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raumdeuter:
That was what the coach had to say about Ballacks importance

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2002/jun/26/worldcupfootball2002.sport5

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raumdeuter:
Kroos in 2002 world cup? I am sure you would blame mistake again

Kroos was 12yrs old at that time

klose auto correct

raumdeuter:
You mean in a game called the losers final? A game for losers?

Brazil beat Turkey 1-0 and trounced Germany 2-0 few days later.

raumdeuter:
And without those Ballack goals what would Kahns save have done

like Ballack would have kept out the goals olive r Kahn kept out. Talking about goals Kroos scored 5. the fact is Oliver Kahn was the one that dragged Germany not Ballack

raumdeuter:
Humor me, Who was the best player in the German team that reached the final

Oliver Kahn. they were comparing his performance to that of Lev Yashin that won USSR the Euro s in the 60s

chic2pimp:
Dayo did Ollie Khan win the Golden Ball or not?

don't mind him. I was waiting for him to argue it. Oliver Kahn wan the one who DRAGGED Germany to the final conceding just one goal vs Ireland to Robbie Keane before the final.

raumdeuter:
When I searched for Terry's strenght as a footballer, they said Leadership. One would think say na Buhari or Obama bio you dey look

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raumdeuter:
Qualifiers are not world cups, Thats why goals scored at qualifiers are not added to get the top scorer at the main tournament

South Korea won Spain Italy and Portugal at the world cup proper not in qualifiers

same way Turkey beat them in a party mood.

raumdeuter:
Ballack dominated the world cup dominated the CL what has Gattuso done on that level in his entire career

dominated world cup? Ballack wasn't the best player in that German team that reached the finals.

raumdeuter:
Ecuador was in the same grou with Germany and they didnt play either Brazil nor Argentina in the world cup

so Ecuador just jumped into the world cup ago? didnt they pass through qualifiers?

chic2pimp:
Dayo Nah wayo man ..



Nah one simple question I ask am since the beginning dey make am run from boiling water to Frying pan to Fire. What Trophy Did the all conquering ballack lift in 2002?

South Korea trophy. or rather he DRAGGED Germany to defeat South Korea.

raumdeuter:
Well teams like Spain Italy and Portugal

didn't Ecuador beat Brazil, Argentina etc enroute to meeting England?

raumdeuter:
Go and check with those who give awards

pooling booth awatd

chic2pimp:
This same Ecuador that Defeated both Brazil and Argentina en route to qualifying for the worldcup?...I'd take that thank you very much.

don't mind him. the matches Ballack played and won in 2002 was Paraguay Cameroon, said I Arabia rep. of Ireland, America and south Korea.

raumdeuter:
Ballack was one of the best midfielders in the CL, He was the undisputed best midfielder at the world cup.

who gave him? Just like Sneidjer was the undisputed best midfielder in 2010 world cup.

chic2pimp:
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/news/y%3D2006/m%3D6/news%3Dbudweiser-man-the-match-john-terry-eng-14289.html&ved=0ahUKEwj51Oabx7rYAhXNhrQKHdaoBos4ChAWCB8wAQ&usg=AOvVaw16nOFglyLFO7JhBFdxi4wv

JOHN TERRY MOTM 2006

JOHN TERRY 2006 WORLD CUP TEAM OF THE TOURNAMENT.

him don run. lols

chic2pimp:
I don leave am for you. When you start hearing the names of those aforementioned players, you know it's time to back out.

dayo na comedian walahi

raumdeuter:
How can Zidane be better than him when Zidane barely played at the world cup? And France crashed out of the group stages

world cup is not the only thing that happened in 2002. Zidane won something prestigious with his iconic goal. what did Ballack won in 2002. it's not Zidane fault he was injured.

raumdeuter:
These were the games that won Kaka the Balon dor and undisputed best player in Europe and you use clear eye to say gattuso was better than Kaka vs Man utd

oga Kaka was phenomenal in the first leg at old Trafford when he turn Evra and Heinze inside out to score two important goals. the second leg was Gattusos match. why do you like arguing for nothing. he bossed the match completely.

raumdeuter:
You mean he did better than Seedorf and Kaka in that game?

