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Joezinho:
Antony, Onana ,Casemiro,Mount, Eriksen, L.Martinez, Malacia, Højlund…

Weghorst, Amrabat, Reguilón, Sabitzer, Evans, Bayındır, Dúbravka, Butland….

Just look at the players Ten Hag signed and loaned in at United.😀 That guy should be in jail alongside murtough for crimes against football..

If not for injury Licha and Mount are actually good signings.

Patrickmuf1:
He has to go...Dalot has been trash since last season but this idiotic Portuguese coach had the guts to take Amad off for Dalot.

Why didn't he sell Bruno too the Saudis? Nonsense

raumdeuter:
To successfully play that 343 you need a DM and a 2 way CM who can defend and attack too. More like a box to box

People like Lampard Ballack

When Cuntay used it at Chelsea he had Matic play DM and Kante doing the CM work

Bruno is not a 343 CM. He doesnt have the engine and doesnt have the defensive nous for it

In a 343 McTominay is better than Bruno
Cc CapitalCe

Amorim must be a fraud for keeping Bruno

Tochex101:
Tension wan kill Amorim...

For holding that £100m from Saudi for Bruno he deserves a sack

I like Bruno oo, but I will keep saying it that we might regret not cashing out on Bruno.
Ruben Amorim is a fool for not approving the sale of Bruno

Mrviktor:
I'm.. more interested in Rooney

JJ Gabriel looks more promising than Kai Rooney

Bjteensdes24:
I think there was a time fans were clamoring for beautiful footie, they saw that today with improvement and system being implemented unlike when Ten Hag was here instead of them to support and take a back seat, they are here opposing the coach they didn’t appoint but the board appointed themselves. If they don’t sack him, you can help us type his sack letter yourselves. But, I know we will get better even if you guys don’t want us to calling yourself a fie hard fan

He had the chance to play beautiful football last season, this season is for wins and points

Oasis007:
.....yeah! Though its unlikely we are getting a new GK this window except Onana is sold.

Ugarte is ùsélêss, hopefully Mainoo gonna be better. Ain't sure our business is not over yet in the tw.

Why do we have to sell Onana to buy a new Keeper, send him to the U21s together with Bayindir and forget them there until they are ready to move. We need to be more brutal and ruthless. Just Buy another keeper and stick him to the reserves.
Hojlund wey de do agidi, shey de don shut am out of the team. He was trying to draw us back, like he want to fight for his place. Man United is not a club for fighting for place.

afrodoc2:
Most of agreed at that time that we should have accepted the Saudi offer. That money pays for Baleba. My belief is that Amorim did not want to lose such a major loyalist and countryman and of course a dressing room leader.


We somehow found ourselves in a situation where we have 3 goalies and none is good enough to be 1st choice.

Heaton can stay but Onana and Bayindir should be Offloaded if we are a serious team. Ferguson had Tim Howard for just 1 season or thereabouts, immediately, Carrol too couldn’t cut it, be binned both of them, and got VDS and Kusczaks immediately. Going into a season with a suspect GK will cost you a minimum of 15/20 points a season.

As for Bruno. He is still good and can win games on his day, but we need to cash in now and restock all these loyal and leader thing doesn’t count. Get good players and win games. Yamal at 17 is still winning games on his own. We have enough leaders in the team. Man United as an institution is an albatross of itself. Always pandering to emotions rather than pragmatism.

afrodoc2:
Going into this season with no CM improvements and the same set of hideous GKs from last season is like pouring water into a basket. An exercise in futility. If they are not buying a new GK they had better recall Vitek from his loan.

During the off season. Saudi team bid for Bruno 100m, this hideous club refused to cash in. Someone that is not suited for the Pivot role. We need to immediately go and sign a Competent GK I mean very very Competent GK.
We need to also be sending players to the U21s if they refuse to go.

ChristineC:
what has he got to do with the loss?

A serious team will sell Bruno during the off season and put that money in getting Baleba and Donnarumma. We have no use for Bruno in this line up. Baleba and Mainoo is the perfect Pivot.

This will force Onana to seek another club. For Bayindir to go or send him to U21. Get Kepa as back up.

Any serious club would have collected 100m pounds for a 31 year old who doesn't fit the system.

Man United will regret not selling Bruno when we had the chance.

