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bro one thing about those old school footballers was their pure soccer skills and artistry. If you now add today's work ethic with their skill bros forget you will be witnessing football played on another planet.

whereas these modern guys remove the fitness without fear of contradiction i doubt up to 10% of them would be able to match up

that's why as great as players like messi and CR7 are you would be IMO hasty to call them all time GOAT after watching Maradona, Pele, Cruyff and so many others in full flight

TheGoodJoe:
If it is in ruggedity and expression of skills, Old football trumps. However, if you bring those players to the modern era, many of them will lack.

They suit their era but this current era, the requirements to keep insanely fit and play with crazy discipline, many from the old era will lack.

At the end, modern football trumps the old era due to advancement of play and insane discipline.

guy bone that side. like the good book says peter plants, paul waters is not the issue but as long as the gospel is preached

charlesemeka85:
the case of maja was the reason i had a fight with andrew then who labelled me an asslicker for recommending a league one player to the super eagles.

i never said i was the one to first make mention of the kid here but i made a strong case for him and was insulted for that and right now someone is tagging me a glory seeker just because i attested to my claim of recommending the kid for a call up last night.

we are not here for popularity contest but to rub minds and discuss football and our darling super eagles

lol crazy vinny later joined hollywood acting remember Lagos television was always fond of showing the 1989 FA Cup final between wimbledon and liverpool

komekn:
You may not remember the quintessential "ENFORCER" Vinny Jones from the crazy Gang of Wimbledon. John Fashanu was one of thier hard men vet limited footballer technically but he could mash people up on the field.

dude get out of my head!

El Fenomeno man was the truth. despite the terrible injuries he copped only God knows the heights he would have ultimately attained if fully fit his entire career

Van Basten now that's the man! grew up watching him on OGTV. his goal against Russia in the finals of Euro 88 still wow till today. injury cut his career too early

charlesemeka85:
Yea he is, the most complete no 9 I have ever seen in the game. Skillful, pacy, strong and prolific, de Lima is the greatest no 9 of all time.

My 2nd pick is van basten

boss Mujtahida good to hear from you

yes i also detest this herd mentality of shouting down differing opinions. I'm a strong believer in using superior logic to win arguments. if the person insists on his or her opinion like you na to jump and pass such comments unless the person makes an obvious gaffe or i want to troll the person.

Yes hurling insults it's uncalled for but how do you control full grown adults on a public forum?

Mujtahida:
I find the gang mentality against komekn puerile and repulsive. It smacks of weakness and cowardice. It has become fashionable to attack him and particularly kellycute and ChrisKels more often than not respond to his posts with disgusting shower of put downs. Yes komekn is infuriatingly biased and unrepentant in his coloured views. Personally most times I just skip past his write ups as I cannot bear his prejudice and sanctimoniousness. However, I still believe that those who chose to engage him can do so without the derisive hurling of epithets and insults. Please the continuous insults directed at komekn should please stop.

thanks boss coming from you I'm really flattered. no one is a fountain of knowledge. we all learn from each other. can't count the number of things I've learned from you and other posters

TheGoodJoe:
I wanted to comment about it but chose to back down. Indeed such a nice writeup. Not too long but very engaging. chrisooblog is such a good writer.

thank you i just aim to inform

Humility017:
This is the post of the YEAR....
IMO.

So interesting and well garnished without plenty grammar you passed your point perfectly

great work everyone involved in drafting these nominees

Icon4s:
NAIRALAND NIGERIAN FOOTBALL FANS AWARDS 2019

Recall a committee was set up to nominate players into different awards categories. After almost 10 days of intense deliberations the committee has come up with the list below:

Full List of Nominees:

1. Nigerian Player of the Year:
- Victor Osimhen
- Odion Ighalo
- Wilfred Ndidi

2. NPFL player of the Year:
- Ifeanyi Anaemena
- Mfon Udoh
- Theophilus Afelokhai

3. Most Impactful New Inclusion (2019):
- Joe Ayodele-Aribo
- Dennis Emmanuel Bonaventure
- Maduka Okoye

4. Best Ogedengbe Super Eagles Best Goal Keeper of the Year:
- Francis Uzoho
- Daniel Akpeyi
- Maduka Okoye

5. Stephen Keshi Best Defender of the Year:
- William Troost-Ekong
- Kenneth Omeruo
- Ola Aina

6. Samuel Okwaraji Best Midfielder of the Year:
- Wilfred Ndidi
- Joe Ayodele-Aribo
- Alex Iwobi

7. Rashidi Yekini Best Attacking player of the Year:
- Odion Ighalo
- Victor Osimhen
- Samuel Chukwueze

8. Most improved player (2019):
- Victor Osimhen
- Ola Aina
- Chidozie Awaziem

9. Young Player of the Year (U-21):
- Francis Uzoho
- Victor Osimhen
- Samuel Chukwueze

10. Best performing Foreign born Prospect of the year:
-Eberechi Ezeh
- Cyriel Dessers
- Ovie Edjaria

11. Super Falcons Player of the Year:
- Chiamaka Nnadozie
- Azeezat Oshoala
- Francisca Ordega

12. Super Eagles Goal of the Year:
- Samuel Kalu vs Benin( 2021 AFCON qualifiers)
- Paul Onuachu vs Egypt (Friendly)
- Joe Aribo vs Brazil (Friendly)

13. Best assist of the Year:
- Osimhen for Chukwueze versus Lesotho ( 2021 AFCON qualifiers)
- Aina for Ighalo vs Burundi (2019 AFCON)
- Musa for Ighalo vs Cameroon ( 2019 AFCON)

14. National Team of the Year:
- The Super Falcons
- The Super Eagles
- The Golden Eaglets


VOTING OF PLAYERS FOR THE VARIOUS WARDS CATEGORIES COMMENCES ON 6TH OF DECEMBER, @ 6AM(NIG TIME)

Guidelines on voting shall be listed out on that same day.

Cc: TheSuperNerd, Andrewbaba44, Forgiveness, Safarigirl, Tbaba1234, Bascovanveli, Komekn

the bold is nothing but the truth

Danielnino00:
When they accuse u of something, U will call an them liars and ask for screenshots . now they brought solid evidence and u are asking for the dates... Are u really a man? ! Real men own up to their mistakes and apologise.. The dates u made those statement don't matter because u never specified that u were making reference to the present.. U just predicted doom for Osimhen because u didn't like u him..same way u don't like Iheanacho. Now the are proving u wrong and U are trying to evade...

Shame on u

the bone of contention was your assertion that Solanke was better than Osimhen at the time when there was no basis yet for such comparisons let alone saying one was better than the other. reason why i put up your quote apart from bants was to show how premature your conclusions on Osimhen were at the time using drawing unfair parallels with Solanke at the time. you judged Osimhen harshly without appreciating that the boy was coming back from a serious knee injury which affects the performances of the best of footballers. you were expecting a young man from africa to come to a tough german league to start performing immediately whether he was settled in or not. even when he went to belgium you mocked him because of his failed trails without appreciating that he was recovering from malaria at the time.

why I'm particular in calling you out on this is because when it comes to your favourite players you are understanding and become their voltron. the ones you don't like wahala. examples of this are too numerous. with Onyedinma he was too loyal to his club, with iorfa the portuguese mafia and wolves had bad belle for him, with chuks aneke injuries, with solanke you stylishly denied backing him saying he was never interested in Nigeria but you mentioned his name then when he seemed on the up and up.

sometimes as a man you can put your hands and say my opinions about this or that player at the time may have been too hasty. unfortunately your ego and desperation not to lose face won't allow you do that. TheGoodjoe backs Iheanacho 100% but was cool when some posters would tease him with his "drills" and "soaking" comments. you are 100% entitled to your opinions but I'm also equally entitled to disagree especially when your assertions contain obvious contradictions.

komekn:
This is DESPERATE DECEPTION some have descended to the bottom of the burned pot to scrape carbon.

Please contend with me on substance and not with infantile misrepresentations.

You posted a screen shot but intentionally omitted the date of the post. Thats intent to mislead and essential fraud.

As we say in football the HERE and NOW. You have sorely DISSAPOINTMENT ME l expected much more from you as an Elder here.


When a text is taken out of context it becomes a CON.

Context is very much time linked. I stand 100% with my view point at that time. That time was over two seasons ago. When Victor was essentially an academy player at Wolfsburg doing NUTTIN.

At that same time l said Chuba Akpom, Tomori Fikayo, Josh Maja and Eberechi Eze were not good enough for the SE. And the latter two unjustified in thier invitation to the SE.

For those of you blinded with negative bias and prejudice. All the players above are what many of you class here as FB. In your attempts to create the principles of tribalism in exclusion of players because they were not born in Nigerian and therefore less NIGERIAN.

They same criticism given to those players l.gave to Osimhen. And it seems he took my advice.

