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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by CapitalCee(m): 4:52pm On Jun 20, 2017
dopeJemi:
1: it's the competition that you find yourself in that you try to win, you can't be playing in the Europa league and hope to win the champions league

2: both are record breakers and both scored in a European final

3: bale and Madrid have no business in what I was saying
They keep consoling themselves with Torres dying minutes goal against Barca. That goal is not the winning goal.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by CapitalCee(m): 4:49pm On Jun 20, 2017
bigkesh:
Our 50m won us the UCL,their 90m won them 'direct entry' to UCL



Levels
Chelsea were leading the tie on away goals before Torres scored that meaningless goal. Ramirez won that game with his chipped goal that turned that game in favour of Chelsea
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 4:38pm On Jun 20, 2017
airmark:
It's known in sport circles that injuries hinder performances. Bad luck ko, padlock ni. The same bad luck that didnt stop him from scoring 8 goals each in his last 2 seasons in serie a, right? Typical african man. Pogba didnt leave up to the billings last season, you dont need to shy away from the truth. The best you can say is to wait till next season.
He scored 9 goals in all competitions last season, not bad for a deep lying midfielder... Abeg shift joor
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 4:35pm On Jun 20, 2017
Leyqute:
He wasn't bad, he was just about okay. Look past his first 2 seasons, he had lots of ups and downs. And we broke the bank and our transfer fee record to get him, despite the fact that he wanted to come to the red part of Manchester. Levy held on and simply chose more money.



Yes. In total he had 149 appearances, scoring 57 times. GBP30m in 2008 is how much in today's market?

Which of Levy's players remained a force to be reckoned with in their clubs several years after their transfers? Modric perhaps?
Micheal Carrick for 15.8m will says hello
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 10:34am On Jun 19, 2017
This mourinho eeeh . Must you yab person?

PoliticsRe: Okorocha Meets A Couple On Their Way To Their Wedding (Photos) by CapitalCee(m): 9:16pm On Jun 17, 2017
NwaAmaikpe:
shocked
If I were the groom I will divorce that old hag right away...
That is the height of disregard for her husband....

If she can kneel on the road in public for Rochas...she will definitely bend on the bed for him behind closed doors.

Just because of money see how she humiliated herself and her husband now we have all seen her husband's hideous wedding suit and shoe
Keep Quiet, a woman that kneels down for a man that's older than her is respect not humiliation.

You are an 1di.o.t to insult her husband's dressing, is it your business? Just because you're frustrated with life doesn't make everyone like your wr.eched self.
PoliticsRe: Okorocha Meets A Couple On Their Way To Their Wedding (Photos) by CapitalCee(m): 9:15pm On Jun 17, 2017
NwaAmaikpe:
shocked
If I were the groom I will divorce that old hag right away...
That is the height of disregard for her husband....

If she can kneel on the road in public for Rochas...she will definitely bend on the bed for him behind closed doors.

Just because of money see how she humiliated herself and her husband now we have all seen her husband's hideous wedding suit and shoe
.

Keep Quiet, a woman that kneels down for a man that's older than her is respect not humiliation.

You are an 1di.o.t to insult her husband's dressing, is it your business? Just because you're frustrated with life doesn't make everyone like your wr.eched self.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 11:17am On Jun 16, 2017
SIRcumalot:
that donaruma fella dey go Madrid.
DE gea window don close.
You are joking with Italian Mafias, donnarumma will stay at Milan, it's just a way of improving his wages. Several Italian legends have told him to snub Madrid
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 11:14am On Jun 16, 2017
GloryIsaac:
Nice one... he should even increase the price to £200m angry ... Madrid has highly disrespected our relationship with them angry, always coming to take the best guys for reasonable fees but cannot sell a benchwarmer for a reasonable price angry
Mourinho told them to give us Moratta+45m for Degea or they Bleep off. Man u will not pay more than 55million for Moratta, as much as we need a striker and they (Madrid) know that. United know that they needed to sell moratta to fund mbappe deal. Infact they need to sell him as a matter of urgency, they will soon be desperate. Didn't you notice that Chelsea pulled out if the James deal because of the sky high amount they were naming. Now nobody wants him people should ignore those Madrid players and look elsewhere joor
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 9:07am On Jun 16, 2017
[quote author=GloryIsaac post=57563222] Bros, if Veratti comes to United, Herrera will most likely have to play behind him and Pogba or his game time will reduce drastically...... Herrera has successfully won the hearts of ManUtd fans (except one guy)[/b] but that doesn't change the fact that Veratti will still bench him[b].... Btw, there are up to 60 games to play so he'll get his time..
Are you for real? Bench who? If Jose is like left with benching either Verrati or Herrera, Jose will pick Herrera all day without thinking. This talk just de make me vex sef.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 9:00am On Jun 16, 2017
TopWinner:
"...most likely kick out Herrera..."

