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lolz so Ibra was earning 200k initially. later took a pay cut to 125k. but Mr amalanomics said he earns 400k and pay cut of 225k. ok oo.

Pogba initially earns 165.5k to rise to slightly above 200k when we won the europa to qualify for champions league.

raumdeuter you see your life? shame don be your own now.

sinizia:
Taa. Who don't have link? I have the link up there. Dayo Amalanomics should not be allowed here

I saw the link. I just wanted him to leave me alone. I don't have time for his long amala turning. if Ibra collecting 400k makes him feel better, that one consine am.

raumdeuter:
Small remain, Man Utd spends by far the most on wages and are 12points behind Guardiola which shows he is a far better manager than Mourinho

Is that clear?

ok

raumdeuter:
You mean you cannot provide evidence of how much Zlatan was earning before the pay cut? This is what happens when facts slap someone in the face

we don't have link. Ibra earns 400k. are u happy now?

sinizia:
Ibra earning close to 400k at United? Must be Kwara United, then.

no dayo united.

raumdeuter:
Ibra was earning over 350K before the pay cut,

https://talksport.com/football/alexis-sanchez-wages-man-united-compared-other-premier-league-players-including-pogba-and?p=0

e don do. Sanchez is 2 million per day. Lukaku is 4m per hour, Ibra is 2m per day, Pogba is 5m per match. does that make you happy? look at the way dis Sanchez deal just de pepper una.

raumdeuter:
https://scontent.fbed1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/21687695_1616280055153523_6055455339006295142_n.jpg?oh=b0dc69187447c852d305a1a995aa6a34&oe=5B25FFA1

So who is buying the league, who is the checkbook manager

Ibra is earning 150k, he took a pay cut when he renewed his contract. Lukaku is 200k, Pogba is 220k 189k through out last season until we got to UCL this season. and finally Sanchez earns around 300k not the 500k you haters and sister sites are bandying up an down. Sanchez deal was announced yesterday same time KDB renewal was announced at 280k, but you choose to remove it to suit your hating narrative. When you come up with the true figures from a satisfactorily credible site, then we will have a debate.

sold Costa and Matic, exiled Luis and then went ahead to buy the following.
Barkley, Yoko, Rudiger, Drinkable, Zappacosta, Miss World.
as if that was not funny enough, they want to sign Aunty Caro, Daddy Crouch, Kevin Davies and Ashley Barnes. chai My Lord knows how to punish some people walahi.

raumdeuter:
Dem no get names

lolz you no know the players man u signed newly? they will have to gel.

Swansea doing the lords work on Liverpool. my problem with it is that it takes shekpe back to 3rd.

raumdeuter:
Who is gelling?

most of our new players.

raumdeuter:
So we wont hear any excuse of how City has the best squad anymore

until they gel

chuckdee4:
Not entirely, I doubt this part of his statement

"This signing only confirms that. Sanchez had the opportunity to go into a team where he could have won a trophy. But he didn’t, he chose to go to United because of everything they stand for and that says a lot about the size of the club."

are u in Sanchez mind to know why he went to united?

raumdeuter:
Sane Jesus and Sterling wont need to gell next season when they have already been in the formation and tactics for 2 seasons. So explain why Pogba Bailly and Matic who has been playing under Mourinho for multiple seasons still need next season to gell

How did he improve Rojo? Whats the improvement in Rojo? Mourinho didnt improve all those Depay Schneiderlin, Schweinsteiger either

3. So how has Arsenal become a standard for a player being good? DIdnt Arsenal take Welbeck and Silvestre?

Matic joined this season so he still require 2 more gelling years. Pogba and Bailly joined Same time with sane, this is sterlings 3rd season. not forgetting Lukaku. many of our players are in need of gelling.

