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Christianity EtcRe: Seun, Finally I Want To Give You An Undeniable Proof of God's Existence. by chemystery:
jamescross:
chemystery
p.s:
mark 16:15 go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel.

in matt 10 Jesus sent 12 disciples specifically to the cities of israel, matt 11:1 when Jesus finished commanding the disciples.

are you really that bad in reading huh

if darkchild failed to read the continuation of matt 16:28 in 17:1-13.
how am i supposed to help both of you undecided is it poor understanding or you just don't care.

even if reality is staring at you in the face you will not still realise it.
OK, you said nothing about Jesus promising to come before his disciples must have finished their work in the towns of Israel. Which implies that his coming will happen within their generation and when they're still alive. I assume you agree with me that he has totally failed in fulfilling that promise.

Meanwhile, here is another verse where Jesus asked his disciples to preach only to Israelites:

These twelve men were sent out by Jesus with the following instructions: “Do not go to any Gentile territory or any Samaritan towns. Instead, you are to go to the lost sheep of the people of Israel. Go and preach, ‘The Kingdom of heaven is near!’
Matthew 10:5‭-‬7 GNT

If he asked them to go to the world, and he had already promised his second coming before they even finish in the town of Israel, then which other time do they have to go into the world after his second coming?

You can't reconcile these discrepancies without coming into agreement that Jesus contradicted himself or that some parts of the bible should just be ignored
Christianity EtcRe: Seun, Finally I Want To Give You An Undeniable Proof of God's Existence. by chemystery: 6:25pm On Feb 12, 2018
jamescross:
so you're telling me that Jesus after saying he was going to die then rise, he died then rose, called his disciples together just to tell them a lie?


if that is so, then tell me why? would he do that?
Jesus failed to come in the generation he promised to come just like the bible verse darkchild64 gave you. Here is yet another bible verse:

When they persecute you in one town, run away to another one. I assure you that you will not finish your work in all the towns of Israel before the Son of Man comes.
Matthew 10:23 GNT

So, brace up and face reality. I know it is hard to imagine a universe existing without you but it has always been so before you were born, and so it shall be after you are gone. Stop waiting for a dead Jew who has failed to come when he promised to come.

P.S:
Another thing worth noting in that verse is that Jesus didn't even expect his disciples to take his message beyond the towns of Israel before he comes again. I don't know how some clowns now made it to reach us here.
Christianity EtcRe: "Christianity Is A Scam" - Man Says As He Burns A Bible by chemystery: 3:43pm On Feb 12, 2018
hopeforcharles:
If na Islam this guy tried this nonsense he is a goner, a dead meat, please people should learn to respect people's religion and if you wants to quit you leave with out dishonoring the religion
What do you mean by respect other people's religion? When did you as a christian respect a Satanist? Is it not you people that bind and cast Satan up and down? Have you for once spoken about shrines being destroyed and burned down by Christians? Why do you criticize boko haram? Are they not killing for religious sake?
Why the double standard?
If you can't respect other people's religion, don't expect yours to be respected!
No religion deserves respect!
Christianity EtcRe: Seun, Finally I Want To Give You An Undeniable Proof of God's Existence. by chemystery: 11:39pm On Feb 11, 2018
Tolktob:
They're aren't a true Christian in the first instance,they might be a professor and not a possessor.If they're truly a possessor there's nothing that can separate them from the love of God.
What if I told you those atheist you claimed you saw ain't true atheist? They are just Christians who disguised as atheist cos if they are truly atheists, nothing can make them confess any mythical Christ or God
Christianity EtcRe: Seun, Finally I Want To Give You An Undeniable Proof of God's Existence. by chemystery: 10:35pm On Feb 11, 2018
Tolktob:
A personal experience will do;I've seen lots of atheist confessing Jesus Christ at the tail end of their lives.
I have also seen lots of Christians confessing Lucifer at the tail end of their lives
Christianity EtcRe: Life Is Hard. Where is God? Theists And Atheist Help, Anything. I Am Desperate! by chemystery: 4:47pm On Feb 10, 2018
Something tells me this thread will make front-page
Christianity EtcRe: How I Was Informed Of Oyedepo’s Wife Death, Adeboye Reveals by chemystery: 10:36am On Feb 10, 2018
spartan117:
There will come a time in your life when all your logic and rationalizations will fail you. All that will be left for you to do is believe in God for a miracle. Until then.
Invariably only the evil things that makes people turn to god and not the good things.
What i understand by this is that those who invented god (the good guy) also saw the need to invent Satan (the bad guy) so that god will seem relevant
Christianity EtcRe: God And Forgiveness. by chemystery: 7:13am On Feb 07, 2018
Mariangeles:
So...why don't you mention all your kinds so y'all can gather as usual and gossip about GOD...

