Ferlis:


Hyperglycemia. Type 1 diabetes is the condition. I don't eat chocolate

Undilutedme:
I'm already a student bro.

lawrenzooo:

Wetin carry you come their thread?

Undilutedme:
Kids kee ur head there. Carry your oldage go collect money from first bank na

OJURONGBE1:



Comprehension is a very difficult thing nowadays. You can't even object my observation without insult ? Are you sick in the head?
I never said people that studied these courses don't get jobs at all, all i said was their supply outweighs demand.
Next time, read thoroughly before blurting out stupid statement
s all in the bid to comment .

OJURONGBE1:


Your course of study matters a lot this days.
Courses like history, public administration, soil science, Aquaculture, biochemistry, mass communication, sociology, Anthropology, psychology, philosophy, industrial physics, botany, English & literary studies, business administration, banking & finance (except you're ICAN or CIPM certified), Agric education ,Geography & regional planning, religious studies, Education courses generally and to some extent Law ( except you are extremely brilliant with good grades ) are very useless in this present day Nigeria and their supply outweighs demand.

livinbygrace:
To every young Nigerian youths that just struggled to finished secondary school,if you are not well connected or not from a rich family ,no need of wasting your time in going to higher institution in Nigeria.Its better you go learn a trade,skill or handwork and once you are well established you can go back to school or find your way to leave this country.Do waste your time.

Ferlis:
Good day all. I had to create this account to post this. I need help urgently. PLS I DON'T NEED ANY MONEY. I just need advice and guidance. I'm not myself right now. I'll try to be brief

I turned 27 last week, finished my service in March and work with a private company. I actually started working here after school and 'worked' my posting to serve here and I'm still here. My salary was increased to 200k per month shortly before the lockdown but I'm required to work everyday (mon-sun). No break. Work is going well and I'm okay with the long working hours. No issue

Problem I have is that I'm constantly thinking and worried about my health and future. Nobody except my immediate family is aware that I have a chronic medical condition. I have to inject myself twice daily (morning and night). Sometimes I skip a dose cos I'm fed up but the symptoms become unbearable so I have no choice but to continue with them. Doctors say its hereditary but my parents are fine. Well, my health is not even the issue, I only mentioned it so you'd understand me better

The main problem I have is I constantly feel worthless and depressed. I've been saving since I finished school but only have close to two million naira in savings so far. I tried getting my own apartment but my parents insist it's not wise since my workplace is very close to home and that I shouldn't start incurring so much expenses now

Well, how long will I keep saving before I'm financially stable to afford a good apartment? How long till I'm able to afford a car? Get married and establish my own business?

I'm an introvert and this constant worry has made me withdrawn even more from others. No single friend. I'm even tired of this life. Sometimes I wish I would sleep and wake up a child so I don't have to worry anymore. Other times, I wish I can just sleep and not even wake up.

The least grade I got in school was 'C' which was rare. Mostly 'A' or 'B'. Yet I would constantly cry and feel worse than even those that failed or were going to probate. People hated me for that but it's beyond my control

Let me stop here. Pls, what can I do to be happy and feel good about myself? I'm always worried, sad and frowning my face. Where can I find a therapist, counselor or psychologist cos I feel something is wrong with my brain. It gets so bad I start having intense headaches. Pls I'm tired. I just want this feeling to stop

Vickyboy24:
Can i study medical biochemistry in uniabuja with a jamb score of 246.. Waec.. Mathematics A1,Biology B2,Chemistry B3,Physics B3,English C5.. Hope change of institution is not late?
Lastly, please is it screening or exam that is been done in the school?
In University of Abuja
Please help.. No time again

Ahappy:


Thanks once again, about the jamb question, I mean,will someone write. jamb if he apply via D.E for medicine?

and please help me make enquires from your brother so you can answer my second question on the thread...thank you Sir, I so much appreciate.....

I have passion for psychiatry......I don't if it pays well, but I love to be a psychiatrist...... and if that's not possible,I will opt for other options....


