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felixomor:
Your lies keep going like pinnochio:

Please how did u confirm the people on the link were "misdiagnosed"?

I hope u are not this shameless in real life sha?

The diagnosis of brain death is an irreversible loss of brain function, so if it's not irreversible then it's not brain death.

Haba, una dense ooo

butterflylion:
He has actually lost track of all the things he made up on the way so did not know when his lies started becoming apparent.

He shot himself at point blank range with a sawed off shotgun multiple times but never knew it and even when shown the big holes created by his own shotgun on his person he makes up another "all the time " statement when his first statement was "never at any time".

Hey god. Which part of brain death is irreversible and anyone diagnosed as brain dead but regains cerebral function was misdiagnosed don't you theists understand?




And yes people beat prognostic odds all the time.
Spontaneous remission of cancer is beating prognostic odds.
Gosh.

butterflylion:
I thought the herbal doctor claimed brain death was irreversible yet he is now holding on to my website reference which showed people who came back after being brain dead. He is now using that to argue that it occurs all the time even after first saying it is irreversible.

How many mouth this herbal doctor get Abeg?

We were the ones talking about recovery chances being possible while he was the one saying there is absolutely zero recovery chance for anyone with no brain activity seen and now he is trying to claim he was on our side all along with that nonsense he just posted.

Shameless liar! The guy is a shameless bold faced liar full stop!

I even mentioned here that medically induced coma only reduces brain activity but does not Eliminate it entirely while in Eben Alexanders case he had zero brain activity which was why he said if he was brain dead then it was not reversible and then began this argument on his bed of lies without understanding the medical terms in the prognosis produced by Eben Alexander but claims to be a medical doctor.

Why this desperate need for him to lie just to win an argument?

This ignorant guy let me just clear this up before people come here and swallow your falsehood.

Brain death is irreversible. Anyone that was previously diagnosed as brain dead and later regained cerebral function was misdiagnosed (the previous diagnosis was wrong) the people in your blog were misdiagnosed as brain dead.

I just used it to show that flatline on EEG doesn't necessarily mean brain death. Of course I don't expect you to understand it, you're too dumb to.


And no, no doctor diagnosed Dr Eben brain dead because he was fuckkking sedated. How thick can you all be. I've been repeating same thing since.

felixomor:
I can see you are now dodging apnea test.
Meanwhile, you were ignorantly looking for it before...
You see yourself?
It took 2 days to clear that ignorance from u.

And u further exposed your ignorance, because u were looking for "certificate of brain death" even when you knew he was sedated.
So its obvious u never read the story.

And u then ignorantly told us the patient "regained cortical function" after no brain activity on multiple Tracins
Just Like a herbalist.
Clearly telling us u dont know how neurons operate.

As if that one is not enough,
U demonstrated u dont know the codes of MDCN

Dear, u are not qualified to talk on this topic

I was asking for the tests done to indicate that he was brain dead since you and your genius colleague said he was brain dead, that was why I was looking for apnoea test. Saying someone is brain dead without apnoea test is criminal.



I was looking for who certified because it was maddening that someone sedated could be declared brain dead. I wanted to be sure that was why I was looking for it. You guys don't even know what and what goes into certifying someone brain dead. You all have been harping on EEG which isn't even listed as a major criteria. But it flew over the head of you geniuses.



Patients have been shown to recover cerebral function after recording flatlines on EEG even your Co dumb genius posted a blog that showed that. People beat prognostic odds all the time.


And you still haven't posted this fake mdcn rule that you made up yourself.


And you still haven't offered any rebuttal to any of my points.

felixomor:
So you wont do apnea test again ba?
Or yOu will still do it

Ogbeni if there's a presence of a confounding agent, it won't get to apnoea test. Your nigga was sedated that was why he never got the apnoea test because it's against guidelines to certify someone sedated brain dead yet you geniuses still insist that he was brain dead.


Felix answer my questions naa, I go call the whole of Nairaland for you ooo.

Your rebuttal to my post on brain death and sedation.


Your rebuttal to my post on misdiagnosis of brain death.