Christianity EtcRe: Why So Many Atheists On Nairaland Forum? by chemystery: 8:45pm On Feb 05, 2018
Blakjewelry:
If there is anything this one reason I don't contribute to any atheist and religious people because of such use of words, at least we should all learn to respect other people's religion, truth is very important because it helps to keep some people in check
No religion is worthy of respect.
Should we respect religion where people kill in the name of god?
Or that which teaches people that blood transfusion is a sin?
I personally lost a friend who refused blood transfusion because of her faith.
Even Christians don't respect other people's religion. For instance, there are people who worship Satan and you know what Christians do with Satan on every fasting and praying session. grin
Christianity EtcRe: Why So Many Atheists On Nairaland Forum? by chemystery: 8:39pm On Feb 05, 2018
Because religion is an illusion made up by men in their confusion.
If no one had told us about god, we wouldn't know about him.
If god wanted us to know about him, he would do that himself and not rely on fallible men.
Have you asked yourself why it took thousands of years for Africa to know about the abrahamic god? Yes, because religion is man made and therefore requires the effort of man to propagate it.
Christianity EtcRe: "God Is Mad For Killing Himself Instead Of Satan" - Man Blast God And Jesus. by chemystery: 7:02pm On Jan 30, 2018
enilove:
It is not strange , the Bible makes us to know that the time is coming when Satan and his agent would blasphem God.

The Op is doing what Satan told him to do .

Revelation 13:6 KJV
And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.

You agents of darkness continue , your end is near.
Do you know there is a law protecting an all powerful supernatural deity from getting its feelings hurt? It is called blasphemy!
Everyone is blasphemous. Don't you belittle other gods and even Satan, demons, mermaid that other people worship? If you are guilty of this, then you have no right to say anyone is blasphemous.
Christianity EtcRe: "God Is Mad For Killing Himself Instead Of Satan" - Man Blast God And Jesus. by chemystery: 6:57pm On Jan 30, 2018
alBHAGDADI:
Who told you satan wanted or asked for forgiveness? He wanted God's throne, nothing more nothing less.
Your last sentence proves you didn't read my earlier post before rushing to side with your master the devil.
And who told you Satan wouldn't want to ask god for forgiveness? How do you know he wanted god's throne, and nothing more or nothing less? You have just been talking out of wishful thought and I decide to play along with the wishful thought and you are questioning me. Why?

If God had destroyed satan like He did to the Amalekites, people like you will still be grumbling just as you always question God's destruction of the Amalekites.
Is that suppose to be an excuse for god's incompetence or what? I thought Satan is the curse of evil? Without Satan, will there be any reason for god to destroy Amalekites?

