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IslamRe: Quranic Miracle: Imamate And Numerology by Cheers01: 4:07pm On Jun 24, 2012
LagosShia: @logicboy/Cheers01

you cannot debunk it.watch the video where Shabbir Ally gave a good explanation of why he believes in its (Quran numerology) significance.you cannot say you have destroyed another man's house because you came to make a replica of it.it just doesn't make sense especially when you take into consideration factors that existed and the complexity of the finding in the Quran and how wide ranging it is.

the way these things appear in the Quran is very difficult for anyone to believe they are coincidence or they were planned at a time where there was no computer to decode or program or take count (on many subjects) to fit the intended message.take for instance:in the Quran Jesus (as) is likened to Adam (as).both their names appear 25 times in the Quran.there are too many instances.and keep in mind this is only one aspect of how wonderful the Quran is in terms of wonderful signs and knowledge unknown to people back then.perhaps,even today there are still things we have not come to their realization yet contained in the Holy Quran.a few hundred years ago we did not have the knowledge we have now of the Quran.also,if not for the help computers give us to decode the codes and repetitions and mathematical formulas in the Holy Quran,we could have still being in the dark on these issues.

anyways,i do not intend to drift from the topic and argue.this topic in particular was made for my Sunni brothers.they preach about the Quran and how wonderful it is and want others to marvel at it while there is an aspect (imamate) that is part of the wonders we should also marvel at but they turn a blind eye on.what do you call that in all honesty?
What if I could show you that some of these coincidences are not true?
IslamRe: Quranic Miracle: Imamate And Numerology by Cheers01: 3:05pm On Jun 24, 2012
Cheers01: Hi, this is locigboy here with another account!


I debunked Tbaba on his Quranic coincidence and now you are coming here with you number miracles in the Quran?

www.nairaland.com/attachments/726362_Logicboy_png2569399df94f3a6303e6a4b457d33ce4
IslamRe: Petition Against Maclatunji-maclatunji Report Here by Cheers01: 3:02pm On Jun 24, 2012
toba: hahahaha. lwkmdie. suicide bomber buhaaaaahaa. This tunji that i know doesnt have liver to kill a life but can threaten pple on the internet.

I will jin u in prayers so allah can touch is heart.

i will like to ask u sme questions later
That is not the only problem. Some people will not kill but some will sit idly by and watch others kill. Some will even make excuses for the killers........
IslamRe: Quranic Miracle: Imamate And Numerology by Cheers01: 3:00pm On Jun 24, 2012
Hi, this is locigboy here with another account!


I debunked Tbaba on his Quranic coincidence and now you are coming here with you number miracles in the Quran?
IslamRe: Petition Against Maclatunji-maclatunji Report Here by Cheers01: 11:34am On Jun 24, 2012
maclatunji: I have banned several people on topics that are on front page, this thread isn't. What "notoriety" would I be running away from that has not yet been achieved on several frontpage threads?

Irrespective of whatever you think Mukina2's or Olawalebab's motives are- the fact is they don't want this thread here. That I have allowed the thread to remain is telling for all of you whiners and people that have refused to moderate themselves and are effectively moderated by moi.
grin grin grin

Nope, this thread leaves you in a catch22.

You cant delete/lock this thread because it would show that you're quite intolerant
However, leaving this thread will allow people to make such claims about you more and more.


Kudos to the op. This has been by far one of the best rebellion to BIG BROTHER totalitarianism of the BIG MAC. grin grin grin grin grin

Just kidding!
IslamWhat Happens When A Muslim Is In A Gay Community? by Cheers01(op): 11:28am On Jun 24, 2012
My girlfriend's favourite fashion store has many gay employees. She knows this because, she has worked as a supplier for them once. Now, they have a hijab wearing muslim sales attendant.

