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Just a few Qs for you preacher. Did you have your academic qualification and employment skills assessed at the once? why did you prefer CPA? My fiancee just passed her academic ielts (7.5 overall) and i have made a decision on her behalf to have ICAA assess her academic qualifications and employment skills because they seem to have the shortest processing time (4weeks). basically i just want you to shed more light on why you preferred CPA to IPA and ICAA. ALso do you think she needs to include her ICAN qualification together with her Accounting degree (UNILAG). I suggested she should do so to cover any loopholes

prechear:
Here u have it, oscarpellenchy. Ur wife will have to need hit a 7 in all IELTS band(Academic) regardless if she is going for skills Independent or state nomination just as UBKtech clarified. General is NOT accepted for Accountants. I Initially forwarded General Ielts for my assessment and I ws later asked to provide Academic.

Congratz Ma'am..God bless the new child. I have been following this thread albeit "quietly" and you have been doing a great job..seems you are more like the new Jenny here..lol. Anyone coming to Sydney soon?

bossladyMo:
Hello house! Praise the Lord with me!!!

God has blessed us with a beautiful baby girl!!! I put to bed a litte while ago!!!

This topic is somewhat misleading..JOHESU IS NOT on strike yet..Those threatening to strike are members of NUAHP (National union of allied health professionals) which i think is a sub-organisation under JOHESU and infact JOHESU and AHPA have advised its members to disregard the planned strike. I'm sure a visit to the government hospitals will convince you

It still baffles me why non-catholics or those against what Mary stands for in the Catholic church continuously prefer taking panadol for the "headache" that affects them in no way. Why not mind your own doctrines and let others practise theirs? What benefits do u get frm bashing the Catholic doctrines? Are you guys not tired? Its better if you channel your energy into something more useful simply because no amount of vile aired here will change anything..my 2cents

Now I do not know if the point I am about to make has been made by someone else but I'll go ahead and do so anyway. For those who believe that Mary had other kids after Jesus and point to the bible verse where Jesus was informed that his brothers and sisters were looking for him, now I ask..
1. In your various native dialects, what do u call ur cousins or nephews or nieces?? Check for the hebrew/greek/aramaic translations of the word cousins/nephew/nieces/half brothers etc

2. If Jesus really had blood siblings, why then did he deem it fit to hand over Mary his mother to the care of John the apostle?

Please I need constructive criticism of these bars. They aint mine tho"...

Song Of a Soul.....

Sunday Morning Vibes
i'm thankful that i'm still alive
should be in church /but/ my flesh decides to take five
take a break//
from tha weeks hustling// my Souls strugglin'
but tha Body needs comforting....
from tha punishing schedule// Soul's in need of fuel
wrestling with tha Body but it loses that duel
...biased mind....
its in cahoots with tha Body
tells my Soul "Go to church, but you aint taking Body"
my Body celebrates
grabs a pen n grabs some paper
puffs on a roach n tells my Soul; "i'll see you later"
now ma Soul's all shook up, in tha room corner
contemplating what he gon tell tha Father....
...as his vessel rebels,
he's like a snail with no shell
Like Alfred with No Bell
Pause
Alfred had NoBel.....
ok
Sou'ls in a good mood// i mean Soul's a good dude
he dont take it to Heart
cos He knowz Hearts Bodys Dude...
Hmmm
What to do/ What to do/ What would Jesus Do?
Turns to the Guardian Angel; "See what i'm going thru?"
Dude dont care, gonna be on Earth for like 90 years
Then its all me,
Will it be Fire or will be Cheers?
meehn!!! i'm outta here....
but he knows he cant;
Body's starting to pant
choking on d roach, eyes starting to slant...
Then Mind speaks....
"Yo Bud, you dont look so sweet, put down that spliff
go lie down for a minute"
Body obliges;
Soul rolls his eyes, scanning thru the Movie that is their Life....
"Lord, i'm falling"
it'll be Night Eternal with the Son of the Morning
n dis selfish dude dont care
he wont be tha one dats burning....
selfish twit// cares only for cash, ass, liquor n sleep
plus the words he pens occasionally on a sheet
Borderline atheist
Lord i'm losing my Patience...
"How do i cut off my nose n still save face?"
No time for riddles
Body's Gasping, clutching his middle
Soul returns home..n the Reaper puts away His sickle.....
The Angel Smiles.

