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CraigB: Fits perfectly into everything you've posted in the last two hours. You've been reduced to:

1. Pink cards; and

2. Angry "throw outs".

Sucks being you.

CraigB: Quite right.

As can be observed from your posts

Good to see that being ignored has caused you to reflect on your behavior.

*Ignore button back on and the weekend begins.

chris365: i bet you would have written a whole page if i had made a grammatical blunder.

CraigB: 1, 2, 3 grammatical errors. No need to comment... Sense doesn't dwell here anyway.

zetdee: Former Nigerian aviation minister - Nigeria to break or not to break.

By Femi Fani-Kayode

*Fani Kayode was a Minister of Aviation

CraigB: *Looks around. Finds nothing worth his while. Gets back to work.

Fighter Pilot: No chief your intelligence is already compromised, t[b]he insugents intelligence has an upper hands over your army[/b]. It is only a fool who would ever rate such an intelligent system to be the best in Africa.

CraigB: And given that you don't have the equipment that you need, what makes you believe you'll have what you need in an all-out war?

CraigB: The moment you put on an "intelligence cap", you'll get all the answers you need. if i can ever give it

Henry120: you had to employ the services of former navy seals to help you out with your poaching problem. That doesn't say to me that you have a hold on the situation.

Listen, terrorists are members of the populace. He can pass a military check-point 100 times and not a single officer would know what his sinister motives are. He only needs to pick his AK-47 and like I had earlier said, throw the nation in mourning. It's like fighting ghosts.

CraigB: Can you see how I will ignore the rest of your post? Now that's how you deal with a rant.

CraigB: It's your rants that are being ignored - Not you

CraigB: If it was ranting, you would have ignored it.

I know better.

Can you see how I will ignore the rest of your post? Now that's how you deal with a rant.

CraigB: There are two sides to every story. Some would say three, even. Extremism doesn't arise out of a vacuum. It's not as if the North isn't neglected. It's not as if it's not one of the poorest and least educated regions in the whole wide world. Whose fault is that? The Naai-gerian nation brought Boko Haram upon itself because it lacks foresight.

Henry120: Your SAPS are not good enough. Terrorism would consume them. Indonesia has an economy 4.5 times larger than RSA and a military 20 times better, yet they had to seek help from the americans to deal with the problem. If nigeria cannot defeat terrorism, then no nation in africa can.

Fighter Pilot: Even your most trusted beegle has confirmed that was Shekau's video. The one before it was an imposter and the last month one was a real one.

Fighter Pilot: SHEKAU is raised back from the dead. Lol!!

Last month he came back alive in his video and dared America as he already dismissed Nigerian Army as small boys.

http://thenationonlineng.net/new/boko-haram-leader-shekau-dares-obama-in-video/

agaugust: seleka kill ratio 160:1 is a big lie...or else Guinness book of records would have recognized it

america has only 2% muslim, nigeria has about 45% muslims....and northern nigeria where boko haram operates is 95% muslim.

america does not have a muslim population of 95% in any state to create an islamic terrorist zone.

please use the right side of your brain if the left side is not functioning

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Thiza: @augustus Haraaaaaaaaaa is this your military capabilities Nigerian navy has 19 admirals and 34 commodores, but can only put to sea nine main vessels. The air force remains with just a handful of operational aircraft, after 15 years of heavy budgetary allocations to the armed forces under military rule.

Thiza: WHERE IS INDIGENOUS NIGERIAN MIND INTO THESE STORIES? ITS TRUE THAT DESPERATE SITUATION OF LIES NEEDS DESPERATE MEASURES TO TRY TO BE SEEN AS A GIANT....AGAIN INTIL NIGERA CONSTRUCT ITS OWN ELECTRICITY SUB STATION AND PRODUCE ELECTRICITY WITHOUT ANY OUTSISDE ASSISTANCE....TO SOUTH AFRICANS NIGERIA WOULD REMAIM A DWARF THAT BELIEVE ITS A GIANT

agaugust:

[size=16pt] all south african DENEL and ASMCOR weapons manufacturing technologies were imported, directly transferred and copied from Europe, America, and Israel for a long period of time from 1960s till 2013.....FACT !!!![/size][/b]


nigeria is building its missile alone, fact !!! the south african RSA-3 ballistic missile was built by Israel, a copy of Israel's Jericho missile, fact !!!


