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k4kenny:
Most of the most heinous crimes commited in history were done by non Muslims. You are just one of the many indoctrinated by the media into believing terrorism belongs to a certain faith or group of people. Emancipate yourself from mental slavery.

Peace out.

Here we go again with the Blame game.

I agree I'm Indoctrinated by the Media but we both will agree that these Media didn't Indoctrinate Boko Haram, ISIS, Taliban, Ansaru, Bandits, Al-Qaeda and the rest of your brethren.

Topmost is that, these terrorists were not Indoctrinated by a Pastor, in a Church with a Bible rather they were deceived by an Islamic Cleric, in a Mosque using a Quran.

So who is a slave now ?? The Earlier you guys admit that Islam has a fundamental problem or is actually false, the better for the rest of the world.

I won't really blame these Players.

They are plying their trade under the banner of a cursed entity. Nigeria is cursed, take it out and back. It stays the same just like the law of Gravity.

They better disengage themselves before this Corpse called Nigeria before it putrefies their Destinies.

Before you make a reply, go and consult Anthony Joshua and co.

Please what is keeping this thread alive

As a Nigerian atm, I want to state that Kenya is a huge margin on a better trajectory than this zoo called Nigeria. And this applies to all ramifications.

Unlettered:
Salam brother, Islam is a religion of rules and guidelines. In life, whoever is not guided by rules is either not living or has gone astray. E.g. to get a visa to a country, you have to accept and qualify to their rules and regulations. So what makes you think Allah SWT who’s the creator, sustainer and provider will just create all that is there to see with no rules to guide it?

Even a simple baby cradle has a manual on how to fix it which is being made by the crafter to guide you on how to fix it.

So i suggest you seek for knowledge or stay away from the said religion. Its your choice. Surah kafirun made it clear, islam is cant be forced on non-believers. You can join the islam and follow its rules and guideline of Quran and hadith. Or you stay away and do as you like. Simple.

W/salam

So do you qualify for Heaven by the number of Hours you pray or by actually being a good person.

As I said, this mentality breeds Hypocrisy.

According to your Explanation, A terrorist can be confident in his atrocity as long as he prays he a stipulated quantity of hours or so.

This is what differentiates True Faith from Earthly Religion

I have been monitoring my mentions by Muslim apologists with their weak defence.

I will respond to you all when I have time, in the meantime keep deceiving yourselves with useless lies

Reflect7:
I can't, because your greedy intent, which is to corner Nigeria's oil and gas resources under the guise of 'Igbo self-determination', never changes. The personnel might change, ig Ojukwu to Kanu etc, but the intent - to acquire that oil and gas of the Niger Delta, no matter how many of your dear Igbos are killed, remains the same.

Is it that Oil and Gas in Imo, Anambra or Abia we want to corner or which one ??
Better wise up and drop your old tricks

olatuns2017:
Hate with passion

Hell with ur all

Una trap they lagos waiting 4 u

Chaii... Pele Oloriburukuni

See self induced psychological torture.

Why the hate, did they buy out your ancestral land or out-competed your father out of business.

olatuns2017:
Irony
IPOBs winning Naija show

Woww, it is now clear that your anger and bitterness is not about IPOB but Igbos.
Keep Hating Us, You will disexist to see us thrive. Isee

richmond500:
Will your state survive if every states collects VAT because there will be different VAT for different states assuming each States collects its own VAT

States like IMO, Kebbi, Zamfara, Osun will need to have 1000% increase to break-even, meaning despite this, they won't still make profile from tax, while the most viable state like Bayelsa will have at least 200% increase to break-even, it is not rocket science to know that at least 30 states will go bankrupt.

States like Lagos, Rivers and Oyo will have people coming into the states daily in numbers due to massive inflation in their respective states which will lead to overpopulation in Rivers and Lagos(already overpopulated), only 3 States will keep progressing geometrically while the rest states will have a massive decline in commerce and trade.

Me, I no go like Almajiri and Ipob in Rivers state o, we never deal with cultism problem finish

This half witted fellow ehnn, how does VAT allocation relate to inflation.

Brimstone77:
this is my main reason of viewing this thread and I'm not disappointed...


A day without zombies mentioning ipob or Igbo is like a day wasted....

richmond500 a Zombie indeed.

This guys their hate can't just be hidden, the more they try to sound platonic the more it slips out.

He capitalized lmo and tagged Ipob equating with Almajiri as if Igbos ever begged from whatever insignificant group he belongs. Irony that this sentiment is likely coming from people who claimed abandoned properties and businesses belonging to others after Civil War. Shameless

haekymbahd:
Hello I am not in support of terrorism. Allah didn't order muslim s to get involve in terrorism if anyone does that they are going contrary to the law for example

* Via Qur'an English http://quran-en.com

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Hold it a bit. You are getting things mixed up.