Abeg is there a different video u guys are watching cause this song/video is really good. Why are people so insatiable? Is it until the song has a club beat and empty lyrics before u appreciate it? This is a lovely mid tempo song and not the usual noise we hear around. Flavour did a fantastic job with d hook n phyno didnt do bad too. Video quality is top notch too

Fair enough...By the way how come that's the only point from the entire view point of the doctor that is being argued or contested? You guys agree with the rest?

When did accomodation and feeding become part of tuition? By the way what I posted are the views of a fellow doc as I hv written earlier
[Quote author=drobadebayo]what's this nonsense about doctors trained free.When I still paid higher than majority of the departments througout grueling 6years(don't want to say all but its prolly all).My hostel accomodation was 15k higher,a tiny room 4 people were made to live in.People are still waiting for their scholarship funds years after graduating.Food was more expensive inside the teaching hospital compared to the permanent site where other students were.
Be It a private institution or government,yout tuition fee as a med student will always be higher than others.[/quote]

To be honest, it's hard to define that 'sliver-bullet' solution that solves this undoubtedly complex situation. So, yeah, I think we should take multiple views to it, and approach the problem with multiple ideas. No idea should be viewed as stupid, no matter the source. Old medical professors and administrators should be invited to offer ideas as much as recent medical graduates and medical students. We should invite ideas from the Ministry of Finance, as much as we invite ideas from the Ministry of Health. It's a huge problem that might not go away as quickly as we want. But, if we must work from first principles, let's accept a few facts: (1) The medical profession is heavily viewed by non-medicals as 'privileged and over-pampered.' For crying out loud, lawyers still pay school fees in Law School, after graduating, while doctors enjoy a 'good salary' as housemen. (2) A lot of Nigerians are in America today, completing a surgical residency or fellowship, and they probably enjoy a better credit rating (enough to take a huge mortgage or buy a Ferrari, immediately they complete their residency/fellowship) than their American-trained colleagues who are smarting from huge student loans. What if the Federal Govt signed a pact with ECFMG/ERAS barring Nigerians from taking the USMLEs, unless we pay a non-refundable fee to the Govt? Are we gonna prefer this to a sack of residents? (3) Nigeria is much more complicated than just the health sector: the president is thinking of the problems of oil bunkering, Boko Haram insurgency, and now Ebola coming ahead of elections. Haba! We all might have a few (or many) bad things to say about him (and his government), but he's a man...he's got a family...and he's got his followers. He most definitely can't have one sector of the workforce of this nation hold us to ransom! He needs to pay ASUU; he needs to pay ASUP. How do you want the 'less-privileged' professions to view him, if he over-pampers one sector of healthworkers? My dear Uzo, I don't care if this statement comes to haunt me in 10 years, when I try to become Minister of Health, or any other political position, but if I were the President, I would have sacked those residents a long time ago...starting with those in big cities like Lagos (including LUTH. Lol!), sef! At least, there's a lotta private practice in these cities to keep the residents. But, seriously, Uzo: we doctors need to know the pressures of being in government, and know that there are still worse things they (the govt) can do for us, than this 'small sack,' for instance, a major fine before registration to take USMLE, PLAB or AMC.

