₦airaland Forum

solomon111: Delusions of grandeur.
Go ask your minister of finance about the future of SA economy and weep.

andrewza: O yes I forgot, that any thing negtive about nigeria is propergander. There is a global conspiracy to discredt them. Mm yes because the world cares about nigeria.


(For those that don't know. That is sarcasem)

khiaa: They have flat azzes, what are you talking about?

khiaa: LOL. What is asian azz?

Malawian: wtf is all these rubish? even countries like libya with better ammo and a not at all puppet head has had a change of government. who will fight for one nigeria if another war breaks out? believe me, we will be falling over each other to welcome the invaders.

Henry120: Did the poll involve other races or just the white ruling class? Andrew, you were born during apartheid, as a white south african, what is your personal perspective on apartheid?



Nigeria faces a monumental task of tackling this insurgency. Please do not compare what we are facing now, to what south efrika faced in the 80's.
Troops have to deal with guerrilla warfare, suicide attacks and IED's from people who believe that when they die in jihad, they'll go to paradise and have 72 virgins

In the southern part of nigeria, 95% of women are literate, with a large number of them going for their masters degree. Polio has since been eradicated. Poverty is low. The north has one of the highest illiteracy level, polio and beggars are rampant in the north. The environment is hostile. While the south of nigeria continues to look like brazil, india in growth and infastructure, the north of nigeria is looking more like yemen and pakistan with constant terror attacks.

So you can see that, illiteracy and poverty induced by northern leaders, with a mix of islam spells disaster. They cannot be reasoned with. The task before the nigerian army is huge. Infact south africa should thank her stars that she has a very low muslim population and Christian neighbours.

Sometimes I wonder what is wrong with muslims, infact what is wrong with black african muslims, for crying out loud the religion these people are fighting for is imported, arab religion. Why don't africans just practise our traditional religions and live in peace.

dansmog++:
EDcw if they can bribe the FG, i think that is a very huge sum. The truth is that they cant bribe the FG...not becos it is the FG.. And one more thing i think the FG consented for the help from the US... Nigeria will pass 2015 and BH will end this year

Malawian: when una yarn finish, prepare for breakup ni.

Tolexander: Is yacht a crab on sea that will just disappear like that?

What doesn't disappear in nigeria?
Car dey disappear for road!
40billion nigerian satellite dey disappear for orbit!
4.5billion naira yacht disappearing no be amazing thing!

dansmog++:
now does it mean that Nigeria is a threat to them just like the other countries? But in what area.

Ok lets assume this is true, what is the way forward, cos things like that headline cant be totally true if the government are not involved..

And if the gov. Are truely involved, is there way out of this?

uche16: answer the damm question,why would they waste money and manpower when they obviously can bribe our officials to do anything they want

dansmog++:
now does it mean that Nigeria is a threat to them just like the other countries? But in what area.

Ok lets assume this is true, what is the way forward, cos things like that headline cant be totally true if the government are not involved..

And if the gov. Are truely involved, is there way out of this?

Henry120: It would be a waste of time having a defence/ military section. Who would always keep it running? The regular contributors on this thread are few, 8 of us in number, 4 on the nigerian side and 4 on the south african side. Not forgetting camerounian dude who is neither here no there.

You can't make a section with this less input. I'd prefer we stick to this thread, any information we have, we share here and discuss.

A military section would be a bad idea.

dansmog++:
ok if this is true, that means they (the USA) understands the future of our beloved country, they know how great it is gonna be. And if it is not, i think there is still a lot to learn from this article... I have once read a summary of the illuminati book (just want to bring a point frrom there nothing else) that africa will be the power house and the us will be doomed for some time by 2050. There are prophecy that nigeria will surpass 2015.

Dibiachukwu: Look during the civil war, the US was indirectly complicit with the events that unfolded. It was simply white people trying to keep the children of CHUKWU down. Igbos are too wise to be deceived by burger gulping yankees. We would not interfere if they keep their activities away from alaigbo. However even CHUKWU would single handedly destroy all pigs if they dare to strike anywhere close to alaigbo and her cousins.

zetdee: The thing is, without sympathizers within the government who share security info, bokoharam is pretty useless, it's mostly incompetence within the Nigerian security establishement thats the problem. Our task force would handle bokoharam.

zetdee: The thing is, without sympathizers within the government who share security info, bokoharam is pretty useless, it's mostly incompetence within the Nigerian security establishement thats the problem. Our task force would handle bokoharam.

zetdee: Pretty much, our police were able to take on PAGAT a terrorists organization similar if not worse than bokoharam.

Msauza: This comes from the United Nations website, they confirmed the deaths and that is the case am afraid. I rest my case.

22 April 2013 – Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon has voiced shock and sadness today at reports of high numbers of civilians killed in Nigeria’s Borno State following armed clashes there between Government forces and an extremist group.