As someone who likes to think deeply about religious conundrums, I wonder whether muslim communities/clerics will agree with her current employment. However, I am happy to say that she seems to be loving her job as she loves fashion. I was discussing with her as my girlfriend was selecting clothes. She clearly loves her job. However, she is very western as she loves all the current pop and house music. She wants to go to Paris and Tokyo to enjoy the fashion scene! I wish her the best.
IslamRe: Is Islam Really For Poor People? by Cheers01(op): 11:14am On Jun 24, 2012
tbaba1234: Nothing buttresses your point: The only thing highlighted is the flexibility of Islam to the conditions of all parties: the rich and the poor.

A poor person does not have to fulfill the requirements of zakat and hajj.. It is not compulsory on him. It does not affect his Islam;

For someone with the resources, it is compulsory and it does affect his Islam

You see what we have here is a religion that recognizes the plight of everyone....


Giving charity does not just entail giving financial compensation, a smile in the face of your brother is charity. Every muslim can give charity on some level, it is independent of your financial resources...

^Cheers01 , i suspect is logicboy.... shallow discussions
Nice one, Sherlock! You talk as if I havent declared that Cheers01 is logicboy's other account?


As for Islam being flexible, you are being mischevous. You said before that Islam is conservative and now it is flexible? grin


Okay, to the main point. Zakat and Hajj are pillars of islam. Pillars that become unnecessary to about millions of of muslims in Nigeria alone who live in poverty.


How is the Haram of Alcohol considerate to unemployed man given a job in an alcoholic beverage company? How? In this recession?

Like I said, it might not be for poor people.
Christianity EtcRe: Debunking The Christian Belief On The Sanctity Of Marriage by Cheers01(op): 9:52am On Jun 24, 2012
ijawkid: Lol....

Yeye boy.....

U better go eat some banana's and stop worrying about marraige and what is involved in marraige....

It shuldnt bother u......
You should worry about incest and polygamy in the bible grin
IslamRamadan 2012; Can An Anorexic Muslim Fast? by Cheers01(op): 9:50am On Jun 24, 2012
Just a honest question. I myself, am underweight because I am allergic to many foods.


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IslamRe: Is Islam Really For Poor People? by Cheers01(op): 9:44am On Jun 24, 2012
tbaba1234: ^ Ignorant post like all the others but id respond to this one.../

1. Zakat: Zakat is defined as 2.5% of disposable wealth... a poor man does not have that... the zakat is only for those that have wealth to give. poor people are the recipients of Zakat.
You are making my point. Zakat, a pillar of Islam is not for poor people. In trying to put me as ignorant, you buttress my point.

tbaba1234: 2. Halal food- Your friend has the option of sea-food so he doesn't have to travel; He knows why he is making the trip. I really do not think it is any of your business quite frankly.

Also, those who are forced by necessity in the case of extreme hunger/poverty can eat non-halal meat as long as it is not done to disobey.

....but if any of you is forced by hunger to eat forbidden food, with no intention of doing wrong, then God is most forgiving and merciful. (Surah 5:3)
You keep making my point; a poor man can not afford to be eating halal food in non-musim countries unless he want to die of mercury poisoning from eating fish everyday.

Sea food? Worse!! cooking food that doesnt last as a student is not economical. Furthermore, most people can not afford/do not like to eat fish everyday. Smelly mouth! There are people like me that are allergic to seafood. I have not eaten fish since I was a child. over 15 years.

Furthermore, why ban pork or other haraam foods in the first if they can be eaten when extremely hungry? Unnecessary law to me.

tbaba1234: 3. Looking for jobs in the alcoholic industry is not an option for a muslim... If one can get a job in that industry, he can get in other industries.
Do you know what a recession is? I think that you do not know what it is to be poor in a recession. Do you think jobs are available like that in this present market?




tbaba1234: 4. Hajj is only compulsory on those that can afford it...
Again, a pillar of Islam is not for poor people who cant afford it. Keep making my point!


tbaba1234: 5. yes,
No. A starving man can not fast. A starving man will die if he adds fasting to his starvation.



Lol....sorry Tbaba. grin
Car TalkRe: Hybrid Cars In Nigeria - Assessment, Performance & Maintainance by Cheers01: 9:23am On Jun 24, 2012
nchewi: Please Rate this brain..........



