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Ibime:
Yes Aguero is better than Lukaku and Utd don't have answer to KDB and Silva.

Besides Alexis will need one year to gel like Pep.

lolz dayo your words have a way of dealing you a bad one in future.

raumdeuter:
So Mourinho didnt know his age when he was buying a 36yr old striker?

He knew. which warranted his replacement, his long injury lay off made it more justifiable. for bravo he was benched by even am older second choice keeper who is now in Chelsea from city on free transfer. that's a quintessential flop.

raumdeuter:
If Zlatan was great Mourinho would not go splash 75M on another striker, even the times this season when he was fit, he was sitting on the bench. between Mid November and late December that is like Bravo right there

An old purchase that both coaches gambled on flopped and you have to buy a newer younger one for a high fee

Herrera was a decent player under LvG, Fosu Mensah was breaking into the team and now on loan

Januzaj flopped outside Man Utd, Iheanacho flopped outside City after initial promise

your points are laughable.
so mourinho should not replace a 36 year old who is out for nearly a year. even if he is Messi, if he gets injured and wil be out for 10 months you need a replacement. Zlatan replacement is not performance based. Bravo's is.
Zlatan did not flop its a non issue. Bravo flopped.
Zlatan is a one year stop gap and have solved his purpose, you don't quickly start a player that is out for 10 months. Bravo can for 17 millions and failed bravo wasn't replaced due to injury. Zlatan was replaced due to injury even till now he haven't recovered. Don't equate Zlatan with Bravo. he performed better than every city's player before getting injured. Bravo was the worst keeper in the league before being replaced.

Herrara wasn't called up for NT then. Jose helped him to it.
Januzaj failed before he met mourinho. Iheanacho failed after he met pep.

raumdeuter:
1. Who are Man Utd new players?
2, You have full backs under 30yrs use them. No excuse there
3. Mourinho killed Mikitarayan a 30M Pounds signing, Herrera, Fosu-Mensah, Depay and Januzaj

1.Pogba, Bailly, Matic Lukaku, and soon Sanchez. that's half of the team in as starters. a lot of gelling is needed. and our prospective 200m pounds new full backs as the ones we have now are over 30.

2. the younger ones are not good enough. Jose met them at united. so if Pellegrini had signed Azubuike Egwuekwe for city before left, Pep will use them because they are young .irrespective of their ability. dayo make up your mind.

3. Mkhitaryan? ?? Are u serious?? If a "killed" player can earn a direct swap deal with a world class player like Sanchez, then Jose need to kill more players. for example, can you swap 30m Bony for Sanchez?
mensah is developing well at palace and is touted be the heir to replace Valencia, you goofed here dayo. the last 2 are deadwoods before Jose came.

raumdeuter:
How is that Iheanacho faring in Leicester? Is he starting? Januzaj didnt start outside Man Utd, you absolve Mourinho, Iheanacho doesnt start outside City you blame Guardiola. Both Januzaj and Iheanacho were hot prospects, they didnt live up to their initial promise even with their new coaches they have both been sold and are still flops at their new abodes

So when are we going to get to Depay?

So is Herrera starting now? Gundogan has been injured at some time in the beginning of the season yet has 200less mins than Herrera

So Mourinho didnt know Zlatans age when he signed him? Bravo is what Zlatan is to Man Utd, An old transfer who ended up flopping

oga quit turning upandan. Zlatan started when fit and didn't flop. Bravo started and flopped, he is now fit but not starting. he is a city flop. Zlatan is a united success.
Gundogan status did not change when he joined city. Herrara got his national team cap when he met mourinho.
Depay failed at united before mourinho came.

Januzaj failed pre Mourinho, He never started a game for mourinho, he is no longer a great prospect when mourinho arrived. the hottest prospects in City and united were Iheanacho and Rashford respectively,. Mourinho upgraded his talent to the level of a champion's league semi-finalists while pep killed his own talent. Iheanacho failed at Leicester because pep has killed his psychology. Januzaj and Iheanacho are not analogous. Rashford and Iheanacho are comparable.

hardeycute:
Dayo can be frustrating sometimes but you don't argue facts.

Jesus started a PL game before getting injured although games leading to that he was being benched

you are talking nonsense. who is city's top strike? name city's first eleven.

raumdeuter:
Jesus is not a starter but has the similar number of stats as Martial who is a starter? Explain how that works

Bye bye. you don enter factory setting.

1. Man U needs to gel with their new players
2. until we replace our over 30s full backs we and the replacements gel we are still short.
3. Pep killed Iheanacho Jose developed Rashford the same manner pep did to a 46m pounds signing who played UCL semi-final last season.

raumdeuter:
How is it gibberish when stats here are showing us Martial has only started one more game than Jesus. Yet one is a starter one isnt?

