still is it the first time that Chelsea will be dealing with Shrewd football agents? that said i also question if the management sort the opinion/advice of chelsea youth coaches before offering him that deal because if he was just basic and average in training sessions then i doubt they would have insisted on keeping him at all costs.
i haven't seen odoi that much in action but i would be lying if I said i was impressed with the little i saw.
Yes Chuks is a gem. only thing lacking in his game is that tactical football intelligence that separates the average/just there talent from the greats. really hope his coaches are giving him that education and he likewise is imbibing all they are teaching him.
TheSuperNerd: It is the agent of the boy you should be after. Not the boy. That agent Sabi marketing strategy and branding Wella. Used the Bayern links as clout to hype Odoi as the next Ribery or Robben meanwhile the lad is so f**king basic and average.
Chuks is his boss. They shouldn't even be mentioned in same convo.
someone on twitter called him fraudson odoi lol but in all seriousness how that boy threatened/scammed chelsea into giving him a bumper contract without doing jack needs to be researched and studied in universities
charlesemeka85: Chuks is miles better than odoi abi odoh.
Zaha the best winger in the EPL? nothing wey Heimdall no go see for asgard pray tell how is he the best winger when even Willian and Daniel James have better stats than him this season?
komekn: The entirety of End product in your football dictionary equates to GOALS alone according to you.
Zaha arguably the best winger in the EPL how many goals has he scored this season. And even previous seasons.
Finally, l apologise if l said that you in particular made multifaceted excuses for KC when he has not been perfoming. My statement was intended to be in general
What l should have said that on this thread where KC is concerned in general making multifaceted excuses has been the overriding trend.
Nobody has said that Sarr has been outstanding in the EPL. My posts have said that he had been largely dissapointing.
However, l qualified it with circumstances not excuses so as to be balancedand not too harsh. Particularly as he has been consistently outstanding in the French league one as a winger.
In this regard he has been here in the EPL for 3/4 months struggling with injuries.
the same cia couldn't detect the famous weapons of mass destruction in iraq during saddam's reign so excuse him for being hesitant to gulp up any information they dish out
mtisTheQubit: Man if ths is how you view the world then ya lost...like I said wake up from from naive ness you hobbit monkey
yes they gather all sorts of information but I'm really doubting that they will spend sleepless nights looking for information about paved roads in some random african country which has no direct effect on American national security. why I'm more unconvinced about that "factbook" site is because a lot of their information is not up to date and is probably gotten from the host country's official sources
jln115: Except the CIA doesnt just have Jack working for them..... They have thousands of employees who gather all sorts of data on all kinds of things:
"The World Factbook provides information on the history, people and society, government, economy, energy, geography, communications, transportation, military, and transnational issues for 267 world entities."
the bold is so true. even under pellegrini i never saw KC look as sharp and on form as he did on sunday
tbaba1234: Some players are 'confidence' players. When confidence is high, they are unstoppable. When confidence is low, they are terrible.
Confidence plays a role for every player but it affect some more than others.
Maybe Kelechi needs confidence to operate well, he looks like a better version of the under 17 boy. We have seen him play like this before but all of a sudden, it looked like he could not play ball again.
The arrival of Pep in city seemed to dampen his confidence and he never regained it till now.
google Syria and those other countries i mentioned what comes up? plus you still haven't explained why those countries i stated don't come up
gallivant: Branding is about perception not what you want to believe. When you Google Nigeria, your brand shines through albeit negatively. This is not my opinion but reality.
Chris: yo Jack you through with those surveillance reports of that isis cell in iraq?
Jack: sorry fam i'm busy looking at satellite pictures of paved roads in kenya. the peace of the world depends on it
Chris: you right man how could i have forgotten that the number of paved roads in kenya is a national priority
samorobo: [b]I wonder when Cia's job became checking road pavement....[/b]So we will believe a US force organisation centred on catching criminals over their govt official report...
The dude is white and he is trying to do what white people do best which is forcefully colonizing a black man but this time it is psychological.if not why would he discredit what a black man says bit promote what his racially related long distance cousin have to say about a black nation...he doesn't know we west Africans are black supremacist and we have no respect for the white race, he can try out that slave mentality with the the Kenya ..They've always cherish the thought of becoming a colony..
too much beef is bad for your health besides Einstein if all those stuff you listed were a criteria for us wouldn't Syria, Afghanistan, Haiti, DR Congo to mention a few be rated higher?
gallivant: The only brand that Nigeria is known for is corruption, poverty, terrorism and refugees. Just Google Nigeria and see what pops up.
actually AJ has always shown love and respect to Naija so it's only natural people would show him love as well. it's not just nigerians trying to do attach by force to a nigerian born foreigner
andrewbaba44: Naija people love success so they will love AJ, i am glad he is not representing naija
if it was last season i would have agreed with all you said in your first paragraph but the KC i saw yesterday is quite agile now plus his pace has always been decent. however i agree with you that his best position is still as a support striker or in the hole behind the main attacker.