Your rebuttal to these.
1) Doctors in America certify a patient brain dead despite butterflylion claim to the contrary.
2) Dr. Eben wasn't certified brain dead by his doctors.
3) Brain death is an irreversible process, there's no way Dr. Eben would have been brain dead and regained full neurological function.
4) Felixomor is yet to show me my foolish EEG facts.
5) People experiencing NDE can't perceive time which explains why Dr. Eben thinks he was in an NDE for 7 days.
6) The best explanation for Dr. Eben case was that he experienced his NDE as he was regaining cortical function as explained by a neurologist Professor Oliver Wolf Sacks in this link.https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2012/12/seeing-god-in-the-third-millennium/266134/
7)EEG aren't really needed to certify a patient brain dead
8.) Still waiting for something tangible.
9) Butterflylion and Felixomor have no clue on how Nigerian housemanship works.

felixomor:
You earlier dodged a simple question

What do you do as a doctor when you detect multiple tracings of no brain activity on EEG of a septic patient?

Go and copy your wikipedia and come back

Secondly, MDCN has stipulated time for completion of housejob from period of graduation for all doctors
Are you a backdoor doctor?

And its obvious from your thinking that you think sedation erases brain activity.
Olodo, it doesnt.

I also remember the lies you told on "mega-stroke" when u ignorantly tried to express sarcasm on mini stroke....

You are the one who has been dodging...

If I see no identifiable tracings, I'll want to evaluate for brain death obviously and that means eliminating confounding agents of which sedation is one of them and your nigga was sedated, yet you geniuses still insist he was brain dead.

I never said sedation can lead to absent brain activity, please point where I wrote that.


Still yapping about the non-existent mdcn rules.


Sarcasm always flies over the head of theists, so it's okay if you didn't understand it. Y'all ain't bright enough.


I've answered your questions. Please answer mine.

Your rebuttal to my post on brain death and sedation.

Your rebuttal to my post on misdiagnosis of brain death.

Your rebuttal to these.
1) Doctors in America certify a patient brain dead despite butterflylion claim to the contrary.
2) Dr. Eben wasn't certified brain dead by his doctors.
3) Brain death is an irreversible process, there's no way Dr. Eben would have been brain dead and regained full neurological function.
4) Felixomor is yet to show me my foolish EEG facts.
5) People experiencing NDE can't perceive time which explains why Dr. Eben thinks he was in an NDE for 7 days.
6) The best explanation for Dr. Eben case was that he experienced his NDE as he was regaining cortical function as explained by a neurologist Professor Oliver Wolf Sacks in this link.https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2012/12/seeing-god-in-the-third-millennium/266134/
7)EEG aren't really needed to certify a patient brain dead
8.) Still waiting for something tangible.
9) Butterflylion and Felixomor have no clue on how Nigerian housemanship works.


I'm patiently waiting.

felixomor:
Chai
He still cant even get the law guiding house job...

By stipulated time, we mean from date of graduation
Not just time spent in the hospital....

No wonder!

Ogbeni you didn't even offer any rebuttal to what I wrote.
At least you're a doctor, that's why I'm asking you. Butterflylion own is an illiterate in this field, he has nothing to contribute. that's why I'm facing you.

What's your rebuttal to my post about sedation and brain death?

What's your rebuttal to my post about misdiagnosis of brain death?


What's your rebuttal to these?

1) Doctors in America certify a patient brain dead despite butterflylion claim to the contrary.
2) Dr. Eben wasn't certified brain dead by his doctors.
3) Brain death is an irreversible process, there's no way Dr. Eben would have been brain dead and regained full neurological function.
4) Felixomor is yet to show me my foolish EEG facts.
5) People experiencing NDE can't perceive time which explains why Dr. Eben thinks he was in an NDE for 7 days.
6) The best explanation for Dr. Eben case was that he experienced his NDE as he was regaining cortical function as explained by a neurologist Professor Oliver Wolf Sacks in this link.https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2012/12/seeing-god-in-the-third-millennium/266134/
7)EEG aren't really needed to certify a patient brain dead
8.) Still waiting for something tangible.
9) Butterflylion and Felixomor have no clue on how Nigerian housemanship works.


Ogbeni how many times do I have to tell you that I didn't school in Nigeria, so those your time frame laws if they exist doesn't apply to me?
Na wa oooo

felixomor:
Olodo
So a patient regains cortical function after multiple tracings of no brain activity...?

And EEG is used in detection of brain death, especially in a septic patient like this....

And FYI, there is stipulated time for completing house job for all doctors.
It is clearly written as their codes at MDCN
Unless you want to show us you are back door doctor?