The following are the views of someone i used to know back in he days when we were students in LUTH (by the way i am not a medical doctor) and he goes by the name Dr. Luther Faseun

OK, so I know I'm gonna get a huge bashing for this, but here goes: Let's face it, asides from the 0.5% of Nigeria-trained residents that attended private medical schools, about 99.5% of these resident doctors basically went through medical school, tuition-free! To the best of my knowledge, no matter how much public universities collect for housing, exams, etc, the truth is that university lecturers and consultants are still paid by the Federal Government. We all must realize that: (1) There are no hidden costs, anywhere. Whatever is 'free' has a price being borne by someone else. (2) If the Federal Government, or earlier regimes of it, have invested heavily in the medical education of Nigerian doctors, whether they be residents or not, is it too much for the same Govt to ask for a little 'consideration' from us doctors? I do not think so. While I stand to be corrected on this point, the information I gather from the Federal Ministry of Health (FMoH) is that, while residents didn't work in July, they got paid full salaries with allowances. Now, before I go too far, on this very controversial issue, I must say this loud and clear: 'Residents are Indispensable!' The Federal Govt, the FMoH and the good people of Nigeria need residents. There's absolutely no doubt about that! So, for some of us, we never needed a genie to tell us the 'strike-sack' will NOT last; of course, it won't. It wasn't meant to! And, yes, I agree that a 'sack of residents' might not be the best decision, but, as a Manager, some rather Machiavellian actions need to be taken, sometimes, in order to prevent an employee feeling too powerful, and holding the organization to ransom. Some top organizations in the world, including big corporations in Lagos and Port-Harcourt have had to let go staff that were seemingly growing too powerful, even though these staff were quickly re-absorbed, after a seemingly 'chill' period. I will also like to state, very clearly, that this is neither a public support of the Govt and the FMoH, nor a social media condemnation of both, but it will be great if all of us can think about this clearly. We all claim that these 'old professors' had it good in their time: medical students were paid stipends; residents had better facilities to work with (including the One Year Abroad), etc. However, we fail to realize that we no longer live in the 1960s, when Nigeria only had a few medical schools; we also do not live in the oil-boom early 1970s, when there was so much wealth, matched with a moderate population. Nigeria has changed!! We need to accept that fact, and live with it. The population has exploded; medical students in Nigeria will prefer to be accommodated in the 'cosy' rooms of Guantanamo Bay, than the over-bedded rooms they currently have. Whether we like it or not, this population issue will always come up: we need to have policies and incentives to dramatically increase Nigeria's contraceptive prevalence rate (CPR), and soon! Like many of us reading this, I have met the Honourable Minister several times, at home and abroad, and while I do not expressly approve of all of his decisions, I know that there's only so much a man can take: he's not just a doctor, he's also a manager, and there's only so much a manager can take from an employee. The problems of Nigeria's healthcare system cut deeper than the failure of infrastructure, poor workers' salaries (and conditions of work), and others. And, yes, a 'sack of residents' may or may not have been the best decision. However, I dare to say that, at that point, and having been pushed to the wall, it was the 'right decision.

hmm

The following represent the views of someone i knew back in LUTH days when we were both students ( i am not a medical doctor) and he goes by the name Dr Fasehun

