₦airaland Forum

Mzdivacious:
my dear ma'am don't be biased...anyone wt a brain knows boko haram isn't à religious agenda.that fact is established maam

Dare tell me "anyone wt a brain knows boko haram isn't à religious agenda " Do you have brains airhead ?

As for this biasness, again this is an airhead response. Boko Haram members are not Christians they are Muslims, they call on Allah and they also forces Chibok girls and others to convert. So which brain do you have? That fact fact you are talking about was established by airheads.

Whether Muslims distance themselves from Boko Haram or not, the fact is Boko Haram introduced themselves as Muslims and they want Nigeria Islamised and they also subscribe to Sharia, so shut the hell up.

Mzdivacious:
BTW ma'am I see takleboy s point.going thru ur thread u do not seem mistreated !!!in fact u seem more taken care of than in Nigeria!!!his point is the reason u take it as mistreatment is cos ur not used tothat culture .natives of Saudi definitely don't see t mistreatment lol.they r used to it#wheninromebhavelikearoman# if an Arabian woman came to Nigeria n had to work in a laboratory where long unsmart dresses r prohibited.she d take it as "not treated right" or "no freedom" too...I hope u understand

Honestly you sound like a fifth grader. I honestly don't know where to start because the head of yours is empty. I don't understand stupidity that's my weakness,



On being taken care of than in Nigeria, I honestly don't get you. I work here and have forfeited my following rights just to have a better financial future but that does not mean I am free. Just to name a few, I have forfeitted my
1. freedom of association, - I have to always have a driver to do things,
(Saudi woman are not allowed to walk alone in public,they have to have a male guardian always.That male guardian can be a 12 yr old son )

2. freedom to drive - I cant drive even though from SA I was driving my own car having the freedom of mobility
( Saudi woman want that freedom reinstated. 12 yr old boys drive cars here for their mothers and sisters because they cant drive cars because they are the wrong gender and hence there is a lot of accidents )

3. freedom of speech - You cant even say Jesus in public because you will go to jail straight.
( Saudi woman want freedom of speech )

4. freedom of choice
( Saudi woman want that, they dont attend university or school let alone travel to other countries unless their male guardians agree too it, and that male guardian can be a 12yr old son in the event of being widowed )

So don't be a spokesperson for Saudi woman and assume on their behalf when you have never experienced half of what they are going through. This lab example is lame. I just gave you real examples above which are beyond dressing, so open you brains and think bigger.

You also don't seem to understand what was the debate about. The debate was about erecting a Mosque in a Christian country and a church in a Muslim country and whether both really have freedom to do so in those countries.

With regards to ##wheninromebhavelikearoman# rubbish, I do as they do. I wear Abaya and Niqqab. So please urgue intelligently.

The fact is Muslim dont give Christians freedom in some countries where they are the majority, They always want things done their way. And they also fear apostasy among their own. And here my dear Apostasy is punishable by death.

So dont divert the topic, the life I live here does not equate to Freedom that you reckon Muslims of Saudi Arabia are affording me.

I had much more freedom in South Africa and Nigeria than in Saudi Arabia. The only better benefit is that I earn more to achieve my financial goals.


So I don't see the biasness you are talking about.

takleboy:
Well, i wont argue anyfurther because i just check yr moniker and read one of ye thread regarding saudi, but i still dont want to bliv that there is no single church in d whole of saudi or a xtian non saudi cant be allowed to kip bible in his home and mind u muslims have bible too, pls note that saudi is the land of the two holy mosque for muslims, that in mecca and madinah, d culture might b oppressive to xtians or others likewise some other ppl culture is oppressive to muslims too. Just that xtians are quick to whine. back to nigeria, tell me if there is mosque in d core southeast and southwest state, delta, crossriver, bayelsa and so on, wia u find mosque is only in d barracks. But lest i forget i mention wellfarism that xtians in saudi got but thnk God i read one of yr thread and saw so many perks attached to yr jobs that u r entitle to. and y do u say oppress if wen u mind yr bisness u @ peace and no one is forcing u to go mosque, ma sista i know saudi isnt presenting a life like u r used to in nigeria. but i think wht they do is modest enuff

All I was arguing was that Muslim countries treat christians well.I quoted Saudi Arabia your Muslim head office ( with Mecca and Medina ) and I told you there is no church. Their Laws do not permit such. Truly there is no church in Saudi Arabia and Christians are oppressed. Even in Pakistan you are talking about they have bombed Catholic Churches and killed several Christians. I am not sure which rock you have been living under. The perks you are talking about is irrelevant and lame argument. The fact is Muslims are much more intolerant in a lot of Muslim countries. Close good example, your brothers in the North, killing Christians and later Muslims.