God didn't allow satan to cause havoc to his creation, humans did. He warned humans not to have anything to do with him, but they refused. If they had rejected him, all these pains won't be experienced.
OK, humans tempted themselves? Humans invented death, diseases, suffering, wars, etc? I thought you guys said Satan has influence in all these? Meanwhile, god didn't warn humans about satan, rather he warned them against eating a fruit from a forbidden tree. In fact, humans know nothing about satan then. But why blame Satan alone? Whereas god also played his role as accomplice. Because if god didn't place the fruit there, Satan won't see anything to tempt man with. And if there was no Satan, god wouldn't have placed the fruit there in the first place since there would be no possibility of man disobeying god on his own accord.
Christianity EtcRe: "God Is Mad For Killing Himself Instead Of Satan" - Man Blast God And Jesus. by chemystery: 4:18pm On Jan 30, 2018
alBHAGDADI:
When Satan rebelled, he successfully deceived more than a billion angels in heaven and pulled them to his side. He told them of how God's rule is not good and that he will give them the liberty they need. Some other angels that didn't follow him were still tempted to do so just cos of how juicy his sugarcoated offer was.

Now, God had everything He needed to wipe Satan and those angels off the universe but He didn't, not cos He is weak but for some reasons. If he had done that, then the good angels that remained loyal to him would have felt Satan had a point when he said God's rule is cruel. They would have thought God was insecure that He had to quickly destroy Satan so that he won't achieve the aim of making the universe see how good his own reign will be.
What if I told you these angels still feel Satan had a point when he said god is cruel? God could have just forgiven Satan and we won't be discussing this sh!t. Destroying Satan and cursing humanity, which one do you think the angels will find more cruel on god's part?

God allowed Satan the much space he needed to prove he can rule better than Him. Since Satan has been ruling, what has the world benefited? Death, sickness, rape, weapons of mass destruction, wickedness, evil, anger, unhappiness etc. Even the angels that sided with him became horrible, sad and filled with anger; they lost their beauty.
Why does god derive pleasure in competing with Satan? What are they trying to prove?
Why would god allow Satan manage and experiment with a world god himself created?
Can't god claim ownership of what belongs to him? Doesn't it prove incompetence and weakness on god's side? Like seriously, why will Satan rule a world god created? If god must prove something, why not allow Satan create his own world and do his own experiments with it?

Now, both the good and evil angels including humans can see that Satan's rule can never profit anybody. At this point, if God decides to destroy him, no one will complain.

Satan knows his time is up, that's why he is employing all tactics to destroy mankind and make them oppose God in the coming war. Why do you think we now experience terrorism at an alarming rate? What about huge rate of divorce, sex dolls, immorality (BBNaija), prostitution, club/yahoo boys, false pastors, fulani herdsmen etc? He is deploying his very best to destroy the children of God and make them oppose God.

His time is up and he knows it.
And the only way god could prove Satan is bad is to allow him cause havoc to god's creations for thousands of years. It is like allowing a criminal to commit a crime again just to prove to those who witnessed the first crime that the criminal have committed such crime before, and is worthy of being punish. And over thousands of years of allowing this criminal commit this crime, you still aren't satisfied with proving your point. That's crazy!
Christianity EtcRe: You Need More Faith To Be An Atheist Than You Need To Be A Christian by chemystery: 1:25pm On Jan 30, 2018
Childofaking:
If you believe there are 5000 gods , then you are not an atheist. At least you believe there is God.

There may be thousands of demons, but there is only one God, the creator of heaven and earth, the king of kings and the Lord of lords.

Christianity EtcRe: You Need More Faith To Be An Atheist Than You Need To Be A Christian by chemystery: 10:03am On Jan 30, 2018
Childofaking:
My friend don't be excited. It is no longer possible for me to doubt the existence of God.

I have experience God and encountered God.