And the COMPLETELY DELUSIONAL HATE MISINFORMATION TAG that l hate all players born in Nigeria and like those born in Europe is a nonsensical proposition with zero substance.

I have said upteen times here, a season is a long time in football and two is history and three is for the archives.

Two seasons ago did anybody believe that Tomori would be a first team player for Chelsea and playing for England ❓ . But that's happened essentially in one good season. Or that Eberechi Eze would be the best player in the Championship ❓ Or that Josh would be the hottest striker in league one ❓


And to think Blueelf announced that we've got him almost with euphoric celebrations simply DELUSIONAL..

That moniker blueeelf has too much excess negative prejudice based baggage to be new here.

more words of wisdom

forgiveness:
How old is Dominic Solanke? Calculate.

He was born on the 14th of September 1997. 20 this year

How old is Victor Osimhen? Calculate.

He was born on 29th December 1998. 19 this year

Solanke is just a year older than Osimhen yet Solanke have achieved more than Osimhen.

At 19 Osimhen is still struggling for games yet you believe Dominic Solanke who starting banging in goals in the Eredivise at the age of 17 (18 after a month) was far from impressive, ba? Smh

Now, you are using age to exonerate Victor Osimhen, Why?

Oh! Because Osimhen is an African while Dominic is British, ba

Hmmmmm!

Who takes you seriously?

well Vardy scoring is a given but they might want to give it to other players whose contributions though unsung without which they won't have achieved much. The season is still far from the end let's watch how things pan out

Blueelf:
If Vardy continues to score like this and finishes as EPL's top scorer and LFC makes the top four, vardy would be voted player of the season. Why:

1 People rate goals more, Tackles, positioninf, breaking up play is undervalued

2 He is English. Yes, Vardy is English

komekn:
Osimhen is operating on past youthful glory as an U17 player, which is essentially small boys football. That as it stands is archived history of plus two years ago. No longer tenable or relevant for current assessment.

Currently, Solanke is the best player in the just recently concluded U20 World cup an accolade that is much closer to the professional senior game.

Solanke was already a regular on the Eredivisie as a 17 year old. Add to that was winning cups for Chelsea as the best youth team arguably in Europe but definitely in England.

Solanke is not just a bench warmer but a fully fledged senior team member for Liverpool.

Osimhen is struggling to warm the bench at Wolfsburg this is the reality. As it stands has he played up to one hour of football this season for struggling and lowly Wolfsburg.

This may be hard for some to digest but Osimhen will not enter the youth team of any top EPL club as it stands. If Indeed he could make the youth team of a Championship side that would be more probable but not certain.

So let's have no doubt Solanke is far ahead of Osimhen in every respect.

forgiveness:
Liverpool agreed a season-long loan deal with Wolfsburg for Divock Origi on deadline day to offer the striker more game time.

The 22-year-old’s position in the first team had come under threat from new signing Dominic Solanke.

Wales youngster Ben Woodburn was also piling on the pressure, prompting Jurgen Klopp to ship Origi out to Germany.

https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/850510/Liverpool-News-Gossip-Divock-Origi-Wolfsburg-Loan-Interview/amp

YYou points lacks merit and facts. This is d koko.

Dominic Solanke chased Origi out of liverpool-fc and Klopp rubber stamped it by sending him on loan. GBAM!

incase anybody wants to claim they never said Solanke chased Origi here is the Goodjoe tackling that assertion

TheGoodJoe:
Incoherent again.

Danny Ings is enough to know that is a joke quote. Even during the preseason, it was clear Origi was ahead of Solanke in pecking order.

The point is Solanke did not push Origi out. He left because of playing time and Solanke was not denying him playing time. Solanke was behind Origi in pecking order.

The point is too simple. It is a wonder how you can drag (not argue) such a simple point.

was going through some old posts of mine saw this gem i wrote responding to the Osimhen/Solanke comparison orisirisi things wey pesin dey talk for this place

chrisooblog:
Solanke/Osimhen debate is straight forward really. Solanke has had years of exposure to top level football but is yet to show much of that promise. he might still come good but as of now i haven't seen him do anything which i find abit awkward considering that he should be having chances to play based on sadio mane missing alot of liverpool's recent matches and kloop not fancying sturridge that much. so it's logical that the ''hot english prospect'' and u20 mvp should be having playing opportunities but he's chopping bench. if we say we are using past glories of u17 to rate osimhen we shouldn't also use past glories of u20 to over hype solanke. at the moment based on the opportunities and exposure solanke has enjoyed he should be light years ahead of his peers but he's still not doing it. osimhen on the other hand barely 3 years ago was hawking in lagos traffic no professional exposure to football but through hardwork, talent and a bit of good fortune he's now found himself at one of germanys most prestigious clubsides. that wolfsburg is at present battling relegation doesn't mean they are not a solid club. didn't dortmund find themselves in relegation waters in the early part of the season under kloop some years back? so downgrading wolfsburg to slate osimhen as being a poor player is a bit unfair. let's still give him the benefit of doubt and let time judge. rohr has sha not been calling him up if that is what is vexing some of us. i will still give solanke time to prove us his doubters wrong but so far i'm not impressed