OK, so I know I'm gonna get a huge bashing for this, but here goes: Let's face it, asides from the 0.5% of Nigeria-trained residents that attended private medical schools, about 99.5% of these resident doctors basically went through medical school, tuition-free! To the best of my knowledge, no matter how much public universities collect for housing, exams, etc, the truth is that university lecturers and consultants are still paid by the Federal Government. We all must realize that: (1) There are no hidden costs, anywhere. Whatever is 'free' has a price being borne by someone else. (2) If the Federal Government, or earlier regimes of it, have invested heavily in the medical education of Nigerian doctors, whether they be residents or not, is it too much for the same Govt to ask for a little 'consideration' from us doctors? I do not think so. While I stand to be corrected on this point, the information I gather from the Federal Ministry of Health (FMoH) is that, while residents didn't work in July, they got paid full salaries with allowances. Now, before I go too far, on this very controversial issue, I must say this loud and clear: 'Residents are Indispensable!' The Federal Govt, the FMoH and the good people of Nigeria need residents. There's absolutely no doubt about that! So, for some of us, we never needed a genie to tell us the 'strike-sack' will NOT last; of course, it won't. It wasn't meant to! And, yes, I agree that a 'sack of residents' might not be the best decision, but, as a Manager, some rather Machiavellian actions need to be taken, sometimes, in order to prevent an employee feeling too powerful, and holding the organization to ransom. Some top organizations in the world, including big corporations in Lagos and Port-Harcourt have had to let go staff that were seemingly growing too powerful, even though these staff were quickly re-absorbed, after a seemingly 'chill' period. I will also like to state, very clearly, that this is neither a public support of the Govt and the FMoH, nor a social media condemnation of both, but it will be great if all of us can think about this clearly. We all claim that these 'old professors' had it good in their time: medical students were paid stipends; residents had better facilities to work with (including the One Year Abroad), etc. However, we fail to realize that we no longer live in the 1960s, when Nigeria only had a few medical schools; we also do not live in the oil-boom early 1970s, when there was so much wealth, matched with a moderate population. Nigeria has changed!! We need to accept that fact, and live with it. The population has exploded; medical students in Nigeria will prefer to be accommodated in the 'cosy' rooms of Guantanamo Bay, than the over-bedded rooms they currently have. Whether we like it or not, this population issue will always come up: we need to have policies and incentives to dramatically increase Nigeria's contraceptive prevalence rate (CPR), and soon! Like many of us reading this, I have met the Honourable Minister several times, at home and abroad, and while I do not expressly approve of all of his decisions, I know that there's only so much a man can take: he's not just a doctor, he's also a manager, and there's only so much a manager can take from an employee. The problems of Nigeria's healthcare system cut deeper than the failure of infrastructure, poor workers' salaries (and conditions of work), and others. And, yes, a 'sack of residents' may or may not have been the best decision. However, I dare to say that, at that point, and having been pushed to the wall, it was the 'right decision.'

i think Obembe got wind of the plan to sack the residents and thats why he tried ending the strike and subsequently resigning when it didnt work out...

The striking members of the Nigerian Medical Association (NMA) are set to end the industrial action embarked upon following disagreement with the federal government over alleged unpaid allowances.

Dr. Kayode Obembe, the president of the association gave the hint, yesterday, after a prolonged meeting with the Senate President, David Mark who waded into the muddle alongside the Delta State Governor, Dr. Emmanuel Uduaghan; Senator Tunde Ogbeha, as well as the Senior Special Assistant to the President on Public Affairs, Dr. Doyin Okupe.

The meeting, which commenced in the late hours of Tuesday, lasted till the early hours of Wednesday.

A statement by the Chief Press Secretary to the Senate President, Mr. Paul Mumeh, on Wednesday, gave hint of what transpired at the meeting.

The statement explained that Obembe however said he would not give the exact date and time that the strike would be called off until he reported back to his members.

The NMA boss was also quoted to have described the meeting with Mark as, “very useful and successful.

” He described as incorrect “the notion in some quarters that the striking doctors abandoned the nation in this trying times of major heath challenge on account of the outbreak of Ebola Virus Disease.”
He clarified that there was never a time the doctors refused to respond to the national emergency.

The NMA boss said, “Doctors were not unmindful of the health challenges faced by the nation at the moment but needed government to correct some abnormalities in the health sector to make it more effective and responsive to the health care needs of the citizens.

” He pledged to convene a stakeholders meeting soon as part of the process to put an end to the current industrial action. Nigerian doctors embarked on the nationwide strike on July 1 following their disagreement with the Federal Government over alleged unpaid allowances.

Mumeh’s statement added that Mark reminded the doctors of the implications of the strike to the health of the citizens and that there had been indications that government had complied with a reasonable number of the doctors’ demands.

The Senate President pleaded with the NMA to ask its members to return to work and promised to table their grievances before President Jonathan with a view to finding answers to them.

O Lawd!!!! This must be one of the most hilarious statements I have heard in a while!!! I swear that ur name fit u

MadCow1: Challenge me kwa...



You no dey fear abi!! You fit challenge your Papa for house?!


Take ya time young man.


And because you challenged me, I will not provide any facking proof top you.. Believe whatever you want.. Chukwu is Going nowhere.

Whether he was indicted or not is not the point. The point is must sentiments/ego/pride always dictate our appointments? When the late Dora was being rumoured to be the incoming Health Minister after her NAFDAC days were over, NMA blatantly refused accepting this claiming the post was their birthright. Now their own "son" unfortunately is proving to be their nemesis..In summary, let your track records do the talking!!!