We are avoiding the hard truth. We supposed to have collected that 100m from the Saudis for Bruno and push it straight for Baleba and a goal keeper. But this emotional club can not just be Ruthless.
A pivot of Mainoo and Baleba is the key.

Spending all that money only to go into the season with that disjointed pivot and Rubbish GKs is just senseless. Amorim will use his hand sack himself with these Portuguese favouritism.

Shey na this Cherki our fans say get bad attitude? Ok oooo.

TrebleChamp:
I support a loan move too, but to a team that would give him regular football and help him develop properly.

Thats why I suggest Switzerland

TrebleChamp:
if United sign Sesko or Watkins and Rasmus stays, Obi will join the under 21 next season...

Send him on loan to that our sister club in Switzerland. I have said this before, as a striker he needs to reach at least 21/22 before he can come up to speed as a premier league player. He still have 3/4 years to catch up.

CrystalTiger:
Unpopular Opinion-- Tom Heaton is better than Onana..

Its not unpopular

Where is that guy that always insults Dorgu? People wey no sabi anything for football de tire me to argue with

larride:
A front 3 or Cunha, Sesko and Mbeumo won't be bad.

Amad should play the RWB role.

All those Dalot nonsense must stop this season

Dalot is a useless guy. He Amorim should make sure he phase out that bum of a guy

MRTA7:
He wont get a united level salary but he can probably still get a 80-100k pw salary as a free agent.

If he is benched for a year without any action. Nobody will pay him any reasonable Sign on or a hefty salary next year. Left to me, bench him the whole year and mske him attend trainings with the U21s.

Yemike:
They're like Man utd, money that should've been spent on new signings is being used to pay wages.
They have Mane, Brozovic, Telles, Dhuran and the likes tho'.

Telles is no longer there and Dhuran just moved to Fenerbache

Enzo5:
not to defend him but al hilal also built that squad with top player bought with serious money, and the game was close. Not a surprise to those who have been watching CWC, the competition is tough

Apart from Ruben Neves, Milinkovic-Savic, Bono, Lodi, Coulobaly and Cancelo, who are these top players? All these players will be surplus to requirements in most top half EPL teams.
Lodi couldnt cut it in Forest, when they were fighting relegation.
Neves was at wolves nothing special, Cancelo was offloaded by Barca, Coulibaly was offloaded by then bottom half Chelsea. Bono is good but he is just a GK a and declining. SMS is good too but he is past his prime.


Guardiola spent all those money to challenge for EPL. They looked average throughout the match.

Fraudiola don cast. Spent over 400m from January till now, cant be Al Hilal of Saudi. Lol

Wait, I just realised that Osimhen's contract is just remaining 1 year. No wonder clubs don't want to pay Napoli the transfer fee. I don't see anyone paying Napoli 70m for a player who only has 1 year contract, except the Saudis.

TheLequte:
There’s no need for long stories. In your first and second posts on this issue, you were asking Amorim for a title race next season or get sacked.





Now, you’re shifting goal posts.

If it takes over 90 points to win the title next season (like it has for like 5 of the last 6 seasons), you think the squad that garners an average of 66 points per season to suddenly accumulate 75 to 80 points— even if they only managed a measly 42 points last season and had the fourth worst goal scoring record in the league?

Like I said several times before, the realistic expectation is too 4 to top 6. I don’t have time for long arguments.

I didn’t say or get sacked in the title race post. Read carefully, i was saying he should be competing for the title ideally, and that not really crazy.

He should be getting top 4 at least or get sacked was my initial post, but after conversation with Afrodoc2. I agreed that Europa league place with progressive football is appropriate. That was the reason why I pegged the acceptable range to 65-75 points. Mind you that i am expecting this target given that we have less fixture congestion.

I didn’t say, 75-80, i said 65-75. If the champions finish like 95 points and we get 70points. That will be an acceptable range

Leyqute:
When was the last time United finished 10-15 points from first position in the last 12 years?

Mourinho finished 19 points behind City by the way. Ole finished 12 points behind City.

Those were the two best seasons we’ve had post SAF.

But you want a squad that just finished 15th to double their points tally and surpass this feat—- because they play once per week.

You think the City that is buying players like atarodo and Arsenal and the other teams that finished above us will be looking like mumu while we overtake them abi?