http://www.nti.org/country-profiles/south-africa/delivery-systems/


Last updated: February, 2013

"South Africa has decades of experience developing missile and rocket technology, but it dismantled its covert ballistic missile program after announcing the end of its secret nuclear weapons program in the early 1990s. Since the mid-1960s, South Africa has developed short-range tactical missiles;

in the 1970s and 1980s, South Africa, with help from Israel, began developing a longer range ballistic missile as a possible delivery vehicle for nuclear warheads. A July 1989 test launch of what South Africa called a "booster rocket" confirmed Pretoria had a ballistic missile program similar to Israel's Jericho missile series,

and precipitated intense scrutiny from the United Nations and the United States. South Africa had dismantled its nuclear weapons program by the early 1990s, and subsequently halted its long-range missile program. It is now a member of the Missile Technology Control Regime (MTCR), and the Hague Code of Conduct against Ballistic Missile Proliferation (HCOC).[2]

Capabilities

Design Characteristics Tables

Ballistic Missiles and Rockets
South Africa developed the Republic of South Africa (RSA) missile series, based largely on Israeli missiles. Armscor, the principal developer of Pretoria's nuclear weapons system, designed gun-type nuclear devices that could be delivered by aircraft, but it had plans to upgrade the weapons for possible delivery by RSA missiles.

Pretoria developed four missiles whose design characteristics are shown in Table 1. The RSA-1 was an intermediate-range, single-stage ballistic missile with a 1,100km trajectory coupled with a standard warhead mass of 1,500kg. The RSA-2 followed, with a range of 1,900km and the ability to carry a 1,500kg standard warhead mass.The RSA-3, based on the Israeli Jericho missile/Shavit launch vehicle, was a three-stage solid-fueled orbital launch vehicle. While Pretoria wanted to develop a long-range ballistic missile for warhead delivery, it did not have the technology at the time to produce a lightweight warhead for missile delivery.The RSA-3's first stage had control or steering vanes in the exhaust and at the base of the vehicle. A guidance/ orientation/spin-up bus for the third stage and payload, totaling a mass of 583kg, topped the second stage. After second stage burnout, the spin-stabilized third stage placed the payload into orbit.To support its missile development program, South Africa developed an indigenous solid-propellant production capability. The RSA-4 was still in development when Pretoria announced the dismantlement of its nuclear weapons program and subsequently its space program.

History

1960s to Early 1980s: South Africa Increases Missile Range with Israeli Aid

The Armaments Corporation of South Africa (Armscor) began developing rockets and missiles in the mid-1960s, focusing primarily on short-range tactical missiles for battlefield use. By the early 1980s, Armscor produced only two missiles used by the South African Defence Forces (SADF): the 22km range Valkiri surface-to-surface artillery missile, and the 4-10km range V3 Kukri air-to-air missile.[8] However, in tandem with South Africa's secret nuclear weapons program begun in the mid-1970s, Pretoria began an effort to acquire or build a long-range missile. At that time, South Africa had little if any experience with relevant technologies such as high-thrust engines, propellant production, and inertial guidance systems.[9] Thus, Pretoria turned to Israel, an important military supplier since the 1950s, and one of the few countries to provide military technology to South Africa after the United Nations imposed embargoes on the country for its apartheid system in 1963 and 1977.

A March 1975 memo addressed to the SADF Commandant-General from the Chief of Staff indicates that Israel had offered to sell Pretoria 500km range Jericho-1 missiles, and that Pretoria was interested in acquiring the nuclear warheads to arm these missiles. Rather than buy off-the-shelf Israeli missiles, Pretoria apparently decided to use Israeli designs and technical assistance.

In 1978, Armscor formed Kentron (now Denel Dynamics), a new subsidiary with a staff of 1,600 headquartered in Pretoria, that was responsible for guided missile development and manufacture. Kentron produced the shorter range RSA-1 and RSA-2 missiles, and also, with Israeli help, undertook development of intermediate and long-range ballistic missiles.

Israeli technological assistance included the design schematics and the capability of constructing the ten-ton solid propellant rocket motors that powered the Jericho-2 missile. These motors formed the basis of two space launchers for the R5b space program. The overall design and capability suggest that the RSA-2 was either a licensed copy of, or modeled closely after, Israel's Jericho-2 missile. Moreover, the first and second stages of the RSA-3 used the same rocket motor as Israel's Shavit launch vehicle, and the third stage, also like the Shavit, had a five metric ton thrust spherical motor.