You still feel like clutching straws?

And as usual, he didn't attempt any of the points.

I have already told you why his doctors couldn't certify him brain dead. He was heavily sedated, that is a contraindication to certifying a patient brain dead, but you geniuses still insist that the nigga is brain dead.
See why I said y'all are secondary School students?



By definition anyone that was diagnosed brain dead and recovers from it was misdiagnosed as brain death by definition is irreversible.


House job is usually completed within one year if an extension is required the doctor informs the employing hospital, not mdcn.
And I didn't say I spent more than one year during my house job.



Do you want to try again?

felixomor:
Still floating,
Trying to swim

Lol.
Address the points, I'll list them here again

So, so far, we've been able to establish that.
1) Doctors in America certify a patient brain dead despite butterflylion claim to the contrary.
2) Dr. Eben wasn't certified brain dead by his doctors.
3) Brain death is an irreversible process, there's no way Dr. Eben would have been brain dead and regained full neurological function.
4) Felixomor is yet to show me my foolish EEG facts.
5) People experiencing NDE can't perceive time which explains why Dr. Eben thinks he was in an NDE for 7 days.
6) The best explanation for Dr. Eben case was that he experienced his NDE as he was regaining cortical function as explained by a neurologist Professor Oliver Wolf Sacks in this link.https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2012/12/seeing-god-in-the-third-millennium/266134/
7)EEG aren't really needed to certify a patient brain dead
8.) Still waiting for something tangible.
9) Butterflylion and Felixomor have no clue on how Nigerian housemanship works.

KingEbukasBlog:
Catfishbilly , the duck-sound Wikipedia doctor is being exposed again , not for his imaginary pre-existent universes/eternal universe but for his ineptitude in the area of medical science his supposed metier .

Well done messrs felixomor et butterflylion . Good job !

Exposed kwa?
I've listed 9 points of contention and all Felix and butterflylion could come up with was a weak attempt at one.

Just point one Wikipedia article I posted. Bloody liar


I don't expect you guys to understand. It's like discussing theoretical physics with secondary School students.

I had to give up cos it was ad hominems all the way.


They should address my 9 points. You can help them too if you want.

butterflylion:
Ogbeni Felixomor confusion has made the guy to start asking for your permission before he goes back to work. Are you his employer?

He does not even know that we have minor and major strokes and though the symptoms are similar sometimes. We have Ischemic strokes,
Hemorrhagic strokes and Transient ischemic attacks (TIAs), also referred to as mini-strokes

The guy no sabi Nada.

As you said, return to Med school beckons on him.

Someone who does not know something as elementary as this is now the one reading EEG? Who dash monkey banana?

No wonder he has been busy copying and pasting all day yesterday because he no sabi nothing. See who wants to critique eben Alexander when he has no knowledge about common strokes.

No wonder ooo.

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And sarcasm flies over the head of theists.
Happens every fuckkking time.


Can't recognize it even if it's fuckkking them in the arse.

felixomor:
I already showed u the rubbish u spoke on EEG
You ignored it
I asked u to show me anybody who had multiple tracings of no activity that came back to life without permanent fatality and the best u could do was talk about Cassano who had a mini stroke.

And you are still asking me to show u the rubbish.
Please continue to blindly live in denial.

And again, you demonstrate quackery by showing that you dont know the clinical fearures of sepsis and that is why you dont know what i meant by masking effect.

Masking effect is the same reason why a patient with cough will not be placed on a drug like captopril
Because the complications of the drug can be masked by his cough which is already there.
He may die because of adverse reactions and you wont know.

The same way sepsis can mask the fatal effect of an apnea. And the patient will die from hypotension which is already a threat in sepsis.


You will never know this and thats why, I will say it again, you are not even qualified to read an EEG.
You may need to go back to med school, dear.
The lacuna between your med school and house job is showing clearly.

So, there's mega stroke, mini stroke, micro stroke and nano stroke.
Things I learn everyday. Thanks for the lecture. I never knew that.


And you have not shown me anything about foolish EEG facts. I challenged you and you brought out nothing.



Of course I know what masking effect means. You said, sepsis was a contraindication and I showed you clearly that sepsis wasn't listed as a criteria. Of course I know about the criteria to diagnose sepsis. I was only demonstrating why your argument doesn't hold water.
All these rigmaroles are irrelevant. Apnoea test was not carried out. No right thinking doctor would declare someone heavily sedated brain dead.
Your doctor wasn't declared brain dead.