Really happy for KC. After a lot of on field off field disappointments I'm glad he has started to show the kind of form that attracted him to the Man city hierarchy. Still needs game time and consistent quality performances before a return to the Super Eagles is suggested but based on yesterday's display he's not far off. Yes like Tbaba said he should perish the thought of going to Turkey at least for now. he has shown he can still cut it in the EPL hopefully this busy xmas schedule will see him get good game time to further cement his place in Brendan Rodgers team.

I also agree with what one poster said that the way it's going Ndidi might be in the running to be named Leicester city's player of the season. pray he continues to stay fit and in form

good for him who knows if he keeps this up he might get a recall to the national team

forgiveness:
Olanrewaju Kayode scored. Now 3 goals with 3 assists.

sorry but haqhaqhaqhaq

tbaba1234:
See the first goal, Afelokhai conceded


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKv-CnSl0yQ

he's definitely ripe for an invite. i share your fears and concerns that his performance could be a result of facing lesser quality defenders in the dutch league compared to the top five leagues. However his consistency over the past couple of years should have the national team handlers interested in seeing him up close especially at a time the search for a quality back up or competition for Osimhen is still on

charlesemeka85:
ALL I SAID IS THAT I SEE NOTHING SPECIAL IN HIS GAME WHICH I HAD A GLIMPSE OF HIS BEST MOMENTS IN YOUTUBE. IF YOU CAN'T DEAL WITH THAT THEN GO SLEEP

chai my broda we do see some kain yarn for this thread

ChrisKels:
I remember the line "the presence of Solanke sent Origi away to bench Osimhen", hence, Solanke is better than Osimhen since the player that was sent on loan for him(Solanke) is benching osimhen

but but according to your logic if you are doing it in a bigger league you can't be compared to someone playing in a far less inferior league. abi isn't that the crux of your argument where Sadiq Umar is concerned? Bros Komekn i would suggest you choose a hustle and stick to it cos the number of times you change opinion on an issue depending on who is involved surpasses that of a faulty NEPA switch

komekn:
Favoritism and double standard.

One goal and he now ready for the SE it's do laughable.

Meanwhile Dessers who has been consistently consistent over a number of season NUTTIN.

My Birthday mate! flex dey go jare blessings bro

kellycute:
My birthday night life!. I thank God for life!!!

JaceBlaze:
I haven't been to both countries but these pictures are evident enough.We don't need flight tickets to conclude that Kenya is centuries ahead of Nigeria.If they were smart enough they would use this thread as a motivation to work hard to improve Nigeria but they are throwing insults instead.

pictures never tell the whole story before concluding on something it will be best to do your own independent research and check all the indices level of education Healthcare infrastructure generally and not just for one City e t c one thing I have learned from this thread is to never take anything at face value. When you interrogate supposed facts and figures you realize how shallow those claims are.

sey rohr na prison warden wey dey free people ni?

jihday:
'We have world class players, Rhor is holding them back he needs to free them so we can be beating teams by 5 goals minimum. If only Rhor played attacking football we'd have been world and African champion by now'

your second paragraph is the heart of the matter. even in club football where their is less patience especially with top sides club owners (who are not perez of real madrid lol) are wary of getting rid of coaches just because they haven't won a trophy especially when they see progress in quality of team play and results. progress which you rightly said could eventually lead to trophies. examples of this abound joachim loew gradually built the germans from 2006 until they peaked in 2014. liverpool under kloop, man city under pep.

you will also notice that such club owners don't hesitate to sack such managers when they see a drastic drop in quality of team play and results even if the coach won a trophy the previous season. that's why raneiri, di matteo and even our legend late stephen keshi got the axe because their teams were showing decline in output.

with rohr i'm seeing steady progress and improvement. people might argue that he is just a klismann or luis aragones type to act as a bridge before a better fit comes in but with the current nff's poor record of choosing adequate coaches i concur with you that we stick to the bird in hand for now

charlesemeka85:
that why the so called football enthusiast and media are bent on spewing propaganda just to get him sacked because if they re truly lovers of the national team they won't allow their selfish intents blind them from the progress the team have made so far since coming of rohr.


