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funlord:
Our strike force should consist of a front 2 of lukaku and rashford for this upcoming season! Time to get back to Andy and yorkes theory of strike partnerships

I didn't say it shouldn't be front 2, what I am saying is that who and who to play that front 2 should not be decided based on this single game

olabode89:
Bros did you watch the match at all?

Tuanzebe played as part of the back 3 (LCB) and not in midfield.

I didn't say he is in midfield, moreover defenders can also supply for the attackers like how Fosu-mensah did for Martials goal.

joeace2020:
If we persist with a 3-5-2 formation that doesn't fit his qualities.

even if we play 2-7-1 formation he won't flop. Why bother replying that guy, don't you know he is a troll?

afrodoc2:
It is understandable that people want the new expensive guy Lukaku to do well but our focus should be on the well being of the ENTIRE team rather than 1 player.
Since it is acknowledged that Lukaku knows how to score goals i am not really worried about him for now cos i believe the goals will start to flow at some point.
I would have been more worried if Mikki, Fellaini, Martial and Rashford kept on last season's pattern of missing clear cut chances.

Lastly this is only pre-season guys AND the first game at that. So let us all chill.

Exactly bro , people are just taking it too personal, this is a preseason game and most of today's game is experimental so guys should chill. Like you pointed out we net another player who can give us 15-20 goals to go with the 20+ Lukaku is gonna bring, I am very sure Mata had 10+ so I am not worried about him ,my worry is Rashford,martial, Lingard, and Mkhitaryan they should be hitting double figures. I don't like Rashfords tally last season same for Martial. Pogba should also give us double figures if we relieve him of defensive duties. Our defenders should also come up with at least 5-10goals between them, Vidic can Even give you that alone. Our problem is not our target man its supporting cast that should step up.

afrodoc2:
Definitely Sanchez is the better player but not sure we have a chance to get him.

He has one year left in his contract 40-45m can get him, we can also pay him that 275k/week he is demanding or even round it up to 300k since Zlatan and Rooney are off our books. If arsenal do strong head too much, we can throw in Smalling into the deal. If perisic is 40-45m why not push for Sanchez for almost the same price. Sanchez is just 3 months older than perisic. We need to be doing impossible deals to beat the rest. Look at that Van persie transfer

pharod:
Lol..
While all that is true, Martial played as a striker alongside Lukaku. There wasn't much wing play in today's match. There are instances where he could have passed to Lukaku, but he chose to shoot. Missitaryan also missed some chances b4 he scored. Heck, Lindelof missed a wide open net and ballooned the ball into the stands... I guess that was why Mourinho told the female ESPN reporter that Lukaku played better than the people that scored even though he did not score.
He terrorized their defense but he was selfish. I think pairing Lukaku and Rashford will be way more productive than Martial. Rashidi was in god mode today.

Rashford was superb, but that first team had the chemistry the second team didn't. Lingard, Herrera,Mata and Carrick were behind him, they have played together, the other team has Pereira and tuanzebe in behind Martial and Lukaku is new. So everyone tried.

funlord:
That's why the manager is trying to get perisic in! A wingers job is simple...beat your man or 2 with your skill or pace in tight situations, attack and continuously move into the channels and float or whip in crosses for your strikers while offering any sort of protection to your full back! I don't know where martial thinks he is but united does not have time for any drama this season! Maybe a few months spent watching perisic from the bench would remind of what his duties are!

Haba too harsh to Tony na. This is just a pre season brother. Lindelof was nutmegged though for galaxy's first.

Tvegas:
This is why EPL teams may not win UCL in a long time. The unproductive competition is sickening. Dortmund freely sells players to Bayern, Madrid just bought Ceballos from Real Betis. But EPL teams will rather starve English top clubs who can win UCL of their best players . No wonder Mou complained about a difficult transfer market.

Sell to Bayern, meet them in the UCL r-16 , they will be trashed 5-1. Jose should shelve the perisic transfer and bid for Alexis, if we get him and Fabinho, then the league is done and dusted

diggz:
And you know this how?

Because he could not last season, and have not done it. He is not better than brown ideye or better, that's why Chelsea is looking desperately for a striker

EvilMetahuman:
Highlight Chelsea vs fulham
8-2


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63Nj-y3Gna8&itct=CBIQpDAYBSITCOzwvdefjNUCFRyHVQod3tcKz1IOY2hlbHNlYSBmdWxoYW0%3D&hl=en-GB&gl=NG&client=mv-google



That lovely first touch from batshuayi though.


If given the chance, batman will surpass that sofo lukaku for sure.

