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Who Is Sanusi ?

Someone who couldn't manage simple bank consolidation?

A bigot.

Ritualist

A tribalist

A fanatic

An extremist

A witch-hunter

A Jihadist  

A Sadist

A,

I have it on good authority that Mr. Adoboli is in fact Nigerian, and I understand that the trade involved persuading UBS to lend him two billion for just two weeks! This would enable him to pay a lawyer so he could free up an inheritance of $ two trillion!!! Apparently, UBS stood to make $ one trillion from the trade. So, if you look at the big picture, the trade was not a bad risk at all, in fact Mr. Adoboli’s supervisor should be asked to unresign immediately, and Mr. Adoboli should be given a knighthood! Too bad the bet didn’t pay off (apparently, the lawyer absconded with the $ two billion instead of using it to probate the estate–just bad luck, I guess!), but that’s just a detail!!!

http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2011/09/15/meet-the-ubs-rogue-trader-kweku-adoboli/

Keep quiet for once. Don't come here and rubbish someone's name without evidence.

How did she get the Msc in chemical engineering?

Does PTDF not have a way of verifying people's credentials?

Why do you think she does not worth the scholarship?

Is this the proper medium for you to channel this discovery?

What further evidence do you have to prove your case?

Well, considering the security situation and the boko haram menace, i would advise that you consider lagos. The south seems to be moderately peaceful now compared to the north and abuja in particular. There have been series of discussions on the Nysc, you can check the threads below for further insight.

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-7470.0.html
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-760685.0.html
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-757386.0.html

Well, no matter what one does education is still very important in one's life. The purpose of education is not really to make money but rather to liberate one's mind and expand one's horizon.

Personally, i didn't receive much influence from anyone regarding my choice to further my education. It has always been in me to get to the very last of formal educational pursuit (PhD i think). Irrespective of how rich i might be i may still not feel fulfilled without achieving my childhood dream.

duduspace:
I feel for the guy, the bonus culture in banks needs urgent reforms but they've refused to address it. This chap has not stolen anyone's money but that is what most people are errorneously interpreting this to be. The first Rogue Trader Nick Leeson served only about a 4 years jail sentence and it was not for stealing money but for accounting malpractices in bringing down Baring's bank.
Great article up there by Richtalk.

Exactly my thought. The only crime i have seen here is that he executed an ''unauthorised'' trading. However, had he been successful he would be rolling home with a lot of bonuses and promotion. He would have been tagged an astute analyst. Now that he failed, he's been called a ''rogue trader.'' So much for the world of finance.

coogar:
i take it that all 15-24 yr olds in each region all go to universities, isn't it?
no one goes to other post-secondary schools, polytechnics, technical schools or colleges of education, right?
it seems you still don't know the difference between a degree holder and a higher national diploma holder. . .

the topic of discussion is university graduate . . . . not 15-24 literacy group.
more students within that age group might have preferred to attend other tertiary institutions but a university in the south east more than the south west. this will then skew the statistics and you would not get the accurate figures of who actually bagged a b.sc degree.

i have seen the 2nd link but you are drifting off tangent now.
literacy level at the university level would be more complex because by then there's more migration at the tertiary institution levels.

you have only proven eastern states in general have more literacy level. . . .you have not been able to isolate tertiary institutions or gone deeper to isolate university graduates as we all know tertiary can mean polytechnics, colleges of education and universities. . . .

the stats provided have not supported your claim that there are more graduates in south east universities than the south west.
i will wait patiently for your nysc mobilization stats. . . . . .the stats you provided here is just pissing in the wind.

My reference to literacy level was in response to your claim here;

''you are very correct - the west has the highest number of unemployed graduates and that is because they go to school more than their eastern youths counterparts who populate 90% of the alaba market instead of learning chem 101.''

coogar:
i will download the pdf. . . . . .

you are really a time-waster, ain't you?
all i keep seeing is adult education, primary school and secondary school. . .

where is the statistics about university graduates?
then when it says south east or south west. . . .is that state of origin of the students, or the state of the schools attended?

if chukwuemeka of imo state attends unilag. . .
will the stat reads south east or south west.

