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Oga, what's the cause of begging? Is it lack of education, lack of opportunities, lack of healthcare, lack of commonsense, lack ofhuman feeling, laziness, stubbornness, religious beliefs, corruption,wickedness, competition, etc? What exactly is the cause of begging and what should fasola do? Why should Lagos state provide for the whole country? Why must every handicapped person aggravate towards Lagos? How can the economy of Lagos be sustained if its workforce are all handicapped beggers? And why must the government do everything?
i saw our guard in Lagos. He abandoned his post in Abuja and was riding okada in Lagos. Lagos has a strong gravitational pull for these beggers because they are also swayed by the promise of hitting it big begging.

Oga, so you are asking the cause of begging in an environment riddled with poverty and misery?A country where even the educated cannot find a stand not to talk of the less fortunate.Where will he dump them if he sends them away?

Nigerian leaders will never cease to amuse me. Rather face the developmental challenges facing them, they are busy pre-occupying their minds with trivial issues.So, Fashola wants to teach me how to spend my money eh? I can decide to throw my money to all the beggars in lagos to all i care.

Rather than confront the real cause of begging, he is busy promulgating draconian laws.Create opportunities for them and they will stop begging.Why not recruit them to clean the roads, drainage and other menial jobs.

chamber2 please come and say what you think about this guy? I want you to be the judge yourself so you can state whether you thought I was disparaging the average Naija student by saying our education is finish.

I have never disputed you.I came out as plan as possible.But i think you will make a lot more sense and impact if you correct people without resorting to insults and name calling.It makes people to challenge you even when you are saying the right thing.

My arguments with you was partly my fault and partly yours.Mine in the sense that i was assuming that you were just listing qualities that could make those governors succeed and yours because you seem not to accommodate other people's opinion, whether sensible or senseless.

Our school system is in shambles, agreed.It's part of the decay in the entity called Nigeria that requires urgent attention.Nigerian students/graduates are not that bad as you portray, but the environment makes them  appear dull and lazy.I have been in the same class with a few Asian guys, except those who attended good secondary/universities, others are nothing to write home about.

We need the support of people like you to revamp the system.I am yet to read your articles in any of our dailies or journals.You could start from there like the likes of jarus, Aja etc.Displaying superiority on NL will not make impact.I read your comments in one of the links you provided, i think you are not doing badly.

Knowledge is so diverse, and no single individual can claim monopoly of it. So, lets try to be humane.

hmmm, people get time ooo

The nysc is done just once.So, you don't need to serve again unless you want to do that for the fun of it.

Did you make a pass degree b4

the era of suffering and smiling is over. Lets see what the outcome of this suit is gonna be.

AFederal High Court sitting in Ibadan, Oyo State, has fixed hearing for May 18, 2011 on the litigation instituted by an Ibadan-based legal practitioner, Mr Oluwole Aluko, against President Goodluck Jonathan and the Attorney-General of the Federation and Minister of Justice, Mr Mohammed Adoke SAN, over the National Youth Service Corps (NYSC) scheme.

In suit number FCH/IB/CS/35/2011, Aluko is claiming that the NYSC Decree of 1973 is in contravention of the provisions of the 1999 Nigerian Constitution and African Charter on Human and Peoples Rights and the United Nations Universal Declaration on Human Rights.

The Senior Advocate of Nigeria, therefore, raised the following questions of law that require the court’s determination.

•Whether the National Youth Service Corps Decree of 1973 by which every Nigerian below the age of 30 years that has completed his/her first degree at any university in Nigeria is liable to be called upon to serve in the service corps for a continuous period of one year is inconsistent with section 34(1) (a) (b) and (c) of the 1999 Nigerian Constitution that confers on every citizen the right to personal dignity and freedom from inhuman and degrading treatment, slavery or servitude and freedom from performing forced or compulsory labour.

•Whether the provision of section 34 (2) (e) (111) is applicable to the National Youth Service Corps having regard to the word “part of the education and training“ in that section and having regard to the fact that the National Youth Service Corps is not an educational institution.

