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debosky:
Extremely rash propositions by you Dudu - you've somehow managed to link a loss in a (meaningless) reserve game to a lack of talent coming through their academy to implying the club will end up finishing outside the top 4??

When they destroyed Arsenal at the Emirates wasn't it Rooney and Nani that ran the show? Those two (for example) will be around for the next 5-7 years at least so they are ok as far as I'm concerned.

Utd has more than enough talent, heck more than half of their first team will ALWAYS meet the homegrown rule and they are too well managed to ever go the way of Liverpool. There is way too much going on at Utd for them to ever go the way of Liverpool - their revenue geneation alone is more than sufficient to guarantee that.

It's one thing to claim their youth team isn't up to scratch, it's another to use that to define the whole club's future. Giggs and Scholes are important, but there is a heck of a lot of quality aside from them. That aside, Utd ha the greatest drawing power for talent in England, aside from Frenchies who'll always prefer Arsenal. There is absolutely no cause for alarm at Utd, except for maybe a temporary dip, which is in itself unlikely.

He scored two lucky goals last weekend, there's nothing much to speak about as yet.

Bros Debosky, you get sense wella . . . so because the reserve team lost 4-1 . . . we can then conclude that they are all rubbish and cant make it into the first team.

I bow for some reasoning o . . . .

mykali:
i'm glad you've heard of it. . .
bcuz it relates to you tooo well

The table doesn't lie mate

tkb417:
it can be 1-2 if u field smalling, Fabio, Brown again

and u can also combine Fletcher Park and Gibson in d middle

When Smalling, Fabio and Brown played in defence . . . . they kept a clean sheet.

debosky:
No one was comparing Koko to anyone else, abeg free Laurent jare.

That guy is a suspect . . . .trust me.

His cover will be blown soon

[quote author=Bamsyle. link=topic=506211.msg6768057#msg6768057 date=1284679451]Well, some people don't mind . . .

Fact is - some people are tired of this gang-despoil on Rap Music . . . all in the name of commercializin' . . . it's gone on for too long . . .

Soulja Boy and Plies??

May Amadioha roast their scrotums and feed them to vultures!!![/quote]Im afraid but that's where the industry is heading at at the moment.
We hear more Soulja boy tracks on radio these days than the likes of Nas, J.cole etc.

Too many junks everywhere . . . .real catz never gets heard.

I think I know this chick
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[quote author=A-40 link=topic=506211.msg6767967#msg6767967 date=1284677732]Promising Dude is the future abeg that bobo is terminally ill ohh no cure for his own lyrical cancer i just hope he can make it in this crazy Lady Gaga, Taylor Swift world of ours he sounds too underground for his own good at times. I am finna crack the forehead of the next person that would make that annoying comparison of Drake to him!! Thats like saying i am richer than Carlos Slim[/quote]That is the problem.
He must find a way to be more commercial if he wants to make it to the top.
With the likes of Soulja boy and Plies gettin more airwaves, he has to commercialise some of his tracks

Thank You Jesus

Cristalz:
Guys, bad day at the office. End of.
So, the players were off on the night. Happens to the best teams.

That was exactly what I was trying to point out to my bro TKB.

We were off on the night regardless what team played.

Cristalz:
Let's forget about it and discuss our fantasy line-ups for Liverpool.

I think Fergie will stick to 4-4-2 cos of Berba's form.

Nani and Giggs out wide with Scholes and Flether in the middle.

The only doubt is whether he will play Rio ahead of Evans.

tkb417:
2-1 for UTD

Why not 1-2?

mykali:
@Chamotex
I just had a bad GW due to some miscalculations and Drogba's laziness.
I'm climbing that ladder this week.
You on the other hand. . .should start crying

Mykali, have you heard this Ludacris track . . . . .'HOW LOW CAN YOU GO' ?

y me:
my frd put smile for that face before i rearrange am for you with kiss

You that disowned me

mykali:
[size=15pt] SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT[/size]

On Thursday, the 16th of September 2010, at 1533 pm, the entire Club and Management staff of F.C Kalizmatik was sold to His Royal Magnanimity, Chief Alaye Alapuberesisika Kemebradikumo BenJackson, an Oil Magnate of Nigerian origins who hails from the Okrika Tribe of Rivers State. At a time when the club was failing due to mis-management from its former owners, Brazhnov Renko and Gregvnik Solokova, owners of a Russian Oil Syndicate who are under investigation by the CIA for their involvement in the Russian Mob, there was need for an urgent change in ownership.
Chief BenJackson has already gone ahead to appoint his illustrous Son, Prince Dr, TamunoMykali Besiki-Koko BenJackson, as the new manager of the club which is now to be named Abuloma Boiz FC, giving it a more traditional look.
More details about this will be published later.