Go back under that rock, it may be comfortable for you. Too ignorant for my liking.

takleboy:
Sentimental u, go there and check d wellfarism of christains and compare it to that of muslims in xtian dominated countries. Tell me any islamic country that dint allow church to b? not even pakistan and afhganistan nor iraq and iran.

Not true at all. I am in Saudi, u cannot even bring a bible here. Here you cannot even say Jesus and walk free. Christians are the most oppressed here. Some Christian websites are banned, I was shocked that the cable TV managed to have a channel. Is Saudi Arabia there is no CHURCH. Don't lie.

Kagarko:
Yes oooh that's very nice and indeed a nice masjid for one to pray at anytime I visits vanice.

Alhamdulillah masha Allah.

Funny that Mecca or Saudi Arabia can never allow this to happen.

ugsams:
Oh! That was a very detailed and informative piece. You are a great woman, your husband is really blessed.

I had to go through some of your posts on Nairaland. I will just have to follow your account on Nairaland. At this point i have to baptize you from ChineloSA to ChineloSASA

"SASA" meaning South Africa and Saudi Arabia

ChineloSASA classic

Syncan:
Yes.

Thanks a lot. Will do.

May God's will be done.

@ Syncan much appreciated.

Kamsified:
Please find the latest novena update below

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Frodobee. May 22nd
Btoks May 24th
Woky May 25th
Hurricanechris 26th
Jennydoris May 27th
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Please note that the 11th, 15th,16th,18th,23rd,28th and 29th are still available

God help us as we continue to prepare. Amen

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TayoT:
You guys dont know about an island called St. Kitts and Nevis. It is almost stronger than the American passport

This report disagrees with you your St Kitts and Nevis is number 29.

ugsams:
I said some form of ban because it is not so obvious. The lady i met there confided in me that even if i apply the visa online that there is restriction on granting visas to Nigerians, although i believe it could be temporary.

Offcourse the fault is not entirely on the Nigerian government, but if they had done what is right and developed our country the level of people travelling abroad will be very minimal and it will be mostly the adventurous and curious ones who will go for either education, tourism, business or work as expats in other countries.

But things are bad that even someone who cannot locate the location of Nigeria in the map of Africa or even guess the continents of the world are all travelling out. These less enlightened categories of people are the ones that have spoilt the name of the country more, they are willing to go to anywhere, do anything to make money because money has become the primary source of happiness in the country.

You build your own house without any assistance, generate your own electricity, water, security, cater for your children and aged parents welfare and also plan for your own welfare when you are old. Nigeria has failed us?

Your name is feminine, and does the SA on it represent South Africa? If yes, considering their phobia for strangers and visitors, how is life over there for ladies? Is it in anyway better than it is for the male?

Very sad, but as Nigerians we can only blame ourselves because we vote for the same government that screws us.


Yes, I am Nigerian though my family have been in South Africa for quiet a long time. I did my High school and University in South Africa, that really tells you how long we have been here.

Honestly speaking when our family got SA, South Africans were not as Xenophobic as they are now. If they were, they were good at hiding it. They would only make fun about how we speak and food but it never amounted to Xenophobia. In fact Nigerian man were a hot things then. South Africans then didnt even know where Nigeria is. Then came bad Nigerians in numbers, things fell apart.

But the nice part about SA is there are ghetto's which were built by the old apartheid government and some new government and there are surburbs which are nice places for middle and high income earners. So if as a foreigner you go live in the ghetto, they you are likely to have been a victim of Xenophobia. But if you live in the suburbs and mind your own business, highly unlikely that you will be a victim of Xenophobia.