Rojo was adjudged to be surplus to requirements when LVG who bought him was leaving. but before he unfortunately got injured he was our best defender. he is back now and is now gradually being reintegrated into the team. Depay, Scheiderlin, and Scheisteiger are deadwoods before Jose came. why didn't I mention Nasri, Mangala, Bony and Joe hart as those pep killed. they are already deadwoods.
Silvestre went on a free to solve an urgent defensive crises, they even have to bring back Campbell that same period. Welbeck was starting for England before he left and was flourishing at united, that he failed to light up Arsenal is none of our business, his transfer then was heralded as a coup. But miki earned us a world class player in exchange. a killed player won't get you that. Mkhi was bought for 26m he is now valued at 35m same wit Sanchez whom pep nearly bought for 60m.

raumdeuter:
1. So if Pogba Bailly Matic etc need to gell now, what have they been doing for the past 2 seasons they have been bought?

2. Mourinho should make them good enough or use them like that shebi Pep is using Sterling Delph and Itamendi like that

3. You swapped a player with 3yrs left on his contract for one with 6 months left on his contract. In 6months Alexis would be free, that was the player you swapped with a player that would still have 3yrs left by June

1. same way Sane, Sterling and Jesus were gelling for pep.
2. you can't improve everybody, he improved Rojo, Lingard, Valencia and made Herrera to come to national team reckoning. Pep didn't also improve everybody like Bravo, Nolito and Iheanacho
3. he is good that was why arsenal accepted. Arsenal wouldn't have accepted Wilfred Bony even if he has a millennium remaining in his contract.

Ibime:
Yes Aguero is better than Lukaku and Utd don't have answer to KDB and Silva.

Besides Alexis will need one year to gel like Pep.

lolz dayo your words have a way of dealing you a bad one in future.

raumdeuter:
So Mourinho didnt know his age when he was buying a 36yr old striker?

He knew. which warranted his replacement, his long injury lay off made it more justifiable. for bravo he was benched by even am older second choice keeper who is now in Chelsea from city on free transfer. that's a quintessential flop.

raumdeuter:
If Zlatan was great Mourinho would not go splash 75M on another striker, even the times this season when he was fit, he was sitting on the bench. between Mid November and late December that is like Bravo right there

An old purchase that both coaches gambled on flopped and you have to buy a newer younger one for a high fee

Herrera was a decent player under LvG, Fosu Mensah was breaking into the team and now on loan

Januzaj flopped outside Man Utd, Iheanacho flopped outside City after initial promise

your points are laughable.
so mourinho should not replace a 36 year old who is out for nearly a year. even if he is Messi, if he gets injured and wil be out for 10 months you need a replacement. Zlatan replacement is not performance based. Bravo's is.
Zlatan did not flop its a non issue. Bravo flopped.
Zlatan is a one year stop gap and have solved his purpose, you don't quickly start a player that is out for 10 months. Bravo can for 17 millions and failed bravo wasn't replaced due to injury. Zlatan was replaced due to injury even till now he haven't recovered. Don't equate Zlatan with Bravo. he performed better than every city's player before getting injured. Bravo was the worst keeper in the league before being replaced.

Herrara wasn't called up for NT then. Jose helped him to it.
Januzaj failed before he met mourinho. Iheanacho failed after he met pep.

raumdeuter:
1. Who are Man Utd new players?
2, You have full backs under 30yrs use them. No excuse there
3. Mourinho killed Mikitarayan a 30M Pounds signing, Herrera, Fosu-Mensah, Depay and Januzaj

1.Pogba, Bailly, Matic Lukaku, and soon Sanchez. that's half of the team in as starters. a lot of gelling is needed. and our prospective 200m pounds new full backs as the ones we have now are over 30.

2. the younger ones are not good enough. Jose met them at united. so if Pellegrini had signed Azubuike Egwuekwe for city before left, Pep will use them because they are young .irrespective of their ability. dayo make up your mind.

