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Jamiuokolaa:
The Portuguese league must be very terrible

Mehn!!!

Bruno Lage was sacked at Wolves, he went to Benfica with 7 points behind Sporting. And nearly won the league. I don't think Amorim is an EPL material. We need to sack him now.

patrickmuf:
Nope, take Shaw off let Mazraoui take his place and bring on Mainoo so that Amad can play as the RWB... We need to take the game to Chelsea because if they score the next goal, this group of players will be too scared to see out the rest of the game.

Bring Mainoo for who?

I like Amad, but he has been atrocious. Take him out and bring in Mainoo.
Take Sesko out and bring in Cunha

izzou:
[color=royalblue]I pity Bayandir.

He would be the next scape goat[/color]

Nobody is blaming Bayindir. Shaw had a hand in all the goals we conceded.
Then the biggest culprit is the manager

During the Transfer window. Al hilal brought 100m for our 31 year old captain, We refused. We will regret not selling Bruno for that Amount

Luke Shaw lol.

chrisley024:
could be due to fatigue, I think Case played in international game

He was not Fatique. He came back early after he got a yellow card and was ruled out for tthe second match.

See Donnarunmma

Mrviktor:
Sold rashford.. garnacho..Anthony..

But kept Urgate

And Shaw

Oasis007:
.....he is not. How I wish its Dalot that starts the game, we would be trailing by 3 goals to nil this half. Dorgu gonna smoke him then use him flex bokku bread.

RB ooo, defence oo, and football sense oo, Mazraoiu can be better, but Dalot is better in the WB position, he is a better attacking threat than Mazraoiu

Unpopular Opinion, Dalot is better than Mazraoiu in RWB

Amorim is hitting that point where his services will no longer be required. He should take Bruno and Dalot with him

Onkoolos:
Zirkzee is the only option now!!!

Mazraoiu need to come off. Amad in the RWB then Zikzee should come in and link up with Dorgu

Mrviktor:
Dorgu has never crossed any ball that beat the first man

In almost over 1 year with us

He crossed the one Amad should have controlled but decided to do a bicycle kick, why are you lying

I am losing patience with Amorim.

Danielnino00:
How come CAF didn't adopt this method for the 2017 AFCON qualifiers when Chad pulled out and our group was disqualified from presenting a second best runner up??

I saw it too, that might be because Even if its adopted it wont still matter but CAF are just too erratic they are not a serious organisation.

This was adopted for the 2010 world cup qualification. This was clear. If you open that link you will notice that
Angola 🇦🇴, SouthAfrica and CapeVerde got more points than Mozambique and others in the main table but after adjusting it, the table changed. That 2017 AFCOn qualification is an anomaly. That's why I said our football federation big wigs and technical committee need to bring this to CAF notice incase they dont know already. I can guarantee you that if we win our remaining matches and that method is adopted, we are going to the playoffs 100% , I have analysed all the groups, only Gabon is out of reach technically, and May be Cameroon considering they only got 4 points from the bottom team. The rest of the groups standing are still clearly in our favour. We are firmly still in the competition. All these demoralising talks will not do us good now. NFF needs to get to work.

They need to pressure CAF to punish SouthAfrica and Pressure them too to adopt the best time tested methods pointing out historical evidences in both CAF and UEFA

minfelix:
im just so irritated at many people here who has this mumu emotion of “because we started poorly then we dont deserve the world cup”

abeg make i hear word biko, today CIV has same afcon trophy with us, they started very very poorly and won the afcon same with Portugal winning 2016 Euro….
OGA HEAR ME AND HEAR ME CLEARLY, until there is no more option to exploit we will still keep pushing through, if there is any loop hole that is calculate-able to enable us qualify then we must explore it…
1. FIFA has to be fair to do the needful
2. Tanzania deserve fairness to compete with other second best teams

small thing we go start dey hear
“let us forget about tue world cup yen yen yen….
New caledonia
Curacao
Bolivia
and every teams wants to be at the world cup, we too wanna be there,wether by onfield qualification or off-field qualification….
make anyone wey don lost hope rest, abeg
SA
NIG
BEN
RWA
all can still qualify as group leader…Nigeria just show Rwanda how to play SA in their home(Fight for everyball and give yourselves blow on the pitch)