It's okay though, you win, can I go back to work now?

felixomor:
"cassano had a sroke" (in agbero's voice)

Even a first year med student knows there are categories of stroke....
But obviously you dont know
Let alone knowing the prognosis associated with its types.

Besides, i thought u earlier said "poor prognosis" was your reason.?
Cop out once again


And you further confirmed your quackery by not knowing that those things listed there are side by side features of sepsis hence the masking effect if such test is used.

Please continue to clean the mess

I explicitly stated it here that Cassano had an Ischemic stroke secondary to a paradoxical emboli. Did you deliberately forget that one or what? He had fuckkking heart surgery after the stroke for crying out loud, where you went to read about it didn't tell you that too?



You've been calling me names since, you're yet to show me the foolish EEG facts, this is like the 20th time of asking. You can't show because they're not there. You don't even know what they are.

Oh, it's now masking effect, I thought you said it was contraindication.
Everything I've done here was just to demonstrate to you that your Lord and Savior Dr. Eben was never declared brain dead.

felixomor:
Just as they said....
You had to make up in between my replies

Even from the page you sited
Read:

The possible complications of this test include severe hypotension, pneumothorax, excessive hypercarbia, hypoxia, acidosis, and cardiac arrhythmia or asystole. The occurrence of any of these complications may constrain the examiner to abort the test, .......

And yet you wanted expert neurosurgeons to use such test on an already septic patient.....?

Bros, i think you are the one to do "sucking up"....

And once again, no matter the cover up
That isxhemic stroke example was a poor attempt.

Cassano didnt even have poor prognosis.
It was called a "mini stroke".
An isxhemic one at that.

Please try harder with the clean up

Sepsis wasn't listed there, so I don't see how that debunks my claim. Apnoea test wasn't performed, so he couldn't be certified brain dead. Simple.

Cassano had a stroke and he came back to play football, all these ones that you're doing now is window dressing.

7 points, 1 weak attempt.

butterflylion:
I dey tell you say you get time to argue with am. All his comments are all over the place and made up as he went along.

He does not even know what it means to "certify" anyone brain dead. Perhaps to him they need to write it out somewhere using the words "this patient is brain dead".

In trying to explain it he had to once again rely on what is written on a website. He no fit type anything by himself as a medical person.

He says brain death is irreversible ba?

Make he try read small.

http://kgov.com/brain-dead-patients-who-have-recovered

You try sha. Me I dont have such patience when his bullshiit has been detected a long time ago.

The straws that flew tonight were a plane load . I just tire.

According to these 2 articles, brain death is described as irreversible
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2772257/
https://www.openanesthesia.org/brain-death-definition/

I trust research articles and legal definition of terms much more than that blog cum website you put up there.



Is it paining you that I'm posting articles instead of writing? Are you allergic to reading? Yea, it's a thing with some nigerians.


Brain death is certified by a doctor so that if it turns out that the patient isn't actually brain dead, he can be sued for malpractice.
I've shown you how it's done across different US states and you still don't want to accept.
Can only take a horse to a stream, you can't force it to drink water.

felixomor:
Sorry
There is no Law, stop approximation and shortcutting.
You even forgot when u earlier said there are many things involved

And for you to say wether he is septic is irrelevant confirms your quackery.
That is already a contra indication for many things.


The exact reason why I say you are not even qualified to read an EEG.

The ischaemic stroke patient u used as example further confirms your quackery
because in such patients there is still brain activity on EEG

Do you have any other strawz to grasp?

Here is the criteria from American Academy of Neurology. A lot of things are considered, but the 3 main are

The clinical evaluation (neurologic assessment).
A. Coma.