When you encounter God, no force in the universe can convince you that there is no God.
Can you tell me more about your encounter?
In your story, tell me which one of the 5000 gods you encountered and prove that it was really this god you encountered
Christianity EtcRe: You Need More Faith To Be An Atheist Than You Need To Be A Christian by chemystery: 9:16am On Jan 30, 2018
Hahahaha! Theist don't see anything good about atheist. Saying it takes more faith to be an atheist implies that they have realized how shallow and illogical the idea of faith is. OP, that's just a good start. Keep it up! grin
Christianity EtcRe: Can You Prove God Exists Without Quoting The Bible? by chemystery: 7:59pm On Jan 25, 2018
preshdiva:
Logic says, there is no God because I cannot see him, but Logic does not see the air he breathes in and out, but doesn't doubt he breathes, logic says, man evolved and was never created but fails to tell us why the evolutionary trend paused for numerous centuries, Logic says, the universe made man but fails to tell us who made the universe... Isn't that sheer foolery?
Logic said there is no god because there is no proof of its existence except questions asked from ignorance like who made this and that and how did this and that come into existence. Logic says there is air because logic have felt and seen effect of air in motion, logic have compressed air and used it to do visible and useful work through pneumatic devices. Logic have also seen air after liquefaction. What else do you want logic to do to prove air does exists?
And who told you evolutionary trend paused? The internet is your friend to get more info about evolution. You are a christian and I wonder why you even aren't bothered about who Cain married yet you want to air opinion on subject you have no knowledge about.
And how do you describe religion that told us god made man but failed to tell us who made god?

I don't need to quote the Bible, return to your history books. History texts record the life and times of Jesus, the disciples and the Church. History texts record the wars Israel fought and how God helped them conquer there enemies, the ten plagues of Egypt etc.
What history text is that? You are a big liar!!! Except you mean the devotionals written by your daddy G.Os

How did the clouds form? Who made the sun, the moon? Did they just become? If they did, why hasn't this miraculous formation happened again?
Here comes the ignorant questions. Hooohooo! I don't know, therefore It's god! grin

You might not want to believe the Bible, because you were not there, but you would wholly believe Einstein, Darwin e.t.c... Men whose theories have been disputed over the ages, and new ones overridden them.
Einsteins theories remains the root of many scientific inventions like the CCD chips used in digital cameras today. So give me list of theories that were overridden and inventions that was thrown away because it's theories were overridden. Well, science is meant for the non-scientist to believe but for the scientists to know.
So on what basis should we believe the bible? Because the bible said that the bible should be believed?

How do you explain that a person has a dream and it comes to pass exactly that way? Science? Magichuh The truth you must see is that there is definitely a force behind this all, someone is holding the sky from falling to the ground, someone is holding the sun from falling off the sky...
Here she goes again. I can't explain it, therefore it must god!

Quick one, we have sex dolls now but no scientist has been able to create a human, brain, flesh, blood, nobody... Why is that? No scientist can even create a mosquito... Because they don't know the prototype, they can never know because they were created too... If we evolved, why don't we keep evolving to maybe, humans with wings coz I sure need to fly.
No god can make an amputee grow limbs but science have been providing prosthetic legs to amputees so they could walk again. Science have been able to invent other artificial body parts such as heart, tooth, breast, etc. and no god can boast of such feat. Why can't a god who created make repairs or replacement of totally damaged or deformed parts? Why do people believe in efficacy of science in curing sickness and deseases than prayers?

Instead of asking why humans are not still evolving, you should ask yourself this instead - if god created everything, why doesn't he keep recreating animals that have gone extinct?


I have not quoted the Bible at any time and my underlying argument is, There is God, call him whatever name you like but there is a force behind all these.

I believe in God not just because I was taught to but because he is real... He Lives... God is not dead.
You believe in god not because he is real, but because you were taught to believe, and then you realise you also need him to explain your ignorance and satisfaction in not understanding the mysteries surrounding the world.
Christianity EtcRe: Sex Dolls:Are we committing sin by having sex with sex dolls ? by chemystery: 1:15am On Jan 20, 2018
Since new sins are coming out like having sex with a sex doll, god should kuku look for one herdsmen in Israel to inspire to write one more book that will enlist all new sins which didn't make it to the current bible. If herdsmen scarce for Israel, we get dem plenty for naija grin
Christianity EtcRe: I Need Deliverance From Powers From Fathers' House- Help Me Please by chemystery: 12:49am On Jan 20, 2018
How do you know what is doing you is spiritual attack and not something else?

Like do you see ghosts with cutlass or machetes or what?
I need to know cos it might be happening to me or someone I know and we wouldn't know since we don't know what spiritual attack looks like.

