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Henry120: Aljazeera airing a documentary on the 1973 yum kipor war. Egypt and syria VS isreal. Tune in and watch. Documentary ends 10pm nigerian time.

I saw the documentary last week.
Those Egyptians really put up a good fight against Israel. And the Syrians, the mistake of their general to delay their advance made them lost their recaptured territory.
very interesting documentary. Part 2 wil be 9pm today or thursday.

Army kills 30 suspected Boko Haram members

MAIDUGURI—Troops from 7 Division, Nigerian Army in
Maiduguri, yesterday, launched separate preemptive
attacks on Boko Haram enclaves at Ajigi, Kafa and Izza
villages of Bama and Damboa council areas of the state,
killing no fewer than 30 suspected members, including
an Amir (leader) of the sect.
Also killed were unspecified members of the group at
Izza village in Bama town just as five Hilux vehicles
mounted with anti-air craft guns and one 18-seater bus
with foodstuff belonging to the terrorists were
destroyed.
A statement by the military spokesman in Maiduguri,
Captain Aliyu Danja, yesterday, said the operation
involved air strikes and ground attacks.
Danja also said that the pre-emptive attack followed
intelligence reports about plans by the insurgents to
attack Bama and other towns in the state.
The statement read: “Our troops launched separate
attacks on Boko Haram enclaves in different parts of
BornoState, where we killed 30 of them in Ajigi and Kafa
villages of Damboa Local Government Area.
“Those killed were suspected to be the group of
terrorists that fled Damboa town, following an encounter
with the security forces last Sunday.
“Also, a pre-emptive attack on Boko Haram
concentration at Izza town in BornoState, Sunday
afternoon, led to the killing of an unspecified number of
the sect’s members.
http://www.vanguardngr.com/2013/10/army-kills-30-suspected-boko-haram-members/

zetdee: Not another retarde.d simulation.

That's cos you read the article with a reetarded point of view.

Thiza: @augustus no country should impose its own rules unless invited. Regarding Kenya they should have asked for assistance and definetly South Africa would have positively responded but as a pride many African countries shun any African assistance especially South African. The South African Special Task Force would have done a perfect job in support of the Kenyan security forces but the pride forced the Kenyan to asked for Israelis support which is not wrong at all.

Nigerian should buying South African military hardware buy not with their pride.....Africans would never be seen supporting other Africans especially when matters of pride is concern....Hence Africans would rather be seen with other nationalities than blacks. The time Africans like South Africa its only when they failed to obtain a visa to travel oversees and then use South Africa as an alternative.

Hence Africans think South Africa is a dumping ground for the unemployed and illiterate Africans who believes they are better than South Africans and yet survive on South African hospitality. AFRICANS SUFFER FROM MASSIVE INFERIORITY COMPLEX BUT ONLY REALISE THAT THEY ARE BETTER WHEN IN SOUTH AFRICA AGAINST SOUTH AFRICANS.

whats this one saying

Dibiachukwu: LOL. PEOPLE DELUDING THEMSELVES

i think you are the one that's deluded. get over it son... even ojukwu did before he died.

in the mean time, you can move to mali until your Biafra fantacy becomes reality since you don't want to be a Nigerian. abi na by force

and before you start. i am a confirm ibo boy and i think you are still stuck in the 60s.. probably lost in time

Henry120: I mean, who uses RPG in a confined space?

KDF

NaijaPikinGidi: So sad that rather than protect public property the Kenyan Defence Force soldiers had field days looting the deserted Shops at the Westgate Mall. Not a good way to empathise with the victims of the attack!

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Kenya Mall Vendors Suspect Looting

Shops plundered during terrorist attack
By Charlotte Alter @charlottealter | Sept. 30, 2013

Read more: http://world.time.com/2013/09/30/kenya-mall-vendors-suspect-looting/

[img]http://timeglobalspin.files./2013/09/wp2013-09-24t093407z_1415271875_gm1e99o1.jpg?w=360&h=240&crop=1[/img]

Shopkeepers in Nairobi’s Westgate Mall returned to their stores Monday after the bloody four-day militant siege to find their inventories plundered and display cases smashed, but they’re not blaming the gunmen who killed dozens before finally being subdued. Instead, many vendors think it was the Kenyan Security Forces who looted their stores, the Associated Press reports.