Over the weekend, fighting between Nigeria’s military and Islamic extremists caused the deaths of at least 185 people in the northeastern town of Baga, media sources have reported.

“The Secretary-General reiterates his firm conviction that no objective sought can justify this resort to violence,” Mr. Ban’s spokesperson said in a statement.

“He expresses his condolences to the bereaved families and calls on all extremist groups to cease their attacks.”

Violence fuelled by sectarian motives is not uncommon in Nigeria where the Islamist group, Boko Haram, has frequently resorted to targeting civilians. Last year, over 100 people were killed when the radical group attacked churches in Kaduna State, drawing widespread condemnation from the UN.

Mr. Ban “underscores the need for all concerned to full respect human rights and safeguard the lives of civilians,” the Secretary-General’s statement added.

Capnd143: if 185 people died then why were their bodies nt found? Do you just go about believing any foreign media source? I know if this was SA Case my compatriots would have believed, so i want to be unbiased here! Now lets be realistic! "Baga" is a very small village of very low population density and dispersed settlement! Remember the people living there are mainly nomads, which indicates there are basically "on-the-road" type of people. Now in baga, acording to available geographical data, it will take more than 400,000 metres of swat of lengthy land of lets say thousands of metres wide, to accomadate 2000 houses and their rangelands and their cattle,camels and rams! Now it means will take 400,000 metres of combat circle radius to destroy 2000 houses! Considering the fact that the number of terrorist were only close to a hundred and a few Multi-national force comprising of . . . .

Msauza: [b][/b]Where is justice for poor civilian? Should we perhaps say that's how the most reputable army in Africa should show its prowess. Real valiant do not kill women and children for an honour, they go men on men. That incident alone it makes you top the rankings of the best army in Africa. You deserve it.

In Nigeria, Clash With Militants Kills Scores

By ADAM NOSSITER
Published: April 23, 2013

DAKAR, Senegal - One of the deadliest clashes between Islamist insurgents and security forces in northern Nigeria has destroyed much of a fishing town on the shore of Lake Chad, killed more than 180 people and highlighted the brutal tactics of Nigerian soldiers in combating the nearly four-year uprising.

Almost 2,000 homes were burned in the exchange between militants of the Boko Haram group and the military on Friday, said Gov. Kashim Shettima of Borno State, where the forces clashed over four hours in the town, Baga. Some residents were killed in the fierce gun battle, and others died in a conflagration when their thatched-roof homes were set alight, Governor Shettima said Monday, having visited the town on Sunday after the fighting died down.

The cause of the fire was in dispute. The military said militants had set the homes on fire by using rocket-propelled grenades. Some residents, though, accused soldiers of starting the fires deliberately to root out the extremists.

Baga lies at the remote northeastern edge of Nigeria, a lightly governed area of high penetration by Boko Haram militants who are easily able to slip across borders into Chad and Cameroon. There is also a military presence in the town, and the clash between militants and soldiers may have been set off when Boko Haram attacked residents who were watching a soccer match on an open-air television, said an expert on the region, Kole Shettima, who is chairman of the Center for Democracy and Development, a research organization in the Nigerian capital, Abuja, and no relation to the governor.

Soldiers responded to the attack, Mr. Shettima said, and civilians in the town paid the price, as they often do in northern Nigeria. The soldiers "opened fire, ransacked houses, and killed who they killed," he said.

The governor agreed that the clash was a heavy one. "There was a very serious exchange of gunfire between the terrorists and the military," the governor said. "The terrorists used very sophisticated weaponry."

Witnesses in Baga said soldiers had gone on a rampage and shot civilians. Hundreds of residents fled into the surrounding bush, people in Baga said. Unusually, even the governor said the soldiers were partly to blame for the high death toll. Nigerian officials usually avoid blaming the military.

"Boko Haram and the military are both guilty," Governor Shettima said. "I don't want to entirely lay the blame on Boko Haram. They are both complicit in the crime. The duty of the military is to protect the lives and property of the people."

The Boko Haram militants "are everywhere," said the governor, whose state is the home base of the insurgency. The state capital, Maiduguri, is where the Boko Haram uprising against the Nigerian government began in the summer of 2009. "There is no place that is insulated from their presence," the governor said.

Brig. Gen. Austin Edokpaye, the local commander, laid the blame squarely on Boko Haram, saying the militants used civilians as human shields during the attack. The general said his men had been attacked at a mosque used by militants to store arms.

"It was around that mosque that our men were attacked, with several of them injured, and an officer killed," the general said. "When we reinforced and returned to the scene, the terrorists came out with heavy firepower," including rocket-propelled-grenade launchers.

Yahaya Ibrahim contributed reporting from Maiduguri, Nigeria.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2013/04/23/world/africa/in-nigeria-clash-with-militants-kills-scores.xml

Sometimes it's important to win all these wars where there are no challenges!

chucky234: Everyday JTF kills boko haram commander,how many commanders do they have na ability their commanders no dey ever finish.