What's really happening to you?
Christianity EtcRe: Should Women Speak In Church by chemystery: 11:49pm On Jan 19, 2018
karllemah44:
but sir wasn't his words inspired by God
First, how will you differentiate words inspired by god from that inspired by man's own desires?
Christianity EtcRe: Ugandan Bride Attacked By "Ghosts" On Her Wedding Day, Undresses Herself by chemystery: 3:35pm On Jan 19, 2018
WarriFirstBorn:
This looks more like a scene from a movie to me. I might be wrong though. There are many pointer to this fact. Look at the pictures very well na.

1. Look at the video camera men payed by the same people to come and cover their event recording the happening.
2.In another of the pictures, you see the women or maybe her friends just sitting down close to her, not doing anything. That shows they are just acting the script.
3.Observe the number of video camera men involved. From the pic alone, I could count close to 4.Na who wan do marriage dey carry that much camera men? Na crusade ni?
4.In one of the pictures, you could see one of the video camera men recording the audience, this time, he is no longer recording the bride.
5.In one of the pics also, observe that lady standing on a table or platform, observing events, comfortably. Naturally, she shouldn't be that relaxed. Probably she is a member of the crew.


Like I said, I may be wrong!
This is why you may be wrong.
How much evidence will you gather before you know you are not wrong?
Is it until you become the bride herself?
Christianity EtcRe: Hating Christians Is Fulfilment Of The Scripture by chemystery: 8:53am On Jan 14, 2018
HCpaul:
Whether you like it or not, Christianity is dying.
Nothing will kill Christianity faster than information which the internet has brought to our finger tip. That is why the say in this great era of information, ignorance is a choice!
Christianity EtcRe: Hating Christians Is Fulfilment Of The Scripture by chemystery: 8:47am On Jan 14, 2018
Omooba77:
In recent days; there have been various attacks on the Christendom and I have been wondering and I was reminded of this.
Matthew: 10. 22. And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.
What about when Europeans hated the gods of our fathers, burnt their worship places and killed their spirit? What did you say then? That the gods of our forefathers are powerless.

The truth is all gods are powerless. Look at how China demolished God's house and no shit happened just like nothing happened when Europeans destroyed our shrines. The truth is that we humans have been killing ourselves all these while to prove who has the best imaginary friend. No existing loving god will remain hidden and watch humanity kill themselves because of who has the most true and loving god. It's just crazy!
Christianity EtcRe: "The Biblical Noah Loaded MTN Recharge Card On His Nokia 3310"-religious Man by chemystery: 1:18pm On Jan 13, 2018
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Christianity EtcRe: I'm An Atheist That Thinks That Premarital Sex Is Wrong. Is This Unusual? by chemystery: 9:22am On Jan 12, 2018
urahara:
No good reason

I just kind of cant imagine such a thing being done to my sisters. I start feeling guilty
If your sisters are adults, I wonder how their private life will be of utmost concern to you. Take your mind off frivolities and enjoy your life peacefully.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Voodoo Doesn't Exist, My Little Experience by chemystery: 6:43pm On Jan 11, 2018
sonofluc1fer:
Thank you for the lecture, Grand Commander of the Internet..I see I have no invite. I shall leave you to your fun.

Christianity EtcRe: Are You A Christian ? You Need To See This. by chemystery: 3:30pm On Jan 10, 2018
Jesus never died. He only gave up his weekend

Christianity EtcRe: I May Now Believe In The Supernatural by chemystery: 12:58pm On Jan 08, 2018
shadeyinka:
Yes madam:
Atheism is a conclusion that there is no deity and no spirit
Atheism is a conclusion that deities exist and spirits exist.

I also do not think I insinuated that atheism is an answer to worlds problems.

I agree with you, in science their are some solutions we know cannot be an answer. Unfortunately depending on the vastness of your data and knowledge. For instance we do have square root of (-1) which classically does not make sense.

In other words, if a person does not accept as valid answer the square root of (-1), it doesn't make him right. It just simply means that he is myopic in his world space.