Patients must lack all evidence of responsiveness. Eye opening or eye movement to noxious stimuli is absent. Noxious stimuli should not produce a motor response other than spinally mediated reflexes. The clinical differentiation of spinal responses from retained motor responses associated with

B. Absence of brainstem reflexes.

Absence of pupillary response to a bright light is documented in both eyes.
Absence of ocular movements using oculocephalic testing and oculovestibular reflex testing. Movement of the eyes should be absent during 1 minute of observation. Both sides are tested, with an interval of several minutes.
Absence of corneal reflex. Absent corneal reflex is demonstrated by touching the cornea with a piece of tissue paper, a cotton swab, or squirts of water. No eyelid movement should be seen.
Absence of facial muscle movement to anoxious stimulus.
Absence of the pharyngeal and tracheal reflexes. The pharyngeal or gag reflex is tested after stimulation of the posterior pharynx with a tongue blade or suction device. The tracheal reflex is most reliably tested by examining the cough response to tracheal suctioning. The catheter should be inserted into the trachea and advanced to the level of the carina followed by 1 or 2 suctioning passes.
C. Apnea Test

Absence of a Respiratory Drive.
Absence of a breathing drive is tested with a CO2 challenge. Documentation of an increase in PaCO2 above normal levels is typical practice. It requires preparation before the test

Sepsis isn't listed anywhere as a contraindication for apnoea test.

The ischemic stroke example was to demonstrate how people beat prognostic odds, I never compared both cases. I dont know how that flew over your head.

I'm a doctor, I'm qualified to read an EEG. Suck it up.

7 points but you could only muster one weak attempt at one. Pathetic


Okay, you win.

felixomor:
Someone who is septic had multiple reports of no brain activity.
Yet u want them to tell u pure before u know he had no brain activity.

Please show me a patient who came back from such state without permanent fatality?

You want them to have performed an apnea test which is even preliminary at best on a septic patient...
And you think that made sense.?

Its enough, dont reduce yourself further

Oga, the law says that to certify someone brain dead, 3 criteria must be met. Whether he was septic is irrelevant. So, as far as he didn't meet the 3 criteria, he's not brain dead. Simple.

And I've said it here before that he is not the first person to beat the prognostic odds and he won't be the last.
Antonio Cassano had an ischemic stroke secondary to a paradoxical emboli. He recovered fully and continued his football career.

Out of 7 points you could only muster a weak attempt at one?

So, so far, we've been able to establish that.
1) Doctors in America certify a patient brain dead despite butterflylion claim to the contrary.
2) Dr. Eben wasn't certified brain dead by his doctors.
3) Brain death is an irreversible process, there's no way Dr. Eben would have been brain dead and regained full neurological function.
4) Felixomor is yet to show me my foolish EEG facts.
5) People experiencing NDE can't perceive time which explains why Dr. Eben thinks he was in an NDE for 7 days.
6) The best explanation for Dr. Eben case was that he experienced his NDE as he was regaining cortical function as explained by a neurologist Professor Oliver Wolf Sacks in this link.https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2012/12/seeing-god-in-the-third-millennium/266134/
7)EEG aren't really needed to certify a patient brain dead
8.) Still waiting for something tangible.
9) Butterflylion and Felixomor have no clue on how Nigerian housemanship works.

felixomor:
Please dont disgrace Yourself more
There is a stipulated time frame for completing house job after medical school.
Quietly admit your mistake

The op caught u on that one flat footed

I was talking about those that didn't study in Nigeria and America that want to practice in those countries. As far as you have MBBS only, no matter how many years post graduation, you're doing housemanship. If your provisional license expires, you get a new one.
You're a doctor naa I shouldn't be explaining all these to you.
You're a doctor, right?
Housemanship is completed in one year, everyone knows that

felixomor:
Hehehehe, house job after 10 years post grad....

Anyway,
Cant u see you are on the defence now?
You see how it easy it was for the op to make you look like a quack?

Me on the defence? Never
Butterflylion is just busy spilling falsehood. I can't standby and watch someone who calls himself a Christian lie blatantly.


Since housemanship is being a problem, let me break it down.
Part of the requirements required for full registration in Nigeria and America is the completion of an internship/house job program. No matter how many years post graduation, as far as you have just MBBS, you're doing that housemanship, there's no discrimination of senior or junior house officer, you're a bloody house officer.

butterflylion:
You get time o. I promised myself not to waste my time responding to someone who says his house job was different from the rest and even claimed he did his house job 2 years after graduation without knowing that a house job is meant to be done the 1st year after graduating from medical school and it's called senior house man or senior house officer when done 2 years after graduating medical school.

How did he not know this? Why say he did his house job 2 years after graduation when it is called senior house man for those who did it after 2years?

Mbok I am both shocked and Confused.

See his comment
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He called it house job for someone who was already 2 years post graduation and somehow by some stroke of confusion Abi na forgetfulness did not know that for such persons who are 2 years post graduation it's called senior house man or senior house officer and not house job. House job is for junior doctors or those who are 1 year post graduation.

