and his forward passing with one foot is weak.

3. Young has been our number one in that position and we remained very dangerous from there right from time of Van Gaal, and continued unto Mourinho. He was set to continue this seaon but injury prevented him. His ability to cut behind the defence line or cut back and pull out to far post for where Fellaini or Lukaku will be waiting was a big bonus. His crossing from the left is better than from the right. Even from his Villa days.

4. I would have taken Blind over Shaw based on their past attacking flair comparison.

This was where the argument began, and some wanted to rate Young with one or two games in that position where he had not played there whole season. This was same Young who was the only defender who pocketed Salah last season.

Everything you keep saying about shaw in this forum is crap. Did Shaw snatch your childhood girlfriend from you?

eph12:
The club needs to shoot down these ridiculous wage demand. If they'll only stay because of increase in wages, they're free to leave please. How many players of their level are earning more than them in Europe? I don't care who the guy thinks he is

This is my sentiment, money should not be the driving force. If you love the club,play your hearts out, especially when you are among the top 3 earners in the world in your position.

larride:
So how is asking for 50k increment destabilizing the dressing room? You pay top players high wages and DDG is one of the top players we have. We cannot say because Rashford, Lingard and the likes are asking for useless salary that they don’t warrant means we can’t pay our goalie the salary he deserves.

All through the contract negotiations till now, I have never seen DDG come out to talk about any shit. Man even sign a one year entension of his current contract so they could trash out the next contract. Man is loyal. Blame Ed for his cluelessness.

I agree with you sha. I think a stiff punishment should be given smallies like Rashford who think they have arrived, asking for big contract after wasting numerous scoring chances this season. That Rashford eeh, sometimes e de be me like say make i smash the idiot head

codedguy1:
How much does DDG earn now? £200k?

Must the club agree to what he wants? If his contract is coming to an end then negotiations takes place. Let them add £15k, if him no like make e go.

But what do i know, Is it my Money!

I tire ooo,

kendrick93:
which is where a coach whose worth his salt comes in... the guy is 20,he's not the finished material....he will definitely have up and downs,everyone young player goes through such..
it's left for your Ole to improve to reach his potential

Excellent. I love this comment. Certain Ronaldo lacks end product when he came newly, gradually he developed into a beast, his breakthrough season, was in 2006/07 season

afrodoc2:
We can get rid of those players relatively easily if the club wants. The only problem would be Sanchez and his white elephant contract.

And we would only bring in 5 players and promote 3-5 youth players.

For Sanchez unfortunately we can count our loss and terminate his contract

codedguy1:
How much does DDG earn now?

200k per week. 10.4 million per annum.

larride:
How’s DDG a big liability?

DDG is not complaining anywhere, he’s doing his job as a professional that he is. Where the talk of ego or indiscipline coming from? It’s now ego or indiscipline to ask for increment in wages especially when the previous contract is running down?

Players have dip in form sometimes and you know that. DDG has never been a liability to the club, the young man has treated the club with respect and he’s not the reason why we didn’t make top 4. If your attackers had done their job effectively we won’t be where we are currently.

Ederson, Allison and Oblak are not better than DDG.

Come on , my dear. I am not downgrading de gea. Neither am i saying he has ego or is complaining. But we we need to sacrifice people like him for normalize the dressing room, put a cap on our wages, which will only attract hungry players who are ready to fight to us. Not mercenaries, who are after huge pay check, who after getting their fat contracts, loses motivation. With DDGs current pay, he is among the highest paid GKs in the world, if not even the highest overall, why holding the club to ransom, together with pogba and Herrera they even corrupted small Rashford. Dont you know that this is capable of destabilizing the dressing room? If he is a Man united great (which he is) i expect him to put the club first, even considering how much he even earns now.
how many times have u heard, Scholes, Giggs, G.Neville, Keane and Butt holding the club to ramsom because of wages? Iniesta? Xavi? Did DDG give more than these icons?. Please my brother tell me why a section of united supporters lost affection for Rooney, he held the club to ramsom and embarrassed the great SAF. He later forced Moyes to give him a ridiculous 5 year deal, we dont want such scenario again. If he is responsible he should settle for a slight increase or same salary considering how poor the team performed this season and how bitterly disenchanted the supporters are.
I dont like bashing big and loyal players, but All 3 goals he conceded versus Barcelona he has a hand in all, Yes including Coutinhos long range effort. The game that started our league decline vs Arsenal he contributed heavily to the loss, versus City, Against Chelsea when we are completely in control of our fate he let them back in, versus Everton he conceded ridiculous goals. This may be a sign he need to go. And like i said, if he becomes good elsewhere, good riddance.