Lmao if every defence in the EPL is like what I just watched, Lukaku will score 200 goals a season. Even Sunshine stars of Akure will not defend like that. Batshauyi will not score up to 10 goals in any decent league. Stop deceiving yourself

INTERESTING FACTS.

Last season, Mourinho gave more Premier League time to U21 players than any other PL coach: an aggregate of 4,722 minutes. This was more than 10% higher than the next best, Sunderland with 4,239. It was just 50 minutes short of Manchester City and Liverpool combined. Worst was Palace, with 29 (no, not a typo). Chelsea had 229 PL minutes for their U21s. United led not only in total minutes for U21s, but U21 minutes measured as a percentage of total playing time and in aggregate U21 appearances.

* With the departure of thirty-something Rooney and the absence (temporary or permanent) of Zlatan, United may well open the season with one of the youngest Premier League squads. Of the six players Mourinho has brought in, only 2 were older than 24, and one of those (Zlatan) has technically left. The other four were aged 24, 23, 22 and 22. I believe that currently, the average age of the first squad is a tad under 25, though I'll stand corrected on that (and it is anyway subject to further change).

Source: opta

airmark:
Dopemu, like he didnt depend on oldies when he was at bayern with alonso, robben, ribery, lahm etc all over 30 years. Age theory is a useless theory and with majority of them gone now, he has no reason not to win epl in a grand style .

And to think this was the first eleven Fergie used in winning the EPL in 2011 it makes mockery of flopdiola's excuses.
Van see SAR 41, John O'Shea 30, Vidic 30, Ferdinand 32, Evra 30, Carrick 30, Scholes 36, Giggs 38, Valencia 26, Berbatov 30 Rooney 26.
With Nani 25 and Ji sung park 31 drifting in and out if the team
Man city first eleven last season.
Caballero 35, Clichy 31, Kompany 34, Stone23, Sagna34, Toure 33, Fernandino 32, Silva 31,Raheem sterling 22, debruyne 26, G Jesus 20.

With Leroy sane 23 and Aguero 29 drifting in and out of the team.

Which of these teams have the higher mean age. And to put into perspective that the united team above won the league again in 2013 with almost exactly the same core minus VDS for DDG 22, Berbatov for RVP 29 and O'Shea for Rafael 23. But The others age has turned to the following.

Vidic 32, Ferdinand 34, Evra 32, Carrick 32, Scholes 38, Giggs 40, Valencia 28, Rooney 28.

The age excuse from flopdiola is a tired one.

lordfalcao:
Chelsea played over 6 matches Carling cup and fa cup combine. Na this one you see? Show us matches against wolves and championship clubs..

Nawaoo can you just be consistent my man, you posted this comment few moments ago? Or is it just a hyperbole?

lordfalcao:
Jose too can't pick youths to play Carling cup ND fa cup even if its against division 20.

I don't know the division Walsall was at that time but I know they are not a non-league side. So let say they are in league 2, that will be division 4. So he played youth against at least division 4 . Tell me it's a hyperbole bros

lordfalcao:
Jose too can't pick youths to play Carling cup ND fa cup even if its against division 20.

Chelsea line-up vs Westham league cup 26/10/16.
Begovic; David Luiz, Terry (c), Cahill; Azpilicueta, Kante, Chalobah(Pedro), Aina(Hazard); Willian, Batshuayi(Costa), Oscar
Manager. Antonio conte


Walsall vs Chelsea. League Cup 25/9/2015.
Begovic Ivanovic, Terry,Cahill,Baba,Mikel,Loftus-Cheek(Maticat 72'),Ramires, Kenedy,Pedro,Remy,Falcao(Djilobodji)
Manager: Jose mourinho


So what are you saying this man?

ToyinDipo:
The way he played Varane and Morata against Barca.
Santon against Manu

Rashford against every big team, De bruyne against man u. And moratta,varane,santon and Rashford started on these occasions while those guys he mentioned just had a cameo. Hypocrisy

MaziOmenuko:
I don't think De Gea would want to push for a move right away; not when world cup is next year and Madrid just had an awesome season last year with Navas. Would he be guaranteed a regular shirt at Madrid? He wouldn't want to risk his spot at the national team.

Anyway, if he does push for a transfer, we may just get Hart as a placeholder till we get the right keeper.

Me no support this one ooo. Is Romero not better?

joeace2020:
De Gea to Madrid rumors back again like a bad fart. Simple..£150 million plus bale and Morata permanently and a 4 years loan of Modric, Marcello, Cavajal and Ronaldo. Swansea cannot be turning down £50 mil for sigurdson and RB Leipzig turning down £57 mil for keita then we will now be selling De Gea less than £100 million pounds.