Jesus is not a starter. Aguero is City's top striker dayo and you know.

raumdeuter:
How is Jesus not a starter and Martial is?

Jesus has started 19 games this season played similar number of minutes as Martial who has started 20 games this season

Jesus 12 EPl starts
Martial 13 EPL starts

Jesus 4 CL starts
Martial 4 CL starts

Jesus 3 Carling Cup starts
Martial 3 Carling cup starts

http://www.espnfc.com/player/181140/anthony-martial
http://www.espnfc.com/player/217289/gabriel-jesus
You see why stats matter

gibberish. how many league matches Jesus has started in the last 10 when fit, and how many martial has started.
I have named city's first eleven, Jesus is not there. you name united first eleven, without Martial. oga Jesus is not a starter it's a common knowledge. stop turning upandan and running away from the main point

raumdeuter:
Thats like saying Bernado Silva has featured in all games and making 33 appearances this season. Currently Rashford is developing at the rate Bernardo is developing

Iheanacho was like Januzaj, Nothing stopped Mourinho from recalling Januzaj and playing him just like he did to Fosu Mensah, WHats going on with Herrera too? Destroyed

Zlatan was a waste. If you have to spend 75M on his position. Zlatan is the Bravo of Man utd, A failed gamble

Dayo you are a joker. it seems you are entering your factory mode now. Zlatan was a waste?? you replace a 36 year old who is injured for 10 months? that means he is a waste? may be he will play with crutches. dayo be kiaful!!!

before mourinho Herrara was ignored by spanish NT, it's under mourinho that he got his first senior cap, and currently Herrara has started more matches and played more minutes that Gundogan.

Fosu mensah did not fail on loan making 2 appearances a season in Dortmund, Januzaj failed in Dortmund and failed to start in Sunderland a team adjudged to be the worst in Premier league era. Iheanacho was a hot prospect without any record of failure just like Rashford. Jose suceeded in nurturing his own, Pep killed his. if mourinho could be developing Rashford an academy graduate, at the rate at which pep is developing a 46m pounds signing who played UCL semi-final last season as a key player. then he needs to be knighed considering his counterpart Iheanacho failed under the same Pep.

raumdeuter:
if Jesus is not a starter then can we say Martial is not a starter since they have played similar number of minutes in all comps this season

This is despite Jesus missing the last 3 and half games injured

MY man don't be funny. Jesus is not a starter. Aguero, Sane and Sterling are starters in Attack, Fernadinho, KDB and Silva are starting MFs. Martial is currently the undisputed best united attacking player and have started All the Matches in the past months, apart from when he had a knock during Xmas. please don't try to be slippery here all of us know the truth.

raumdeuter:
What opposite did Jose do to Rashford. If you are looking for development see what Pep did to Sterling and Sane. Not Rashford who isnt a starter currently

Zlatan was a supreme hit where? He has barely played a ful game this season and its January. Linjollof flourishing where? If Lindelof is flourishing then Danilo is also flourishing no be so

He is not a starter but has featured in all the games and stated a lot Making 31 appearances so far in all competitions, he doesn't start often now because of the undeniable ability of martial. Pep shipped

Iheanacho. he killed his confidence and destroyed him.
Zlatan was a hit when fit scoring 28 goals in 42 app for at 36. it's not his fault he is now injured. you can't deny his signing was a supreme success.

raumdeuter:
Sane Ederson and Jesus. in Man Utd only Pogba who actually grew up in English football academy

Jesus is not a starter.
this is city starting eleven.

Ederson, stone, Otamendi, Delphi, walker, Fernadinho, Silva, KDB, sterling, Sane and Aguero.

by Mr logic I will add Miki, Zlatan and lindelof

raumdeuter:
Should we also look at Zlatan Lindelof and Mikitaryan who were bought by Mourinho. Iheanacho has broken into the team before Pep came

Iheanacho = Januzaj, Not forgetting Depay

Januzaj is already a flop before Jose arrived. equate Iheanacho with Rashford they busted in the scene the same time on the same footing and the media were even comparing them. Pep couldnt develop the kid handed to him. Jose did the opposite.

Zlatan was a supremely a hit and Lindelof is flourishing I deliberately don't want to add them as among inexperienced EPL recruit. the way you are forcing in gundogan, cos they are not starters

raumdeuter:
You are not consistent, you were the one who brought the issue of "Mourinho didnt buy" and I gave you a list of those Pep didnt buy too.