The wings will limit his goal scoring abilities
Rockyrascal: the first formation is solid; but against a lowly ranked team. iheanacho cannot operate from the right wing as he doesn't have the speed, pace and also the quality of been agile.
This type of formation can do well if there is a switch to a 3:5:2 in the second half especially when a crucial goal is needed.
hmmm a luxury player. i haven't seen ebere play in a full 90 minute match for me to be able to assess him but I trust your judgment on him. if ovie is the one that has the qualities to improve the super eagles based on your own observation then I agree.
charlesemeka85: his poor work rate is one aspect in his game which may turn him to a perennial bench warmer in serious minded epl teams if he joins any? coaches of nowadays like their AM's to be workaholics in other to stiffen the midfield when they re not in possession of the game. ejaria has this aforementioned quality more than him.
he is still young and i believe he will learn all this with time
true but you also can't say that didn't play a part. how many players off the top of your head do you remember joining top european clubs direct straight from local league who weren't in anyway involved in the national team especially in that era?
andrewbaba44: Okay but you cant tell me marsielle got him because of the mandela challenge
i remember taiwo playing for nigeria in 2004 in the mandela challenge against south africa. it was just before the under20 afcon tournament in january 2005 that he joined marseille
andrewbaba44: You have a point , onyekuru case was different and i dont know why
Did taiwo joined marsielle because of national team?
Taiwo joined marsielle direct from lobi stars before the 2005 world youth championship even started
like a defoe/crounch scenario during their tottenham days or mboma/etoo for cameroon. that said i've seen similar attribute players still function well together andrew cole/dwight yorke, sturridge/saurez players who are not necessarily pure target man but rely more on their pace and clever movement
TheSuperNerd: It is not about size. It is about the attributes of both strikers. Rashidi was an all out number 9. Amokachi was more of a support striker. That is why both could work in fine synergy.
Osimhen and Dessers will only work if one of them (likely Osimhen) functions as the striker that plays off the other one more. Like a Support striker. This is why I say Dessers may or may not combine with Osimhen. If both combine as all out number 9s, they could get into each other's paths.
In a Big Striker/ Small striker combo, it is obvious what each brings with their attributes. The Big striker serves as the target man who the small striker serves as roaming striker. One supports, the other plays as the all out 9. One plays off the other. So it is about attributes and not size when I mention such combo.
what then happened to onyekuru he no be special "talent"? i agree with you 100% that your ability as a player will open doors for you but also being an international player for even nigeria can help hasten the process. Finidi George, Daniel Amokachi, Taiye Taiwo would probably not have gotten big money moves abroad or at best been delayed several years if not for the national team
andrewbaba44: The 75 percent of national teams games doesnt apply to big national teams its mostly africans and others small european nations, it doesnt even apply to special talents
Iheanacho hasnt play 10 percent of national team games before epl debut, ndidi hasnt play 10 percent of naija games before joining leicester
Isaac success hasnt done so too, if you are good you are good jare, dem go buy you put you as special talent
yes but super eagles helped put him in the spotlight. when you a full international for a country it definitely boosts your sale. England that insist you must have played 75% of recent matches for your national team before you can qualify for a work permit you think they don't know what they are doing? ebeuhi is talented and is very possible he would have eventually left den haag but you cannot also authoritatively dismiss his being a nigerian international did not help
men what a fall from grace. going from being allegedly wanted by bayern to french 4th division. January window can't come soon enough for henry. find it puzzling though how he has completely fallen out of favour at Monaco. could it be attitude problems on henry's part cus most clubs will always give players time to adjust not to completely cast you aside barely 3 months after spending good money for you
charlesemeka85: Henry Onyekuru Demoted To Monaco B Team Playing In France 4th Division After Failing To Impress
apart from ekong don't forget tyronne ebuehi who played for modest den haag in holland. after playing in the world cup for nigeria boom transfer to benfica
andrewbaba44: You guys like taking the glory to SE
Even if he hasnt play a major tournament he has already been cap tied by the qualifiers so please leave van der vaart issues abeg, if naija no go world cup ekong don already cap tie, if naija still no go nations cup e still cap tie because of the qualifiers
Ola aina that didt play any tournament before torino move nko? shebi na super eagles make torino buy am?
