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raumdeuter:
What is the chance that all these players were bad players

Alexis, Maguire, Bissaka, Fred, Mata, Falcao, Rojo, Martial Depay Schneiderlin, Darmian Bailly Mhkitaryan, Pogba Lukaku, Matic Lindelof, Dan James, Telles, Cavani, Diallo, Ronaldo,

Mount Amrabat Onana

😂😂😂 Did you even see some of the players you listed?

Cavani was really good here. Till his second season that he faked injury all year.
Matic was past his best but was still really decent for us.

And why're you even including Mount that has been injured most of the season. Or Onana that joined like months ago. Their United story just began.

Point is you're listing mids to prove a silly point. Imagine we signed some of the other mids we were linked to like Bellotti, Morata, Pau Torres and the likes. You for say na United be problem.

raumdeuter:
The point is if Man utd had bought Haaland pr Gundogan they would have been flops as well while if City buys Sancho and Miki they would have excelled and we will be here blaming Dortmund for selling them bad players like Haaland and Gundogan

Haha this is silly. Mhiki went to Arsenal after United. What stopped him from achieving things there lol.

Bruno came here and totally turned the team around. That's a real quality player with the right mindset. Same as Martinez. The quality is obvious. Even Casemiro that's obviously gotten a bit slower has shown real quality here.

Haaland and Gundogan at United wouldn't be as scary as they are/were at City but they definitely would still be a huge hit at the club.

odizeey:
Abeg wetyn Messi win to take be 2023 fifa best player.

Football players who voted for Lionel Messi in 1st -
• Kylian Mbappé
• Mohamed Salah
• Harry Kane
• Romelu Lukaku
• Andy Robertson
• Luka Modric
• Federico Valverde
• Robert Lewandowski
• Falcao
• Virgil Van Dijk
• Jan Oblak
• Gianluigi Donnarumma
• Granit Xhaka

raumdeuter:
How are other teams able to identify their 1% and Man utd unable to?

Sancho Haaland and Bellingham all dey from.the same Dortmund. The 2 are doing great at their new clubs na only the one you buy became bad

Gundogan Aubameyang and Mhikitaryan were all from the same Dortmund side, 2 did great only the one Man Utd bought became bad

Even the ones signed from the same EPL like Alexis Lukaku Maguire Mata joined and became bad

Man utd even made one of the greatest players of his generation look bad

At this point you're just arguing for the sake of it.

You're asking how we couldn't identify the 1%. Isn't that the whole point? For years we had an accountant deciding the incomings and outgoings at the club. We've never had real competent hands in charge of the club. That's the whole fvcking point?

All you did with all the Dortmund players you listed was buttress my point that we are clueless when it comes to recruitment.

raumdeuter:
What is the likelihood that over 20 players all doing great in their clubs all landed in United and immediately became shitt

Alexis, Maguire, Bissaka, Fred, Mata, Falcao, Rojo, Martial Depay Schneiderlin, Darmian Bailly Mhkitaryan, Pogba Lukaku, Matic Lindelof, Dan James, Telles, Cavani, Diallo, Ronaldo,

Mount Amrabat Onana are already looking funny

How many you see for that list up there

How many of these players went on to achieve great things after leaving United? There lies the answer you're searching for.

Falcao, Mkhi, Lukaku and James even went to other EPL teams and were still shit after. Still trying to blame that on United?

The thing is the players that can actually cut it at the level expected for a United player is less than 1% of the total crop of talented players. We have issues identifying the one percent.

raumdeuter:
If you cant name 5 transfers in 10yrs who have been successful maybe its not the players with the problem but your club

Proven performers like DiMaria, Alexis, Pogba, Schweinsteiger who have been successful at other clubs and at their country came to your club and looked out of place

All these would make sense if any of them left United and went on to become extraordinary for another team.
Shweinsteiger and Alexis were past their prime when they came here.
Pogba was never going to be that player that'll give you at least a constant 7/10 performance. What he needed was a club that his below-par performances would go largely unnoticed.
DiMaria never wanted to be at United and it was obvious from early on.


Like I said, our recruitment is so terrible.

raumdeuter:
In the last 10yrs name 5 United transfers that have been outstanding success

Maybe you'll finally realize where the problem is

It's not a secret. We've got poor recruitment. A talented player with huge following like Sancho was always going to top our transfer list. No one at the club gave a fvck about his mental fragility and how it translates into playing for United.

Leyqute:
All his recent talks about project setbacks os starting to sound annoying. Looks like he's on borrowed time and he knows it.

All the injuries and issues with the team no be project setback? He needs to repeat it everytime for everyone that doesn't understand that sometimes, in life, things don't go according to the set-out plan. Doesn't mean we should throw everything away when there's a chance to get things back on track.

Oasis007:


Sancho had an assist. LOL!

I hope we'll not make this a thing on this thread. People on Twitter don start already but those ones are always fishing for likes from clueless teens.

He's found his level. Let him cook there. Man spent years under 3 managers here and was a bum each time.

nitrogen:
Can you provide links? I thought Rangnick was our caretaker manager in his last few months at Utd? So, Murtough cut off communications with one of the most important person in the club at that time? Plus, we all knew ETH was getting the job months before, and the board/management was happpy to have both of them work together. That was the plan!