LMAO... No one, I repeat, no player on this planet can kick Ander out of this United team. Argh! Some of you are disrespectful o.
Don't mind these funny united fans, I will not, I repeat, I will not swap Ander Herrera with any fucking midfielder in this earth, and Jose will never do that, someone that apart from his performance, he loves the club and he plays with everything in him, you want to replace him with a big money player that we don't know if he will gel with the system. Jose loves Ander , soooo much and will never bench him.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 11:32am On Jun 15, 2017
Diademk07:
What exactly am I understanding? That Dier is a fantastic midfielder or what?

Your article only point to one thing which is the fact that Dier was a utility man after his arrival at Spurs. He was shuttling between different roles and I doubt if he start close to 30 league matches. The point is I don't care because no one recognised Pochettino's Spurs at the time.[/b] I started to take notice of them 2 seasons ago [/b]and at the time Dier had a full time role as a midfielder, not the utility player he was. I'm not someone that suffers from complex issue to go as far back to dig up useless thing to make a point even when I know such things won't support the notion at the end of the day because the point is/was Dier is an average midfielder and Spurs' coach realised this by moving him to the CB role last season and that was my point all along. Kapish!
FIXED

that you started paying attention to Spurs just 2 seasons ago doesn't make it true for everyone. Some people are already conversant with spurs team set up as far back as when Sol Campbell left them for their North London rivals.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 11:01pm On Jun 14, 2017
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 10:48pm On Jun 14, 2017
Diademk07:
Look at this foolish slug! You mean if TT never had problem with the team and came second or 1st, he would have been sacked because he had little problem with the board?

It's like your stupid head was in hibernation when the likes of Sahin, Schmelzer, Mor et al ganged up against TT!

The fact is TT getting sacked was based on plethora of things put together and the board decided to let go because he's burned every bridges!

BTW, I'm still waiting for you to prove your stupid claim on how Dier was a RB for spurs before he became a midfielder?
Receive sense in Jesus name!!!! Say Amen

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 10:36pm On Jun 14, 2017
CapitalCee:
Dier was converted from a RB/CB to a defensive midfielder. Get your facts correct before arguing
This Guy no wise at at all!!!!
Diademk07:
What's this one saying?

Dier was a midfielder for Spurs before he was converted into CB last season! Why don't you prove otherwise! Mtchew..
Am done with You!!!! When you acquire any little football knowledge you can come let's talk.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 10:22pm On Jun 14, 2017
Brightwood:
Tuchek was sacked because of club Politics, Stop reaching with your rubbish...You are stretching your arguments rather thin.
Ignore that guy, he even was arguing that Dier was originally a DM that was converted to a center back. SMH
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 10:20pm On Jun 14, 2017
Diademk07:
It wasn't just about politic. He's been on the needles since his poor display, especially in the first half of the season as well as the players questioning his tactics! Same politics was at play two seasons ago but everyone were all happy because Dortmund played lovely football and got into 2nd position after an abysmal season under Klopp.

Get your fact right or f.uck off already unless you really want to get it from me tonight.
Stop talking crap you this guy, everybody is now aware that you are not knowledgeable in football. Tuchel was sacked because he fell out with the board for not informing him that their CL first leg quarters final with Monaco will go on the next day, since then they have not seen eye to eye. Stop disgracing yourself here
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 7:54pm On Jun 14, 2017
Nezzel:
Its really cute how you avoided my questions. I got it from your earlier post that EL is not a real title. Fine.
Dortmund finished third behind new comers liepzig. Their main objective this season is to mount a meaningful challenge for the league tittle this season and not chase automatic CL qualification with Hoffeinham. But I digress.
You said that Mourinho will never win anything while parading mediocre midfielders. I know you hate Herrera, pogba too?
What will happen if Mourinho finally win the league and/or CL with Herrera and Pogba in the midfield? Because according to you, they are not Poole, Harrop and Van Damme.
Read and understand the questions b4 u answer. I never mentioned EL but u banked on it to make ur point... Which is no point really.
Ignore that guy he usually talks trash. Are you really arguing with someone who said that Eric Dier was converted from a DM to a CB?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 5:37pm On Jun 14, 2017
Diademk07:
I keep wondering why some people often choose to leave out some truth.