Plus Santiago bernabeu then we lease it to them for 10years

raumdeuter:
After getting schooled so badly this is now you solace. Like I said any topic in football bring it and get schooled

Hahahahahahaahahahahgahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahshahhahahahahahahahahahhah. I have given you my time yesterday you failed miserably, you won't get such opportunity again.
Leeds went down before coming up to reach UCL semis,
west ham sold Tevez to United.

United bought free Agent Owen from already relegated Newcastle to weaken the opposition.

I have seen how you school people. Hensbrain one of your students is up there alone as a very unintelligent shallowed brain individual, he is a quintessential student of your school of delusion. To be fair to him it's you who did not educate him properly in your time-tested change of goal post which has become your landmark. He often basically lays his stupidity too open for all to see as against you who though fool yourself from time to time as well here, has this uncanny way of trying to wriggle out of your stupidity-induced trouble. As I earlier suggested, I think it's best OAU should institute a thorough psychological screening prior to issuing admission. would you blame me? Seeing as it was alleged that an oaf like you graduated from that prestigious citadel of learning, their hallowed reputation is at risk here. As someone suggested above, an aggregate fee of 25k refunded to you by the institution will look like a snip compared to having a character like you to parade her certificate.

Don't quote me again. It's a warning

hoopLA:
Obafemi Awolowo University.
Chemical Engineering

OK oo. I knoW OAU to be one of the foremost universities in the country, if that guy really graduated from there, that means he makes a strong case for psychological screening prior to admission.

hoopLA:
Shouldn't be too hard.
At the time he was in school, Ife was charging N500 as tutition.

I'd gladly refund it on his behalf.

Please provide a receipt for N2500 for the 5 years he studied.

I doubt that the fool went to Ife. Or do you mean Ife comprehensive high school or which of the Ife are you talking about?

Lordemperoris100:
oboy STFU

you were totally schooled by dayo

Lolz, that I dissected your Lord to pieces with his fallacies and he was holding onto straws may be too hard for you to swallow but you can see it here. next time you guys should give me knowledgeable champion, your today champion is bereft of ideas, guffing upandan and shifting goal posts all day. Until I nailed him with "Tevez" he ran away to guff again that Leeds were relegated before competing in the UCL. You thought I am all those small pikin he uses long epistles with to intimidate?

Abeg how una see am, I like this guy honestly hope he can shake off his injuries to perform at the highest level

Nihilist:
You don't have to be elite to make an impact in EPL football.

Graziano Pelle, balotelli, Dani Osvaldo, Fabio Borini, Angelo Ogbonna, emanuelle Giacherini and co have all been capped for Italy, and almost all of these players arrived on these shores with high expectations based on their exploits back home.

All of them flopped. All.

Jury is still out on Galbadini.

You forgot Zaza

osgreat:
Went down where?

Lolz Leeds went down to Bet9ja Challenge league were they played heartland of Owerri, Nnewi Fc, Warri wolves, Ocean boys of yenegoa and Julius Berger Fc .

Football Aristotle. And I was even wasting my time on him. Anyway na only today

Nihilist:
At this point, you're just arguing semantics.

You're not the first person to know about TPO mate. Sam Allardyce will tell you that TPO is alive and well. Jorge Mendez undoubtedly at least part-owns almost every player he represents, especially if they've played in Portugal.

When Manyoo signed Falcao, I can bet my bullocks that Mendes was a direct beneficiary, but everybody says Falcao was signed on loan from Monaco.

The key thing Dayo is telling you is that Manyoo weakened Tevez by forcefully taking him from another Premier league team - and that much is definitely true.

Tevez did not wake up one day and decided to stroll up the M1 to Manchester. Manyoo were had backdoor conversations with him whilst under contract with West Ham and offered him tons of money. West Ham certainly did not want to sell, and not only did they challenge the situation in the courts, they also paid very heavily in terms of fines and restitution money to Sheffield United.

You're busy arguing the legalese instead of failing to recognise the simple fact, regardless of the mechanics of the deal,Manyoo took Tevez from West Ham.

Within the context of the original argument, which is Manyoo weakens Premier League rivals, saying Manyoo bought Tevez from West Ham is perfectly legitimate, as the original statement only seeks to establish that Manyoo acquired a player from another Premier league club in a manner that deliberately weakened the club, and isn't necessarily concerned with the technicalities of the deal.

Insinuating that WestHam are rivals to Manyoo however....