Adorayble: Ewu,just shut ur dt gutter U call a mouth and please stop quoting me... U r just so jobless,eeeeeeew!

Lol

Adorayble: Keep laughing @ ur stupidity

If u can duly point out 1 stupid thing I have said in this entire thread then I will kindly keep quiet..and if u cant, then we know who the "title" belongs to..

LOL

Adorayble: Sorry for urself!

Adorayble: I don't av to tell U,I feel remorse... I owe U no apology,please get lost and neva resurface!

you dont have to tell me if u feel remorse or not and i certainly do not need ur apology...but like i said if you do not feel any remorse, i am sorry for you

Adorayble: Lwkmd oooooooooo,I just checked Ur profile pics,so na old mugu like U dey follow 22yrs old girl dey fight e-war? Big for notin cow,hehehehehehe

fight?? you call this an e-fight? U mislead people here and tell all sorts of childish lies and say i am fighting u? Naaa..I do not have time for such childish things. you may do and if u do not feel any sort of remorse for ur actions then i am well and truly sorry for you

Adorayble: U r an educated illiterate,goat!

Do u now realize how silly ur initial comments about ur oba dreaming and consulting his oracle are? Or how silly ur theory on the mechanism of action of salt on the virus is? People like u have ABSOLUTELY no right to castigate GEJ and call him clueless...LMAO

My God, can you imagine such rubbish? ROTFL...dreamt abt it? Consulted an oracle? LMAO..All these coming out of someone in the 21st century? How in the world does warm saline prevent the transmission of viral infections? What is the mechanism of action?
Its a shame really that people who are supposed to be knowledgeable (not necessarily in medical field) can think this way. How come nobody has suggested doing this to prevent or treat HIV? Spreading such heinous rumours will only increase susceptibility of people to the virus. Instead of doing the needful, they follow such unintelligent advice
And for people saying you have nothing to lose by trying it, why not try it when you have malaria or typhoid or even headache/ Afterall you have nothing to lose!!!

Adorayble: Nt @ all darling... I heard d Oba of Benin ordered every1 to do it... So,he must have dreamt abt it or consulted an oracle... See my friend wen sm1 has a vag.inal infection or has a cut during childbirth,medical personnels advice her to do sitz bath with salt dt tells U dt Salt can fight against some infections. The salt on Ur skin can serve as a barrier wen sm1 wif Ebola rubs his skin against unifected person,its a simple logic! Since d act isn't harmful why nt do it? Had it been dey asked every1 to drink bleach hell no,ah for nor drink nah! Okay,see yday dt dere ws no movement arount Ikorodu area,becos of burial rites why pple nor come out of their house? So,U see?

It's been over 3 weeks now since doctors in Nigeria embarked on a strike and to attempt to say how saddening this is, would be me searching endlessly for these words that can capture my true feelings. I was reading about the current NMA strike in Nigeria and my mind could not help putting together the implications.
I have a lot of doctors working in Nigeria in my networks, hence I was opportuned to read some of their comments that got me really disturbed. When I tried to read some of the ones from the nurses, the issues really stood out. The worst part is the fact that some of the demands by both parties (NMA and JOHESU) have a lot of discrepancies that has continued (and will continue) to cause conflicts of interests. However, I noticed this huge gap that needed to be bridged and I decided to put this piece together.

It might seem biased because I pointed out a lot of truths that most people will want to neglect because they are on the other side of this whole argument but I decided to direct this one to the doctors most especially because they are the ones on strike. When it comes to facing issues, it is always best to face the truths and aim to tackle the real problems. I would like to go ahead and join the bandwagon and talk about the trending opinions, but I decided to take a closer look at the real situations in the hospital settings in Nigeria while attempting to step into the shoes of the nurses and try to relate with their pains and I think it would be a good starting point to address some of these issues.