•Whether the National Youth Service Corps Decree of 1973 by which every Nigerian below the age of 30 years that has completed his first degree at any university in Nigeria is liable to be called upon to serve in the service corps without guarantee for safety of life of the corps members where they serve is inconsistent with the provision of section 33 (1) of the 1999 Nigerian Constitution that guarantees the rights to life of every person and therefore null and void.

*Whether the National Youth Service Corps Decree of 1973 by which every Nigerian below the age of 30 years that has completed the his first degree at any University in Nigeria is liable to be called to serve in the service corps without any liberty as to prefence of place to serve is inconsistent with the provision of section 35 (1) of the 1999 Nigerian Constitution that confers right to personal liberty on individual and non and void.

Barrister Aluko also wants the court to determine, whether the National Youth Service Corps scheme by which Nigerian youths and graduates below age 30 years are forced to take part in the National Youth Service Corps scheme is a violation of the African charter on Human and Peoples Rights and Universal Declaration of Human Rights by the United Nations Organisation of which Nigeria is a signatory and therefore null and void.

*Whether the provision of section 12 (1) of the National Youth service Corps decree of 1973 by which there can not be employment anywhere in the federation for the any university graduate except on the production of the discharge certificate or exemption certificate issued by the Directorate of the National Youth Service Corps constitutes act of compulsion and if the answer is in the affirmative ,whether the National Youth Service Corps Decree is invalid having regard to the provisions of sections 33, 34, 35 of the 1999 Nigerian constitution.

*Whether the violation of the provisions of the 1999 Nigerian Constitution confers right on any citizen of Nigeria to seek redress in court having regard to the provision of section 1 (1) and (3) of the 1999 Nigerian constitution that make the provisions of the constitution to be supreme and having binding force on all authorities and persons and any law that is inconsistent with it null and void.

http://tribune.com.ng/index.php/news/21915-lawyer-drags-jonathan-agf-to-court-over-nysc-scheme-wants-nysc-decree-abrogated

I can't stop laughing See customer service.Eh, 9ja i hail thee.

Moderator, please move this post to the front page

Be humble and learn from those ahead of you in the profession.

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Please fellow nairalanders, I need help concerning materials and other helpful information about this project topic, FISCAL FEDERALISM AND DISPARITY IN POVERTY ACROSS STATES IN NIGERIA,
My supervisor said I should bring proposal on friday

Who chose the topic for you?Why selecting a project topic, try and choose a re-searchable one in order not to encounter problems in gathering materials.The problem with Nigeria is that it is often difficult to get information regarding govt activities on the internet.But try and visit the Ministry of finance website,Cbn,library and book shops.Also, check your school library to see if someone has written something on this topic before.

You could also search the internet to get information on the concept of fiscal federalism and how it is practiced in other countries.

Good luck

Lets pray this yields a positive result. The perpetrators of this violence must be brought to book.

THE Federal Government has ordered a full-scale investigation into the post-election violence in the northern part of Nigeria, leading to the gruesome killings of nine National Youth Service Corps (NYSC) members on election duties in Bauchi State.

President Goodluck Jonathan, on Monday, made good his promise to bring the perpetrators of the dastardly act to book, when he approved the constitution of a 22-member probe panel headed by Sheik Ahmed Lemu.

Lemu, a former Grand Khadi of Niger State, was also the chancellor of Fountain University, Osogbo, Osun State.

President Jonathan had vowed to deal with all those behind the widespread violence in the northern section of the country, arising from the declaration of the results of the 2011 presidential election which he won.

He equally promised the establishment of a judicial commission of inquiry to examine the remote and immediate causes of the crisis, even as he vowed that those who instigated the violence would surely be brought to book.

The Secretary to the Government of the Federation, Alhaji Mahmud Ahmed Yayale, in a statement announcing the constitution of the investigative panel in Abuja, said the panel would also investigate the pre-election violence in Akwa Ibom State, where four people were reportedly killed and vehicles worth N2 billion destroyed.