What has "FAKE" got to do with this?
Just ignore the guy cheesy
IslamIs Islam Really For Poor People? by Cheers01(op): 3:57am On Jun 24, 2012
This is a question I asked myself after I gave a beggar my bacon/cheese burger at Burger King (eff Mcdonalds grin)


1) Zakat
A broke, poor man can not give alms.

2) Halal food.
When I was a student, one of my classmates had to go to the next town to buy halal meat. He was continually broke because of this endeavour. Many towns in the UK do not have halal food stores.

Also, how can a broke man afford to be picky with meat in a non-muslim country? Beggars cant be choosers.


3) Jobs
The alcohol industry employs thousands of people in the UK. Faced between recession + a hungry family and a managerial job in a Beer company. Difficult. Can apoor man afford to be picky with employment offers?


4) Hajj
Can a poor/broke man in Nigeria travel to Mecca?


5) Sawm
Can a poor man afford to fast?
Car TalkRe: Hybrid Cars In Nigeria - Assessment, Performance & Maintainance by Cheers01: 3:32am On Jun 24, 2012
I want to buy and ship the 2010 lexus RX450h (one of the best hybrids) but there is no info on it's maintenance in Nigeria/lagos
IslamThe Negative Effects Of Polygamy by Cheers01(op):
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IslamRe: Islam Defies The Slow Loss Of Faith by Cheers01: 1:31am On Jun 24, 2012
tbaba1234: ^ I just posted a news article from a non-muslim source and you scream propaganda.... Anyone without knowledge can have doubts of their faith. Personally, this last couple of weeks i have seen and heard of over 10 conversions.... And that is just me.

Keep deluding yourself that it is just the birth-rate.
Seems, you havent tried Dawah on the streets of Europe
IslamRe: Islam Defies The Slow Loss Of Faith by Cheers01: 2:21pm On Jun 23, 2012
Stop this propaganda.

Islam is growing because of the influx of muslim immigrants and not conversions.

Also fear of punishment from apostacy is what keeps muslim apostates silent.

A 16 year old muslim reading Nairaland section will have doubts about her religion
IslamRe: Muslims Converting Empty European Churches Into Mosques by Cheers01: 2:19pm On Jun 23, 2012
Propaganda.

The main reason why islam is growing in Europe is the influx of Islamic immigrants and their birth rates.

Europe in which atheistic skepticism is growing is moving away from religion. Go to any mosque in Europe and you would see that it is mostly people of Arab,African, Asian and middle eastern heritage rather than scandinavian or germanic or slavic or saxon heritiage.
IslamRe: Lodge Your Complaints Here by Cheers01: 12:48am On Jun 22, 2012
maclatunji: ^ I am a management person and know that it is wrong for me to unban you when Seun the owner of the website is the one that banned you. Send him a message regarding this issue. If he unbans you, good for you.
Huh?

Seun only banned logicboy.

I have been using logicboy01 since on the other religion section. This is confusing.


Wow.......u guys sha just love banning me. cry cry cry
IslamRe: Lodge Your Complaints Here by Cheers01: 10:51pm On Jun 21, 2012
maclatunji: Give me the link to the profile page of the handle you want released.
https://www.nairaland.com/logicboy01


Logicboy01 is the handle I want to exclusively use
IslamRe: Lodge Your Complaints Here by Cheers01: 5:06pm On Jun 21, 2012
maclatunji: Just stick to Logicboy, we frown at Multiple IDs. I don't know how you got banned though.
Yep. Logicboy is gone. I have been using logicboy01 exclusively. And I'm still banned from only the muslim section.
IslamRe: Lodge Your Complaints Here by Cheers01: 4:34pm On Jun 21, 2012
Hi this is (logicboy01). I am using the 3rd account created when I had banishment issues with Seun/Jesoul.

That has been resolved and I have been posting with my logicboy01 account in the christian section.

