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In fact that's what happened. I never came across a pentecostal who done the same, and started going to catholic church. That's a fact

The thing is that you are Catholic and he is pentecostal. Most catholics accept other ways, not so for pentecostals. You got to be pentecostal.

It seems here what people are interested in is either proving God exists, or God does not exist. Or proving he does not have this attribute or not. A bit crazy.

He better not know everthing as I think he will get pretty bored with some of the discussions here. It's like a sys admin, he can know lot of things but do you think a sys admin, actually does that. Who cares.

"Free will is incompatible with an omniscient God"

Stop telling God what to do.

Was not directing that to you goodguy, to the other fellow You should come to LONDON and hear for yourself. They tell you even that you are sinning and go to Hell if you don't give your money. It goes to the surreal.

The New Testament teachings on giving are unpretentiously simplistic involving the heart and not some law:

"...freely ye have received, freely give" (Matt. 10:8b).


Those are not the words of Moses or Malachi or Paul or whoever else. Those are the exact words of Jesus, the exact words of God himself.
So if one wants to be scriptural, go all the way.

"And the Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess" (Luke 18:12).

And just what kind of a blessing did Jesus pronounced on this Pharisee for his "tithe"?

No blessing, no justification

Tithing to Jesus was so absolutely insignificant to the gross sins of failing to properly Judge the widows and orphans and fatherless and poor, and to not show any Love of God toward them. Tithing was the smallest most inconsequential thing Christ could think of to show the utter hypocrisy of this Pharisees. They were very meticulous about tithing (a law of virtually no spiritual consequence what so ever), and yet they would do the tithe thing and neglect judgment, love and mercy.

Christ's attention to the fact that they were both meticulous tithe-payers, proved the hypocrisy of these two Pharisees. They would pay strict attention to very miner details of a law, and yet totally ab

The New Testament teachings on giving are unpretentiously simplistic involving the heart and not some law:

"...freely ye have received, freely give" (Matt. 10:8b).

Why doesn't your pastor just ask the people to contribute toward paying the church expenses? I can tell you why. A few do, but most don't. And why is that? It is because those who teach false doctrines to exact money illegally from their congregation don't have faith to trust their people to contribute voluntarily out of love. They only know how to teach the Old Testament laws, which are carnal, and therefore don't know how to teach the New Testaments laws, which are SPIRITUAL.

Most pastors see two options:

1. Teach that people will be cursed if they don't tithe ten percent of their annual salaries,

2. Trust God in faith to provide the money from voluntary gifts given from the heart.

If, in reality, trusting would bring in more money than pronouncing curses, no one would ever hear a sermon on tithing again, anywhere on earth. And if anyone suggested to any of these same pastors that tithing is an Old Testament law that Christians must keep or be cursed, those same pastors would ridicule you to scorn for ever suggesting such an obvious unscriptural doctrine that is not binding on New Testament Christians.

They will do whatever brings in the most money. And it is a proven fact, unscriptural threats of curses for no tithing, and blessings for tithing brings in more money than trusting the people, in faith, to supply the needs of the Church.

It's a miracle

I think I solved the great problem of whether to use the "Many worlds" or "Quantum Mind". Now I am convinced that the "Many Worlds" should be it.

We are getting in the surreal here

All this money thing, lending money, going half-half and things like that. It does not look like a true marriage. You don't trust each other.

You never, I mean NEVER find your husband through a friend in my country.

Kiss on the cheek for holding her book ok. Nothing to worry about. I have woman who I go along with, they are not friends but is ok.

Me too

I had sweet relationships when I was four and remember the first sweet kiss

Good for you. Start giving him the difficult ones now

I mean we Italians flirt like other men breathe -- regularly and naturally. A recent survey of more than 1,000 Italian men, 68 percent reported carrying a book to the beach to encourage conversation with women. About 80 percent of those men toted The Bible or Dante's Divine Comedy -- hardly lightweight reading material. No doubt that their pick-up lines are more poetic! The lesson for other men reading this is that to be truly successful with women, you have to use all of your natural resources. All of them.

We are made that way. Lot of men are afraid they ruin things so they try using friendship. So many women are scared of me, actually they all smile a bit, I usually see that smile.

I can only understand it when both get the best from their spouse or honey. Any other way, it's fishy.

Perhaps because I'm Italian.

Of course she will get a reward after that. I'll make her faint. I Italian ok so I know how to do about everything including cooking.

They can be friends if one of them is stupid

I just want to relax and have dinner and quiet time with my family. And squezze the wify a bit, yes.

Yep, what's a man if he cannot feel like a man

He'll better run after that.

Me ANGLICAN too. But not all Anglicans are the same. Some require tithing

Yep, I mean after struggling and fighting all the time, to find parking space, to get the bus, people pissing you off at work, your computer has a problem, your boss expects too much. One wopuld like to be very glad to be home, just "be home". Who wants to start another battlefield at home too. Same for a woman

So we agree that extremism can come from both sides right. I think we agree on this one.

It's not good to have zeal without knowledge. I think in these debates, there's been, at times, a tendency for a lot of zeal, and not as much knowledge as there needed to be. I think the scientists need to get a better grasp on what it is that people are concerned about.

From the other side, I think people, if they're going to have a credible contribution to these very important debates, they have to be brought up to speed on what the information really is and what it isn't. And the good news is, these things are not all that complicated. People assume that it is but, you know, it's really very simple stuff. A modest investment will get you a long way in understanding the issues.