In business and also jobs you are likely to experience xenophobia, reason being, Nigerians are know for scams so very few business wanna deal with us and also South African government have policies ( BEE ) to boast previously disadvantaged ( apartheid ) locals businesses, so as a foreigner you are the last on the list of their business partners unless you partner with a South African.

But if you are a doctor or any other careers educated particularly in South Africa, South Africa is a good place to benefit from your hard labour than Nigeria. It is also still a good African country to get their passport since they still have some respect for their education etc. and their black locals don't travel or migrate alot, so its always easier with a South African passport.

With regards to business, small foreign business really contribute but don't grow big because of BEE and the fact that South African are not too receptive to foreign businesses unless you partner with them. Yes Nigerians and other Africans have salons, scrapyards, etc. but its not really big businesses which are ready to compete even within SA with SA businesses of the same kind, let alone spread within SA. So its just family or individual businesses with no clear vision to spread but just a vision to support their families.
In South Africa ( black and white )business operate with a vision to operate in all their towns and cities through franschises which has really helped develop their small towns as well, so Nigerian businesses are not at that level. They are just businesses with very little vision. e.g. Shoprite, Mr Price, Steer, Spur, is likely to be in all cities, minor metropoles and even small towns, they are used to making a brand uniform all over by franchising and there are Nigerians who have bought franchises. But I have never seen a foreign owned business started in SA franschising within SA.

As a foreign woman with no SA passport or ID or Education, its not easy.But generally with recession, jobs have been scarce and poverty getting worse for locals and hence the locals blame it on foreigners.

But right now I am out of South Africa and I work in Saudi Arabia ( using their passport to my advantage ), but I will go back since my family is based in South Africa. My husband and I have also started building our financial portfolio in South Africa, so we may be in SA for a long time.

But don't believe everything by bloggers and journalists, it can be exaggerated. There are so many Educated Nigerians living in South Africa and making it. and there are so many Nigerians on blogs and social networks who have been to SA by internet but have never left the shores of Nigeria.

badesco:
Kindly gives us the source of this info.

http://www.persecondnews.com/index.php/component/k2/item/3529-breaking-news-fresh-uae-nigeria-diplomatic-row-brewing-as-dubai-banks-close-accounts-of-nigerian-politicians-studentsothers

i hope they are credible news site

ugsams:
You are absolutely right on the disclaimer, the list is getting smaller by the day. just last year i went for business inquiry at the Sri Lanka consulate at Dubai and discovered there is some form of ban on Nigerians.

Really?? Very sad. . What kind of "some form of ban"?

But the problem is not entirely on the government but also on citizens who misbehave and do unacceptable activities when they get to host countries.

Cherlene:
Good evening

May I ask is there anything wrong?
Yes dear.

Cherlene

You have plenty time she. Carry on love.

nkemdi89:
Our politicians should encourage our own and should remove sentiments . Imagine when MTN was given license and obasanjo refuse to give GLO license on the ground that adenuga as yoruba man didn't support him for election because the yorubas vowed that they won't vote an EX_convict was he not almost frustrated out of establishing GLO? That was how HITV was frustrated out of business too. That was how startime was frustrated by the present adminstration before they started operation.Innoson is being encouraged by the outgoing adminstration, we pray the incoming will also support them.

No one can ever frustate you out of business if you offer good service. Its a lie. Thats a failures excuse from admitting that he failed.

Can you frustrate KFC? KFC has managed to survive in alot of countries with over 700 stores . they have even survived, kosher and halaal laws.

So please sister. very lame excuse.

Trut:
But they have power to suck our money, I suggest Nigerians should boycott their services and go for the alternative.

I have been hearing that word " boycott " since 1200BC.

Yellow fever card/ Deportation row -------- lets boycott
Diplomatic rows -------------- boycott
Xenophobia --------------------boycott

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America’s biggest airlines say the luxury carriers of the oil-rich Persian Gulf aren't playing fair. But are Emirates, Etihad, and Qatar Airways subsidized -- or just smarter?