But for now,I wanna strive hard so I can take one step at a time,transfer to anatomy,graduate with an excellent CGPA,by Gods grace.......

and let God take charge of the rest...

Ahappy:


Thanks once again, about the jamb question, I mean,will someone write. jamb if he apply via D.E for medicine?

and please help me make enquires from your brother so you can answer my second question on the thread...thank you Sir, I so much appreciate.....

I have passion for psychiatry......I don't if it pays well, but I love to be a psychiatrist...... and if that's not possible,I will opt for other options....


But for now,I wanna strive hard so I can take one step at a time,transfer to anatomy,graduate with an excellent CGPA,by Gods grace.......

and let God take charge of the rest...

Ahappy:




I don't know how well I should thank you considering your blatant response, so you talked about NYSC,so one must serve before one can apply for D.E for medicine.... wow....

So let talk about the age factor,do the age factor favour your brother, because there's this thing people says and I am not quite sure about it,that of one exceed 30,one wouldn't be able to travel abroad,maybe to work over there,and it's unlikely for one to get employed here in Nigeria, I want you to be talk more about it....

And I thought if one have a degree already,there's no reason for one to apply and sit for jamb anymore...or my assertion isn't correct,maybe you can elucidate better on that.......

samuelpeters:

Let me help him out.

You do not need NYSC to apply for D.E. Except postgraduate.

About the age thing. Age is important quite alright. but it doesn't mean you won't be able to work abroad depending on the route you used in travelling.
I think the point they are trying to make is this, average guys abroad usually graduates early, they are in a better position to secure job easily. While you at 30, would still be trying to settle down, garner some experience etal(age may not really be on your side when everything is set).

But then, age is not really that important as far as you got what you wanted anyways

Except some of these companies that do recuit all graduates from different fields. They give all kinds of conditions to reduce population.Unfortunately, age is one of these conditions. If you want to work in the health field then your experience and Licence are the most important not necessarily your age.

If you are coming through DE, you only need to buy DE form from JAMB and wait for the school to call you for her DE screening. But most DE candidates, do sit for UTME incase DE admission never works.
Why?? Because DE admission is competitive in Medicals but very very very competitive for Medicine in particular. So they don't want to lose admission for that year.

Like @Cetacean said, "his brother got physiotherapy through UTME but rejected it because he really wanted to be a doctor through Medicine or Dentistry"

So everything depends on your priority. Some only wanted to study any medical course(Primary/allied) while some wanted Medicine/Dentistry or nothing!
If Cetacean brother was the former in his priority, he would have become a Physiotherapist.

Ahappy:




I don't know how well I should thank you considering your blatant response, so you talked about NYSC,so one must serve before one can apply for D.E for medicine.... wow....

So let talk about the age factor,do the age factor favour your brother, because there's this thing people says and I am not quite sure about it,that of one exceed 30,one wouldn't be able to travel abroad,maybe to work over there,and it's unlikely for one to get employed here in Nigeria, I want you to be talk more about it....

And I thought if one have a degree already,there's no reason for one to apply and sit for jamb anymore...or my assertion isn't correct,maybe you can elucidate better on that.......

Ahappy:



Sorry to bother you sir,I am a young lad who's seeking for more knowledge,please what uni did your brother graduated from??

and what uni is he attending currently??
what year did he graduated from the uni where he badged his physiology degree??

and was he admitted easily to study dentistry in his current uni?

Ahappy:




Thanks for your response sir,I am really grateful.... Looking at things now,I wanna ask,is it easier/possible to get a first class in human anatomy department?

Ahappy:




Thanks for your response sir,I am really grateful.... Looking at things now,I wanna ask,is it easier/possible to get a first class in human anatomy department?

Ahappy:



I am a student of FUTA currently studying an agricultural course but I don't have passion for any agricultural course(I initially opted to study anatomy but due to some reasons,I was transferred to an agric department).....

I have a plan of studying harder so I can transfer back to human anatomy, for me to be able to move forward in my pursuit of becoming a medical doctor......