What midfield are you talking about? Dier who's been converted into a CB for Spurs? Was he good enough to have been converted into a CB? And a certain Alli who's a SS/attacking midfielder? Abeg! The reality on ground is the fact that our midfield was dominated by Ajax u23 team.
Dier was converted from a RB/CB to a defensive midfielder. Get your facts correct before arguing
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 11:48am On Jun 14, 2017
TopWinner:
Tbh, we need a good DM next season. Pogba had that much freedom to roam yesterday because he had N'golo Kante behind him doing all the dirty work.
That's what we have been saying, get a cover to free Pogba and Herrera, get a sharp winger with pace and bags of tricks to disorganize the opposition, then a striker who can finish the plethora of chances created by Pogba and other midfielders, together with lindelof at the back, there is no way we won't challenge for the title.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 9:33am On Jun 14, 2017
August 12 - West Ham United (H)

August 19 - Swansea City (A)

August 26 - Leicester City (H)

September 9 - Stoke City (A)

September 16 - Everton (H)

September 23 - Southampton (A)

September 30 - Crystal Palace (H)

October 14 - Liverpool (A)

October 21 - Huddersfield Town (A)

October 28 - Tottenham Hotspur (H)

November 4 - Chelsea (A)

November 18 - Newcastle United (H)

November 25 - Brighton and Hove Albion (H)

November 28 - Watford (A)

December 2 - Arsenal (A)

December 9 - Manchester City (H)

December 12 - Bournemouth (H)

December 16 - West Bromwich Albion (A)

December 23 - Leicester City (A)

December 23 - Leicester City (A)

December 26 - Burnley (H)

December 30 - Southampton (H)

January 1 - Everton (A)

January 13 - Stoke City (H)

January 20 - Burnley (A)

January 31 - Tottenham Hotspur (A)

February 3 - Huddersfield Town (H)

February 10 - Newcastle United (A)

February 24 - Chelsea (H)

March 3 - Crystal Palace (A)

March 10 - Liverpool (H)

March 17 - West Ham United (A)

March 31 - Swansea City (H)

April 7 - Manchester City (A)

April 14 - West Bromwich Albion (H)

April 21 - Bournemouth (A)

April 28 - Arsenal (H)

May 5 - Brighton and Hove Albion (A)
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 9:21am On Jun 14, 2017
TopWinner:
Guys, who saw Pogba last night? Mans was in the f...... mood! grin
Nobody will talk about it, everybody is very silent now. He bossed that overrated English midfield of Alli and Dier. People keep talking about 89m pounds as if football is quantity surveying. Give the guy some credit, rival fans revel in criticizing him to bring down his moral, hence his performance. It's sad most United fans join them.

Next season we need a strong defensive midfielder behind Pogba and Herrera.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by CapitalCee(m): 7:05pm On Jun 11, 2017
bigkesh:
Southampton, Lyon,[/b]Arsenal,Inter,Dortmund,PSG[b]......What's wrong in signing the best players from these teams
Chelsea is not bigger than these teams
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 3:05pm On Jun 10, 2017
hensben:
what will you now term rio ferdnand signing who moved from Leeds to manure for 30m£? Veron 23m£....Over sabi and sentimental being like you.
Let me continue trashing your lack of facts again.
Veron was 26 when he moved to United and have already played in both the world cup and champions league with Argentina and Lazio respectively, and was Argentine captain.
Rio was the undisputed best defender in Britain at that time and have also played world cup as a starter, reaching both UEFA cup and champions league semifinals with Leeds.

Lampard only starts at westham because his uncle Harry redknapp was the manager. At that time he only get games at england u-21.so your comparisons are way off
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 2:42pm On Jun 10, 2017
AdisaOwala:
As at that time, the squad was heavily depleted with injuries & LVG had no one to run to...hence the "emergency promotion" of Rashford.

No?
Abeg tell am, and that was even in the Europa against part timers mitdjiland, he scored two goals there added another two against arsenal 3 days later, scored knocked out westham in the FA cup a week later. Even a blind man will promote any body that emerge like that. Even mourinho who is criticized for not giving youngsters chance, promoted names like David Santon, Casemeiro, Moratta, Callejon, Nacho and Balloteli.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 2:34pm On Jun 10, 2017
Diademk07:
Herrera played as CM under Mourinho na and was still rubbish in that role like he was under Mourinho. The truth is the only way Herrera can become relevant is by playing as a DM for a below 6th-placed team which is what we were last season and Bilbao's constant position. He's not meant for a top team. He may have been our best player last season but he's simply not one of the best DM nor CM out there, so what are we saying?

As for Modric, he was not only used wrongly by Mourinho at Madrid. His best position has always been in the central midfield but because [/b]Mourinho wanted a more defensively solid player in the attacking midfield, Modric was used in the said role.[b]

That's quite different from Herrera.
I think you don't just like the dude Herrera.