I didn't mean that atheism had theories. I used the word because you used it first. Pls check.
Scientific fact is different from scientific theory. But of cause there are so many theories that are treated as if they are facts especially within the atheist communities. The scientific basis for atheism for instance are more from the theories rather than facts.

Faith amongst Atheists is using Scientific Theories as Laws and proceeding to use them as the foundation for justifications for their stance.

For me:
Atheists analogy :
People who do not believe anything that is not material in machines .
Theists analogy :
People who believe in the interaction of material and non material software code in machines
Reference to scientific theories by atheist is just to let the theist know there are other tangible, testable and verifiable possibilities (not yet facts) of human existence unlike theistic belief of an invisible god who lives in an invisible abode and wants humans to come there after they die. Everything is just intangible, untestable and unverifiable, and one have to just accept them by faith. That's crazy!

Well, I have spent good time to enlighten you about atheism, even using analogies. But you can still suit yourself with your assumptions if that makes you happy and satisfies your wishful thinking. But if you sincerely want to know, then feel free to ask me questions.
Have a nice day.
Christianity EtcRe: I May Now Believe In The Supernatural by chemystery:
shadeyinka:
You have a right to your own opinion about life and existence but it also looks like you are not prone to analyzing deep funder mental issues. It is like you are content with taking a position (your position) to me much like gambling.

Yes I know you will accuse me of judging you but don't forget that you have also judged me in your thesis above. (You have used words like unreasonable, gullible, ridiculous and illogical).

I wanted you to project to the Origin of everything and If you had rightly harnesses all the available knowledge and information, you will arrive at a spontaneous origin of the universe and hence life. I did a little Physics at the University, so it makes me look at such issues from the fundermentals.

Atheism is more of a CHOICE than a conclusion based on exhursive scientific and logical exercise.
Nobody told you atheism is a conclusion. Nobody told you atheism have the answers to all world problems. I'm glad you did a bit of physics. In science, there are several instance in science when we don't expect a negative value no matter what (like when calculating for TIME). An atheist is that your friend who refuse to accept your answer because it's value is negative. Not because he knows the answer, but because he knows the laws governing such scientific problems. Therefore, your friend dismissing your answer is a conclusion that you don't have the solution, but not a conclusion that your friend himself have the solution. So will you now say your friend's conclusion is base on faith? No it is base on fact governing some scientific and natural laws.


Faith isn't from speculation.
If a man can have Faith in his abilities, would that be due to speculation? Certainly not. In the Army, one can have faith in a Commander (usually based on trust, knowledge and pedigree not by speculation).

Since you want to be treated in isolation from what the average atheist believe, what is your own foolproof logical or scientific proof for the non existence of an intelligent designer for the universe?

I am glad you distinguished between scientific theories and atheistic theories and the fact that you agree that scientific theories and knowledge are not absolute. The implication of this is that every conclusion on Atheism or Atheism is based on a final leap of faith: a choice rather than an exurstive examination.

If the answer of a research is not FINAL and DEFINITE it means that the probability of being wrong is FINITE and as such, a rational man will take a POSITION by Faith.

Are we scientifically 100% sure of the evolutional history of man? No!
Do we have reasonable evidence to believe in human evolution? Yes or No (depending on the person)

You are a product of Faith my dear (Faith in Physical evidences)
I never mentioned to you that there are atheistic theories or distinguished it from scientific theories, neither did i mention to you that scientific theories and knowledge are not absolute. You are only manufacturing things i didn't say and arguing against them. Atheism have no theories. Our conclusion is that we don't believe in the theistic delusional worldview that is base on faith and not facts. If you are confused with this, then read my analogy on negative value answer again.

Also, you have to distinguish scientific facts/knowledge from scientific theories. Scientific theories are possibilities, and it is illogical to accept them as facts because you can't prove whether they are true or not.

Please always speak for yourself dear, I don't subscribe to a delusional worldview, so refrain from all attempt to drag atheism to your position.