3. Mkhitaryan? ?? Are u serious?? If a "killed" player can earn a direct swap deal with a world class player like Sanchez, then Jose need to kill more players. for example, can you swap 30m Bony for Sanchez?
mensah is developing well at palace and is touted be the heir to replace Valencia, you goofed here dayo. the last 2 are deadwoods before Jose came.

raumdeuter:
How is that Iheanacho faring in Leicester? Is he starting? Januzaj didnt start outside Man Utd, you absolve Mourinho, Iheanacho doesnt start outside City you blame Guardiola. Both Januzaj and Iheanacho were hot prospects, they didnt live up to their initial promise even with their new coaches they have both been sold and are still flops at their new abodes

So when are we going to get to Depay?

So is Herrera starting now? Gundogan has been injured at some time in the beginning of the season yet has 200less mins than Herrera

So Mourinho didnt know Zlatans age when he signed him? Bravo is what Zlatan is to Man Utd, An old transfer who ended up flopping

oga quit turning upandan. Zlatan started when fit and didn't flop. Bravo started and flopped, he is now fit but not starting. he is a city flop. Zlatan is a united success.
Gundogan status did not change when he joined city. Herrara got his national team cap when he met mourinho.
Depay failed at united before mourinho came.

Januzaj failed pre Mourinho, He never started a game for mourinho, he is no longer a great prospect when mourinho arrived. the hottest prospects in City and united were Iheanacho and Rashford respectively,. Mourinho upgraded his talent to the level of a champion's league semi-finalists while pep killed his own talent. Iheanacho failed at Leicester because pep has killed his psychology. Januzaj and Iheanacho are not analogous. Rashford and Iheanacho are comparable.

hardeycute:
Dayo can be frustrating sometimes but you don't argue facts.

Jesus started a PL game before getting injured although games leading to that he was being benched

you are talking nonsense. who is city's top strike? name city's first eleven.

raumdeuter:
Jesus is not a starter but has the similar number of stats as Martial who is a starter? Explain how that works

Bye bye. you don enter factory setting.

1. Man U needs to gel with their new players
2. until we replace our over 30s full backs we and the replacements gel we are still short.
3. Pep killed Iheanacho Jose developed Rashford the same manner pep did to a 46m pounds signing who played UCL semi-final last season.

raumdeuter:
How is it gibberish when stats here are showing us Martial has only started one more game than Jesus. Yet one is a starter one isnt?

Jesus is not a starter. Aguero is City's top striker dayo and you know.

raumdeuter:
How is Jesus not a starter and Martial is?

Jesus has started 19 games this season played similar number of minutes as Martial who has started 20 games this season

Jesus 12 EPl starts
Martial 13 EPL starts

Jesus 4 CL starts
Martial 4 CL starts

Jesus 3 Carling Cup starts
Martial 3 Carling cup starts

http://www.espnfc.com/player/181140/anthony-martial
http://www.espnfc.com/player/217289/gabriel-jesus
You see why stats matter

gibberish. how many league matches Jesus has started in the last 10 when fit, and how many martial has started.
I have named city's first eleven, Jesus is not there. you name united first eleven, without Martial. oga Jesus is not a starter it's a common knowledge. stop turning upandan and running away from the main point

raumdeuter:
Thats like saying Bernado Silva has featured in all games and making 33 appearances this season. Currently Rashford is developing at the rate Bernardo is developing

Iheanacho was like Januzaj, Nothing stopped Mourinho from recalling Januzaj and playing him just like he did to Fosu Mensah, WHats going on with Herrera too? Destroyed

Zlatan was a waste. If you have to spend 75M on his position. Zlatan is the Bravo of Man utd, A failed gamble

Dayo you are a joker. it seems you are entering your factory mode now. Zlatan was a waste?? you replace a 36 year old who is injured for 10 months? that means he is a waste? may be he will play with crutches. dayo be kiaful!!!

before mourinho Herrara was ignored by spanish NT, it's under mourinho that he got his first senior cap, and currently Herrara has started more matches and played more minutes that Gundogan.

