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Shelumiel:
Ah! So you are among those who say there is no God but cannot completely disprove the existence of one . Lol...

Shelumiel:
Why not read them and find out .

Shelumiel:
Brother, the Koran speaks about God , but is it from God ? No !

Shelumiel:
I am sorry to say , but
your post does not make sense.

hopefulLandlord:
If he holds on to every religion as true he would end up in hell if some specific religions happen to be true

For instance holding Yahweh - the Jewish mythical god - as true while holding Vishnu of the Indian myth too as true would still land you in hell if Yahweh is true cuz Yahweh said you shouldn't have any other god aside from him

Also Allah of the middle eastern Arabic mythology has the same orientation as Yahweh (some say they're the same)

In a nutshell, there's no surefire way of gaming Pascal's wager

Shelumiel:
My Brother , our life here will come to an end one day ;this something the Christian, Muslim and the atheist acknowledge. And what lies after that ,we do not know. So here is my advice : hold unto the words of the Bible; just take it for what it is (this is called faith ) . If in the end , it turns out that the Bible and the information in it was wrong , you have nothing to loose . But if it turns out to be true , then you would have saved yourself from something far worse than unbelief Shalom .

enilove:
The spiritual knowledge is that God can decide to forgive and manage a disobedient person and can also decide not to forgive but replace the disobedience man.

Topmaike007:
for the fact that God is merciful,when you tender a good reason before him he will change his mind, let's take the case of Hezekiah for instance, he was meant to die that day, but because of the good work he has done, and the one he is currently doing he was able to convince God not to take his life. and Isaiah the prophet was still at the palace premises when God told him to tell Hezekiah that he has added more 15 yrs to his years on earth..

sir I refuse to agree with you

enilove:
Op , you lack spiritual knowledge.

There is no decision that God takes that would amount to imperfections.

The fact that God listened to the plea of Moses does not mean it was the best decision.
God can bring out good from evil and what seems right in our own sight might not be right before God.

God destroyed the world b4 during the time of Noah . If he had destroyed the Israelites and left Moses alone , maybe the Israelites would have been better people than what they are now.

Topmaike007:
we can never be smarter than God,instead we should give God genuine reason why he has to change his mind, if he want to take action..

Hezekiah did it and he got free 15 years in advance.
Samson did it and he got his power back.

Abraham did it and he saved his nephew Lot,not that Lot merit been alive because he chose Sodom and Gomorrah for his greediness..

and lot more....

happy sunday.

michaelwestern:
Giving you free will doesn't mean that there are no consequences to your actions. With free will comes the responsibility of making the right choices. And the Holy Spirits always convicts sinners whenever the gospel is preached, so deciding to ignore the conviction of Spirit leaves you without excuse.

Take You for example, you have the opportunity of avoiding eternal torture simply by accepting Jesus Christ, no money or work involved but you choose to be arguing about free will and pharoah.

michaelwestern:
It doesn't mean that God cannot change the minds of people forcefully but He who chooses to give everybody a free will. So God doesn't relate to us as robots.

luvmijeje:
Am I speaking in French? I wasn't sure of God, so their arguments seems convincing. With what I've now know, I'll crush every single of their foolish argument.

luvmijeje:
I was telling you my past. It was when I've not yet known God.

luvmijeje:
You have answered the question. The best way to attack their truth is to be more convincing than them. And the best way to be more convincing is to point out the flaws in their own truth. Because it's not the truth, there will be flaw. The truth has no flaw.

luvmijeje:
It's their truth and not the truth. It's their opinion and not the truth.

luvmijeje:
I think that's a wrong strategy. Do you know many people became an Atheist because of what they read online. In the upcoming days, one on one Evangelism will become moot because the online Evangelism is taking over. And if you are not ready to attack their truth then you are not ready to expand and you should get ready to lose members to them.

hopefulLandlord:
Christians should be very watchful of their utterances against Pastor Tony Boateng as Yahweh works in mysterious ways and his wisdom looks like foolishness unto man.