You are confusing religion for Christianity.

You mentioned a lot of horrible perpetrated by various Christian groups and Organizations which are true to the fact.
Now let's differentiate Religion from Christianity.

Of all you mentioned including the slavery of fellow humans, invasion and subjugation of people and their lands, forced conversion and arbitrary murder.
Can any of these acts be supported by the Life and Teachings of Jesus Christ or that of his earliest apostles and followers. NO!!

You won't find an instance where Jesus or the Apostles encouraged or engaged in any of these acts.

Now the term Christian was coined in Antioch in reference to those who acted or behaved like Christ. Therefore if someone deviates from the exemplary lifestyle of Christ, he or she and their actions can never be affiliated with true Christianity.
Religion on the other hand fuses true faith with human politics and cultures, a mixture that can never preserve the integrity of true Christianity.
So your points are invalid points and can't count.

Now, If I was to present my case as you did, lo and behold it will be valid because Muhammad, the last prophet was a Slave Owner, a Raider, a Warlord and Invader who was killed by one of his prisoners of war .
His earliest apostles too followed suit even to the point of assassinating themselves.

So you can clearly differentiate Religious Extremists from true Christianity. Islam on the other hand cannot be separated from Religious Extremism from the originator down to modern day believers

haekymbahd:
Allah never ordered Muslims to kill unjustly..

Allah SWT said:

"Allah does not forbid you from those who do not fight you because of religion and do not expel you from your homes - from being righteous toward them and acting justly toward them. Indeed, Allah loves those who act justly."
(QS. Al-Mumtahana 60: Verse

"Allah only forbids you from those who fight you because of religion and expel you from your homes and aid in your expulsion - [forbids] that you make allies of them. And whoever makes allies of them, then it is those who are the wrongdoers."
(QS. Al-Mumtahana 60: Verse 9)

"Say, Come, I will recite what your Lord has prohibited to you. [He commands] that you not associate anything with Him, and to parents, good treatment, and do not kill your children out of poverty; We will provide for you and them. And do not approach immoralities - what is apparent of them and what is concealed. And do not kill the soul which Allah has forbidden [to be killed] except by [legal] right. This has He instructed you that you may use reason."
(QS. Al-An'aam 6: Verse 151)

* Via Qur'an English http://quran-en.com


Muslims are commanded to follow the commandments of Allah. If anyone go against this he or she is not a Muslim.. Muhammad was a prophet just like the previous prophet used by God to establish true worship in the process of lt lead to war and blood shed this was nothing new considering history of isreal right from the time of Noah (the flood), Sodom and Gomora, death at red sea (Moses) e.t.c

Moses was commanded to kill by God that does not mean his followers must go on a killing spree after his death. There are laws given to them to follow. Muslims do not have right to take life unjustly anyone involved in this act are not true muslims and not righteous in Allahs sight.


If we truly look indepth into the cause of terrorism in the world we would truly see that it more about politics than religious issue. There are bound to be disobedient followers if as peaceful as Jesus is said to be his follower still created a group known as Crusaders and killed loads of people e.t.c will you blame it on Jesus or Moses...

Don't be Ignorant.

The Ottoman Empire was invading Christian Lands so the Roman Catholic Church funded military campaigns to respond to Islamic aggression as always in those regions.

Turkey was once the Christian Byzantine Empire before it fell to the Ottoman Empire who made it their Crown Jewel. The Crusaders were defeated there.

So don't equate the noble Crusaders with your whatever.

IJOBA11 and haekymbahd

Shimran:
One thing is certain with Islam: had it mean it really had innocent people's blood in her hand, it would have vanished and went into extinction years long ago.

Does this world look like a just one to you.

If so, Corrupt politicians would have lived short lives and died shameful deaths but rather it's the good poor guys that are dieing due to poverty.

haekymbahd:
Jesus does not have to kill, other prophets of God before Jesus fought and kill not even a single one of them including Jesus Is good.

Since Jesus is your God Who sent Moses, David, Samuel to kill, Jesus might not kill physically but since he is God according to christians then he Gave orders to kill.

1. The Flood (Genesis 6-
2. The cities of the plain, including Sodom and Gomorrah (Genesis 18-19)
3. The Egyptian firstborn sons during the Passover (Exodus 11-12)
4. The Canaanites under Moses and Joshua (Numbers 21:2-3; Deuteronomy 20:17; Joshua 6:17, 21)
5. The Amalekites annihilated by Saul (1 Samuel 15)

We meet again.

Okay let's agree according to you, Jesus is a murderer, and according to Christians Muhammad is a murderer.

We have a tie here and need a tie breaker. Ok, Let's look at modern precedents and statistics.

Which religion specializes in Organized Institutionalized Terrorism. ISLAM !!
You guys beat the Terrorism Index by huge margins .