FPL News

Either way, your team is still doomed for failure. I'm sorry

dayokanu:
It might even be till end of the yr Maybe December cos he hasnt started training.

Bayern team Doctor who is the best Sport doctor in the Whole world confirmed this. So No Robben for a while

Na wetin I ask you be that?

Ibime:
Both he who compared Vela's performance at youth level to Messi and he who claimed Vela has Messi potential are nitwits. It would be a compliment to compare such nincompoops to chimpanzees cos even chimpanzees have the ability to learn.

Are you indirectly calling Debosky and his fellow gaynners nitwits?

dayokanu:
@Chamotex,

Robben was injured and the Dutch team made him play the world cup he now has a 5cm tear in the muscle. Bayern is suing the Dutch FA for compensation and the case is in court for deliberately making an injured player play

Yeah I know, it's been over 2 months now.
I thought they said he was only going to be out for 2 months.
I didn't realise it was that serious.

It's cold here maynne

HNIC:
Why not?
At least,Stanley Okoro is known as the 'Nigerian Messi'

Yes o
Ikemefuna and Dombraye should also be added to that list

TKB and Debosky needs agbo

debosky:
What is the basis of comparison for Bebe? Did he excel at FIFA youth level like Messi and Vela did?

Vela won a youth tourney with Mexico along with the golden boot - that is one of the key points of comparison. Besides, players delivers on their potential at different points.

So any player that shines or succeeds at a youth tournament should now be compared to Messi?

The Bebe comparison was a 'tongue in cheek' comment

tkb417:
then get a replacement. why did he buy Bebeski?
sharrap and read all we have been saying
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workhaholic, midfield machine, where is the playmaker?
mr coach, where is the playmaker?
i agree it was a bad day due to one or two reasons
and thats what we are discussing.

Yes, you can call me coach cos I do have an FA coaching bagde

Playmaker ko, matchmaker ni
There were enough players in that midfield that can create chance . . . we just couldn't create on the night . . . . .  simple as that.
Why not tell Fergie to go and loan Ozil

debosky:
Nani was the reason y'all beat Arsenal. .  .was he there on Tuesday?  

Oh now, Nani is now the reason we beat you?
I've disowned you as my brother starting from today

debosky:
Were you starting off with so many players who had never played together?  

Apart from Smalling and Hernandez, the rest have all played together before, and for so many years.
Tell me something else abeg.

tkb417:
This guy, i dont understand how u watch your own football oh

The games Valencia and co copped assists, u'll find either scholes, carrick or even Giggs on the field. The 3 of them CANNOT be absent in a match

How many times have you grilled Carrick on this thread just this season alone asking if he has been sold to West Ham, all of a sudden, he should be the hero.

Giggs and Scholes will prolly be starting on Sunday . . . you wan kill them ni.
Na wa o

It was a bad performance, get over it!

TKB, you are just repeating yourself.

You talk about lack of creativity and I gave you the fact about who created most of our goals last season.
So what are you talking about.

Evra was leading player with assists? Are you kidding me?

Go and bring out the assist chart.

Let me ask you again. Hernandez and Gibson were the only two players that didn't feature against the Arses at the Emirates last season not considering the defence. So what lack of creativity in the team are you talking about. What more do you want?


Yes, on the night we created nothing . . . . but that was beacause we didn't play well and Rangers did not because the players cannot create but we just couldn't create on the night.

It can happen to anyone at anytime. These players cant play well in every match.
It was a poor performance . . . . that was all.

debosky:
Dunno why there's all this fuss - we're talking potential [/i]here - Vela was immense at youth level like Messi so it isn't ridiculous to think he has a similar level of [i]potential even if he hasn't delivered on it, or never delivers on it.

Judging potential is not an exact science, and is more of an opinion more than anything. Leave us be with our opinions.

Was? What about now?
Yes potential is not an exact science, but at least there should be some meaningful perspective here.
Can I also say BEBE has the potential to be Messi? since we are talking about potential here

How old is Messi and how old is Vela?

debosky:
Re-read my post - quality wasn't the only issue per se, it was more a case of the magnitude of change. You can put the best 11 players in the world into a team and still get a poor performance due to lack of cohesion.

Attacks were uncoordinated and Hernandez appeared lost for most of the game.

Apart from Hernandez and Smalling, all the other players have played together for many years.
It was just a bad performance in general.

dayokanu:
Like this is something new? Every big club experience this. Which team would go to Nou Camp and open up or even in Bernabeu?