Bastian Schweisteiger paid his due at Bayern, they shipped him out one year afyer he led Germany to world cup glory same for Lietchteiner at Juve, they didnt retain these players to watch them as monuments of history and fond memories while the team suffers.

Those 3 keepers are ordinarily below DDG. But currently not many mangers will pick DDG ahead Oblak at least not after the world cup.

afrodoc2:
Unfortunately i can’t really argue with what you have just said.
Only thing is IF they are going we must get top dollar for them. However it would be so much better if we could somehow be successful with them in the team.

In terms of the squad at large, I would offload about 10 players as well, buy 5 new players and promote/recall 5 players from youth team.

The aim should be for the 2020/2021 season and next season should be about setting the foundation for long term success.

Thank you very much. We can write off next season and build for the future. Bring in unheralded fighters. Firminho and Mane 2 of the famous front 3 came quietly when liverpool were not in Europe at all. Salah did not join liverpool as a top draw club at that time. Ditto Son, Alderwerield, Vertonghen, Eriksson, and Hugo Lloris for Spurs. Most "big" players now have ego problem and disorganises team structure. The best are players like Umtiti and Dybala who have much to prove.

My brother, We all like these players and will want to win with them but discipline is totally lacking. Fergie would have binned these players long ago. We need to sack massively. My opinion though.

Another thing is from Pogba, Lukaku and Smalling/Jones we can get 200m. Degea should also fetch good money.

larride:
You won’t get rid of Smalling and Jones in the same transfer window, heck, we might not get rid of any of them yet sef.

I will pay DDG 250k, he has paid his dues and he merit it 100%.

I have always advocated for the sale of Pogba as far back as during Mou debacle then but I’m not really sure the board will want to sell him unless he really want to bounce.

I will keep Darmain has a squad player, he rarely feature for us and he doesn’t complain. Whenever he has been called upon, he give his best. I will keep him.

Sanchez can fück off to China, I don’t care about that. Martial can join him sef even Lingard.

Every team has some players they pay way above the rest, it’s because Ed doesn’t know zilch that’s why average joes like Rashford and co can be asking for salary increment when serving us dross.

You no like DDG pass me. But i wont pay him 250k. Ederson, Allison, Oblak who are currently better than him dont collect that amount. Yes he has paid his dues, like casillas, Valdez, Cech in Chelsea etc, but these teams got rid of them. He is one of the reason we didnt make top 4. We need to move him on, he may become outstanding somewhere else and we get a shit keeper, but it doesn't matter. We need big statement moves like these to recharge the squad. The team lacks discipline and players are feeling too comfortable.

Ferguson shipped out Stam and he went on to be fantastic elsewhere, but that didnt stop him ditching Roy Keane, Beckham and Van Nistelrooy, when their ego got better of them and has the potential of ruining the dressing room. That will make others to sit up, whenever a player misbehaves, he will be reminded how big legendary players were forced out of the team, that will make him know he is not above the club. Its unfortunate but for me, DDG is a big liability now, both in terms of performance and atmosphere. Pogba is an epitome of disunity and indiscipline, i dont care about his talent.

Itsmedozie:
yes it is
but they can't all be shipped out in one transfer window

Why Is it not possible? For me we need total cleansing. Totally new identity. Ship out ALL deadwoods, if not expect another useless and inspiring season

larride:
DDG is staying for me
Jones or Smalling is staying
Pogba will prolly stay
Martial can leave
Lingard can leave
Rashford can go on loan
Matic sold
Valencia - gone already
Young - Use as bonus for anyone that buy smalling or Jones
Rojo - sold
Darmain - stay
Herrera - gone
Mata - free
Sanchez - off to China
Lukaku - stay
Fred - Stay

Why in Gods name should Damian, Jones and Smalling stay. Why Why we just offload these people and free ourselves of these deadwoods.