The SGF, in statement with Reference number Ref. No.SGF.19/S.108/5 and signed by the Permanent Secretary (GSO), Mr Femi Olayisade, entitled “Constitution of Federal Government Investigation Panel on Election Violence and Civil Disturbances,” said the panel would be inaugurated by the president tomorrow by 11.00 a.m in the Council Chamber, Presidential Villa, Abuja.

The panel would also ascertain the number of persons who lost their lives or sustained injuries during the violence and identify the spread and extent of loss and damage to means of livelihood. It would also assess the cost of damage to personal and public properties and places of worship and make appropriate recommendations.

Other terms of reference included investigating the sources of weapons used in the unrest and recommending how to stem the tide of illegal flow of such weapons to the country.

While Sheikh Lemu will serve the panel as chairman, Justice Samson Uwaifo (retd) would serve as the vice chairman with Mr F. F. Ogunshakin serving as the secretary.

Other members of the panel included Reverend Father Idowu Feron; Alhaji Muhammadu Danmadami, Chief Ajibola Ogunshola; Mrs Lateefat Okunnu; M. B. Wali; Dr (Mrs) Timiebi A. Koripamo-Agary; Comrade Peter Esele; Alhaji Muhammed Ibrahim and Professor Femi Odekunle.

The rest were Ambassador Ralph Uwuche; Alhaji Bukar Usman; Sheikh Adam Idoko; Major-General Mohammed Said (retd); Mr P.C. Okorie; Mr Shamsuna Ahmed; Major-General L.P. Ngubane; Alhaji Sani Maikudi; Rear Admiral I. Hotonu and serving member of NYSC.

http://tribune.com.ng/index.php/news/21704-fg-begins-probe-of-corps-members-killings-inaugurates-22-member-panel

For those that thought they had an angle of attack by their "genius" contrast of Oshiomhole to Amechi and why I labelled the former as "not highly educated", stop fooling yourelf.

I did not respond because I don't allow people I have cornered try and change the topic by some silly diversion, which is typical of half-baked graduates that can not back up their statements. I permanently have my strawman-blocker on.

When I finish with the person I can then answer. I am NEVER scared of defending my assertions. My assertions come from a wonderful place where ratiocination is extremely robust, hence they are easy to defend.

Oshiomhole did not attend university in his youth. And when he decided to attend in older age, he went to a "college", which no matter how good it is, it is still not a university and can't be that good if it is an adult college. The stronger the university, the robust the testing of one's intellect and challenging one to think. Evident in the "graduates" our nation is now producing when their debating style is contrasted with Nigerian kids on NL studying abroad. We get conjectures and adages as the "facts" of our Nigerian products. I have seen it several times on NL.

Furthermore, the NIPSS that Oshiomhole attended is a "TRAINING" institution, not a degree awarding institution (I think). Hence, people are "participants", not "students" or "graduates". There is no rigorous test of what is learnt, it is just (probably) a rigorous set of activities that force participants to briefly apply what is learnt.

The same so-called NIPSS, that is supposed to be the Nation's No. 1 so-called "think-tank" does not have a website.

Let me try and recall . . . . . . . . . what year are we in again?

2011?

And the leading think-tank in Nigeria does not have a website?

F me!

And some people want me to take it as some kind of Harvard!

Their intelligence is below my feet!

That said, that does not take much away from Oshiomhole's achievement and intentions so far in his life. Formal education is not everything.

Whenever i read nonsense like this i can't help but laugh. What does education mean to you if i may ask? Does education mean a building or  gathering of individuals for the purpose of learning ?

I had decided not to respond to your post, but when i noticed your total display of ignorance I couldn't hold myself anymore.So, because Oshomole went to a college at an older age makes Amaechi and Sullivan more educated? Does the level of one's education measured by the institution one attended?God help me.

For your knowledge, education is the acquisition and utilisation of knowledge for the activation of positive outcome.It is not really evident in the possession of a degree.Degree is only but an evidence of schooling, which to me is not education.Any activity that exposes the participant to knowledge acquisition can be termed education, whether done in a class room, at an older age or outside a structured environment.