Felixomor you get time well well.

Doesn't matter how long you spent post graduation, if you're doing your housemanship in Nigeria, it's called House job.
Stop embarrassing yourself, what you don't know ask.

People 10years post graduation go to America and do housemanship/internship again from the beginning.
I don't know where you're getting your putrid information from.

felixomor:
Apnoea what?

Apnoea test. It wasn't performed to certify him brain dead. The article didn't say so.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2824942/

felixomor:
Good
Those 3 things you listed
Were they in this patient?

Yes or Nay

Nope cos no where in the article was it written that apnoeaof test was performed on him to determine if he's brain dead or not.

felixomor:
Now you have exposed yourself
Was the person in charge of this case, short of such qualification required to make the diagnosis?

I never said the person was short, my question was was he CERTIFIED?
Because in the US, a patient is certified brain dead by a doctor. And from the story, he wasn't.

felixomor:
Answer the question
What device do they use to "certify" brain death?
The answer is simple

Nobody asks for what comes into play?

There's no device used.
The three essential findings in brain death are coma, absence of brainstem reflexes, and apnoea, that's all you need.



Every other thing is ancillary tests like EEG, cerebral angiography, nuclear scan, TCD, CTA, and MRI/MRA

felixomor:
He didnt write rubbish.
You are the one making a mockery of the small medical knowledge u have

Okay, this is for certifying a patient brain dead in America.

Examiner(s) — The number and the expertise of the examiners required to make a brain death varies by state and country [4,5]. Some states (eg, Virginia) specifically require the physician to be a specialist in the neurosciences, while others (Alaska, Georgia) give authority to nurses with subsequent certification by a physician. States and countries also differ as to whether more than one physician is required to certify a patient as brain dead

felixomor:
You are the only one embarrassing yourself.
I was thinking you will counter with facts.
But as usual you switch to irrelevant talk, to convince yourself that you are making sense

Facts?
He should post where he got the quote from then I'll engage him squarely.
For all I know he wrote the rubbish himself, I won't waste my time on that.

felixomor:
Its u who should be running.
Its clear you didnt read the story.

What device is used for "certification" of brain death?
Maybe you think there is actual "certificate'of brain death

A lot of things come into play when certifying a patient brain dead. In the UK for example they don't entirely trust EEG readings for brain death certification.

Brain death is not reversible too, so there's no way the guy was brain dead.

butterflylion:
The diagnosis of brain death is primarily clinical. No other tests are required if the full clinical examination, including each of two assessments of brain stem reflexes and a single apnoea test, is conclusively performed. In the absence of either complete clinical findings consistent with brain death, or confirmatory tests demonstrating brain death, brain death cannot be diagnosed and certified. These guidelines apply to patients one year of age or older.

I keep saying the herbal doctor keeps making things up as he goes along. He no sabi Nada.

Brain death is certified and put in writing for medicolegal reasons.
I wonder how I expect non medics to understand this.
The way a clinical death is certified, same way a brain death is certified, you people should stop embarrassing yourselves.

butterflylion:
Pride no go kill you ooo. Despite how you fall your hand for hia shame no gree catch you ba?

If I respond to you again for hia then my name no be butterflylion. You dey burst my head with your level of zombification and mumunism (make dictionary borrow that word from me joor)

Enjoy your life oga house job yet did not do house job doctor.

Of course, ridicule and ad hominems when you have nothing to say, I've seen your type before.
Just 2 simple things and he's running away.

butterflylion:
F.elixomor he says house job was not a part of medical student life for him yet he said it was during house job he went through the neurological unit.

How many mouth this guy get Abeg?

It wasn't part of my medical school that's for sure.
I didn't school in Nigeria, I was already 2 years post graduation before coming back to do my house job.
You don't know shittttt about me okay?

butterflylion:
Oga quietly bounce to that your whatsapp group. You simply wasted all this time chatting yet saying nothing.

Mr sabi all this one pass your level you hear?

Just bounce before you drop another Bobo that you have performed brain surgery before.

Sure I'll go after you've

1) Showed me where his doctors declared him brain dead
2) Demonstrated how he was able to know beyond every reasonable doubt that he had NDE for 7 days despite it being known that people undergoing nde lose perception of time.