Rwanda will be fancying their chances to shock SA….2 games is enough to change a direction

This was when Caf adopted it during the 2012 AFCON qualifications when one team withdrew

minfelix:
im just so irritated at many people here who has this mumu emotion of “because we started poorly then we dont deserve the world cup”

abeg make i hear word biko, today CIV has same afcon trophy with us, they started very very poorly and won the afcon same with Portugal winning 2016 Euro….
OGA HEAR ME AND HEAR ME CLEARLY, until there is no more option to exploit we will still keep pushing through, if there is any loop hole that is calculate-able to enable us qualify then we must explore it…
1. FIFA has to be fair to do the needful
2. Tanzania deserve fairness to compete with other second best teams

small thing we go start dey hear
“let us forget about tue world cup yen yen yen….
New caledonia
Curacao
Bolivia
and every teams wants to be at the world cup, we too wanna be there,wether by onfield qualification or off-field qualification….
make anyone wey don lost hope rest, abeg
SA
NIG
BEN
RWA
all can still qualify as group leader…Nigeria just show Rwanda how to play SA in their home(Fight for everyball and give yourselves blow on the pitch)

Rwanda will be fancying their chances to shock SA….2 games is enough to change a direction

Denmark originally did not qualify for Euro 92, Yuguslavia withdrew and they were drafted in. They went on to win the competition. Italy drew their 3 group stage matches in WC 82. They later won the competition. All these talks are baseless.

Look at the image below, UEFA adopted this method in 2018 World cup qualifiers to determine the ranking for the 2nd placed teams. UEFA has always been using this method when a team withdrew or whn the groups are not equal.
They also adopted it in Euro 2016. Turkey 🇹🇷 who originally got less points than Ukraine 🇺🇦 and Norway, qualified because they got just 2 points from the bottom teams. Infact Turkey benefited because Kazakhstan beat Latvia 🇱🇻 in the last game, so that game against Latvia was removed for Turkey in the 3rd placed ranking, pushing Them to qualification

So what this meant is that its left for CAF to determine, we need to get the big people in Nigeria to press the right buttons for CAF to adopt this method. UEFA has been using this method right from time.
CAF has also adopted this format during the AFCON qualifiers in 2012.

Dannyxy:
someone here was saying that we should not bother about South Africa having their points deducted again when it’s even more important now, if Lesotho gets that point, they automatically top Zimbabwe no matter what happens, and if we finish second, we go to playoffs by having just two points removed.

Nigerians need to start having critical and sharp analytics skills of North African and even South Africa when it comes to sport, we are too docile, we don’t even know how to pick on technicalities, on the global stage a lot of teams are using technical knockouts off the the pitch to give themselves an edge when they can, you think Suarez using a hand to remove a goal in a quarter finals is not technicalities, France breaking onazi legs in a game, South Africa playing 7 homes games and so many others are not technicalities, let’s be playing while teams that are smart get the edge in technicalities.

We still have a chance instead of journalists and fans to be making a point , people are saying let’s move in to Afcon, like you are so sure of winning Afcon. Very docile group, only to criticize and criticize our players that’s why NFF don’t feel the need to work, after all the defeatist will blame player and coach and move on to the next project.

AFCON that Morroco will likely win, with their current form and they are hosts. And why cant we even host AFCON? Well thats the discussion for another day.

I have draw the scenarios in all the groups, if we win our 2 matches we will overtake Benin and have enough points to overtake other groups runners up, I think only Gabon and somehow Cameroon that looks a tricky will be better placed, because they themselves got only 4 points from Eswatini, the rest of the groups most of the second placed teams trounced the bottom teams with big margins home and away. Nigeria only got 2 points from Zimbabwe, awarding Lesotho the points from SA will root Zimbabwe firmly bottom.