Please, why would I be banned from the muslim section when I have not posted anything with the Logicboy01 account apart from the below comment praising LagosShia?


logicboy01: Lmao.... grin grin grin

funny smackdown! Seems you were prepared for some doubters!
https://www.nairaland.com/967610/swiss-english-premier-league-star,philippe
Christianity EtcRe: The Argument Against Atheism In Nigeria? by Cheers01: 7:11pm On Jun 19, 2012
2good: lol. its really funny. You better beg Seun to unban you and try to be a bit civil in presenting your arguments to people.
I dont even know how to contact the guy called Seun. Never seen him comment.

But it's irrelevant
Christianity EtcRe: The Argument Against Atheism In Nigeria? by Cheers01: 7:04pm On Jun 19, 2012
2good: But I really miss logicboy. Hope logicboy01 has not been baned again?
Both were banned.
Christianity EtcRe: Debunking The Christian Belief On The Sanctity Of Marriage by Cheers01(op): 6:56pm On Jun 19, 2012
Christianity EtcRe: One Big Misconception About Atheists by Cheers01: 6:52pm On Jun 19, 2012
Enigma: Hence, especially in the form of evangelical atheism, it is a belief system, based on faith and, taking into account other things, a religion. smiley

cool
Where is the atheist faith? faith in what?


Disbelief is not = belief.

A christian doesnt believe in Allah does that make christianity the religion of disbelief in Allah?
Christianity EtcRe: One Big Misconception About Atheists by Cheers01: 6:42pm On Jun 19, 2012
nyameke: what did you do? Back to my question though,how and what do you perceive him to be? And how would you want him to manifest to you physically..

Also do you agree that you create your own reality and everything is about beliefs including the creation of your reality ?
Easy.

-God could send angels to people and let us take pictures.
-God could let demons show their faces and let priests cast them back to hell.
-God could come on his chariot and advice some of his religious people
Christianity EtcRe: The Argument Against Atheism In Nigeria? by Cheers01: 6:38pm On Jun 19, 2012
musKeeto: PS: I'm having a hard time referring to you as CHEERS.. grin berra find beta user name.. like 'dontBanMeAgain' or something cheesy
I wanted to use a happy word because many people here on Nairaland judge you by ur username and not content.
Christianity EtcDebunking The Christian Belief On The Sanctity Of Marriage by Cheers01(op): 6:32pm On Jun 19, 2012
Christians generally define marriage as a holy institution between a man and a woman. Anything apart from that is not a marriage. They believe that marriage is holy and should not be tainted with perverse relationships eg (incest, polygamy, adultery, wife battery etc)

However, this view on marriage has certain problems which I will address in this thread;


1) Contradiction with polygamy in the bible; many of the prophets or men of God in the bible were polygamous in the bible. The most common were Abraham (3 wives), Solomon (700 wives) and David (18 wives). There are about 40 polygamists in the bible. http://www.biblicalpolygamy.com/

2) Contradiction with adultery in the bible; many men of God in the bible were adulterous in the sense of concubinage. Gideon, David and Solomon all had concubines.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concubinage#In_the_Bible

3) Contradiction with incest in the bible; Abraham's main wife (Sarah) was his half sister.


4) Jesus himself never became fruitful and multiplied. Jesus never got married or officiated a wedding.


5) Hermaphrodites; Should a hermaphrodite get married to a man or woman, it is gay sex both ways and can not be avoided. Hermphrodites are both men and women technically and so by default, they are always going to be gay no matter what sex they choose to get married to. Hermaphrodites' parents can choose at an early age what sex they want to be but it doesnt mean that may not feel trapped in the wrong sex later on.


6) Christian divorce rates; Christians (in USA) have a higher divorce rate than atheists.http://www.usatoday.com/news/religion/2011-03-14-divorce-christians_N.htm

www.nairaland.com/attachments/733534_divorce_religion_png81c89aa5abf7c69de9d4543c55a864a0

With all these contradictions and problems, what moral standing does christianity have to claim that they are for the sanctity of marriage?
Christianity EtcRe: One Big Misconception About Atheists by Cheers01: 5:37pm On Jun 19, 2012
nyameke: lol pas de probleme Mon frere..
Ok so there is no evidence as in what? Physical? And what and how do you perceive God to be.
Lol....got banned again.


Anyways,there is no physical evidence for God or god.

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