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BY AFSHIN MOLAVIMAY 4, 2015facebooktwittergoogle-plusredditemail
The Arab Battle for U.S. Skies
DUBAI, United Arab Emirates — Amid the turmoil and tumult of today’s Middle East, the region achieved a quiet milestone in 2014: Dubai International Airport surpassed London Heathrow to become the world’s busiest airport, measured in terms of international passengers. With its faux palm trees, Porsche raffles, and glittering duty-free shops selling everything from Scottish single malts and Havana cigars to Swiss chocolates, gold bars, and local dates, the airport, at times, feels like a 21st-century shrine to consumerist globalization.

But look beyond the duty-free glitter and do some people-watching, and you’ll see one of the most cosmopolitan collections of peoples under a single roof anywhere. A group of salwar kameez-clad Pakistani tribesman with red henna beards and white turbans fawn over the latest iPhone. A Kenyan sports team in tracksuits orders sandwiches at a Subway. A tanned European couple with Louis Vuitton hand luggage flip through magazines. A group of young Iranian women shop for perfume, a gaggle of Chinese and Indians buy gold, and a Balkanish-looking fellow in a black leather jacket and neck tattoo yells into a phone.

In 2014, Forbes magazine noted that Dubai is the most air-connected city on the planet, contributing to its distinction as the seventh “most influential” city in the world. Jad Mouawad of the New York Times points out that this Persian Gulf city-state has emerged as an air superhub, a modern crossroads connecting East and West. The rise of Dubai and other Arabian Peninsula air hubs — Abu Dhabi and Doha — have reshaped global commercial aviation. And the Gulf “Big Three” airlines — Emirates in Dubai, Etihad Airways in Abu Dhabi, and Qatar Airways in Doha — have emerged as major global carriers, capable of going toe to toe with the industry’s giants.

Their rise has coincided with the emergence of a new global middle class and an attendant surge in global air travel. Unsurprisingly, the fastest-growing market in air travel comes from emerging economies — places that the Gulf carriers serve well. According to the Airbus’s Global Market Forecast, emerging markets will account for nearly two-thirds of all air travel by 2033.

The three hubs of Dubai, Abu Dhabi, and Doha are blessed with fortunate commercial geography: They are a four-hour flight to one-third of the world’s population and an eight-hour flight to two-thirds. Any self-respecting McKinsey study would have told these governments to build air hubs and national airlines to exploit their comparative geographic advantage.Any self-respecting McKinsey study would have told these governments to build air hubs and national airlines to exploit their comparative geographic advantage. And they did.

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It was inevitable, then, that the Gulf carriers would eventually begin direct flights to the United States in hopes of encouraging Asian, African, Middle Eastern, and Australian travelers to use Dubai or Abu Dhabi instead of Frankfurt or London as their stopover hub en route to the United States — and, conversely, bringing U.S. travelers to Doha or Dubai on their way to Delhi, Bangkok, or Sydney. Over the past five years, the Gulf carriers have flooded the zone, with some 252 direct flights a week from their respective hubs to 10 U.S. cities, from Seattle to Chicago to New York. It’s a sound business model: feed the demand of growing traveler needs while hitting the most important market in the world.

Unsurprisingly, Delta, United, and American Airlines — the three largest U.S. carriers — are displeased. The Gulf airlines, after all, are cutting into the U.S. long-haul business, the most lucrative in aviation. Just ask Lufthansa what that looks like: The German carrier has had its market share slashed by nearly a third since 2005, as some 3 million Germans annually opt for the Gulf carriers to take them to Asia. This has been good for German consumers, to be sure. But not for Lufthansa. The same goes for the U.S. Big Three: Increased capacity may be good for the consumer, but not for them. After suffering record losses in 2008, it was their refusal to expand capacity on domestic flights, thus raising their prices, that helped them recover.

Since 2005, U.S. airlines have also been consolidating at a rapid clip: America West with U.S. Airways, Northwest with Delta, Continental with United, AirTran with Southwest, and then, most recently, U.S. Airways with American. The U.S. Airways-American merger prompted a Justice Department antitrust lawsuit. “In recent years, major airlines have, in tandem, raised fares, imposed new and higher fees and reduced service,” the Justice Department noted. Then Attorney General Eric Holder said in an August 2013 statement that “This transaction would result in consumers paying the price — in higher airfares, higher fees and fewer choices.” Ultimately, the merger was approved. Today, as a result of these consolidations, only four carriers handle 80 percent of U.S. airline seat capacity.