So here comes my question, what CGPA must an anatomy student graduate with for him/her to be able to apply for medicine via a direct entry in any Nigeria universities?

And which Nigeria universities can you advice that person to choose(a uni that always accept D.E for medicine without stress)


Thanks,as I am anticipating for your response...

TrustworthyQ:
Radiography PLease

Abatemtem:
Nursing is one of the most fastest growing profession in the world. The diverse opportunities are crazy! Once you leave the shores of this country, the wide range of options will always make you improve.

samuelpeters:
Nope.

Franzinni:
You don't mean it !


This sound like a case of love triangle.

samuelpeters:

They are not even Close at all.
Very independent of one another.
Reason why they are not even in the same school(Pharmacy school and Medical school).

The only thing they have in common on a standard knowledge are
Biochemistry and Pharmacologyy.

Anatomy, physiology and Pathology are just brush courses in pharmacy school. Not too deep like Medical students.

I'm not saying you are wrong oh

Because they are not close is the reason why Pharmacy is not under College of Medicine. The former, some times, is situated in the Main campus while Medicals cross to College which is very close to the university teaching hospital or they all cross but are independent.

SOLADEMIABIODUN:
@cetacean,what do u mean by pharmacy is far from medicine

HeavenlyHolines:
My dear,don't switch oo. I am telling u from experience. Physiotherapists are scare in Nigeria. I know what I am telling u. U can make a lot of money from people through private practice

samuelpeters:

Bro calm down
We ain't fighting.
Its not about being rich or poor. Our focus is medical courses and medical field.

When you calm down to look at my post very well, you would see I didn't attack these courses in any form. I only differentiated what many of us do not know in the health industry in Nigeria and the world at large.

Care to know what a professional course and a professional degree means?
Let me put it this way, some courses are professional courses but are not professional degrees. Example: Accountacy. You will only become a professional accountant by virtue of ICAN and other certification.

Lets narrow it down to Medicals.
All Medical courses except these ones i called "stepping stones" are professional courses and are also professional degrees. Example: MBBS, B.MLS, Pharm.D, B.Nsc, B.Rad, B.MR/DPT e.t.c. These are professional degrees at the same time professional courses because they are all certified/given licence and also inducted into their various professional bodies at the end of their studies, still go for a COMPULSORY uninterrupted 1year training under a certified professional before giving a permanent License for NYSC and Labour Market.

Can that be said about Anatomy, Physiology, Medical Biochemistry, Pharmacology with just BSc.

When you read my post very well, i made mentioned that Universites are greedy. Knowing fully well there is no cut clear path for these courses in the health field. Especially in their undergraduate level/degree.

Ideally, ALL Anatomy, physiology, Medical biochemistry and Pharmacology graduates are supposed to either go back for Medicine/Dentistry/Allied courses or FURTHER to postgraduate.
But what we have is someone with BSc.Anatomy looking for a job after 4years+NYSC. Someone with little or no practical training in the field.

Check round the world, graduates from these courses further into Medical School or Postgraduate School.

All you said about lecturers in these stepping stone courses is correct. Mind you, some are doctors with Masters and PhD in those courses and some are pure breed with Masters and PhD. No one is just with BSc.

So try and get my point.

I'm not saying they can't be successful(I'm not God), all I'm saying is that these universites are the ones not doing it right. Graduates of these courses should also know their BSc. In any of these courses is not the end in itself especially in the Health field. They should thrive to further into postgraduate or medical school or look for a job elsewhere.

Because few of them got job in forensic lab and other sweet places doesn't negate the fact that these courses are a DEAD END if you want to look for a job with just your Bachelors in the health field.

Note: Most love these courses along the line because these courses are purely Medical and they also mix up with other Medical students. They are all treated equally/special in school until they graduate then reality sets in because majority hope to work in the health field but they do not have licence in any of the field.