In every continent, The natural violent tendencies of Islam and Muslims rears it's ugly head.

For benefit of doubt, let's consider Asia, a region unoccupied by " Western Powers " so that we can isolate baseless claims of " Oppression and Occupation".

In Asia, Islamic Terrorism is a major threat with ugly incident in recent years.
Bombay and Mumbai Bombings in India, Sri Lanka Church bombing in 2019. Even Indonesia, the country with largest Muslim population ruled and governed by Muslims yet there is the threat of Islamic Terrorism. A threat from "Christian Terrorism" is basically non-existent in such a critical country.

Even Socialist China is forced to violate human rights inorder to control Islam before it manifest it's true colors. National Security first.

Coming back home, we don't need to remind ourselves of the same Muslims who kill and maim muslims and Non-muslims as if it was part of God's revelation to Muhammad.

It is a disgrace that nowadays Muslims are still in the denial phase, denying that terrorists are true Muslims, denying that these terrorists were not brainwashed not with a Bible in a Church but with a Quran in a Mosque.
When will we all concede that Islam in it's entirety is Terrorism Objectified ??

Shimran:
QUESTION:
Isn't prophet Muhammed himself partially responsible for the early wars in Arabia because he robbed caravans (when he was in Medina), which evolved into battles? If Muhammed did not rob these caravans, wouldn't that have saved lives?

IJOBA11:
PROPHET MOSES FOUGHT WAR, JOSHUA FOUGHT WAR, PROPHET DAVID FOUGHT WAR AND LASTLY, PROPHET MUHAMMAD FOUGHT WAR.

haekymbahd:
Neither Muhammad or Isa (Jesus) is good only Allah the creator is Good.
Mark 10
18 And Jesus said to him, Why do you call Me [[m]essentially and perfectly [n]morally] good? There is no one [[o]essentially and perfectly [p]morally] good --except God alone

Just take a look at grown men defending Institutionalized Terrorism. Take time to examine Muhammad's motive for taking the first life ?

Was it an act of self-defence ? NO !!
Was it to execute Justice ? NO !!
Was it to maintain Peace ? NO !!

He just had one agenda, confront, defeat and convert the Unbelievers. A pure maniac. That was how Islam started from him and spread to the rest of the world. From the Abu Bakr to Ottoman Empire to the Bornu Kingdom in Nigeria here.

Usman Dan Fodio was hosted by generous Indigenes. Unprovoked, he and his wild dogs turned on the Indigenes, subjugated them and converted them. They did this up to Kwara thus infecting the erstwhile progressive Yoruba nation.

God had to intervene and give the Western world the upper hand, enough to demolish the Ottoman Empire. If not this barbaric people would have done the worst.

Why will Muhammad go on a killing and looting spree just because the Unbelievers rejected his doctrine and banished him for constituting nuisance.
They inflicted no bodily harm on him yet he chose to pay them back in the Devil's fashion, A typical career terrorist.

If you can't convince them, kill them. What sort of barbaric of logic.
Tomorrow when a brainwashed Muslim sees Non-muslims succeeding and dominating life, applying the same logic , they go on Jihad. Then the stupid terrorist and the silent sympathisers ( 70% of Muslims like the guys above) will justify their petty envy with claims that the victims are sinners or some bs.

Keep defending Terrorism, soon it will consume you whole ask your colleagues in Syria, Afghanistan and Nigeria.

thebosstrevor1:
So he has oil wells in the south south but his people are shouting that only northerners own oil wells in Nigeria

When did Oil Well become synonymous to South-South. Get Updated boy. South-East is an active Oil and Gas producer.

Jamesbally:
Trash.
No one takes you People serious. Till the day all Igbos start relocating to the East. That's when we will take you People serious. As it stands now, many Igbos are relocating to the North, West and South South in search of greener pastures.

How will you achieve BIAFRA when IGBOS can't leave in the EAST?

How can I take you serious about your hatred for Igbos when you and your people have not started driving Igbos out of your community.

The phrase " Unity of Nigeria is non-negotiable " should be paraphrased to " Unity with Igbos is non-negotiable " Unity beggars

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Jamesbally:
Abeg comot ABIA for that list[/b]

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ooh Jamesbally we meet again. What pains you about Igbos succeeding. See what hate can cause. Tueehh ... Tommorow they will call us children of hate.

You didn't see Niger.

Jamesbally:
South East can't survive without North, West and South South.

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Is that why the handicap Giant of Africa is fighting us from going our own way ??
Protest for Igbos to be kicked out so that you can finally find food to eat. Let us see how it will go in the end. Small minds

JohnSin97:
If we give this people their 5 state biafra with border walls and strict immigration policies they wouldn't survive a year before they go cannibal on each other.

Until little minded Africans broaden their mindset, physical boundaries will remain their limitation.