The war for airspace

Now, Delta, United, and American are engaged in an orchestrated campaign, suggesting that the Middle Eastern carriers have benefited unfairly from some $40 billion in subsidies from Gulf governments over the past decade. They demand that Washington curtail those carriers’ direct flights into the United States and are taking their complaint directly to the White House via that most time-honored of Washington swords: a white paper detailing their extensive allegations. They have also created a 501(c)(4) organization, Americans for Fair Skies, that is flooding the capital with advertisements, including ads on this very website.

The message of Americans for Fair Skies is simple: The Gulf carriers are operating on an uneven playing field, deriving tremendous benefits from their state ownership, including a slew of alleged subsidies. “This unprecedented level of support allows the Gulf airlines to operate not as businesses, as U.S. airlines do, but as arms of their well-heeled predatory governments,” the organization states on its website.

The Gulf carriers generally retort that consumers enjoy their award-winning premium service and benefit from their global connectivity all across Asia, Africa, and the Middle East. The independent Skytrax airline ratings agency seems to agree: The Gulf Big Three made it to the top 10 list at the agency’s prestigious 2014 World Airline Awards, while the U.S. Big Three barely cracked the top 50: Delta came in at 49, United at 53, and American at 89.

“Stop complaining,” says Danny Sebright, president of the U.S.-UAE Business Council, to U.S. carriers, and “start competing.” Sebright is not alone. A broad network of American businesses — from Boeing to FedEx, from JetBlue to a constellation of airport councils and travel services companies — are crying foul against the U.S. carriers. It’s obvious why Boeing is uncomfortable with the U.S. carriers’ effort to limit the Middle Eastern airlines. After all, the Gulf carriers are among the biggest foreign buyers of its aircraft. At the 2013 Dubai Airshow, Emirates and Etihad dazzled the aviation world with some $100 billion in orders for Boeing aircraft. A few months later, Qatar Airways ordered another 50 Boeing aircraft, at a list price of $37.7 billion. If you’re keeping tabs, that’s nearly $140 billion of aircraft orders in less than six months. And between now and 2027, the Gulf carriers will add another 534 new wide-body aircraft to their fleets, according to Credit Suisse. That’s a lot of Boeing and Airbus planes — and lots of American and European manufacturing jobs.

But the story goes deeper than that, and it underscores a cornerstone of U.S. aviation policy: accords known as “open skies” agreements. Since 1992, the United States has negotiated more than 100 such agreements around the world, which are widely credited with expanding the global footprint of the U.S. Big Three. According to the State Department, the policy also benefits American cities like Dallas-Fort Worth, Detroit, Las Vegas, Memphis, Minneapolis, Portland, and Salt Lake City, which had virtually no international flights prior to 1992. It’s also a boon to U.S. tourism, air cargo, airports, and the aviation industry writ large.

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CLICK ON THE LINK FOR THE FULL STORY.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2015/05/04/dubai-qatar-etihad-emirates-fair-skies-open-skies-american-delta-united/

The United Arab Emirates’ aviation strategy — driven largely by each emirate — may not be a model that everyone can follow, but it’s a good example of an emerging market overachieving. It’s also something that U.S. policymakers should celebrate rather than penalize. The benefits to U.S. industry, consumers, and labor are clear, but there’s something more intangible at play here: In a region littered with economic failure and underperformance, this is a Middle Eastern success story that supports jobs, grows economies, and builds connectivity.

The numbers don’t lie. And at the airport in Dubai, one needn’t do anything more than look around to see the future of emerging-markets travel, of South and Central Asians, Arabs and Iranians, Russians and Africans, Eastern Europeans and Chinese, lining up, boarding their planes, and flying high into the Dubai sky.

Hello Tomorrow.

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buccal:
pls are Nigerians still not legible for dv lottery.tot the ban was from 2002. and its 5years already.please anybody who knows about this shld kindly reply.its urgent. tanks

Are the applications open already? If the applications are open, you should be able to see a list of countries not eligible. So I would advice you to go to their website.

