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jamescross:OK, you said nothing about Jesus promising to come before his disciples must have finished their work in the towns of Israel. Which implies that his coming will happen within their generation and when they're still alive. I assume you agree with me that he has totally failed in fulfilling that promise. Meanwhile, here is another verse where Jesus asked his disciples to preach only to Israelites: These twelve men were sent out by Jesus with the following instructions: “Do not go to any Gentile territory or any Samaritan towns. Instead, you are to go to the lost sheep of the people of Israel. Go and preach, ‘The Kingdom of heaven is near!’ Matthew 10:5-7 GNT If he asked them to go to the world, and he had already promised his second coming before they even finish in the town of Israel, then which other time do they have to go into the world after his second coming? You can't reconcile these discrepancies without coming into agreement that Jesus contradicted himself or that some parts of the bible should just be ignored |
jamescross:Jesus failed to come in the generation he promised to come just like the bible verse darkchild64 gave you. Here is yet another bible verse: When they persecute you in one town, run away to another one. I assure you that you will not finish your work in all the towns of Israel before the Son of Man comes. Matthew 10:23 GNT So, brace up and face reality. I know it is hard to imagine a universe existing without you but it has always been so before you were born, and so it shall be after you are gone. Stop waiting for a dead Jew who has failed to come when he promised to come. P.S: Another thing worth noting in that verse is that Jesus didn't even expect his disciples to take his message beyond the towns of Israel before he comes again. I don't know how some clowns now made it to reach us here. |
hopeforcharles:What do you mean by respect other people's religion? When did you as a christian respect a Satanist? Is it not you people that bind and cast Satan up and down? Have you for once spoken about shrines being destroyed and burned down by Christians? Why do you criticize boko haram? Are they not killing for religious sake? Why the double standard? If you can't respect other people's religion, don't expect yours to be respected! No religion deserves respect! |
Tolktob:What if I told you those atheist you claimed you saw ain't true atheist? They are just Christians who disguised as atheist cos if they are truly atheists, nothing can make them confess any mythical Christ or God |
Tolktob:I have also seen lots of Christians confessing Lucifer at the tail end of their lives |
Something tells me this thread will make front-page |
spartan117:Invariably only the evil things that makes people turn to god and not the good things. What i understand by this is that those who invented god (the good guy) also saw the need to invent Satan (the bad guy) so that god will seem relevant |
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Blakjewelry:No religion is worthy of respect. Should we respect religion where people kill in the name of god? Or that which teaches people that blood transfusion is a sin? I personally lost a friend who refused blood transfusion because of her faith. Even Christians don't respect other people's religion. For instance, there are people who worship Satan and you know what Christians do with Satan on every fasting and praying session. ![]() |
Because religion is an illusion made up by men in their confusion. If no one had told us about god, we wouldn't know about him. If god wanted us to know about him, he would do that himself and not rely on fallible men. Have you asked yourself why it took thousands of years for Africa to know about the abrahamic god? Yes, because religion is man made and therefore requires the effort of man to propagate it. |
enilove:Do you know there is a law protecting an all powerful supernatural deity from getting its feelings hurt? It is called blasphemy! Everyone is blasphemous. Don't you belittle other gods and even Satan, demons, mermaid that other people worship? If you are guilty of this, then you have no right to say anyone is blasphemous. |
alBHAGDADI:And who told you Satan wouldn't want to ask god for forgiveness? How do you know he wanted god's throne, and nothing more or nothing less? You have just been talking out of wishful thought and I decide to play along with the wishful thought and you are questioning me. Why? If God had destroyed satan like He did to the Amalekites, people like you will still be grumbling just as you always question God's destruction of the Amalekites.Is that suppose to be an excuse for god's incompetence or what? I thought Satan is the curse of evil? Without Satan, will there be any reason for god to destroy Amalekites? God didn't allow satan to cause havoc to his creation, humans did. He warned humans not to have anything to do with him, but they refused. If they had rejected him, all these pains won't be experienced.OK, humans tempted themselves? Humans invented death, diseases, suffering, wars, etc? I thought you guys said Satan has influence in all these? Meanwhile, god didn't warn humans about satan, rather he warned them against eating a fruit from a forbidden tree. In fact, humans know nothing about satan then. But why blame Satan alone? Whereas god also played his role as accomplice. Because if god didn't place the fruit there, Satan won't see anything to tempt man with. And if there was no Satan, god wouldn't have placed the fruit there in the first place since there would be no possibility of man disobeying god on his own accord. |