Fosu mensah did not fail on loan making 2 appearances a season in Dortmund, Januzaj failed in Dortmund and failed to start in Sunderland a team adjudged to be the worst in Premier league era. Iheanacho was a hot prospect without any record of failure just like Rashford. Jose suceeded in nurturing his own, Pep killed his. if mourinho could be developing Rashford an academy graduate, at the rate at which pep is developing a 46m pounds signing who played UCL semi-final last season as a key player. then he needs to be knighed considering his counterpart Iheanacho failed under the same Pep.

raumdeuter:
if Jesus is not a starter then can we say Martial is not a starter since they have played similar number of minutes in all comps this season

This is despite Jesus missing the last 3 and half games injured

MY man don't be funny. Jesus is not a starter. Aguero, Sane and Sterling are starters in Attack, Fernadinho, KDB and Silva are starting MFs. Martial is currently the undisputed best united attacking player and have started All the Matches in the past months, apart from when he had a knock during Xmas. please don't try to be slippery here all of us know the truth.

raumdeuter:
What opposite did Jose do to Rashford. If you are looking for development see what Pep did to Sterling and Sane. Not Rashford who isnt a starter currently

Zlatan was a supreme hit where? He has barely played a ful game this season and its January. Linjollof flourishing where? If Lindelof is flourishing then Danilo is also flourishing no be so

He is not a starter but has featured in all the games and stated a lot Making 31 appearances so far in all competitions, he doesn't start often now because of the undeniable ability of martial. Pep shipped

Iheanacho. he killed his confidence and destroyed him.
Zlatan was a hit when fit scoring 28 goals in 42 app for at 36. it's not his fault he is now injured. you can't deny his signing was a supreme success.

raumdeuter:
Sane Ederson and Jesus. in Man Utd only Pogba who actually grew up in English football academy

Jesus is not a starter.
this is city starting eleven.

Ederson, stone, Otamendi, Delphi, walker, Fernadinho, Silva, KDB, sterling, Sane and Aguero.

by Mr logic I will add Miki, Zlatan and lindelof

raumdeuter:
Should we also look at Zlatan Lindelof and Mikitaryan who were bought by Mourinho. Iheanacho has broken into the team before Pep came

Iheanacho = Januzaj, Not forgetting Depay

Januzaj is already a flop before Jose arrived. equate Iheanacho with Rashford they busted in the scene the same time on the same footing and the media were even comparing them. Pep couldnt develop the kid handed to him. Jose did the opposite.

Zlatan was a supremely a hit and Lindelof is flourishing I deliberately don't want to add them as among inexperienced EPL recruit. the way you are forcing in gundogan, cos they are not starters

raumdeuter:
You are not consistent, you were the one who brought the issue of "Mourinho didnt buy" and I gave you a list of those Pep didnt buy too.

The point is that Man Utd have a better team. More players in their current 11 with EPL experience, More of the new players have played with Mourinho for longer, Mourinho has yong options as full backs. Unlike Pep where more of his buys dont have EPL experience, most of his buys have never played under Pep before and are not used to his tctics so have to learn. Peps full backs last season were all old over 30 and not desired by top clubs after they left

I am consistent. of peps first 11. on Sane needs gelling by it logic. the other being a GK.

mourinhos first eleven Pogba also needs gelling.
so wants the difference.

raumdeuter:
Nolito = Schneiderlin
Mangala = Rojo
Iheanacho = Januzaj
Bravo = Valdes


We still have room for Depay and others

He improved Rojo.

and none of those players are Joses recruit. pep brought Nolito and Bravo, and Iheanacho broke into the first team proper on his arrival just like Rashford. on Joses arrival look at the 2 of them now.

raumdeuter:
Pep didnt buy Delph too, he didn't buy Otamendi too nor Fernandinho KDB Silva Aguero or Sterling
If you count Bailly who hasnt played much of a role this season due to injury, can we also list Mendy and Gundogan?

Jose didn't buy Mata, Lingard, Martial, Rojo, and Young, Jones. but he performed magic on them. Gundogan is not first team