I gave you data on literacy level of people between 15—24-year-old. and yet you are asking of stat on university graduates. people who are between ages 15-24 are expected to have graduated or about to graduate from the secondary school and universities respectively. The average graduation age for Nigerian universities is about 24-25 years. So, what do you make of that?

coogar:
i will download the pdf. . . . . .

This is a 2010 publication by the National Bureau of statistics

http://www.nigerianstat.gov.ng/uploads/latestRelease/de4f17834ea0c57a9e1f440d029aebaa460863d0.pdf

All information regarding literacy level in Nigeria are contained therein. If time permits, i may still upload data on Nysc mobilisation by state of origin.

So, there is no basis to suggest that western universities are doing better than SE universities. In fact, i once lived in Oyo and Osun state and i can say that non of these states can match imo and enugu state in terms of refinement and literacy.

coogar:
waec and jamb are immaterial to the topic of discussion.
matriculation is different from convocation. . . .
many actually matriculated with only a fraction of them graduating in the end. . . .

now, let us see your statistics where it says westerners have a lower nysc enrolment than the easterners.

Table 2.1. Literacy Rates by State, 15—24-year-olds, All and Females. 1991
Highest Lowest
State Total Female State Total Female
___________________________________________________________________________________


Imo 95.0 94.2 Yobe 36.9 23.4
Anambra 93.1 92.4 Kebbi 40.5 28.6
Rivers 92.8 90.2 Sokoto 41.1 28.9
Abia 90.4 88.5 Borno 43.2 29.9
Osun 89.4 86.2 Taraba 47.5 26.8
Ondo 89.2 86.6 Katsina 48.4 35.5
__________________________________________________________________________________
Source: Federal Government of Nigeria 2001, table 51.

Table 2.6. Adult Literacy and Rates of Ever Attended School, Selected States, 2001/02
(percent)
Zone/State Adult Literacy (15+ years) Ever Attended School
Male Female Poor Male Female Poor
_________________________________________________________________________
North West
Jigawa 51
Kebbi 32

North East
Yobe 26

North Central
Kogi 74

South East
Abia 87
Enugu 80

South South
Cross Rivers 79

South West
Ekiti 78
_______________________________________________________________________
Note: Poor refers to members of the poorest one-fifth of households.
Source: Various Core Welfare Indicator Questionnaire tables.

South West. With an average rate of participation for 11 year olds of 94 percent, not many children have never been enrolled in school. There is virtually no difference between males and females, or between rural and urban children.

South East. The average rate for 11 year olds is 97 percent. The rural rate is higher than the urban rate and the male rate is higher than the female rate. The lowest among these rates, however, is 93 percent.

http://siteresources.worldbank.org/AFRICAEXT/Resources/no_53.pdf

The above is just an old stat, but it has a lot to say about the Nigeria educational system/enrollment. You can download the PDF document. Unfortunately, i was unable to get data on Nysc enrollment online. But i do have a hard copy of it which is not readily available at the time being.

But you have to understand that, recently the SE tops in school enrollment and Nysc mobilisation.

coogar:
the only school in the east that can stand toe to toe with the 3 schools you listed from the west is uni of nigeria(nnsuka).
others are overhyped polytechnics as far as i am concerned.


you are very correct - the west has the highest number of unemployed graduates and that is because they go to school more than their eastern youths counterparts who populate 90% of the alaba market instead of learning chem 101.

No, you are wrong. Statistics both from Waec, Jamb and Nysc have shown that the SE have the highest enrollment for about a decade or so now. I still think you have been away for too long

naijababe:
How did we get here

coogar just came back from vacation and decided to exhume a forgotten topic.

coogar:
i reiterate, oau is devoid of cultism.
there are several graduates of that school on this forum. . . . .pull them here and let them tell you about awo boys.

awo boys have their court rooms, torture chambers and prison cells for any student that misbehaves.
if anyone is suspected of cultism, he would prefer to be arrested by policemen and locked in the prison than to be taken to the awo boys.

if you don't know - now you know!!!


awo boys are not anti cult group - they are the students' union plus any student interested in preserving peace on the campus.
awo boys are the biggest posse in any nigerian university and the most powerful. . . . .i don't know much about other universities in the south west but eastern schools and some schools in edo/delta states have always been the most notorious in cultism. those in the west are very aware there are other universities in the east and they know most of them are shyte schools - this is why there are more eastern students in the western universities than vice versa.