alBHAGDADI:What if I told you these angels still feel Satan had a point when he said god is cruel? God could have just forgiven Satan and we won't be discussing this sh!t. Destroying Satan and cursing humanity, which one do you think the angels will find more cruel on god's part? God allowed Satan the much space he needed to prove he can rule better than Him. Since Satan has been ruling, what has the world benefited? Death, sickness, rape, weapons of mass destruction, wickedness, evil, anger, unhappiness etc. Even the angels that sided with him became horrible, sad and filled with anger; they lost their beauty.Why does god derive pleasure in competing with Satan? What are they trying to prove? Why would god allow Satan manage and experiment with a world god himself created? Can't god claim ownership of what belongs to him? Doesn't it prove incompetence and weakness on god's side? Like seriously, why will Satan rule a world god created? If god must prove something, why not allow Satan create his own world and do his own experiments with it? Now, both the good and evil angels including humans can see that Satan's rule can never profit anybody. At this point, if God decides to destroy him, no one will complain.And the only way god could prove Satan is bad is to allow him cause havoc to god's creations for thousands of years. It is like allowing a criminal to commit a crime again just to prove to those who witnessed the first crime that the criminal have committed such crime before, and is worthy of being punish. And over thousands of years of allowing this criminal commit this crime, you still aren't satisfied with proving your point. That's crazy! |
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Childofaking:Can you tell me more about your encounter? In your story, tell me which one of the 5000 gods you encountered and prove that it was really this god you encountered |
Hahahaha! Theist don't see anything good about atheist. Saying it takes more faith to be an atheist implies that they have realized how shallow and illogical the idea of faith is. OP, that's just a good start. Keep it up! ![]() |
preshdiva:Logic said there is no god because there is no proof of its existence except questions asked from ignorance like who made this and that and how did this and that come into existence. Logic says there is air because logic have felt and seen effect of air in motion, logic have compressed air and used it to do visible and useful work through pneumatic devices. Logic have also seen air after liquefaction. What else do you want logic to do to prove air does exists? And who told you evolutionary trend paused? The internet is your friend to get more info about evolution. You are a christian and I wonder why you even aren't bothered about who Cain married yet you want to air opinion on subject you have no knowledge about. And how do you describe religion that told us god made man but failed to tell us who made god? I don't need to quote the Bible, return to your history books. History texts record the life and times of Jesus, the disciples and the Church. History texts record the wars Israel fought and how God helped them conquer there enemies, the ten plagues of Egypt etc.What history text is that? You are a big liar!!! Except you mean the devotionals written by your daddy G.Os How did the clouds form? Who made the sun, the moon? Did they just become? If they did, why hasn't this miraculous formation happened again?Here comes the ignorant questions. Hooohooo! I don't know, therefore It's god! You might not want to believe the Bible, because you were not there, but you would wholly believe Einstein, Darwin e.t.c... Men whose theories have been disputed over the ages, and new ones overridden them.Einsteins theories remains the root of many scientific inventions like the CCD chips used in digital cameras today. So give me list of theories that were overridden and inventions that was thrown away because it's theories were overridden. Well, science is meant for the non-scientist to believe but for the scientists to know. So on what basis should we believe the bible? Because the bible said that the bible should be believed? How do you explain that a person has a dream and it comes to pass exactly that way? Science? MagicHere she goes again. I can't explain it, therefore it must god! Quick one, we have sex dolls now but no scientist has been able to create a human, brain, flesh, blood, nobody... Why is that? No scientist can even create a mosquito... Because they don't know the prototype, they can never know because they were created too... If we evolved, why don't we keep evolving to maybe, humans with wings coz I sure need to fly.No god can make an amputee grow limbs but science have been providing prosthetic legs to amputees so they could walk again. Science have been able to invent other artificial body parts such as heart, tooth, breast, etc. and no god can boast of such feat. Why can't a god who created make repairs or replacement of totally damaged or deformed parts? Why do people believe in efficacy of science in curing sickness and deseases than prayers? Instead of asking why humans are not still evolving, you should ask yourself this instead - if god created everything, why doesn't he keep recreating animals that have gone extinct? I have not quoted the Bible at any time and my underlying argument is, There is God, call him whatever name you like but there is a force behind all these.You believe in god not because he is real, but because you were taught to believe, and then you realise you also need him to explain your ignorance and satisfaction in not understanding the mysteries surrounding the world. |
Since new sins are coming out like having sex with a sex doll, god should kuku look for one herdsmen in Israel to inspire to write one more book that will enlist all new sins which didn't make it to the current bible. If herdsmen scarce for Israel, we get dem plenty for naija ![]() |
How do you know what is doing you is spiritual attack and not something else? Like do you see ghosts with cutlass or machetes or what? I need to know cos it might be happening to me or someone I know and we wouldn't know since we don't know what spiritual attack looks like. What's really happening to you? |
karllemah44:First, how will you differentiate words inspired by god from that inspired by man's own desires? |
WarriFirstBorn:This is why you may be wrong. How much evidence will you gather before you know you are not wrong? Is it until you become the bride herself? |
HCpaul:Nothing will kill Christianity faster than information which the internet has brought to our finger tip. That is why the say in this great era of information, ignorance is a choice! |