ETH came and said he needed a fresh start. Not interested in working with him. It was a condition he had prior to signing his contract.

Same ETH wants to keep his player recruitment role, and is trying to block any improvement Sir Jim wants in that regard. No be juju be that?

Just like I said, it's all about Ten Hag out that's why everyone's trying to put this on Ten Hag and basically develop amnesia to everything that was going on then.

And stop making up things!! At the point ETH was hired, no one was excited about them working together. Relationship between Rangnick and Murtough had broken down before then.

I'm pretty sure you reacted to 'The Athletic's' exclusives about Rangnick's time at United, so why you come dey feign ignorance now.

As for your last paragraph, he's not trying to block anything. It's all about negotiation. At the end, they'll agree with something that works. It's super obvious but y'all won't see it cuz anythingg negative about Ten Hag give y'all hard-ons.

obonujoker:
But ego didn't make him want to work with Ragnick

Go back to confirmed news about Rangnick's time at United.

The last few months he was at the club, Murtough cut communications with him. This is someone he wass supposed to act as an advisor to.

Rangnick's time ended long before ETH was appointed. Everyone knows this apart from those looking for reasons to be Ten Hag out.

Leyqute:
Naming Bruno captain is enough reason to sack ETH.

Lmao let's not start abeg. He's still the best option available. Who else deserves it? Varane? Rashford?

Leyqute:
He didn't score or even make an assist today.

Dude was terrible at Utd. Was dragging scoring shot with Rashford that day after that one don dribble finish.

If he was still at United, he'd be worse than Antony. Small club mentality

😂I don't even understand what Elanga was yapping about. No one regrets letting you go boy. And you didn't do anything special today.
Only reason the mofo looked decent today was he had so much space to run into which is all his game is all about.

I literally said this. "After trolling and posting memes, I come dey see 'come on boys'. This thread ehhn."

But man said I came after those criticizing the team. There lies the problem.

patrickmuf:
When people mention you when we lose you get upset but you are quick to come for those who rightfully criticise the coach and players after every poor performance.

Against Aston Villa, we were very poor in the first half and were 2 goals down which saw a lot of folks register their displeasure with the performance as should be the case. In the second half the team bounced back and we won and folks here praised the display but you drop a comment shading guys who criticized the performance in the first half. I really don't know whether you except us to praise the team for being poor whenever they serve us such poor performances.

Maybe, you just want to be on the opposite side of things always else, I don't understand you.

Lmao and where did I say you shouldn't criticize the team after losing? There's a huge difference between criticizing and heavy trolling.

You said I dropped a comment shading people that critized the team. What type of lie is that? I literally talked about those trolling.

I think the problem here is you can't differentiate between criticizing performances, tactics, lineups and pure trolling that some of you embark on here. So you can never understand me.

Wow Arsenal got piped at home by West Ham. Same thing happened to us last week and you'd think Ten Hag was caught in an orgy with teens.

Admittedly, we've been awful so far this season but the reaction is always super crazy. The league's super competitive this season. That, combined with injuries and other issues means the manager deserves some leeway.

Ratcliffe is a smart business man and won't be moved by emotional, reactionary fans. Know this and know peace.

Mrviktor:
To this day..

I still dont believe mount plays for manutd.

I can't remember 3 matches he has played..
It's crazy..
Injury or not.

It's giving sanchez vibes.

Sometimes I totally forget sanchez played for us..

This is just year one though of so many years at the club. I believe he'll come good. He needs to settle in and also overcome all these injuries.

kozmicity:
So, Garnacho is still exciting to watch... Na just ETH tactics be shit.

You that Dalot and Wan-Bissaka eh, God go too bless them, Dem get special place for heaven. See Dalot today... JESUS!!!

I don't know if you guys noticed how we switched back to how we were playing last season only with more energy this time.

Was it the lack of Eriksen that made us switch tactics abi ETH na just stubborn goat?

Villa played an highline. Garnacho's favorite meal.

After trolling and posting memes, I come dey see 'come on boys'. This thread ehhn😂.

Leyqute:
Bbut you said they didn’t fvck up na.

Obviously I'm saying they didn't in regards to the club's relationship with Greenwood. Everything's on Greenwood 100%. Our whole discussion has been about the influence of the club's decision on Greenwood's career.

United's fvck up was in regards to the relationship with the fans.

Leyqute:
Could United have handled the situation better?

Could United have done anything (before and after the tapes came out) to ensure that the egotistic buffoon doesn’t spend the next 2 years (a core period of his development) without an iota of professional football?

What're you saying? Howwww?

Are you saying he should have played while the case was ongoing or what? Whose fault is it that he spent his core period of development abusing his girlfriend? Let's not kid ourselves please.

The club did all they could! The only part they fvcked up was when the clueless fvcks didn't read the room and were going about as if he was going to be introduced back into the team which was met with massive backlash.

Leyqute:
Don't hold your breath about Greenwood.