I stated earlier that other universities have an anti cult group composed mainly of students. How is this different from the awo boys? Let me tell you, only very few western universities can stand south-eastern universities. Maybe only the likes of OAU, UI and maybe Unilag. Quote me anywhere. People graduate from eastern universities and yet grab all the jobs in the west. The west has the highest number of unemployed graduates. So, get your facts right.

You seem to have left home for long.

coogar:
you are a tool of epic proportion.
i reiterate, cultism does not exist in that university. . . .they get beaten up like pickpockets in oshodi.
if anyone has extorted you by saying he's a cult boy of o-a-u, go and collect your money back from him. . . .he's just a wannabe.

i will assume this is how you greet the members of your household every morning.


i was in the campus when that incident happened in july 99.
it was externally planned. boys from the other universities came in to attack members of the students union committee - because some mummy's boys who called themselves boys in oau were apprehended and were beaten to a pulp by awo boys. the awo boys then marched them without clothes to the female hostels to complete the humiliation.

no man born of a woman calls himself a cult boy openly in o-a-u.

just like i have said. . . . . .some little men decided to form a group and called themselves with zero activity in the campus.
in their drunken state, the information leaked and before they could spell saturday, awo boys were on them, invaded their rooms and found a piece of 36 rounds on one of them. they were publicly beaten, mashed and battered. . . . .they went back home to report to external members of the . . . . . .

What you are saying holds no water. As far as Nigerian universities are concerned cultism is the order of the day. OAU may have minimal level of cult activities but that does not suggest that the university is devoid of cultism. The degree of cultism in the west currently is unmatched. You claimed that eastern universities have the highest level of cultism.But Schools like Unad, Lasu, Akintola Uni etc are currently the leading universities in cult related activities.
Cultism is a menace among Nigerian universities, even though there seem to be a change in focus, from cultism to ''yahoo yahoo'' which is currently keeping boys ''busy.''

Every university now has an anti cult group, composed mainly of students. So, it is not peculiar to OAU. My Uni for instance had an anti cult group called ''peace on campus.'' Any suspected cult member, just like in OAU, was severely dealt with by the student security outfit. One thing with Nigerian university students is that those in the west seem not to know that there are other universities in Nigeria except their western universities. The easterners also share the same sentiment. We don't give a bleep about OAU, UI and the rest.

Make dem wait o, make i finish first

BTW: is boko haram not implementing the ''one child'' policy indirectly?

datnigga:
ode ni bobo yi mehn, its ppl like u dt get snipped in the head for thrash talking. first of, i ask sagamite not you nigga! last time i checked, your name is mitoFAG. no wonder, u  r an attention seeking LovePeddler. silly FAGGOTT! mind your fucckking business ma nigga. who r u to tell me what to do wit my time??, if u had a life, wt are u doing on nairaland at 12midnight. please, mind your bizness!! u dont knw me, i dnt knw u and i don't intend to.

u said ppl like me is why nigeria's future is not bright but u r wrong fool. its because of ppl like u who cant converse in a constructive manner. this is why black on black crime is on the increase because now, all u av succeded in doing is inciting anger in me and hence trade of words. Grow up fool, its nt by force to comment on every post! like seriously, who d funk are you to tell me what to do?? egbami

Bros no vex. Na wetin we dey see here o.

Dem just escape from Yaba left.

We still dey look for many of dem

Abeg, if u see anyone around your area call Not-eight-Not

Tanx

A confidential review of the degree classification system has been ordered by Margaret Hodge, the minister for higher education - who left the London School of Economics with a third-class degree - ahead of a White Paper on university funding, expected next month.

This is gradually turning into academic war o. Is she doing this because she graduated with a 3rd or is it because of the inadequacy of degree classifications? Inasmuch as there will be a form of reward system in the universities i doubt if the current discrimination based on class of degree will be entirely wiped-out. For me, i think unemployment is the major reason for the current discrimination. So long as there are very few available jobs there will still be discrimination in terms of class of degree, prestige of institution, course of study and the likes. They are just pursuing shadows.