Kenyan Security Forces cordoned off the mall as soon as the attack began on Sept. 21, and only security officials and government personnel were allowed in and out of the mall. Since the attack, alcohol has disappeared from restaurants, jewelry cases have been smashed, and cash registers were emptied.

This isn’t the first time poorly-paid Kenyan Security Forces have been accused of stealing from property they’re supposed to protect. There were also reports of looting during the major fire at Nairobi’s main airport in August.

Interior Minister Joseph Ole Lenku confirmed the thefts in a news conference on Sunday. “Those responsible for looting will be prosecuted,” Lenku said. But storekeepers will have to report their losses to the Kenyan Security Forces.

no wonder the attackers got away .

from the look at the way the operation was conducted, it exposed a very major weakness of KDF capabilities in "urban warfare" which is a very critical skill in 21st century modern combat requirements (i trust our boys for that one )

with due respect to those who lost their lives and (stolen ) properties, al-shaaab won this one on their home soil for that matter.

It really pains me that Nigeria continues in the path of self hate and blind criticism that we never see anything positive about our society. We always wait for foreigners to do the job for us.

I can't remember any government (not even the old and shameless gorrila we call "baba") that have recieved the kinds of accolades GEJ has recieved from westerners (the inventors of criticism itslef) and other well respected countries.

We need to change ourselves if we want to see changes in our society. Datz all

Mike..ZA:
First 1. Boko Haram is not in an conventional war against Nigeria. Second. 3. That would be the case if Nigeria engages SA. Third 3. In a conventional warfare counter battery fire will destroy your artillery pieces. Forth 4. All your howitzers remain out ranged by the G7 105mm howitzer. Firth 5. What is your army using to select target?

dude, lemme make it clear to you. Even if your artillery guns are placed 80km away from us, our military satelites will still pick your locations, special forces will do a recce and pin your artillery locations for return and precise hit, we position our artillery and motars, and the rest is history (while you'll just be wastin shells from 70km away since even your binoculars will not see such a distance)

Mike..ZA:
Have we seen any USA base overran by militants? NO. Is the USA army getting whopped by militants at home? No. Nigeria is losing the war against BH.

not overun but constantly being attacked. And so far they did not manage to kill all insurgents in all the attacks.

Who told you any Nigerian military base was overran?

agaugust: yes they did, i told you attack by kenyan army was the best decision to take against the terrorists in the shopping mall.

you navy chef/cook that called my tactics wrong gun blazing assault, but kenya dis more than blazing guns only, they aere RPG rocket blazing !

see your own foolishness....your navy unifrom remains hanging on my mango tree top

plastic toy soldier

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but guy, the RPG too much na. That's what flash bang or stun grenades are for.

Mike..ZA:
It looks like the hostage takers were offering a stiff resistance. It doesn't matter weather they had 300 troops,if those troops are not trained in hostage rescue. That's just useless cause they will shot up all the hostages and sh**t

so blowing up the building to collapse is the best way to free the hostages? What i meant by they had more than 300 is that they were enough to secure all floors to seal any exit as they advance to clear all shops with caution.

It's obvious KDF and their intelligence unit are not trained in FIBUA and hostage rescue techniques.

andrewza: Seems KDF blew up part of the shoping mall.

yeah they did. and i don't think it was necessary. i mean there were more than 300 troops on ground aside from other security personnel.

Mike..ZA:
I hope you know SANDF mechanised units are backed by artillery.

and you think the Nigerian side will be backed by stone throwing soldiers?

Mike..ZA:
In mechanised warfare Nigerian forces would perish. If they met South Africans in the bushes of Africa. I hope you know SANDF mechanised units are backed by artillery.

guy stop giving prophesies from your dreams and start talking strategic.

Mike..ZA:
Nigerian army can totally be stopped not slowed down. STOPPED!!!!

if you can just explain how, i'll gladly call you boss.