KingTom:
Yeah! jamex93 can testify

You guys are lucky oooo. The Madame is rich.

kindnyce:
WELLCOME TO NIGERIA,BUT WAIT A MINUTE,IF THE GUYS WAS NOT RICH,WILL YOU HAVE MARRIED HIM?

But the rich man approached her and proposed to her.

KingTom:
That is very harsh, this woman Cherlene happens to be very nice, how many women give recharge cards to complete starngers? Apologise to her please, it is not all South Africans who are stupíd!

recharge card?

Cherlene:
Goodmorning

View the link below
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GIRZ8zx1IVM

Perhaps after viewing the video you might not be as APPALLED.

Mashed potatoes are CONSIDERABLY COMMON where I come from in CAPE TOWN, SOUTH AFRICA. Not to mention where I CURRENTLY reside in SCANDINAVIA.

Cherlene

Madame,are you gonna write your name after every post

As in, blah blah, blah....Cherlene.

snowdrops:
@ op

Cpngratulations on your job. Pay looks nice in addition to juicy incentives.
However as you alluded there is no social life. What's all that money without true freedom? Like living in the 12th century. Does not also look like where one can raise family.
Don't get me wrong it may not be my cup of tea I know millions move there en mass even as we speak.

Thanks alot.

Let me say a lot of people who are here have specific financial targets, and not to live here for good. So people here are here to make money to pay up their mortgages, or business start-ups etc. So if you have a target, you don't look at it as "lack of freedom "

Personally, I would rather spend those "freedomless " years and have debt free life in the future., than living on hand to mouth because of debts or mortgage.

As for raising kids, when your children are still in primary level, I think it could be a very good environment for them. There are alot of private schools for foreigners ( Western Education ), but from High School level, I would not want to raise my children here.

As you said, it maybe not everybody's cup of tea. But the building or saving for the future is my priority. So it all depends on priorities.

coolhamid:
Hi, can you help with the best websites to apply for jobs in middle east? What are the chances of getting job for an ICT Expat

@ coohamid, I am also new here. Perhaps in about one year I will have a bit of knowledge with regards to industries, companies etc.

So at this stage I will lying if I say I have knowledge to help you.
But I would advice you to search companies that you are targetting websites, rather than agencies. Too many scams.

gcfrcom:
LOL...You are earning almost 2million naira every month ooo, thats more than what they pay senators here oo... Biko dont forget to send my share eh

I wish I could be open about it. You should check your account soon eeehn!!

Nigayoyo:
Happy you're adapting. That's the essence of living outside one's country - exposure to different cultures! Where I worked in Dhahran, they usually double our salaries during summer (June to August) so as to encourage us not to go on vacation Keep saving!

Since I just started, there will be no double salary, but for those who have been here, they get double. Imagine some getting $9000 for just one month

masonkz:
Welcome dear.

Lol your narration really sounds strange. Not surprised though. Banks for women only??

Anyway, please keep that cash rolling

To top it all, we work from Sunday to Thursday, so today was a normal working day. I am from work as we speak.

Very strange country. I will try an upload a photo I took at the womans bank, though they don't allow taking photos anywhere.

I watched it yesterday. I was so embarrassed.

worry357:
Good pay usually goes with high cost of living.
How expensive is life there ( NOT crowded ten to a room, eating fufu for every meal!)

Cost of living is really low. Accommodation is free or paid by the employer. Fairly good estates/compounds meant for expats only.In our case we don't share, you get the whole house with min 2 bedrooms or the whole flat with min 1 bedroom if you are not married with kitchen and bathroom and living room and some dining room.
Transport is provided to and from work and shopping.
Life is fairly cheap here. One can save 90% of ones salary if you are wiser.

gcfrcom:
wow well, You are well paid

Dear, I was just generalising. Though money for all of us who are here is way much better than country of origin.

The sad part is your passport determines how well you get paid. Americans are the kings, then UK,Canada, Australia, SA.
Egypt, Jordan, India, Sudanese teachers are the least paid.

Do you know where I can buy an American passport?

Everyone is paid well but the good pay skipped me