For the bolded, mourinho used Ozil as the attacking midfielder, so how is Ozil more defensive than Modric? May be if your are a manager Ozil could rival Ramos or Pepe for the CB position.
Modric at that time is a bench warmer. Khedira, Alonso and Ozil start for mourinho, it was Ancelloti that sold "lazy" and non-defensive Ozil and installed Modric.

Like I said I don't want to enter this long argument, it's a no brainier
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 2:21pm On Jun 10, 2017
Diademk07:
And we didn't play counter attacking football? Our win against Chelsea was a full flowing possession based football from our end, right? Clap for yourself.

And you should be thanking Van gaal for promoting Rashford because if he hadn't, Mourinho would have been saddled with the same immobile ageing Rooney that played as the striker for 2/3 of Van gaal regime before Rashford emerged.
I don't have time for this your argument I am talking about Kante in Chelsea and Leicester team.
Rashford is a good player so will eventually emerge one day with or without van gaal
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 2:17pm On Jun 10, 2017
PietroRico:
yea, he needs to and will improve. There was a point in the season where he switched off due to burn out. I believe he even had to fake that his last injury to get some much needed rest.
A rest that was prolonged by the unfortunate incident that happened to his father.
We all saw how he came back in the last games of the season.

This is probably even his first real pre season for quite some time now.

But you can't help but feel Pogba will never be rated objectively, not when they keep throwing that transfer fee into the equation, consciously or unconsciously.

We will keep hearing statements that sound like, he did well but not 89m well.
It is normal to expect talks like this from rival fans, but when they begin to come from our own fans, it becomes really funny.
Give this guy one crate of Heineken. Most United fans need not join those sub standard elements in the opponents camp to slay our fans who are trying to settle.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 2:13pm On Jun 10, 2017
hensben:
How can Lampard be a laughing stock when he was just signed for 11mil£ huh. Siniza you see hey I comment on your players.
Olodo 11 million in 2002 , it was a record then for someone of his age then.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 2:12pm On Jun 10, 2017
Diademk07:
The point is Herrera's neither here or there!

Is a good box-box hustler? No, he lacks the intensity to operate as one. In fact, I've often noticed a major difference in the way Kante runs all over the pitch and keep up the intensity in the midfield whereas Herrera is a bit subdued in the same role. He would either stay as a marker to a particular opposition player or would just stay back to place himself in better position for interception. Looking at the way he operates, that should make him good for the holding midfielder which he mostly played last season but is he one of the best holding midfielder out there? The answer is still no! Because his ability to build up play and contribute in the control of the midfield is zero!

Hence, I would say he was decent-good for us last season but I would prefer having a better player in the same position for us. If we are to attain a worldclass position, Herrera should only be a squad player!
Tomorrow when he starts putting in excellent performances like Bailly, and you point it out Chelsea fans hailing you now,will dig up your post to mock you. Modric was a bench warmer in his first season at Madrid because he was competing with Ozil in the attacking midfield position, the following season Ancelloti moved him to proper central midfield behind Khedira and he excelled immediately, boom champions league they won, last week they added a third in 4 seasons while Ozil is chilling with 3 FA Cups in the same number of seasons. Herrera is a central midfielder not a defensive midfielder, he only played there because nobody in united could do the job more than him, 25m schnerderlien flopped. That is why we need a tactically stable DM like Fabinho to allow Herrera roam around influencing play the way he should. He can't be participate fully in build up play and midfield control when he is paying close attention to opposition dangermen sniffing them out and shielding our injury-ravaged/make-shift defence.
Modric can afford to, there is Casemeiro. Ramsey schooled Kante and matic in the F A Cup final cos Xhaka covered him. Silva can roam and influence play because he has Fernandino, Busquets was the foot soldier when iniesta and xavi dominated the world in both Barcelona and Spain. Herrera doesn't have that luxury. Get him a Good cover and judge him afterwards.

Although Herrera needs to improve? He is not a squad player, not after this seasons performance
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 1:46pm On Jun 10, 2017
PietroRico:
so we are all supposed to ignore the fact that his teammates, ibramismovic in particular kept letting him down repeatedly by spurning chance after chance, he created
that is another issue, he even won a penalty against Bournemouth, ibro passed it to the keeper. Although generally he needs to improve and that he will surely do.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 1:33pm On Jun 10, 2017
bigkesh:
So you agree we finished 10th because of Portuguese Christian Chukwu
You didn't finish tenth last season with any Portuguese. The last time I checked Guus Hiddink is a Dutch.

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