And trust me, I know a lot of people are doubtful, If we get into the playoffs we will beat the teams there.
In the intercontinental playoffs 2 teams will qualify and with our current FIFA rankings Bolivia and Caledonian who have qualified are below us. No European team in the playoffs, the other eligible teams from CONCACAF and Asia about to qualify are the likes of Indonesia, UAE, Trinidad and Tobago, Elsalvador, Qatar and Iraq, we are far above them in FIFA rankings so we will play only 1 match. Therefore, What is just holding us now is to pressure CAF to adopt that rule finish. Most of the NFF technical committee members don’t even know this, thats the sad part.

Dannyxy:
it will.. it has happened before, make una dey do research na.

So how is fifa going to be fair to the second team of that group? Where is the fair play if they did not get a chance, the last team of every group would have their point deducted from the second placed team, then we would have the real points. Let’s just hope we win our last two games , and Zimbabwe finish last, Nigeria goes to the play offs.

We fans and NFF need to be sharp in identifying this things, I am grateful to this technical fans that are always picking this things, they are the real MVP if we qualify. That’s why we have technical teams, but apparently the technical team of NFF don’t know their jobs, pick up this things.

Thank you very much, I was among the initial persons that identified this issue, instead of Nigerians picking up and amplifying it, we are throwing blame games up and down, in football results can go bad sometimes, its normal, the key thing is to find remedy.
Nigerians are masters of talking too much without any critical analysis, we are talking about discounting results from the bottom placed teams for fairness to equalise the group standings, the person you quoted was talking another thing. How is it now fair for the second placed team in the group that had just 5 teams, because if you award them 6 points from the withdrawn team, they would have been up there. Instead of picking things like this up, na to de do cho cho cho we sabi.

We seriously need to amplify this point and get CAF/FIFA to adopt it. If FIFA punish SA sef, Zimbabwe is guaranteed to finish last. Because Lesotho will be awarded the points

GMBOFASIA:
Even if Nigeria are in play off with team like Comoros or Eritrea how sure are you we can even beat them lol

We can beat them. You guys should stop all these talk, I know the super Eagles disappointed, but that doesn’t mean they won’t rally around and learn from their mistakes.

We seriously need to put pressure on CAF to discount the result of the last team in the group for fairness due to Eritrea withdrawal from Group E. If thats done and we win the last 2 matches we will qualify as one of the best runners up. And trust me, Nigeria will qualify because the teams that are in the playoffs are not really good. African representatives will most likely qualify to the World cup.

We need to seriously play this politics very well, CAF have adopted this method before, this can be done, but it seems our NFF is not interested in our success only to loot.

BankyGee:
Gbam... Well well well said.


Plus Benjamin Fredrick played against Rwanda, yes, he was good but any coach will want to start Ekong because of how big this game is. Even subbing out Ekong and putting Fredrick was like him saying "omo, anything wey wan happen now, make e happen, let the boy play", and now that the boy still had a solid game, I'm sure Chelle won't make that mistake again. He no dey forget and he no dey fear anybody.

Benjamin made 12 clearances o, for someone that played just 45 mins.

Bassey and Fredrick are a match made in heaven.

Benjamin Fredrick played 90mins, Bassey who was at LB, went to CB when Ekong was substituted for Onyemaechi

JohnBullMySon:
It is not clear if FIFA will follow on that. CAF did it FIFA might not.

Secondly Zimbabwe may not even end at the bottom. It could also be Lesotho. And that will potentially be a six point deduction making the whole thing meaningless.

So what then will Fifa do? We should just pray that Zimbabwe should finish last. Trust me if Nigeria make it to the playoffs they will qualify.

Elock1:
this one don pass further maths 😩
Na physics

Its not further maths bro 😀😀its easy and has been done previously. Honestly if we had won our matches this wouldn’t have been the case we should be calculating

minfelix:
it means we just have Benin to surmount

Alternatively, if we beat SA, which I must admit is unlikely and win the other 2 matches versus Lesotho away and Benin at home. We can also pressure FIFA to punish SA. For fielding an ineligible player.

minfelix:
if they decide to deduct points from all second placed teams, walai 9ja will qualify to the play off at best…lest just win our 3games and gather that 19 points and maybe hope zimbabwe remains at the bottom of the table…cos we just took 2points from them…

you see all those other teams like Gabon,Cameroon,Burkina faso and senegal queuing up in that 4place spot…the rate at which all of them will fall off that table and have Nigeria climbing them will be so brutal🤣🤣🤣🤣…cos they have all taken 6points from their various bottom place teams