That said, that does not take much away from Oshiomhole's achievement and intentions so far in his life. Formal education is not everything.

You have also come to my conclusion.For your information, Oshomole had  formal education.The fact that he attended the colleges you mentioned means he had formal education which is not by any means inferior to the ones attended by the others.

which is typical of half-baked graduates that can not back up their statements.

I don't blame you.I blame the internet.If you are subjected to the same condition in which an average Nigerian student learns I wonder if anything will remain of you.You are only but a priviledged bigot.

@ Bluetooth: Are you Igbo or Yorooba? Just curious!

He is Togolese

@~Bluetooth

you no get work?

what exactly is the problem though? The fact that people type "Ibo" or the fact that people pronounce it as "ibo"? Because if it's the latter, then the whole of Nigeria is guilty as charged. So, why attacking Yorubas then?

I think both. The later can be pardoned though due to pronunciation problem.

Seriously though, I personally, don't write/type "Ibo" instead of "Igbo"

Now you are talking.

Almost every Igbo that comes on NL says the same thing, until they're changed by Yoruba-Hating Igbos.

No one hates yoroobas, but their stupidity is irritating

Start by writing a letter(s) to WAEC, NECO, JAMB---e.t.c, that a national correction needs to be made! Tell them to start deducting huge marks from students that write "IBO" instead of "IGBO" in their exams!

And you will think you are smart.Yorooobas always complicate issues.What is wrong in saying,''i used to be wrongly called Ibo,I am Igbo instead?''

You will totally lose nothing by doing that. Behaving like motor park touts is not a way to show supremacy. Believe me, it is totally not.

That is exactly what they are, both male and female.

To start with, what does it matter if you are called ibo or yorooba or awusa as long as you know what the person saying it is refering to.
Its annoying to know what some people like the posters and all others that are spewing rubbish here found to be offensive.
The poster is just a senseless showing how tribalistic and immatured he is.

If it doesn't matter to you,it matters to me.

What other issues CAN'T be bigger than this!?

Yorubas posting senseless comments

What I'm saying is : There are bigger issues to be delt with.

What other issue can be bigger than this?

Igbo--means a bunch of stuffs in Yoruba! Indian Hemp is one of those things.

And what will you gain by derailing an important thread like this?It is obvious that people make the mistake of saying ''ibo'' rather than Igbo, but must we allow it to continue?

Now learn it, it's Igbo and not Ibo.

[b]what do you expect  a yoruba or other nationalities to do [/b]when it's already known to them that ibos are ibo even the so called ibos too still prefer to use the word ''ibo''

We expect them to know that we are Igbos and not Ibos.

and the silly thread made the frontpage

what is silly about this thread?

Chei, so if everyone starts to call them IBO(something which most already do), then they will lose their identity.

People are known and often identified by their names. How would you feel if you are called by some Else's name?

Take it easy.Go to Lagos and take a little survey;come back here and tell me you hear anything apart from ''IBO''.if you do,then I will stop using

It's not about what people say rather what people feel.

I commend the poster for his effort and observation. I am Igbo but seem not to know the etymology of the word ''ibo''.I often make the mistake of saying ''Ibo'' instead of Igbo. It is good to make this correction to avoid it being a generational mistake. People are identified by their names, and when you lose your name you lose your identity.I pronounce and write both Hausa and Yoruba correctly though.

It is. Encounters with such types can be quite a spirit shattering experience experience; you feel somehow dirtied by the experience.
It is so painful that such folk are all too common, some are illiterates, others are very highly educated and seemingly smart (like S**ago here),

there are yet others with deep personality issues

(s**amite).

The single story is always driven by one form of bigotry or the other, in certain cases, by psychological issues (attention seeking, esteem etc).

You are very correct. I had an encounter with one recently.

I want to start avoiding the tribalists.

That will be a very huge war for you. Everyone on NL is somewhat an intellectual.

You are very right but we really need to put an end to this tribalism and fighting in nairaland as whole especially in the politics section.

Will there really be an end to tribalism in Nigeria?Especially when we are still tied to the apron of superiority complex.