Yes Dayo.

chic2pimp:
I thought we were having a proper debate?...Why allow it to descend into a comedy skit?

i thought he has changed this new year.

raumdeuter:
Korea eliminated many top teams in the world cup and it took Ballack to stop them. That is the fact

That doesn't make him the best midfielder that year. Zidane was better than him.

raumdeuter:
Football authority seeing Slovenia vs Germany

I told you its was an oversight this man, Paraguay was in the same group with Slovenia and south Africa I mistaken then for Slovenia. didnt you mention that Germany won five world cups. you don't have any good defence for my facts. you are just holding on to straws.

raumdeuter:
Metzelder was better than Terry Friedrich and Howedes would be in the same ballpark. Even jesters like Mertersacker and Mustafi

you must be joking right?

raumdeuter:
In that game Seedorf Kaka Nesta performed better than Gattuso in that game

It's a lie dayo. Gattuso's performance in that second leg was the best by all an sundry for years. he bossed the midfield that day completely.

raumdeuter:
You obviously werent old enough to watch in 2002 or remember thats why you will say Germany beat Slovenia at the world cup

lol see this one I watched USA 1994. By 2002 I was already a football authority.

raumdeuter:
Germany played Slovenia in which competition? That is why you should do your research atimes when engaging me on football matters

The South Korea was the team that eliminated Spain Portugal and Italy. it took the genius of Ballack to eliminate them.

What did Zidane do at the world cup?

sorry Paraguay, they are all useless team, whether Slovenia or Paraguay infact I watched the game olive r Neuville scored a late goal I don't need any research its an oversight. you mentioned that Germany win 5 world cup, I ignored it as it was clearly a minor error.
South Korea Cheated massively to reach semi-final, their match versus Germany they were in party mood and did not bother to show up, I watched that match. Brazil was the first proper opposition they met and were well beaten.
Zidane won the champions league in 2002 with the goal which still stands today as the best goal in champions league final. he was injured before the world cup and only played half fit versus Denmark when they are already eliminated. Sneidjer won the treble with inter and reached the world cup final as the best player for Netherlands, why don't you say he is the best in 2010 above Messi and Ronaldo? you logic is amazing.

The only notable thing Ballack did then was to play in the "Neverkusen" side.

raumdeuter:
Big games like what? Games without names?

I mentioned a champions league semi-final vs Manchester United. or is that not a big game?

popizaino:
Gattuso will also point to big games he won with big performances which ballack won't be able.so Gattuso is better than ballack.

degea better than Manuel neur
victor valdes better than Manuel neur too

no but honestly I am not joking oo . Ballack is not a better player than Gattuso. Rino was a tank during his days, one of the best in his position for decades.

raumdeuter:
His performance on the field. made him the best midfielder in Europe. Solid performance in the CL and in the world cup made him the best midfielder not ammasing votes in polling booths

He is not the best midfielder in the world then. Germany played Slovenia, USA and South Korea enroute to the finals. their first proper opposition Brazil, they were roundly beaten. even Nigeria can beat those teams. Ballack was not better than Zidane for example in 2002. Ballack is not a better footballer than Gattuso.

raumdeuter:
He played and did what? How and watch Leverkusen of 2002 or Germany of 2002 world cup and come back to compare him to Gattuso

Ballack was motm in the games played. Quarter, semi before he sacrificed himself for his team to play the final.

Gattuso was a mainstay not the best player not even a top 3 player in that Milan side.

HOW am I degrading Gattuso by saying he isn't on the level of Ballack? If I say Suarez isn't on the level of Messi or lewandoski isn't on the level of Ronaldo am I degrading them?

In 2002, Ballack was the best midfielder in the whole of Europe, which year can we say Gattuso was something like that.

who made him the best midfielder in the whole of Europe in 2002? oh this is no longer a pooling booth award abi

raumdeuter:
Leverkusen vs Liverpool 2002 CL quarters second leg

Leverkusen vs Man Utd at Old trafford

Leverkusen played one of the greatest football teams in the final, Madrid Galacticos

World cup Second round, quarter final semi final

Show me something Gattuso has done on this level

didn't Gattuso also play in the World cup 2nd round, quarter final and semi-final? and even final and won. he was a mainstay of the Milan team that won 2 out of the 3 champions league final from 2003-2007.
I am even surprised you are degrading Rino Gattuso. the guy was one of the best defensive midfielders in the past 3 decades. what are you even saying? what has Ballack done really that Rino had not done?