The medical profession is a selfless profession and that is why you go through all the rigors of transforming you into that kind of person that can work under extreme pressure with the long curricula of work and years of Education. It is not to make you feel like the superior one in the society by going through 6 years of education. It was deliberate to transform you into the kind of person believed a medical doctor should be (patient, selfless, well informed, versatile, equipped, etc). If that is not what you are up for, then you definitely missed it with your career choice. Again, I repeat, the years of education was not to make you feel like a "'god". That is far from the aim.
Last time I checked, everyone in the health sector is important. Pharmacists in Nigeria also go through long years of education for their basic first degree, so trying to imply you are better than every other person by going to school for 6 years is a very wrong way to think. Every profession matters and the trainings are all tailored to what is required of the profession and this is what most doctors in Nigeria miss. You are not there for the status, you are there to save lives. If you want a profession that is based on status and hierarchy, there are so many in the university that can fit that scope perfectly. There are also masters concentrations and specializations to fit your specific dreams. There is nothing wrong with identifying your passion, everybody must not follow the same route. But if it is within medicine, be sure it is in line with what medicine is meant for. Find a passion and stick to it. It is a multi disciplinary field. Every discipline matters. Trying to show the world that you are better by striking doesn't prove anything. If the nurses strike today, their impact will be felt too. It doesn't mean they are better, It just means that every system needs every discipline working in their different capacities to make for a functioning one. Even if taxi drivers in town decided to strike, their impact would be felt too.

For most health professionals in Nigeria, the passion is far from what health care is about. For instance, the belief that medicine is a pedestal to reach this perceived exalted position portrays the thought process of a narrow minded person. I think the oath of office should be interpreted well for all health care professionals in Nigeria and everyone should be made to understand exactly what their profession entails and what they are committing themselves to.
I am not saying it is completely inevitable to go on strikes, I am just saying it shouldn't be every now and then, especially not for very trivial issues.
How will having consultant nurses deter the progress of medicine in Nigeria? If I remember well, nurses provide home care services and are usually the first point of call sometimes e.g. during deliveries. As far as health care in most countries is concerned, nurses play a vital role. Undermining them in anyway is very wrong.

Also, Doctors should understand that becoming a CMD should not be seen as a right or a priority for anyone. If you end up as one, count it a rare privilege and concentrate on the things that matter. At the end of the day, truth be told, not every doctor will have the climax of their career as a CMD, so again concentrate on asking yourself why you really chose medicine.
I would like to keep this within context but it is extremely worthy to note how external factors fuel this menace. It has already been highlighted that an average Nigerian thrives by finding those titles that can suggest that he is better than his peers. You see people trading their values in exchange for chieftaincy titles and other seemingly high class positions in the society and this is very common in Nigeria. It is ridiculous when you see the tussle for power make its way to a field where selflessness is key. We need to try and rise over this way of thinking, if we must succeed.

We need every discipline to try to embrace, respect and motivate each other to achieve desired goals.
Every time health care professionals strike, lives are lost. We take take several steps back with our health targets. Shouldn't this be a concern for anyone that swore to an oath to save lives? Most of the problems the whole world is trying to tackle today to achieve the millennium development goals are concentrated in Africa. We should be concentrating as a country to elicit the necessary efforts needed to push some desired changes, rather, we find things getting worsened each day by problems caused by the same people that should be trying to find remedies. I will continue to say that we are well blessed in Africa. We do not have natural disasters. What we have instead are groups of people deliberately killing others. How can that even make anyone sleep well at night? How can doctors sleep well knowing that the lives they promised to save are being wasted everyday? I think because we do not pay a lot of attention to research and statistics, we fail to compare the different mortality rates of so many countries with that of Nigeria to really understand how far behind we are.

What can we do? Some of us understand that if anything can be achieved, we have to put sentiments aside and continue to work relentlessly at achieving what we consider best for us.
I would love to see health care professionals form allied groups and see how they can forge ahead to tackle the huge setbacks within their capacities and not wake up everyday to stories of how one group or the other is seeking ways to push their selfish interests, leaving innocent lives to suffer for it. This is so far from what you'd expect from people that are supposed to be advocating against this sort of attitude towards life in the first place.