While Pretoria claimed that it was funding a space program, it sought to eventually use the rockets as weapons delivery systems. According to one history of South African-Israeli military cooperation: "In 1987 Armscor informed the South African Cabinet it could build a missile, based on Israeli design, which 'could hit a target in Nairobi within 300 yards,' about 2,500 km from South Africa."

1989: Rocket Test Reveals Nuclear Ambitions and Draws International Scrutiny
Despite UN embargoes, South Africa secretly collaborated with Israel on a ballistic missile program under the guise of a civilian space program, referred to as R5b. In June 1989, the Washington Times reported that, South Africa, with assistance to Israel, planned to test-launch a new intermediate-range missile. Later, an Armscor spokesman confirmed that the company had over the past six years built a missile test range at Overberg on the southern tip of South Africa. Around the same time, U.S. intelligence sources reported that South Africa was close to launching a modified version of Israel's intermediate-range Jericho-2, probably from a facility near Cape Town reportedly almost identical to Israel's launch site in the Negev Dessert. South African officials stated that the new missile had been under development since at least 1987, and would also be used as a booster for launching photo-reconnaissance satellites.

A U.S. Central Intelligence Agency assessment reportedly suggested that South Africa was also preparing to test the more advanced Israeli Shavit space launch vehicle, which might be converted to a 3,200km-range missile.

On 5 July 1989, Armscor announced that it had successfully tested a booster rocket from the Overberg test range. Outside analysts, however, suggested that the test was of an intermediate-range missile, and U.S. intelligence officials thought that a short-range missile with a rocket plume strikingly similar to Israel's Jericho-2 missile had been tested. The test missile flew 1,450 km southeast toward Prince Edward Island.[17]

After U.S. officials publicly stated in October 1989 that Israel was assisting South Africa in developing a medium-range missile, senior Israeli officials again tried to sidestep the matter, but later Israeli sources confirmed cooperation with South Africa on a variety of projects, including the joint development of a surface-to-surface missile armed with a nuclear warhead.

1990 to 2002: South Africa Terminates Ballistic Missile and Space Programs
The July 1989 rocket test intensified international concerns that South Africa, with Israeli collaboration, planned to develop nuclear tipped missiles. On 15 December 1989, the UN General Assembly adopted Resolution 44/113 B, noting its great concern about this cooperation and requesting that the Secretary-General investigate. The resulting 1991 UN report concluded in part:

The South African missile programme relies on foreign technology from various foreign sources.

The only source of officially licensed foreign missile technology today is Israel. Much additional technology is acquired clandestinely and illegally....If South Africa deploys long-range missiles, these are most likely intended to carry nuclear warheads."


http://www.nti.org/country-profiles/south-africa/delivery-systems/


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zetdee: Boko-haram is coming, 40 soldiers dead, 65 missing damn!! useless NA.

zaandrew: did you watch the vedioe at all

zaandrew: It was never the goal of SA to capture the town but to stop the cuban-FAPLA advance, this was achieved and with the enemy suffering heavy losses. SA was all so able to close the airbase there down and force the enemy to keep a sizeable force there

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RefL01AipAU

The Battle of Cuito Cuanavale in 1987/88 was an important episode in the Angolan Civil War

in pursuit of the retreating FAPLA units the SADF and UNITA started the siege of Cuito Cuanavale on 14 October with long-range shelling by 155 mm artillery from a distance of 30 to 40 km.

As of 21 December the SADF planned the final assault "pick off" the FAPLA units which were still caught to the east of the Cuito river "before moving in to occupy the town if the conditions were favourable".

The SADF brought up reinforcements[42] and then carried out, beginning 13 January until 23 March,[citation needed] the first of what would prove to be six major ground assaults on the entrenched FAPLA positions east of the river, none of which delivered tangible results

In a third assault on 19 February the SADF suffered a first major setback when it was repelled by FAPLA battalion north of the Dala river; unable to reach FAPLA's forward positions the SADF had to withdraw.