But that guy is a generational talent. His versatility is out of this world and his decision making is fantastic!

He can cross and shoot with both feet now. Both feet! And I'm not talking about feeble shots and crosses. I mean hot shots and really good crosses.

Getafe's coaches dedicate a whole tactic based on this guy. Two people marked him versus Atletico Madrid. Always. And that didn't stop him from creating chances. Their first goal was a rebound from one of his shots!!

Greenwood can go left or right and create havoc. You know those situations where Antony will see acres of space in front of him plus two free teammates on the other side, and then instead of going forward or squaring to those teammates, he'll go back? Greenwood never goes back.

That guy is a generational talent. United fvcked up. Don't hope on him coming back cos it'll break your heart more if he ends up elsewhere and smashes records there.

Or Greenwood fvcked up?

Whatever happened with the Greenwood situation is not on United In anyway. His time here was done immediately all those tapes and recordings came out.

afrodoc2:
ETH has to also do some soul searching himself to see how he can better address personnel issues. Varane has largely being a chilled character in his career and usually does not rock the boat.

There has to be repercussions, but common sense has to be applied as well. Varane is by far our best central defender. We don't know the details of what happened but the manner of delivering a message can sometimes be as important as the content of the message. ETH should keep that in mind.

Haha you can't truly tell how Varane is when he's absolutely pissed off.

There has to be repercussions but isn't the most common one benching such player for a few games? The time he spent out was only extended by his display when he finally got the chance to play.

But I do agree, he needs to try to handle things better. Maybe he should have applied the same treatment he gave Rashford that time he was late to training. But no one knows for sure what Varane did as well.

Jodera:
I think it's only Michael Oliver that's doing this nonsense. No other epl ref have done this nonsense of giving 2 yellow cards in same sequence unless Oliver.

He also did same nonsense to Martinelli when he gave him two yellow card in 2 seconds for same sequence for two fouls

Very stupid mofo. He also did it to Di Maria. Imagine how many years ago that was.

I know I'm against the sacking of Ten Hag, which makes everyone automatically go against my posts. But that makes people pick out things that are simple and straightforward and twist and turn them into something else. It's absolutely silly.

TrebleChamp:
He is the new portable of this thread 😁. He is not defending Ten Hag because he believe the Manager is doing well, rather because other fans are criticising the Manager.

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Like I was when everyone was criticizing Ole na? Smh.

Y'all will just come up with different silly theories at different times. When did I even ever say the manager's currently doing well? Lmao.

Una on this thread ehhn.

larride:
Your brain must be leaking. Didnt we chop 3-0 in the previous match with the vital player on pitch for 90mins?

Was the vital player not on the pitch when this same Liverpool beat us 7-0 last season?

You get luck say na online you dey type all these take, go viewing center go yarn all these okpas, whether them no go give you community beating.

You're a stupid fellow tbh! Y'all will just pick up your phones and spew whatever dust you want to.

Is Bruno a vital player to United? Yes or No?
Was Bruno unavailable against Liverpool? Yes or No
Did we have other vital players missing against Liverpool? Yes or No.
Do teams that have vital players missing go into big games with different mindset or tactics or they do not?


Fvcking dumbo. Say na viewing center. So because Bruno dey on pitch when we lost to Bornemouth, his being unavailable along with other players didn't affect the gameplan going into this one abi? So many folks just like acting intentionally stupid on this thread.

larride:
Bruno played last game against Bournamount. Please tell us the final score.

We missed a vital player, yes or no? I don't care who played in which game.

afrodoc2:
ETH is suffering from a severe case of villagepeopleitis. Very bad disease. You will be doing things that are guaranteed to give you negative outcome.

He reportedly reacted really badly to getting dropped for Maguire in the Manchester derby. There has to repercussions for things like that and he got the bench for a few games. He then performed really badly when he was called upon few games later.

nitrogen:
Well, Ole did beat better teams in their turfs many times. So don’t say BS. The fact that it was Liverpool at Anfield does not mean another manager would not have beaten Liverpool today. They were shyte today. The last time they were not shyte, ETH chop 7:0.

When did he beat Liverpool at Anfield? That's the question. I don't care if he beat prime Barca. Liverpool was the team we played today.

We drew against Liverpool today and you said Ole would have won the game. Ole has played this same fixture at Anfield at different times and the best he's gotten is a goaless draw.

So stop saying things for the sake of it.

Bombblacks:
Just because I had low expectations doesn't mean I won't curse Mctominay when he misplaces a pass, castigate dalot for making a wrong decision, ask for Garnacho to be subbed out when he is not performing as expected, get Angry at Hojjund for misusing an opportunity and complain when we can't keep the ball for 3 mins. You don't see anyone complaining about the result.

You see that's real analysis of individual parts of the game. I've not said anything about anyone that said these things, have I?

Bombblacks:
Just because we had low expectations going into the match doesn't mean people can't complain when players makes wrong decisions, miss chances and can't string passes together for 2 mins.

If you expect us to get trashed 8-0. It's because you believe the fixture is a mismatch due to various reasons.

So if we end up playing negative football and end up with a draw, I find it funny you'd complain about stats or whatever.