I checked some of the rants and threads where the conversations were raised and some of the comments by some doctors weakened me. Some of them said things like "we are the gods, if you want to come dine with us, get an MBBS". I was just imagining how this really played out in the hospital environment. How can you have a real working relationship like this? It is just something that if you trigger this feeling in people, you just have to be ready for the consequences. How do you work in harmony to treat a patient when there are these kind of superiority and inferiority complexes hovering around? In my opinion, that is exactly what is happening now in the Nigerian Health Sector. I see people who are just tired of being treated scornfully fighting for something that can make them feel just as important. If everyone aims to get an MBBS, the system will collapse. If people feel terrible working in any of the roles, then they will simply be a scarcity in those roles. It doesn't matter the parties involved here. Doctors and nurses alike, they all want the same things at the end of the day - dignity of labour. Nobody wants to feel humiliated, marginalized or cheated. This is something simple communication can resolve.

Finally, I think the authorities should spell out the criteria for these positions and whoever meets those criteria should be allowed to serve. That I believe is the job of the policy makers in Nigeria. If you asked for a personal opinion, I would say as "superior" as you think the MBBS is, sometimes the MBBS is usually not enough. Note! six years of education provides you with clinical know how, key word clinical! Some capacities would require more than clinical expertise. Having an MBBS might not automatically make you the best man for the job, this is what we should all understand. That should not disrupt what you can do within your capacity at the end of the day, except you just do not understand what your career is about. If the requirements for any position highlight the need for an MBBS, then that should be well communicated to all the parties involved. If it does not, then there should be other things that are being looked out for and those should be promoted as the standing rule. All these should be made transparent for everyone to understand the required terms to avoid these recurrent strikes in future.

I am not here to talk about hierarchy and politics, because this is not what this is about. I am more concerned with the disorganization that has continued to lead to the loss of lives everyday in Nigeria.
For as long as we continue to push the sentiments and ignore what matters, we will continue to run around in circles and we will continue to pay with people's lives. Now that should be a major concern for everyone.
But let's not forget, you are supposed to save lives and not find the slightest opportunity to destroy them.

Have a fruitful week lovelies
Whatever you do, make sure you touch someone's life positively and not otherwise

Love always
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This is what the requirement reads "Although you do not specifically need to hold a bachelor’s degree in environmental science to apply, you should hold either a bachelor of science degree, or a similar tertiary qualification, where there is an emphasis on one of the following disciplines: biology, chemistry, physics, mathematics, ecology, climate and atmospheric sciences, marine science, geology, geography, environmental studies, environmental engineering, agriculture and/or natural resource management. Alternatively, a Bachelors degree in any discipline, in addition to successfully completing 3 units of undergraduate science (biology, chemistry, geography) at the University of Sydney with a credit average."

It simply means u need a science inclined undergraduate qualification (preferably an undergrad qualification in environmental science) to apply for the course. Your undergrad degree must be strongly related to one of the above listed disciplines. The second part of the requirement means that you can apply with a bachelors degree in ANY discipline BUT if granted admission, you will have to undertake undergraduate prerequisite courses in biology chemistry n geography in the school before you can graduate. This automatically entails more money as cost of these courses will be added to the tuition fee
I dont really contribute much on the thread but IF EXTREMELY URGENT and u feel i may be of help

you mean accomodation wise i guess...I would have loved to help out but i am staying with a relation who is married with kids and do not want to "pass my boundary" by looking to bring someone else in. I can however try to get contact info for shared apartments at least for you to stay for a while and then u can be on the lookout for another if you dont like it. Meanwhile you can also browse, google and check up on accomodation close to where you are going to in sydney. You can check for backpackers accomodation. I think its relatively cheaper than other forms of accommodation.

Zenkel: Please house, I'm in serious need of help. I will be going to Sydney this month but don't have anyone there.