You are correct and that is how a debate is supposed to be. But he kept talking rubbish. Let me ask you again cos you seem to be reasonable. Who loan Tevez to UNITED? Westham or the company headed by Kia. He has refused to lay that bare. Westham cannot sell Tevez to United when they don't own tevez. Sheffield was only involved because they were relegated and Tevez is not Even suppose to play for westham a player they do not own or loaned properly from a club. United didn't forcefully snatch Tevez from Westham as he is not their player. Kia was just junketing tevez wherever he wants for a fee. So Tottenham weakened The saints by signing Alderweireld even when it's Athletico Madrid than own him and he joined Spurs after just playing for the saints. So Toby joined Tottenham from Southampton but he was own by athletico. Any how he twerk it westham did not loan Tevez to United, Kia Jorabchain and his company did that last place he played before that is immaterial.

PattyCake:
I skipped the last few pages,
You people have let The Black Redneck to litter our thread with his rubbish .


In more sensible talks, ADNAN JANUZAJ TO REAL SOCIEDAD FOR €8.5m with a Buy back clause.


If you ask me, that's a Buy back clause we will never need.

Don't worry it's just for today, I won't lecture him for free again like today. He has been renewing his stupidity tag since today, but me odunharry and sinizia has been Making ridicule of him since today. But the problem with him is that he is a thick brain very hard to educate.

As for Adnan I wish him goodluck, he obviously has talent. He may later come good in future so the buy back clause is still necessary

raumdeuter:
You didnt buy from Leeds again because they went down and stopped being a competitior, the next time they came up again finished 3rd and went to the CL semi not long after you bought their captain Rio Ferdinand

another guff from the football Aristotle cum olodo. I still de rinse you upandan for the shit on your body when you knack another gboza!!!
Listen attentively olodo, Leeds did not go down from the period of the sale of Cantona through the sale of Ferdinand up until 2004 when they finally went down, then our purchase of Smith.

raumdeuter:
Everyone is laughing at your stupidity

Kia Jorabchian is not a football club, West Ham is a football club

I am done with you

raumdeuter:
This Kia Jorabchain FC that Tevez was playing for which league were they?

are you not ashamed of yourself? At that time an individual like Kia Jorabchain can own the rights a player. FIFA banned it that year. So what does FC have to do with a man owning a player and can sell or loan them. To make it worse some stupid shekpe fans are are even lauding you. Stupidity at the highest order

raumdeuter:
This Kia Jorabchain FC that Tevez was playing for which league were they?

Mr man Did Westham sell sorry loan Tevez to UNITED? This mumu did not know that FIFA banned individuals from owning players after the Tevez/Masch saga.

Which division was Newcastle as at when Owen joined as a free agent?

Roy Carroll, Alan Smith, Gary pallister and Dennis Irwin joined United from Wigan, Leeds, Middlesbroug and Oldham Athletic respectively when the above mentioned clubs are in which division?
Abeg shift joor

raumdeuter:
See foolishness in black and white, So Carlos Tevez was playing for Kia Jorabchim FC? abi which club was Tevez playing for before joining Man Utd


So you know something about free agency now let me test your knowledge.

So if Man Utd didnt sign Owen from Newcastle because he was a free agent, How come the same dolt claimed Bayern signed Lewandoski from Dortmund when Lewandoski was signed on a free transfer as well

Olodo let me teach you again Owens club Newcastle was no longer an EPL team at that time and was no longer contracted to Newcastle. Lewandowski signed a pre contract before the season finished with Bayern and Dortmund were offering him a new contract which he rejected.

Again I ask you who sent Carlos to UNITED ? Jorabchain or westham? Mind you after that saga FIFA cancelled individuals owing a player. Another guff by the football Aristotle cum olodo

raumdeuter:
See foolishness in black and white, So Carlos Tevez was playing for Kia Jorabchim FC? abi which club was Tevez playing for before joining Man Utd

Olodo rabata !!!! Oya sing after me.

Who did United sign Carlos from? West Ham? Who did Liverpool sign masch from? West Ham I think. ODE.

Wait oooo I think an olodo even mentioned that

Man United bought Gary pallister from an EPL club abi. But Gary joined in 1989 from Middlesbrough, but at that point Boro has just spent a year in the 2nd division haven been promoted the penultimate year from the the 3rd division.

The olodo cum football Aristotle mentioned that Denis Irwin moved from a premier league team. But Dennis(sorry Dennis mentioning your name when trying to school an apari) moved from Old ham Athletic in 1990. But at 1990 Oldham were not an EPL team.

So United have been busy weakening second division teams, while a one team club supporter were promoting them to EPL in his deluded wretched mind.

Next time get your facts right before debating with your superior