It's funny how you guys try so hard to make atheism look like a RELIGION that have a CREED believed by FAITH.

If RELIGION and FAITH is that fashionable, and atheism is unpleasant, then why trying hard to crop atheism into it?
Christianity EtcRe: I May Now Believe In The Supernatural by chemystery: 10:42pm On Jan 07, 2018
shadeyinka:
It wasn't supposed to be a proof but a signpost that we don't have all the answers
It is actually a signpost revealing that some people are still gullible



I am also aware that most Christians have gone to churches devoid of the supernatural hence its understandable why doctrine alone doesn't do much.

Its part of the signs of this time: "...having a form of religion but denying the power thereof"

You make it sound that anyone who isn't an atheist is illogical, unreasonable and ridiculous. I beg to disagree.
Holding religious believes is ridiculous, unreasonable and illogical. I've been on both sides so I can judge better

The difference is simply that atheists see the world ONLY from the material and logical point of view whereas I see the world from both Material, Logical and Spiritual point of view.
Fallacy of composition. All atheists are guided by the own personal reasoning. So next time try to mention the name of that atheist that made you believe so. Meanwhile, I'm not against you speaking or yourself but don't categorize me with few atheists you have made encounter with.

Yes you are a product of Faith in your knowledge as sufficient enough.
Faith results from speculation; knowledge results from fact. They are like two parallel lines that can never meet.

The Expanding Universe is a proof of the Universe having a beginning. If it has a beginning, what led to its sudden appearance?
I don't know. Tell me.

The best atheist explanation is that the universe had always existed in other form.
You read this from an atheist creed that said all atheist agree to this? Or you have got several explanations from different atheist and this happened to be the best from your judgement? If it is the former, please tell me where you got a copy of that book. If it is the latter, then cool. Different people with their different worldviews. It's allowed.

Hence my statement:



Atheists best explanation is a spontaneous existence of the universe where evolution produced life. It take a keep of faith to believe that
Are you talking of big bang and evolution? These are scientific theories, not atheist theories. They are mere theories that still has the possibility of coming out as being true or false. It is open to any of the two options, hence it can not be termed as faith since there is not yet an absolute acceptance or rejection which will only come after the complete facts and evidence are presented. Then, it will be a accepted base on knowledge and not by belief, and base on fact and not by faith.
Christianity EtcRe: I May Now Believe In The Supernatural by chemystery: 6:01pm On Jan 07, 2018
shadeyinka:
You should actually sincerely and with a skeptical mind look at the minority reports of the existence of the supernatural.
In essence, your video of unverifiable ridiculous claim proves the existence of supernatural?

Most atheists feed themselves with only information's that support their theory AND gloss over those that can cast a doubt on their faith.
Most atheist were once Christians. What amount of christian doctrine do they still need to feed themselves with? The best ways to put it is that atheist are lead by reasoning and logic, while dismissing every other ridiculous and absurd claims, including yours perhaps.

But at the end: we are both products of faith
1. I believe in the Spontaneous Existence of God
2. You believe in the Spontaneous Existence of Materials


Both by simple logics are IMPOSSIBLE!
You alone is a product of faith. I am a product of knowledge. Speak for yourself.
And I have not seen any atheist mention that matter came into existence by chance. The theist themselves invented such claim so that they could have straws to clutch at.
Christianity EtcRe: I May Now Believe In The Supernatural by chemystery: 5:28pm On Jan 07, 2018
shadeyinka:
I guess you really didn't watch the video with a skeptics mind.

The poverty I insinuated was just a pun...to preclude you saying they were paid actors.

A basic examination of their testimonies will show that
1. They reported their experiences
2. The testimonies seem to match their level of education
3. Two guns refused to fire seems too big a coincidence
4. They were Moslems so their testimonies wasn't to promote Christianity

I actually thought that you will fault a slip in their almost perfect acting.

Sometimes I wish I could invite Derren Brown to this church, instead he will be going around to "christian schemers". Look deep before you jump
So what point are you trying to prove?

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