The point is that Man Utd have a better team. More players in their current 11 with EPL experience, More of the new players have played with Mourinho for longer, Mourinho has yong options as full backs. Unlike Pep where more of his buys dont have EPL experience, most of his buys have never played under Pep before and are not used to his tctics so have to learn. Peps full backs last season were all old over 30 and not desired by top clubs after they left

I am consistent. of peps first 11. on Sane needs gelling by it logic. the other being a GK.

mourinhos first eleven Pogba also needs gelling.
so wants the difference.

raumdeuter:
Nolito = Schneiderlin
Mangala = Rojo
Iheanacho = Januzaj
Bravo = Valdes


We still have room for Depay and others

He improved Rojo.

and none of those players are Joses recruit. pep brought Nolito and Bravo, and Iheanacho broke into the first team proper on his arrival just like Rashford. on Joses arrival look at the 2 of them now.

raumdeuter:
Pep didnt buy Delph too, he didn't buy Otamendi too nor Fernandinho KDB Silva Aguero or Sterling
If you count Bailly who hasnt played much of a role this season due to injury, can we also list Mendy and Gundogan?

Jose didn't buy Mata, Lingard, Martial, Rojo, and Young, Jones. but he performed magic on them. Gundogan is not first team

raumdeuter:
Bailly has been injured for how long, Its like mentioning Mendy.

He has been in and out of the team. Mendy is on a longer spell.

raumdeuter:
How can they not be good enough, they are quite young, let Mourinho perform his managerial magic on them and make them transform to decent full backs. At least both of them would be better full backs than Delph

just like pep performed on Nolito, Bravo, Iheanocho, Mangala and Bony

raumdeuter:
Thats an inferior attempt.

First you claimed Man Utd need full backs but I just proved that they have 2 full backs under 30 unlike City of last season

Next you claimed some players need to adjust to the league. You gave 2 in City's first 11, But you cant give us any for Man Utd

the full backs you mentioned are not good enough, mourinho did not buy them, hence the usage of over 30 makeshift full backs. Didnt Bailly and pogba come from another league?

raumdeuter:
All over 30 and too old. Thats why Most of them cannot get decent clubs after leaving City

Darmian is young. Shaw is young and are good ages for full backs

they are not good enough.

raumdeuter:
So City has 2 players who have never played EPL before joining City? How many does Man utd have this season in their first 11

Mention the players that need to gell in Man Utd to the new league

Eric Bailly and Pogba. for City its only Sane and Ederson ( a goal keeper)

diggz:
Your head dey dere...

lolz he thinks he is the only person that knows how to turn amala

raumdeuter:
Mangala is not a full back, Peps 4 full backs last season were Sagna CLichy Kolarov and Zabaleta they were all old. Mourinho has 2 young full backs he can use

A lot of the players Pep bought are not from the EPL and are not used to the league unlike Alexis, Lukaku Matic who are EPL veterans

Matic and Lukaku have played under Mourinho before and are used to his tactics

Among the Current city fist eleven only Sane and Ederson (a GK), Stones and Walker are peps recruits. 2 of them have also Played in the EPL multiple seasons. so effectively, it's only Sane and Ederson that needs gelling. why will the same GELLING process not also applicable to united? or is there a relaxer in city's training ground?

raumdeuter:
Your players you mentioned are EPL veterans who have played in the league For multiple seasons.

You have young full backs like Shaw and Damian.

So why can't you be on the same level as city

they are deemed not good enough. why didn't pep play Mangala is he not young?

the so called EPL veterans are coming in from other teams they need to gel

raumdeuter:
You only bought one player not several players like City

Will your gelling can be like Guardiola where you will be leading the league by 12 points while gelling?

apart from gelling , several new players like Lukaku, Matic, And now Sanchez. we are playing with over 30s full backs we need to replace them, and their replacements will need to gel together for us to be said to be in the same level with city.

cc: patrickmuf, Lana1. eph1. diggz

joeace2020:
You mean this. Look at martial and Lukaku but he decides to shoot...Sometimes i think the dude peaked too early and hasn't learned some fundamental aspects necessary to his game.

the problem is if you try to discipline him now like and toughen him up like the way Jose did to martial and Shaw, the English media will draw their swords to slay their easy target Mourinho. well I think he will still come good, he has talent obviously.

eph12:
Where did you see me claiming my money is there? Which fact am I distorting?

you are really replying that mad man?

ok let the back and forth be settled now.

Neymar1095:
it will be so Sweet if Sanchez to United collapse ........Noisy neighbors

I tot united have been magad, why are u praying for united not to be magad?

folks still rely on goal.com and daily mail for reliable info? in 2018? SMH

Chelseafan1:
Omo, 500k is much sha.

Sanchez is not Mabppe neither is he Neymar.

When Hazard is still on 200 and has delivered the league twice for Chelsea, 500k is way too much for a 29 yo but the guy go deliver o, Man utd go hot sha if una mumu coach no try limit these attacking players again.

Pogba, Sanchez, Martial, Mata, Iyalaya oooo.

yes you are not hating