Roma a normal attacking side came to Munich last night and packed a trailer. The possesion stats was like 75% to 25% , Total shots taken were 16 to 3 in favour of Bayern.

Yet that didnt stop Bayern from winning.

The summary is that Manure suck

Are you saying Bayern has never had a game where they should have won and failed to do so?

Vela to become Messi?
I laugh in Otapiapia

;d ;d ;d

debosky:
Not saying that. . . .just pointing out the lack of creativity. If Giggs can't play game in game out, at least Nani can.

I agree . . . but dont you also agree that other players need chances and games to prove themselves.
Since Nani will surely be starting against Liverpool, isn't it right to give other players (good enough) a chance to get some minutes under their belts.

debosky:
Too many wholesale changes influenced the poor performance, not the quality of players alone - Hernandez, Park, Gibson, Smalling, Fabio, Brown and Kitkat. Naturally the team lost rhythm and fluidity because they were mostly playing together for the first time this season and it showed.

True . . . we can argue that there was too many changes but still, we were playing at home not away.
If this game was played at Ibrox, then no complaints from me.

We were barely tested at the back . . . but there was no cutting edge going forward.

Is Robben's injury that serious?

Eastbay:
^^^^^^
I still am trying to wrap my head around tkb's submission about having a right mix (added to parrot/tatafo debosky's usual off-sight comments on anything United).
How a team comprising of Rooney,Valencia,Fletcher isn't the "right mix" is beyond me.

Knee-jerk reaction.
TKB is just angry we didn't win which is understandable

jalether:
I partly agree with eastbay and chamo

The players fielded against rangers were good enough to win the game. especially at old trafford.

Chelsea started 3 non regulars and introduced another 3 youngsters later in the game and still won the game away from home emphatically

but on the otherhand. . . .tkb's assertion on the right mic holds some validitity as well. . . . you tailor your resources and formation according to the opponent

fergie knew rangers were gonna park the bus like many other teams do at old trafford the creativity was crucially lacking the break the resistance.

both fergie and the players must share the blame

You are totally right . . . . how that team is not good enough to beat Rangers at OT beats me.
If the players played up to their potential we would have done better but not every player (not even Messi) can play well in every game.
The performance was poor . . . . no doubt but the selection was good enough . . . not the best but was good enough.

90% of teams that come to OT come to park the bus, we are used to that.
I dont blame Fergie at all . . . I blame the players.

debosky:
Precisely - Fergie got the balance wrong. Everyone knew Rangers would work their butts off and would be very disciplined. What you needed was guile/creativity to unlock them. Once Giggs came in, you saw a difference with his crossing and dribbling, but it was all too late.

Giggs is frigging 37 years old. Do you expect him to play in mid week and then play in a big game against Liverpool on Sunday?

I repeat, that team was good enough . . . the players didn't perform . . . . simple!
In midfield, only Gibson didn't start against the Arses at the Emirates last season, so what right mix was Tkb talking about?
UP front - we had Wazza, our top scorer . . . what more does he want abeg.

If the trio of Valancia ( a major provider of most of our goals), Fletcher (our midfield machine) and Park (the workaholic) is not good enough according to TKB, then he should go and support Accrington Stanley in League 2

It was just a bad day at the office and people are already reacting like its never happened before.

tkb417:
what are u saying?
Valencia, Park and Fletcher in midfield?
where is the creativity gonna come from? u think na fantasy league where u can field 4 wingers at a time

that was a silly combo and a rubbish selection

Jeeeeezzz!!! Sometimes I wonder if you are truly a United fan or know anything more about the team.
You've known this team for a long time and you are talking like this. Like I said before it's still a knee jerk reaction on your part.

That team is good enough  . . . . . FACT!!!
Valencia, Fletcher and Park in  midfield . . . . .  3 of which started in our biggest games last season againt Chelsea and Arsenal
Creativity? Valencia that was one of our leading assisters last season and I can even remember setting up a couple this season already.

TKb I dont want to believe you are saying this seriously.
Who else should have played in that midfield on Tuesday night? Prolly Nani because you dont expect Scholes to play 3 games in a week at his age . . . . I'm sure even you should know that.



Our top scorer last season and arguably our best player Rooney, didn't he play 90 minutes?
Apart from Fabio, Gibson and Smalling . . . . every other player that played have International experience.

tkb417:
they were good enuff and ethey didnt win?

What kind of statement is this?

Yes they were good enough but we didn't win.

The team that played Everton last week, weren't they good enough? Did we WIN?
The strong team that lost to LEEDS in the FA cup last season, weren't they good enough? Did they WIN?