Just as someone pointed out, professional masters degree are most times "terminal," which means that they tend to give the highest qualification level in their field.An example of professional master's degrees include the Master in banking and Finance (MBF)and the Master of Business Administration (MBA).professional master's degrees teach career-oriented skills and people who earn professional degrees usually enter the workforce right after graduation.So, it focuses on job skills.

This is opposed to the academic masters degree which focuses on teaching and research.For instance Masters of sci in Economics etc.In the course of the programme you are likely to be invovled in field research, take courses in your specialty, and prepare an original thesis.So, this degree is suitable for people who wish to have a PhD in their area of specialty.

However, the line between professional and academic masters in becoming difficult to draw. For instance, those who completed an MBA are also required to submit a thesis report in most universities and majority have successfully built a career in research organisations, including the universities.

in the case of the poster, he intends to work in an IT firm thereafter.I think a professional masters degree will be okay in this instance. I will advise you get a professional masters while taking other professional IT certifications.

apoti:
Do you feel secured cos this is only happening in the north. If it is not curbed now, it will surely get to the south.
Remember if they could visit the UN building, nowhere else is safe  

Very simple. we will send all northerners home. Abia state has already started

apoti:
OMG, What is Nigeria turning to?  

North

27naira:
I really do appreciate your response, Thanks.
I actually feel am running down on age and need some work experience before i pursue further studies. we're riding on the same boat.

your comment is remarkable. Thank you. I really want to do Phd but wouldnt want all the certificates without basic work experience. Though, hopefully, if i take up the program, i'll be involved in a major project and work with world renowned professors. Don't you think am a little old for this? lol just asking.

The truth is, PhD in geophysics at 32 without adequate work experience will not really fetch you much except maybe in academics. I strongly suggest you take up the job and garner few years of work experience and then go back to school if that is your dream. people go for PhD upon completion of Msc only if there is no ready employment for them or they want a lecturing career. In your case, you have the opportunity of working in an oil firm. Also, your PhD may not really add much to your prospects even if the firm decides to employ you upon completion. You will still be struggling for positions with guys with Bsc and Msc with adequate work experience.

After 4-5 years of work experience, then you can get your PhD. After that you may even decide to work as a consultant or take up senior research positions in leading organisations.

27naira:
Am not in Nigeria. My field is geophysics. Actually, the company is an NOC (National Oil Company) of a country i wouldnt want to mention. I have been enjoying the company's scholarship right from when i started my graduate studies in the UK. They offered me a job and also an opportunity to pursue my Phd. I can either go for the job or go for my Phd still under their sponsorship.

If that is the case, i will advise you to take the job. There is always time to do the PhD if that is what you want. PhD these days is mainly for the ego, it does not add more to your pocket, unless you want to lecture thereafter.

Also, you are already 28 and will be about 32 by the time you finish the PhD. At 32, without work experience you may find it difficult getting a job that suits your skills and training. At 32, you will be too old to be taken as a trainee staff and still will not pass for an experience recruit. This poses a great danger, unless if you want to teach.

Take the job, work, marry, save and then go for PhD later. You can take a study leave later, spend two years in the school to satisfy residency requirements and then go back to your job while still on your research.

Life is too short to gamble with opportunities.

my 2cent

Vicjustice:
Are you by this suggesting that the picture is photoshopped or videotricked?
   The fact that most people now use New Generation China-Made phones does not mean that that category of phone no longer exists.

The picture on that video was retrieved from an igbo music video by Oge Nweke - Jesus The Best Connection.

9ja boyz are NOT that stewpid

Check the video here;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYpUTHGcSYw&feature=BFa&list=PLA3795256F26A803C&lf=results_main

fagamite

Sagamite:
There is no way someone can fake or prepare for an inchoate, random chat about anything and everything. Such stuff should form the bulk of recruitment (especially for smaller firms). Strategy Consultancies engage in this practice in getting their talent.

Organisations might not be able to achieve perfection but they can do better than they are doing now.