Mike..ZA:
Tank squadrons drove to the bush and kicked some butt.

more proof that you don't know what you are talking about

is it clowning season already

Fighter Pilot: Only a s.tupid commander who does not know how to lead his armies can end up with his men killed by being shot on friendly fire by own's airforce. I say again, soldiers fight on groups (sections, platoons, company or battalion) under the command, that's how teamwork works and no any soldier is allowed to leave the group and fight on his own. That way will help the commander to know at all times where his men are, so that when he calls for an ariel support will be able to communicate the position of the enemy with the Airforce without placing the lives of his men in danger. There is no any difficulty using the airstrikes in jungles, the main reason is to disorganise the enemy and make it difficult for them to fight in groups (order). You know well that even in football whenever there is no teamwork the whole team will lose.

Any commander should not hesitate too long to call for ariel support in time before his men are overwhelmed by the enemies' firepower, because that will make it difficult for fighter pilot since his men will be scattered everywhere in disarray.

boss, you seem to confuse jungle warfare to bush war.

Come to Niger delta jungle creeks. You'll praise Nigerian army for their efforts in fighting those creek militants.

the legend: Really used to like this dude, especially his debut album. But these days the guy done kolo and bone dry....talk crap too.

you need to listen to his new album if you trully know hiphop.

andrewza: only a crapy pilot will bomb his own men

guy, @augugust is right. aerial bombing in jungles are very difficult and you might end up killing your own.

here are some quotes from an analysis about US air campaigns in Vietnamese jungles.

"For pilots, the most frustrating aspect of the bombing restrictions was that most North Vietnamese fighter bases and surface‐to‐air missile (SAM) batteries fell within restricted areas"

"He contends that, in the final analysis, “it was the Air Force and Navy's very own leaders that failed to develop a strategy appropriate for the war at hand.” Could any air strategy, though, have won the conflict? Joint Chiefs of Staff chairman Maxwell Taylor's response in 1975 was an unequivocal no. According to him, “we didn't know our ally. Secondly, we knew even less about the enemy. And the last, most inexcusable of our mistakes, was not knowing our own people.”
http://www.answers.com/topic/u-s-air-operations-in-the-vietnam-war

andrewza: Let's look at the DRC. The east is moutan and jungel yet air support was a great force muitpliler to be used to remove M23 from the 3 surronding peaks. Air suport in moutan and juggel terrian works.

so why is the US bombing innocent people in afghanistan mountainous regions? air support is difficult in mountainous and jungle terrains.

remember during vietnam, US bombed their own several times in those jungles.

why do you think France needed the help of chadians to fight in mountainous terrains of mali? they would have used air power like they used to push back the rebels in open spaces but they went in commando style and even though chadians are very god in mountain warfare, they still suffered heavy casualties fighting those who knew the place better.

guy, the brief battle in DRC was fought on hills and bushes, not mountains and jungles. there's a difference

the most powerful military in africa and second after israel in the middle east

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWZnu5GYNFs

andrewza: The best thing for a army is when a unconvivsniol enemy tries to fight a convinsniol war. Aske siri lanker. For years the tamil tigers where a thorn. The tigers became so strong they formed a mini country. And then got there ass handed to them. The somliy miltants tried the same thing, they tried to fight ethyopia has equals. But a toyat with a ZSU23 is no match for a MBT.

BH is not a threat to nigeria in the same way M23 is to the DRC or seleka to CAR. BH can not match the nigerians in a open field battel so will never win. How ever the fact that BH can so freely operate in nigeria is insulting. I mean the battel were those 16 nigerians died if I am to beilve agusta was a battel where the army was out numberd 3 to 1, the enemy had better mobilty since they had vechiles, had better fire power and both had the same level of air support aka none. And in your own country. It is insulting.

this is why you remain the only south african i respect here. no let your head swell o

about that operation, you need to understand that there are very difficult terrains in these northern parts that is no use for aerial bombardment if you really want to hit your enemies and not just scare them aware. just like we have very dangerous creeks/wet jungles in the south

flash back to when US bombed tora bora in afghanistan for months without killing one militant. later they realized that their bombs were useless to such mountainous region and yet couldn't send combat troops to fight in these mountains. But it was too late before they realized the aerial bombardments had only given osama more time to relocate and regroup.

this is one of the reasons US failed woefully in afghanistan. the terrain remains too difficult for them.