Building a national team takes time, it begins with trial and errors until the right tactics and players are mastered and groomed to understand each other. it took westahof 4 years to put together the most successful team we have ever had that went on to qualify for their first world cup outing, winning the afcon and ranked fifth by fifa in the whole world.

Rohr has his flaws and short coming but with the work he has done so far with the team which is positive so far it will be disastrous to let him leave.

from his statement so far he wish to continue with the team but demands that his contractual agreement with the nff must be respected in terms of payment of his allowances and wages while the nff as well invite him for talks on renewing his contract. if truly rohr wish to abandon a team he nurtured from scratch to one of the best in the continent currently he would have left immediately after the afcon.

human yes but ours is on another level

PrecisionFx:
"" the african especially the nigerian still does things that if a foreign invader from europe or asia wanted to attack your country they wouldn't need to lift a finger. people wilfully sabotaging your countries economy, acting as local fronts/spies""

A human behaviour, not a Nigerian or African behaviour

have we really? the african especially the nigerian still does things that if a foreign invader from europe or asia wanted to attack your country they wouldn't need to lift a finger. people wilfully sabotaging your countries economy, acting as local fronts/spies for other countries enforcing laws that degrade humiliate your citizens list is endless

PrecisionFx:
Millions of Nigerians have shaken off their mental slavery, but that is still not the issue.




If u like be mentally free or be mentally enslaved, The owners of Nigeria still owns it.

Simple.

abi o yeyeman who mostly picks players based on merit, foolish man who doesn't know nigerians like the thrill and HBP inducing passion of not knowing whether your team will qualify for a tournament until the last minute. mctwwww

charlesemeka85:
wooooooooooooooow! rohr must be sacked

Every sincere person knows "submissive" is a pseudonym for let the woman look the other way when I cheat and generally accept (no scratch that) shovel and enjoy their BS in the name of happy successful marriage.

As much as we leave in a patriarch society us men have to do better especially black man. white men generally treat their women with respect why do you think the feminist movement gained traction in the western society if not for the support of men. here in nigeria i can barely think of any culture that highly venerates women. even the thing about igbo men taking care of their women is an extension of their ego that yes i'm capable as a man not in a 'oh i love this woman so much i can do anything for her' kind of way most times

i respect aspects of the feminist movement but the misandry, male hating wing is something that rubs me up the wrong way i won't lie. Powerful and influential women like Hillary Clinton, Michelle Obama, Theresa May and Angela Merkel respect and love the men in their lives but sorry to say some psycho women will carry the movement like ''kpom kpom'' on their head trying to destroy and belittle good societal values.

Bottom line is black men especially do better to raise responsible and respectful men who will treat women well. While black women should continue to fight the good cause of justice, equity and equality without bringing in some stupid arguments that muddle the waters

safarigirl:
thank you, Joebie.

So many Nigerian men want to be worshipped by their women, but don't want to worship their women.

They keep talking of what a woman should do, but have conveniently left out the man's part. Just yesterday, I read a thread by a divorce lawyer in Nigeria, a man at that, and he came to the conclusion that women in Nigeria are going through hell, disguised as marriage.

Nigerian men are scared of feminism because it means women have started having sense to call them out on their BS, it means more women are crawling out of abusive homes. It means they can't step all over their wives like their fathers stepped all over their mothers. The idea that women have rights at all, even less equal ones, disturbs them greatly. They will come here and tell you those aren't their fears and base it all on culture and tradition; a tradition that demeans women and treats them as lesser beings, especially the Igbo ones. Tradition that cut daughters off their fathers inheritance on the excuse that they will take it to their husband's house, as if on the average, women are not more likely to take care of aged parents than men.

But it is not the fault of the men, you cannot give what you don't have. It is society that made us all the way we are, and it is the same society that we mustt reconstruct. Change is constant and even cultures and traditions are subject to change. The inheritance law has been struck out and there will be more to come with time. We move

Good morning

As in!

Blueelf:
What is Agu and Esiti doing there.

They are faculty members in the Carpentry Unit (Nigerian Campus)

i don't know about abundant Ndidi is the only quality DM we have. Esiti is not it for now while Mikel Agu hasn't overly impressed me truth be told

OMANBALA1:
It will be hard pressed to have Rohr play a non DM in the presence of abundant quality DM.