Most of the HR guys are just lazy and conservative. I once attended an Apt test/interview at Ernest and Young, Nigeria and was amazed at their nonprofessional and haphazard approach to recruitment. This is supposed to be an in't coy. Imagine people struggling to write a test as late as 7-8 PM!

Your approach seems plausible, companies like shell and the likes seem to use it. But how many organisations will have the luxury (time, money, personal) to handle such an approach to recruitment, especially when it is mass recruitment.It is ideal for small companies as you identified, those employing very few people where overall intelligence is required to perform the job well.

Sagamite:
I said I will dump "majority" of the HR hulabula (especially the competency questions utter jargons), not all. Things like case study, mock scenarios are useful.

If I was employing thousands at entry level, I will have multiple streams.

1) Definitely I would have a stream that requires those with 2.1 and above in certain fields.

2) I will have another stream that is specifically for those that those without 2.1 and above.

3) I will have a stream for those that have been unemployed since graduation (just to help under-privileged Nigerians).

Most likely (1) will take 50% of my vacancies and the other half will go to the rest.

I will not share (2) and (3) because:

a) When I start using it in future, saying it now might blow my anonymity.

b) They are formats I should charge for, not share for free.

If I was running a multinational, all I need to do is cascade responsibility of 30-mins chat to the few I have identified as the clerisy in the firm. Strategy Consultancies do this.

I am not a follower, never been. I have never been scared to be unconventional and a maverick that pauses and take a different look from what everyone else is doing. Actually that is my life's signature (E.g. "To hell with religion" or "abrasive approach on NL". So please don't doubt the feasibility of my plans even though I am not revealing.

The truth is, there are no sure ways of getting the ''best'' candidate for the job. Organisations only devise approaches/metrics they consider pertinent in getting a suitable candidate for the job.  At the end, what they get is a candidate who is able to scale through all the recruitment huddles (test, interviews, assessment day etc) and not necessarily one who can do the job.

If i were to own a company i would rather take entry level employees through internship/NYSC. I would open doors for students seeking to intern with my company, and in the process identify those who have certain skill set that may be/are required in the organisation.

Lets start from here. Are you in Nigeria or US? If the company is sponsoring your PhD, is there possibility you would be employed after your PhD or will start looking for another job thereafter? In what field are you doing the PhD and how relevant is it in the industry?

These are a few pertinent questions you need to answer before you take the leap.

Pukkah:
@chamber2, on what basis is the Governor of a state the Chief Security Officer when he does not command any security agency? He's just a Security Officer on paper.

But he can effectively command them to rig elections?

reindeer:
Methinks they all share the blame
If the doofus GEJ had taken drastic actions after all the different committees and panels submit their reports, the situation may have been helped. All the Ewu just does is to constitute more panels.
Jang is a silly man but so is the sitting president who never takes action. They tr=throw blames around while people are being killed daily.
This is just too sad and annoying.

This problem have been lingering for a long time, even during OBJ tenure. Don't blame GEJ on this he can't perform magic.

This man is talking nonsense!

Is he not the chief security officer of the state?

Why wait on the federal govt before protecting your people?

Incompetence is the word.

coogar:
mr oyb the idiotic beast of burden.
what did wale pass out with? whether he went to ife or unilag does not storm the direction of my argument.
the fact that he spent 10 yrs for a 5-yr course should also be a pointer that he wasn't your 1st class, 2-1 or 2-2 student.
he got a 3rd class and he scaled the ccie hurdle before many of the first class graduands in nigeria - that is my argument.

why is he feeling like he's discovered the cure to aids?
hiv, have you had something to eat this evening?
perhaps, it's your menstrual cramps!

Now, you are resorting to insults and name-calling. You said he graduated from IFE with a third class and that has been proven wrong. you once jumped into conclusion that all eastern universities are crap without even stepping your toe in any of them. You rely on what you hear from people, who probably feel deprived of their place in the Nigerian society. I wonder why you make hasty conclusions and generalisations. That is atypical of ''foreign'' trained graduates.

AjanleKoko:
Don't embarrass yourself further. You don't know who he is, beyond maybe hearing about him from your 'siblings'.

Probably.He seem to rely so much on hearsay.