Northern Nigeria has many of such terrains and the battle where Nigeria lost 16 soldiers was fought in one of those terrains (caves and mountainous forests). that's why it's seen as a victory for us, considering that they were totally outnumbered 1:3 and half of the terrorists were killed (in a difficult terrain the terorists understood better). if you are truly a soldier you would understand.

even the US knows how dangerous these northern terrains are. it reminds them of tora bora. that's why they doubt Nigerian military will be able to do the job. but we keep surprising them

that should tell you a lot.

Mike..ZA:
The FSA won't move heavy armour because the Syrian air force has the upper hand and will easily bombard or destroy those(tanks and vehicles). Nigeria's air force is not that powerful,soldiers die in their own country with air force jets around. The FSA is bringing the enemy into the cities fight them in bridging(blasting or making holes) building walls kind of warfare. But if the air force was weak "technicals" and armoured cars like in Libya would be used. It would be a war of capturing town after town,with troops carried easily to the front lines by vehicles without the fear of aerial bombing. The war would be swift and end quickly.

this ignorant little man doesn't know that syria bombed those rebels with old trainer/light attack jets. and he thinks it makes them powerful

guy, stay off sniffing fuel. it's messing with your already fried chicken brain

Mike..ZA:
It depends on a country. Nigeria's divisions can easily be exploited against it. Besides we must consider the fact that militants from other countries are now in that country. Mostly veterans of the Libyan civil war,If Nigeria will get to any armour war against this militants. Many fronts will be opened in the country. Nigeria might even get to war with its neighbours,because Nigeria might think some countries are reluctant to deal with the terrorists running supplies through their boarders. Which is what they're doing now. Boko Haram is the result of politicians failing the North. Religion is just a tool used to mobilise or recruit men by clever BH leaders.

this dude is high on fuel

Thiza: @AGAUGUSTUS EMBARRASED AGAIN

HERE IS THE VIDEO
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-24274818

mr copy and paste that can't differentiate a still picture from a video. what a pity

Mike..ZA:
Boko Haram is getting armoured fighting vehicles. I won't be surprised if they get main battle tanks soon and start pushing towards your capital,and a civil war blows up. Then militants will arise from the South,screaming "LONG LIVE Biafra!!!!!!!! OUR FATHERLAND". You will delete your account on this forum and become a refugee in Ghana. Kwame.tut will kick your as.s everyday!!!! GET IT??!!!!!!

damn!!! i have to smoke your joint. it's getting your mind twisted

Mike..ZA:
We are talking about Nigeria here. I said your whole army can be stopped by minefields.

you are a complete novice that sees too many movies. which army cannot be slowed down by minefields? guy talk well na.

Mike..ZA:
You wanna know how the bush war was fought?. South Africa smashed the enemy with amazing tactics and awesome weapons. They were outclassed from parabats,special forces,motorised and mechanised units.

guy, you need to get your head checked. so they js dropped tanks in the bush and voila, the war is over? you sick

Mike..ZA:
He can't differentiate between a war and a battle.

you are a donkey. Can you tell me how a war is fought? Especially how the bush war was fought. If you can differentiate

Fighter Pilot: Hehehehe! What do you say about those who were held captive as prisoners of war by South African special forces. Would you also want to tell me that they were not at war? Chief your knowledge about the bush war is as limited as that of @Agaugust. I wrote exams about that war from school and even towards my studies at military academy. Russia was secret involved and did not want the world to know about their secret until they were exposed, no wonder they have destroyed all the documents that linked them to that war.

you must have failed that exam. no wonder you are just a guard soldier

so the russian president emailed you that they burnt all documents of their involvement in the war? why is it was still evident everywhere?

i'm telling you that if russia had fought you, SA will be a wasteland by now. especially with your continuous use of chemical weapons then.

andrewza: Yes

wow. i haven't seen any black SADF before. it must have been very tough for them