Maybe if ajax buy dessers tomorrow or others team in better league and eagles capped him twice before then una go run say na because of eagles, funny people
If aribo join epl team soon maybe una go say na because of super eagles appearance, una go forget say aribo na beast for rangers and with or whout eagles he has been doing so well
Humility017: c'mon the guy is just under 23... he is not even up to 22...he has been 18 for about 3 years now...hopefully before he clock 23....he turns to a beast none of the teams in the top 5 league can afford...
real Madrid and man city will have to contribute money to buy him...with each club having the right to play 19 match each for both clubs...in a season.
glad you are ok. All that has been lost to this robbery attack will be gotten back tenfold in Jesus name
ChrisKels: Not funny, I am still in shock and pains. I had my first robbery experience yesterday. I was driving home from a friend’s house at about 7:30pm when I got double crossed by one dirty looking Camry, along old airport road, Emene, I pulled over thinking it was SARS operatives, with their Berettas all pointing at me, dey demanded for my phone and car keys, I played to their tone maka ndu m, I submitted my Tecno Pouvoir2 pro LA7 that I just acquired last October(21st) wey I bn take dey do I makwa ndi anyi bu, dey ransacked my car and made off leaving me with no penny as dey also emptied my wallet.
Wetin pain me pass na one wey tinny like elyte89 come short like Charlesemeka wey collect my cap and brushed it across my face, using Andrew44's deep voice, he said to me ”u think say na u fresh pass for this hood nah"
i think they would have coped football is highly tactical and mechanical these days but it's still that stroke of genius such as de bruyne's on saturday that will more often than not win you games. Zidane who i will not put at Maradona or Pele's level did stuff that seemed to be in slow motion but when you are the opposing player on the end of such display you will know what happened was no ordinary dribbling skill
TheGoodJoe: In the modern game, the pressure on build up play and to make a throw is so intense now. Next time a Manchester City game is on, watch how difficult it is for the opposition to make throws.
Talk less of walking past defenders and scoring unbelievable goals.
It is far more difficult now. The defenders of the past were brash while the defenders now have intelligence.
Boss go to any dusty pitch in lagos you will find jugglers aplenty but pulling these skills of in high pressure situations with results on the line is something you have to give to the old school guys. The Mahrezes, Sterlings and aubumayeangs of today are decent but the breath taking abilities of these past footballers will leave you in awe
TheGoodJoe: Watch 1:50 of this clip and see the way Mahrez trapped the ball. You will see his skills in his locker. Not to talk of Bernardo Da Silva who is just pure mad on the ball but still finds it way difficult under pressure.
Next time your watching Mahrez play, watch the way he traps the ball repeatedly. No matter how hard of high the ball is. Check out skills by Marcelo and the way he traps ball too.
Maradona, Pele, Cruyff to mention a few were geniuses, football innovators who won so many games with individual brilliance. De Bruyne who you mentioned the goal he scored on saturday against newcastle Pele and Maradona scored numerous types without breaking a sweat. These old school guy's football IQ was off the charts. i'm really struggling to agree with you that guys who faced defenders hell bent on breaking your legs will suddenly find it hard to cope in a modern era that penalises every little foul committed.
bros you are really dismissing Pele and Maradona et al because you feel they can't run threadmill and go on a diet?
TheGoodJoe: Very nice addition but I do not agree with that assumption.
One thing the current players have is the mad drive for success. These guys train almost round the clock. Look at the speed at which these guys recover from injury and how quickly to learn different systems of play.
When it comes to tricks, these current players like James Rodrigues, Vinicius, Adama Traore, Gabriel Jesus, Sane, Walker (pulled some mad tricks yesterday, I did not know he had them in his locker), Robertson, Lallana, Iwobi and a host of others have the skills. However, during play, they do not have the time on the ball to pull those tricks off.
Watch the last Chelsea and Manchester City game. It got to a point Kovacic was laughing at De Bruyne because every trick De Bruyne had, Kovacic stopped with brilliant positioning and reading of play. Kovacic was on De Bruyne for most part of the game.
The best way to excel in the modern system (which I see getting more intense with time) is with quick thinking and action. Just as we saw with Rodrigo yesterday.
Look at Ndidi of recent. He had to adapt because he was giving the ball away too much. Now he is getting faster with his decisions when he breaks up play or get the ball in tight spaces.
So, Maradona, Pele and Co would find it difficult to cope in this time because of having it difficult to do things with the ball, while the current players will have the tricks and quick decisions.