The realistic finish should be top 4 or top 6 with a good and improved playing style. Anything above that (like title race) na jara.

ETH came in after a disappointing season had just a preseason, lost first 2 games due to trying to find the best formation. He then went ahead to finish 9 points behind treble winning City. That season we reached FA cup final and won the League Cup. We also reached Europa league Quarter finals. We played 10 matches in Europa alone that season, reached the final of the other 2 competitions and finished on 75 points. we lost a lot of players due to fixture congestions, He had to deal with Ronaldo late arrival to camp, and Sancho issues. If Amorim cannot muster 65-75 points at least this season without fixture congestion, after the 6 months of squad assessment and pre season, then sacking him will not be enough punishment.

Mourinho finished 19 points behind City, because City got 100 points. The 2 seasons that Ole finished he had 66pts and 74points. Van Gaal got 70pts and 66 points.
We are not reducing our standards because Amorim was atrocious to get us to 15th. My point is if he fails to make Europe through the league and get at least 65 points next season. He must be sacked.

Mrviktor:
Wetin dey give osimen mind say big team go sign am
Or that
Galatasaray go fit afford am.

It will end in another loan

We can sign him on loan.

Leyqute:
So you’re demanding that a new manager who just had a disastrous season achieve what no other manager has achieved since SAF retired next season… even though the club is miles behind the competition in terms of recruitment project phase and so on… and if he doesn’t do that he should be sacked. Ba?

Okay sir.

I said within striking distance bro. 10/15 points difference from the top is not too much. ETH, Ole and Mourinho were not far away from 1st at some points. Infact ETH finished with 75 points in his first season. Amorim already had 7 months to access the squad. If he cant be within 10 points within 1st place, he must leave. Thats about 65-75 points, thats not asking too much TBH.

Considering we are playing 1 game a week, Next season Amorim should be able to get at least 10/14 home wins vs teams like Bournemouth, Palace, Everton, Brighton, Forest, Fulham, Sunderland, Villa, Brentford, Leeds, Burnley, Spurs, West Ham, Wolves. And avoid defeats in at least 4/6 home games vs Chelsea, City, Arsenal, Liverpool and Newcastle. No home heavy defeats to mid table teams. If he can’t achieve this, he should be sent packing, this is Manchester United. His honeymoon/ acclimatisation period is over, now is business time.

afrodoc:
Top half alone is not good enough.

He has to make Europe through the league while playing good football. I expect Top 4 and might be okay with Top 6 is the football looks good and there are signs it will get better.

Even if he makes Top 4 with unsustainable jaguda football I won’t be okay with keeping him. Jose and Ole came 2nd in that fashion and even ETH came 3rd.

On reflection top 6 with sustainable pattern of game like you said is ok, but the expectation will rise the following season.

afrodoc:
Top 4 is different from the title challenge you mentioned earlier sha.

If title challenge is the target for next season they should just sack him now. We finished 30-40 points below teams who are buying players that are as good or better than our players.

The teams that finished dozens of points above us are not standing still and it would take more than 1 window to catch up with them.

I am expecting a Top 4 finish or at the very worst Europa League qualification through the league (not FA Cup, Carabao Cup qualification). The football MUST also improve SIGNIFICANTLY.

I had 2 comments, the earlier one, I said if he fails to make top 4 after signing Gyokeres for example and replaced Onana, he should be sacked. I still stand by that, considering we will be playing one match a week.

Then my second comment, I said he should be challenging for the title, I didnt say he should be sacked if he is not challenging. If for instance after 19 matches in December the 1st position is at 45 points, and we are 35 points, and at 2nd-6th position, I will not be calling for his sack. But, i hear some people saying just top half of the table is OK. Top half is not acceptable for me. We have to be in the mix for top 4. If not sack him immediately.

Leyqute:
Una don start with una expectations. Take it easy abeg.

If the team gels well and the new guys boost our goal tally, we could finish near the top end of the table. If we find ourselves in a title race, it would be a pleasant surprise and by no means should anyone mandate a league title victory before the new signings kick a ball, all because we play a game a week until September or October.

If we are not in the top 4, and within the striking distance of the 1st position. Like 10 points or even 15 points depending on the performance of the 1st position. If he not there, I will be firmly Amorim out.