In the following days the Cubans stepped up their air attacks against South African positions. On 25 February the FAPLA-Cubans repelled a fourth assault and the SADF had to return to its positions east of the Tumpo River. The failure of this attack "proved a turning point of the battle of Cuito Cuanavale, boosting FAPLA's flagging morale and bringing the South African advance to a standstill

After the failed assault on 23 March 1988 under orders from Pretoria the SADF withdrew the bulk of their forces, initially leaving a 1,500-man "holding force" behind (Combat Group 20) to continue deception operations and lay mines in order to prevent or slow any FAPLA offensive operations

As SADF-Colonel Jan Breytenbach wrote, the South African assault "was brought to a grinding and definite halt" by the combined Cuban and Angolan forces

saengine: It will take Nigeria 50 years to develop anything that comes close to such systems. So please don't insult engineers from other countries by posting their videos on this topic.

You don't have the ability to develop strategic cruise missiles. Very simple fact. And please don't tell us about 120km....a number given by illiterate farmers/witnesses. Post an official link showing Nigeria with 120km cruise missiles. I dare you.

Mike..ZA:
You double faced pig. First you asked "for battle" now you're asking "for a war". Let me ask you this,what kind of weapons were used to crash the advance of the 47th brigade in the Lomba river battle?. What kind of prove are looking for that can help you,remove the crap out of your eyes.

Mike..ZA:
During the battle of Lomba river,out 70 T-55 tanks 62 were destroyed or disabled by the G5,G6 and Ratel ZT3(in prototype form). Remember the G5 and G6 howitzers were stationed 50km away,directed by highly Recces. The remaining 10 tanks were found abandoned,by SAn salvage crews. Now show me where Nigeria,won a battle with Nigerian weapons. Your armed forces lack experience,with that reason they should be ranked below Ethiopia and Egypt.

saengine: 1. Why you are talking about Starstreak is beyond me. Are you now claiming that Nigeria is developing surface to air missiles? Starstreak and Nigerian fireworks are in a completely different class. Infact it is an insult to British engineers that you even dare mention their product while talking about Nigerian fireworks.


2. Who is beeagles's sources? Did he see the launch himself or are illiterate Nigerian farmers such as yourself claiming to see such things? 70km and 120km according to who? I never said the Epe is a lie. I only said Nigeria is NOT launching any missiles with 70km or even 120km range. You are only trying to developing rocket engines, simple. Completely different ball game to guided missiles.


3. You say that "range is many times more than altitude. Sometimes 7 times greater." This is a direct quote from you.

Now tell us fool. If according to your illiterate sources the initial range of the 1st rockets tested was 70km. And the initial rocket altitude seemed to reach 3km. How did this rocket manage to travel 23 times further in range than it could in height? I'll tell you......because there was no 70km or 120km flight, simple. Your so called scientists were firing rockets straight up into the air, like I've always been saying.


SA amateur
https://rocketry.co.za/saasa/index_htm_files/12.jpg


Nigerian Phd
www.nairaland.com/attachments/1309865_NIG_MISSILE_TEST_EPE_jpg9d84c4fb65d7ebb278b8555f7148e1d3

zaandrew: I wonder how a 3km range missiel will make nigeria somthing speciol.

I mean that shorter than the ingwene from the 1980s. All so no menstion is made of a payload, speed or any thing. Right now all we know is that a misseil flew 3km straight up and yet the fools here are going on like nigeria invinted a working railgun.

zaandrew: Thise solders are enemys to nigeria and a danger to other nigerian solders. Of course acstion will be tacken. Not taking acstion means the entire nigerian milltary is under BH control.

How ever why has there not been a formaly public invistagstion on the alged abuse to civlians in the north. The miltary has put a media black out in the area and that means when reports come out of nigerian solders abusing civlian they can not be proven or dissproven but only a guilty man tries to hid the facts. Or what of the ecomog war crimes in serrie leon and libberia. No acstion.

Mike..ZA:
Show us "adult talk" pedo. All I have seen you doing was posting links and cut&pastes. You have no "military knowledge" pedo.

Mike..ZA:
The fact remains: South African made weapons will out range and overwhelm your armed forces. Systems like the AMLAGC(G7 prototype).

zaandrew: Missbehaver is one thing hell I will even accept crimnal activty. But tresone, puting the lives of your felow comrads at risk? In old times you don't get the privlage of a grave for that.


The fact that they got in over rules any good from there arrest.