Omooba77:What about when Europeans hated the gods of our fathers, burnt their worship places and killed their spirit? What did you say then? That the gods of our forefathers are powerless. The truth is all gods are powerless. Look at how China demolished God's house and no shit happened just like nothing happened when Europeans destroyed our shrines. The truth is that we humans have been killing ourselves all these while to prove who has the best imaginary friend. No existing loving god will remain hidden and watch humanity kill themselves because of who has the most true and loving god. It's just crazy! |
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urahara:If your sisters are adults, I wonder how their private life will be of utmost concern to you. Take your mind off frivolities and enjoy your life peacefully. |
sonofluc1fer:
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Jesus never died. He only gave up his weekend
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shadeyinka:Reference to scientific theories by atheist is just to let the theist know there are other tangible, testable and verifiable possibilities (not yet facts) of human existence unlike theistic belief of an invisible god who lives in an invisible abode and wants humans to come there after they die. Everything is just intangible, untestable and unverifiable, and one have to just accept them by faith. That's crazy! Well, I have spent good time to enlighten you about atheism, even using analogies. But you can still suit yourself with your assumptions if that makes you happy and satisfies your wishful thinking. But if you sincerely want to know, then feel free to ask me questions. Have a nice day. |
shadeyinka:Nobody told you atheism is a conclusion. Nobody told you atheism have the answers to all world problems. I'm glad you did a bit of physics. In science, there are several instance in science when we don't expect a negative value no matter what (like when calculating for TIME). An atheist is that your friend who refuse to accept your answer because it's value is negative. Not because he knows the answer, but because he knows the laws governing such scientific problems. Therefore, your friend dismissing your answer is a conclusion that you don't have the solution, but not a conclusion that your friend himself have the solution. So will you now say your friend's conclusion is base on faith? No it is base on fact governing some scientific and natural laws. Faith isn't from speculation.I never mentioned to you that there are atheistic theories or distinguished it from scientific theories, neither did i mention to you that scientific theories and knowledge are not absolute. You are only manufacturing things i didn't say and arguing against them. Atheism have no theories. Our conclusion is that we don't believe in the theistic delusional worldview that is base on faith and not facts. If you are confused with this, then read my analogy on negative value answer again. Also, you have to distinguish scientific facts/knowledge from scientific theories. Scientific theories are possibilities, and it is illogical to accept them as facts because you can't prove whether they are true or not. Please always speak for yourself dear, I don't subscribe to a delusional worldview, so refrain from all attempt to drag atheism to your position. It's funny how you guys try so hard to make atheism look like a RELIGION that have a CREED believed by FAITH. If RELIGION and FAITH is that fashionable, and atheism is unpleasant, then why trying hard to crop atheism into it? |
shadeyinka:It is actually a signpost revealing that some people are still gullible I am also aware that most Christians have gone to churches devoid of the supernatural hence its understandable why doctrine alone doesn't do much.Holding religious believes is ridiculous, unreasonable and illogical. I've been on both sides so I can judge better The difference is simply that atheists see the world ONLY from the material and logical point of view whereas I see the world from both Material, Logical and Spiritual point of view.Fallacy of composition. All atheists are guided by the own personal reasoning. So next time try to mention the name of that atheist that made you believe so. Meanwhile, I'm not against you speaking or yourself but don't categorize me with few atheists you have made encounter with. Yes you are a product of Faith in your knowledge as sufficient enough.Faith results from speculation; knowledge results from fact. They are like two parallel lines that can never meet. The Expanding Universe is a proof of the Universe having a beginning. If it has a beginning, what led to its sudden appearance?I don't know. Tell me. The best atheist explanation is that the universe had always existed in other form.You read this from an atheist creed that said all atheist agree to this? Or you have got several explanations from different atheist and this happened to be the best from your judgement? If it is the former, please tell me where you got a copy of that book. If it is the latter, then cool. Different people with their different worldviews. It's allowed. Hence my statement:Are you talking of big bang and evolution? These are scientific theories, not atheist theories. They are mere theories that still has the possibility of coming out as being true or false. It is open to any of the two options, hence it can not be termed as faith since there is not yet an absolute acceptance or rejection which will only come after the complete facts and evidence are presented. Then, it will be a accepted base on knowledge and not by belief, and base on fact and not by faith. |
shadeyinka:In essence, your video of unverifiable ridiculous claim proves the existence of supernatural? Most atheists feed themselves with only information's that support their theory AND gloss over those that can cast a doubt on their faith.Most atheist were once Christians. What amount of christian doctrine do they still need to feed themselves with? The best ways to put it is that atheist are lead by reasoning and logic, while dismissing every other ridiculous and absurd claims, including yours perhaps. But at the end: we are both products of faithYou alone is a product of faith. I am a product of knowledge. Speak for yourself. And I have not seen any atheist mention that matter came into existence by chance. The theist themselves invented such claim so that they could have straws to clutch at. |
shadeyinka:So what point are you trying to prove? |

is it poor understanding or you just don't care.