Yahweh once told the Israelites to kill all midianites but keep young virgin girls as war booty. This sounds wrong to us but whatever Yahweh commands is wise even if it looks wrong in our limited knowledge he has his reasons

Yahweh figuratively destroyed Saul for not totally destroying the Amalekites

Yahweh once told Ezekiel to eat bread baked with human shiit

Same way Yahweh sent lying spirits to Ahab's prophets. This also sounds wrong to us but he has his reasons we aren't privy to and he answers to no one

Yahweh also hardened Pharaoh's heart while using that as opportunity to send more plagues and kill innocent people until all firstborn sons of the Egyptians are dead. This also sounds cruel but that's Yahweh showing us his loving power and nobody should question him

Yahweh struck Onan dead for refusing to cum into his brother's wife's vagyna



its possible Yahweh instructed Pastor Tony Boateng to do what he did and he might have his reasons so we should not use our limited knowledge to judge what a man talking to a being of unlimited knowledge does. Beware not to bring a curse upon your lives and future generations by attacking a true men of Yahweh

Butterflyleo:
How would people "research for God and reason out God"?

How did you research and reason him out?

Primesky:
Hahaha... and how do you know that God hasn't spoken to me before?. God's standards never change. His yes in the time of Adam is yes now, so He basically repeats those things He has once told men of old. He never contradicts himself, however, if I don't understand a thing, I ask Him and He answers me.

Why do you think it's difficult for God to speak to man?, look, I am a child of God, and my Father speaks to me always. I am not a bastard, as a matter of fact, God always longs to fellowship with His children, that's why He made us, to have a dynamic relationship with Him. To get to that point, you must accept what He says, correct the errors He has pointed out, which is that you repent and accept His Holy son Jesus Christ and live in a godly way of love and faith.

Jeremiah 33:3 Call unto me, and I will answer thee, and shew thee great and mighty things, which thou knowest not.

You can't call on the one you don't love, trust or believe, because there's no relationship between you both. Does that then mean it doesn't exist with others?.

John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

Now that you don't believe in Jesus neither do you love Him yet, how can He abide with you to relate and fellowship with you?.

There are alot I can show you. If you don't know, you don't know. You have no idea what you're missing I tell you.

Is it the sweet time of personal fellowship I enjoy with Him or the moments of prayer that appears as if it should never end?. What pleasure in this world can compare?. But like I said, if you don't know, you don't know. But you see, in my Father's kingdom of love and light, we're not stingy, so we share this love and excitement for all who care to come. It's free and open to all to enjoy

Jesus Christ is the sweetest thing that can happen to any soul. Ah! If only you know

winner01:
Why are you on a religious section arguing with religious people?

M0ron:
You can’t see it?

What makes you imagine that the theist is unthinking,and in need of thinking classes?

M0ron:
Calling Theists stupid means you are smarter

bloodofthelamb:
You are the lord of your own mind. God cannot manipulate you. Bro, you are the ignorant one here.

Primesky:
It's OK, at least you have heard and read the message. You have right of choice to either reject or accept. I will not argue or quarrel with you about that.

For the avoidance of doubt, the truth and the fact here is that Jesus the Son of God came to the world, paid the price and penalty of our sins. Whosoever believes in Him by repenting of his/her sins and accepting Him, will be saved!.

This is the verdict of the Lord:

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

This is the whole matter in summary. Whatever you choose to do, say, think and believe, is totally your choice, but the truth cannot be altered. May the light of God shine on you. Shalom.

Primesky:
Were you in Nigeria when the Federal government granted amnesty to some militants?. What would have happened if they had refused to accept the offer?.

Was it the government that literally forced them into militancy?. Was their action a contravention of the laws of the nation?. Was there any consequences for contravening those laws?. Will it be good for the government to allow them continue their destructive action forever without striking them down?.

So if the government gives a period of grace and says, repent, and you will be pardoned or else, you will be taken down, and the militants refuse, will you call the government evil and wicked?.

My dear, repent and accept God's amnesty through Christ Jesus now, so that you can be saved. Do so before it's too late. I know you may want to argue and say, for what crime?. Well, so some militants asked as well and paid for it.

Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

Jesus Christ saves!.

M0ron:
This is a huge assumption of atheists,especially new atheists. They imagine they have discovered the art and science of thinking. Atheism is simply a different worldview,not any smarter than theism