That is the format that UEFA , CAF and Fifa uses previously. If they adopt that We will qualify to the play offs at least. We landed ourselves into this mess.
And if FIFA punishes SA it will give Lesotho more points and root Zimbabwe to the bottom.

minfelix:
i think the points will be deducted from all teams in that group that had played against the bottom teams and not just teams on second place

No. After the qualifying matches. The top 9 teams in the group will qualify straight to the world cup. So if for example SA is still topping the group after the last matches, they will qualify to the World cup, as well as all the other group leaders. Every other team apart from the 2nd placed teams will be eliminated.

Then All the second placed teams will be collected and ranked. But because Eritrea withdrew making Grp E to have just 5 teams. The results of the 2nd placed teams versus all the bottom placed teams will be discounted, just for the purposes of getting the best runner-ups to make it equal standing with group E.
So in Grp E, Morocco has qualified already, the Second placed team for now is Tanzania with 10pts. After the qualifiers their points gathered will be untampered because they only will have played 10 games. While for the other 8 runner ups, their results against the bottom teams in their groups will be subtracted for parity with Tanzania.
For the case of our group, if we finished 2nd and Zimbabwe remained last as they are now. If we win the rest of our matches we will have 19pts. The 2 pts we got against them will be removed, so in that ranking we will be showing as 17pts, while Tanzania will have 16pts assuming they win their remaining 2 games vs Zambia and Niger.
For B/Faso for example 2nd in Grp A with 14 pts currently behind Egypt on 19pts, If Egypt beat them on Tuesday,Egypt will qualify. So if B/Faso win their remaining matches vs S/Leone and Ethiopia. They will have 20pts. But in the 2nd placed teams ranking they will only have 14 points, because the 6 points they got from Djibouti the group’s last team will be discounted. This will be done for all runner ups except Tanzania in Group E who played less games.

I know its long, but thats how its done over the years, except if FIFa decides to change format this time which i doubt

NIGHTMARE0O7:
Its already a doctored plan from CAF president who is from SA and also rich and influencial.. but its a pity NFF didnt fight it.
For lesotho to even be in that group with SA is where the fraud started

Not just Lesotho, Zimbabwe too they both play their home matches in SouthAfrica. Well na we Bleep up, if we won our other 3 home games like other big teams do and at least draw Benin, we we would have been 2 points ahead of SA

NIGHTMARE0O7:
Guys im still asking what will hapen in that group some1 pulled out.. how will CAF judge that group.?
Becoz they wil feal cheated if their second best team dont make play offs.
Because if they played same number of matches they will be better position.

Every match against the bottom placed teams in the groups apart from the group that has 5 teams will be discounted. In the case of our group, the 2 points we got versus Zimbabwe will be removed, if we finish 2nd. For Gabon in group F, the 6 points the got from Seychelles will be discontinued. This will be done after all the matches are concluded. By then we will see who finished 2nd in all the groups and who finished last. This method has been consistently been adopted by FIFA, UEFA and CAF previously. I think if we win all our matches we will be among the best runner up 100%, but any slip ups will be dicey

Oasis007:


......see wetin Bournemouth get from the window, yet we dey claim our players are above average. LOL!

Illia Zabarnyi - PSG, £54.5m

Milos Kerkez - Liverpool, £40m

Dean Huijsen - Real Madrid, £50m

Dango Ouattara - Brentford, £42m

And they never still sell Evanilson, Semenyo, David Brooks and Kluivert. This clearly showed that Bournemouth squad last season was better than our own. On Bruno can get into that their last season first eleven, among our last season’s first squad.

aieromon:
Either it works or it doesn't work.

I choose a cup half full.

Edit: De Gea to Manchester United

Ederson was signed as a young keeper as well from Benfica.
The current Brighton GK Verbruggen was from Anderlecht he is about 21 years.

Ofcourse there are small sample sizes but the prices is not that big so can be resold. I could have prefered Emi Martinez though. He has the mentality