Are you sure it is environmental management and not environmental science? cause i cant seem to find environmental management..Can u kindly post the link you have so that i can go through..Besides, concerning the 3rd class. to be frank with you I do not think they do but you can only find out and be sure if you submit your transcripts for assessment if you meet the requirements

Well i am studying at the university of sydney but not in environmental management...I am in pharmacy..Any problem(s)?

lovelydamsel: Hi guys please who is studying in university of sydney;environmental management precisely.will be grateful if you can help thank you

Its a pity things have taken such a turn in our health system. Now permit me to address some issues here. I am a proud pharmacist who trained and schooled in LUTH and if u have ever been to college of medicine idi-araba, u'll know how close ALL students (medicine, pharmacy, physiotheraphy etc ) are during and after school years which gives me a good insight into the different facets of the health workers. Now concerning the consultancy issue, let me state without bias or prejudice that it is wrong and uncalled for for the doctors to oppose that for several reasons some of which i will highlight using the angle of the pharmacist as a prime example
Firstly, the consultancy status of a pharmacist is an international practice in several countries of the world like the USA, UK and Australia. You may begin to wonder what the job of this consultant pharmacist is so i'll try to explain. Now a consultant medical doctor is a specialist in his/her field. The human body is very complex and cannot be understood completely by any one person hence the need to "divide" the its knowledge to lesser parts so that each part or area can be more wholly and completely understood hence you have consultant cardiologist (heart), consultant dermatologist (skin), consultant neurologist (brain) etc. Of course more often than not each of these consultants require drugs for his/her patients and we all know that the pharmacist is the expert in drugs. Now there are thousands of drugs worldwide and the pharmacist being the expert is supposed to know MOST if not ALL about these drugs- side effects and adverse reactions, dosages, contraindications, pharmacodynamic and -kinetic interactions, etc. Is it realistically possible to know all these? the answer is NO. just the same way it is impossible for anyone man to understand the human body. So it is only logical that drugs required for the various aspects of medicine are broken down into smaller subunits to enable a firmer and wholistic grasp of the total knowledge of these drugs hence you have a consultant cardiology pharmacist whose duty is to work with a consultant cardiologist in nurturing the patient back to health especially as the focus of the work of the modern day pharmacist moves from the drug to the patient (pharmaceutical care). Being a pharmacist is much more than dispensing drugs to a patient. That is how pharmacy started but fortunately has evolved to a patient centred approach. This is actually what some doctors refuse to accept. I used to work at the University College Hospital (technically i still do). and I know the value of a well trained and excellent pharmacist to the doctors. There have been many instances where doctor-pharmacist interactions have averted some situations which may otherwise have been fatal.
I would also like to point out that the doctor in my opinion is the head of the medical team and primarily responsible for the patient. This is not to demean other health personnel and should not be seen as an avenue to look down on the others.
Secondly, contrary to what some people here are saying about doctors going through all the long years in school and others going through less years yet clamouring for certain rights, its not entirely true. A newly qualified pharmacist spends "just a year less" than a newly qualified doctor and infact pharmacy students in UNIBEN spend exactly the length of time doctors spend in medical school. Granted that to be a consultant entails a minimum of 6 extra years, a consultant pharmacist spends a minimum of 4-5yrs to attain consultancy level after undergoing several courses in attainment of fellowship status of the West African postgraduate college of pharmacists. While not taking anything away from the doctors, it also shows that the gap in years spent is not as wide as stipulated.
lastly concerning the issue of CMD, i have always been of the opinion that the best and most qualified CMD would be a medical doctor WITH ADMINISTRATIVE qualifications. This is to say if a doctor has these and other health workers have these too and all other "factors are constant", a doctor will be the best choice. However if other health workers have these qualifications and the doctor does not have ADMINISTRATIVE qualifications, then the CMD post should be given to the former. My two cents

lawland: Good job everyone.. Just passing...

Hey boss...hwz sydney??am sure u r enjoying it...will be coming over 1st week in feb (my flight's on feb 1st)..would like to ask certain Qs pertaining to cost of items like samsung tabs and wristwatches..do u advise I buy them here 1st b4 coming over or I shld keep d money and get them in sydney? Also hwz d weather right now in sydney?