Human Resources and Network outperform Natural Resources time after time. God for saw it and willed it that way.
Everywhere you go, our network cable is submerged. Keep waiting for us to die so that you can eat. Poor fellow.

Attached picture below. Switzerland is a landlocked country about 22 times smaller than your giant " Nigeria ". Yet Switzerland literally controls global commodity trade remotely. Capital can never be landlocked

We don't need to live in the Homeland before we identify ourselves, talk about Jews.

Take it easy bro, Hate kills

Alhajiemeritus:
It's not only Taqiyah, it's Takulaya.
Do your research and answer your own question.
Bring all your evidences here and let's trash them out.

Don't let sentiment block reasoning. I said the Wikipedia article contained citations from notable Muslim scholars, scriptures and biographies.

Here are some of them attached below. I understand that you are a nominal Muslim or a hypocrite but more devout and learned ones in your class can attest to the fact that Muhammad fought battles and raided caravans.


" We used to fight along with the prophet " Sahih al-Bukhari

Alhajiemeritus:
Go and read Hadith and Sunna and any other biography is a general statement which does not provide any evidence.
Bring your evidence and you'll have an audience.

One of my pieces of evidence is this Wikipedia page ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_Muslim-Meccan_Conflict ) contributed by Muslim scholars with citations of various Islamic religious books and biographies.

You can Google it by typing Early Muslim-Meccan Conflict. Your Muslim scholars claimed he did it to weaken Medina economically but I am certain he did it out of the nature of an aggressive thief and to feed his hungry jobless followers, who left their livelihoods to follow a fake prophet.

Alhajiemeritus:
Go and read Hadith and Sunna and any other biography is a general statement which does not provide any evidence.
Bring your evidence and you'll have an audience.

Did Muhammad kill anybody in his lifetime ??

Did Muhammad ever cure someone's disease, change their life and resurrect life ??

Did Muhammad's successor have a power struggle that resulted in the assassination of Caliph Ali

If you answer YES for the first question, NO for the second question, and YES for the last one, then I know you are a hypocrite or practicing taqiyya

haekymbahd:
Hello were you not aware that Jerusalem was cursed and God deserted them.

Mathew 23

37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, murdering the prophets and stoning those who are sent to you! How often would I have gathered your children together as a mother fowl gathers her brood under her wings, and you refused!

38 Behold, your house is forsaken and desolate (abandoned and left destitute of God's help). [I Kings 9:7; Jer. 22:5.]

39 For I declare to you, you will not see Me again until you say, Blessed (magnified in worship, adored, and exalted) is He Who comes in the name of the Lord!(F)



Is facing a direction physical limitation. Allah can only be worshipped in spirit because we cannot see him God having a a house doesn't mean he cannot be worshipped in spirit.

Were the Jews worshipping God physically can they see him?

Don't quote me again bro I will not reply. I am serious.

Sorry to say you are not reasoning at all. How will you say facing a fixed direction is not a physical limitation. If you can not face anywhere or stay in any posture to pray that constitutes a physical limitation.

You keep mentioning Bible verses that scolds Jerusalem, now I'm asking did the bible tell Christians/Jews to stop worshipping in Jerusalem and relocate to Mecca and continue worship ?? Please think or stop disturbing me. Idolatry is a sin.

haekymbahd:
So are you saying the Jews facing a direction when praying is idolatry and God was against it.

Allah SWT said:

"We have certainly seen the turning of your face, [O Muhammad], toward the heaven, and We will surely turn you to a qiblah with which you will be pleased. So turn your face toward al-Masjid al-Haram. And wherever you [believers] are, turn your faces toward it [in prayer]. Indeed, those who have been given the Scripture well know that it is the truth from their Lord. And Allah is not unaware of what they do."
(QS. Al-Baqara 2: Verse 144)

"And if you brought to those who were given the Scripture every sign, they would not follow your qiblah. Nor will you be a follower of their qiblah. Nor would they be followers of one another's qiblah. So if you were to follow their desires after what has come to you of knowledge, indeed, you would then be among the wrongdoers."
(QS. Al-Baqara 2: Verse 145)

* Via Qur'an English http://quran-en.com

I already showed you the books of Exodus in the Bible drafted from the Torah where God instructed the Jews not to bow before any graven image of things on the surface or below the earth.

He also never gave Abraham any directive ( in the Bible and Torah ) to pray facing any particular altar or direction, bowing or standing.

The jews facing the temple is not something ordained by God probably a tradition that Muhammad later plagiarized.
The Jerusalem temple never existed in Abraham's lifetime ( The patriarch of the Jews ) so where did God ordain him to face during prayer? Use logic, please.

God telling Muhammad to turn to the qiblah is a commandment that contradicts the command against Idolatry which he instructed. So Satan is behind that not the true God.