Pogba stayyyyyyyy? If pogba stay, we are finishing 6th. De gea should be going also, getting rid of Degea, Pogba, and Sanchez will reduce our wage structure and rejigthe commitment of the players. Pogba as Jose put it is a virus, his attitude and character stinks like rotten egg. Pogba is a clear example of a juvinile deliquent child., even at 26

Itsmedozie:
it's not done that way bro

Its necessary now

Itsmedozie:
na only you Waka come??

What i need is total clearance

larride:
God bless you.

Anyway I believe we should be able to get 4-5 deadwood out of the team and anyone we are getting in must be we sure are going to fit into the starting 11, we don’t need any fringe players anymore as we have them in bulk.

If they finally renew Mata contract then I don’t think we are serious yet. Whatever chance you want to give Mata, give it to Greenwood or Garner.

We should seriously be looking at 10 players to ship out.

OUT..

1. Valencia.
2. Young.
3. Smalling.
4. Jones.
5. Damian.
6. Matic.
7. Mata.
8. De gea( yes he has to go, his wage demand is too much.).
9. Pogba. ( as far as i am concern, pogba is a useless player.).
10. Sanchez.
11. Rojo.
12. Lukaku.
LAST CHANCE SALOON.
1. Lingard ( he is fuc..king 26.
2. Martial.
3. Bailly.

IN.

Samuel Umtiti.
Daniel James.
Brooks.
Dybala.
Ndombele.
Wan- Missaka.
Ben Chillwell.
.
Promote.
Chong.
Garner.
Gomez.
Greenwood.

Bring back . Pereira, Tuanzebe and Fosu- Mensah.

SQUAD.
,Pereira, Romero, Tuanzebe, Umtiti, Lindelof, Bailly, Fosu-Mensah, Shaw, Wan- Missaka, Dalot, Chillwell, Pereira, Fred, Mctominay, Ndombele, Dybala, Herrera, Martial, Gomez, Garner, Chong, Rashford, Brooks, Daniel James.


AND... lower our expectations, anybody who complains of salary more than 150k/week should be sold. And then continue blooding academy talents.

DeadPresidents:
While they are not mates, the similarities aid integration. Success stories in the Premier League from the lower divisions include:

Ruben Neves
Dele Alli
James Madison
Riyad Mahrez

Harry Kane has extensive lower league experience starring for Millwall and Leicester.

Making the step up from Championship to the Premier league is not as difficult as people put it after all the championship is the sixth most difficult league competition in the world rated above the Scottish and Belgian leagues.

Jamie Vardy, Kyle walker, Keirian Trippier, Tim Cahill, Wes Morgan, John Stones, James Brooks(i want us to sign this guy), etc are some of the players that rose from championship and immediately bedded in straight in premier league.

elampiro:
What he did today was horrible, when we were one nil up, he started playing for himself. Many times it was easier to pass than to dribble, but he choose the latter and kept running into bodies. He preferred to be brought down and claim a free kick than pass forward to his team mate ready to push attack quick.

Spot on. Many dont see this. I agree with Mourinho, pogba is a virus

diggz:
You don finally settle in?

Yeah bro

elampiro:
It is over. We are not going to UCL next season.

Will DDG recover from this? His strongest points were that he has reflexes and didn't vomit shots. If these ones are taken from him, he is finished.

Ole is highly unambitious with his substitutions. Senseless Rashford is still better than Sanchez. Better still bring Martial of Lingard. And McTominay is suppose to score goals for us?

Pogba and Rashford play for themselves.

I said that pogba is useless, some people are arguing it. Ok oo. For me He should be booted out Old Trafford asap.

chidexxy007:
Lol, why do you need our collective consensus?

Pogba na mumu walahi