Can a BSc. Anatomy carry out complex tissue processing in Histopathology Lab more than MLS; Histopathology Major that did practicals, clinical posting from 3rd yr- 5th yr, 1yr internship, 1yr NYSC
That is how many years experience again?

I Love them( I have some as friends). I want peace to reign everywhere i find myself but you also have to do the right thing and tell people the truth.


That is just it.
There is even a thread here on Nairaland about these courses. So many complains from different quarters.

samuelpeters:
Most times, i prefer to make people understand how the health Care system works.

Health workers are divided into Primary health care providers and Allied health care providers.

Primary health care providers are professionals that work almost independent of one another and could work even in the most remote/rural area with little or no modern tools.
They are the foundation of what we come to know as modern medicine.
These professionals are Medicine/Dentistry, Pharmacy and Nursing.

Allied health care providers are professionals that are created due to evolution in medicine.
Their services specifically, is to help the primary care providers to work effectively. These professionals use modern technology in medicine to carry out their job(which makes their job more technical).
Examples are: Medical Radiography, Medical Laboratory Science, Physiotherapy (though has evolved real fast),dental technology, pharmacy technology and other courses he listed above are all answerable to their specialists in the field of either Medicine/Dentistry, Pharmacy and Nursing.

From the above, you can see that i didn't list Anatomy, Physiology, Medical biochemistry, Pharmacology as allied courses because these courses are not meant to be studied at undergraduate level.
Why??
Because it is a stepping stone for other licenced professionals(Primary and Allied) to be effective in their various field.
That means, if you really love these courses(anatomy etal), after obtaining your degree in (Primary/Allied), you can now go for postgraduate in those stepping stone courses.

NB: I will be calling Anatomy, physiology, Medical biochemistry, Pharmacology as Stepping Stone courses. To reduce stress.


From History, Allied providers started as assistants to these PRIMARY professionals with educational requirements as low as primary/secondary school certificate. Later, they(allied) pushed to develop their own curriculum as science continue to evolve and technology continues to be applied in Medicine. Infact these PRIMARY professionals helped in designing the curriculum of these other ALLIED professionals, not for the latter to be equal to the former but for BOTH to work effectively in these Modern days.
Example: No matter how Radiographers would claim they know in Radiation Medicine, they can't beat these Specialists (Radiologists) in the field of Radiation Medicine. Same with Pharmacy Technology in Pharmacy, same with Medical Laboratory Science in Pathology, same with physiotherapy in Orthopedic Medicine, same with Dental Technology in Dental Medicine and so on.

Like i said, these allied providers can go for postgraduate (Masters and PhD in their own field or in the field of stepping stone courses) but can NEVER be an authority in the field. Because the postgraduate is academically based not professionally based like we have in Postgraduate College of Medicine,Nursing and pharmacy which make these people specialists in the field till they get to CONSULTANCY status.

In the western world, some of these postgraduate colleges now admit allied courses but with another path which can also make these allied courses Consultants in their fields.

But in Nigeria, this is the problem we have in the Health Sector.
Medicine(NMA) vs.Others(JOHESU). The former do not want the latter to evolve to its full potential. while the latter are also not serious with upgrading themselves but think by virtue of Masters and PhD should give them Consultancy which is not so(they should all be looking at building their own postgraduate colleges or make peace with Doctors to allow them pass through their own).

Another problem are these stepping stone courses.Universites admit them knowing fully well they have no place in the health field in the undergraduate level. Because normally these courses are suppose to be in the postgraduate level for Primary and Allied courses to Master and do PhD in them or even if they are in undergraduate level, the degree should be used to gain admission into PRIMARY/ALLIED courses not to go look for jobs

Make i stop here. At least this should give you all an idea on which one to choose for JAMBITES.
personally, i will never advice anyone to study these stepping stone courses.

It is better you do allied courses because they are also licensed to carry out their job and are almost independent in private practice. while stepping stone courses are not, thereby leading to frustration.

Note: I focused more on Allied courses because they are not so popular and majority in these courses wanted medicine initially. So it is important you know what you are getting into.