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Mrviktor:
Onana always does this..

Fool

That's on Casemiro abeg.

Ellexy:
I'll say this is an indictment to the 2years he has spent training this team and bringing in his players. The time to make this assessment was in the first months or the first year of training this team but he did not.

His predecessor warned that the team needed an open heart surgery but Erik came in and discarded the man and his advice. He was bullish, making statements of bringing the eras of the dominant Pep and Klopp to an end. After 2 years with all the money spent, his eyes don clear. He's not a serious coach if you ask me.

If we've had an open heart surgery last 2 years, we'd probably be in a worse position. Given the way we've handled recruitment last 2 years.

We can talk about open heart surgery when Ratcliffe and overmars fully get in. You can't bring in a coach from Ajax and expect him to conduct an open heart surgery on the club.

swiz123:
So you guys robbed innocent Coventry city and moved on like it's nothing.

Thunder will fire everyone here. Thieves!!

No one's awarding Coventry an offside goal cuz they're underdogs. It doesn't work that way.

eph12:
I don't think Rashford has any fan left. We started complaining about Rashford long ago and many refused to see what was happening. But look at now, they have run out of excuses and will be happy to see Rashford go. Same thing will happen to ETH soon. Everyone will run out of excuses and will be happy to see ETH leave

Since you're drawing up comparisons in situations let me draw up this context.

We've got one manager since 2013. Under this same manager we've gotten 4 different left wingers at different times before Rashford. Each big name wingers at the top of their game then. And each ended up bad with a forced move from the club. Rashford starts playing badly the way the others in the past did. But difference is we have a new manager now. I reckon you'd give Rashford a chance under the new manager, yeah?

TrebleChamp:
This one will be crying behind the keyboard, yet be forming Ten Hag for life. No sensible United fan will be happy with bald fraud performance as manager except a troll....

The conclusions most of you draw from posts on here is really silly. Happens every time. You say A and someone tries to draw conclusions that fits useless agendas.

At no point did I say I was happy about the performance. Nothing in that post points to that. Infact I'm really pissed at the performance and wanted to walk away from before the shootout.

But I'm just surprised at how 100% of blames falls on the manager after these lots bottled a 3 goal lead against fvcking Coventry City. At how people see this match as a proof of anything apart from the fact that these players have been total cowards recently. And they need to get their heads straight asap.

Do these ones need special tactical instructions to see out a 3 goal lead?

Do they need a 19 years old Maino (that's starting a game in 3 days) to stay on the field for 90 minutes to see out a 3 goal lead?

Mrviktor:
Blaming a coach for an easy save
A deflected goal
A penalty is crazy..


Players are responsible for the collapse..not the coach.

Who should he have substituted.. ?

Garnacho should play 90 today when we are 3-0 up.
Nd have a game on Wednesday

The ones on this thread don't even surprise me anymore. Like the one-way thinking is so crazy. After every loss, no matter the situation, the next thing is sack the manager. Back to back FA cup finals and someone's saying this is the worst United team since SAF. Smh.

I didn't even read the previous pages just to spare myself the stress of reading the same nonsense about subs. Because I can already predict the way they reason here.

Fine, the first goal was good, but a deflected shot and a PK and we're here. They went into extra time on ascendancy. We went knowing fully well we were already an embarrassing set.

Ten Hag shares a part of the blame as well. Cuz how's the team this poor mentally. Is it PTSD from the Brentford/Chelsea game? Suspect it's more. That needs to be worked on.

Mrviktor:
We've never had this crazy amount of injury from the training pitch before... So this is to be blamed on the training structure...

Because we don't even see any play patterns on the pitch.. it's just garnacho and rashford running down the wing and shooting from impossible angles..

What exactly are they doing in training..

Malacia missed d whole season.
Shaw. Half the season
Lisandro...half the season.
Mount.. half the season.

Kilonshele gan gan

We've never had it before doesn't make us special. Okay, we now have it so it's just unfortunate.

If we're to blame training structure, I'm so sure there's no way in hell he drills this team more rigorously than he drilled his Ajax team. So if we're getting injuries because of the training, it says a lot about the team as a whole.

And if it's about playing style, all the names you mentioned never really even played the chaos football. The ones playing it are fit as hell. Garnacho and the likes.

MRTA7:
Story. At this point the club needs to look within to figure out why we are struggling so badly with injuries this season. Probably could have done some things different. You make your own luck.

Sometimes teams just get that sort of bad luck. Real Madrid had theirs just before Ancelloti. I think at one point they had only 9 senior players available for a match. Luckily for them, they were the top ones. Arsenal had a terrible season also. Liverpool had theirs last season.

But there are issues in our medical team that needs to be addressed though. I believe they take huge risks.

larride:
You think he will come to Utd and not try and bring in his own players?

Make una dey calm down now.

Lmao who are his players? Or the conversation is no longer about Zidane? Asensio and the likes? I'm genuinely curious.

But football fans can be very funny sometimes. Una no want defined style of play again? We can't be shouting about style of play while drawing examples with Klopp and Pep and in the same breathe be wanking to Zidane. Makes no sense.


And Zidane makes no sense for a club looking for a 'coach' role. Club that wants to sign low cost effective players from all over Europe not galaticos.

Zidane doesn't fit the criteria for the job. Doubt he's interested either.

Aturitoroman:
Benitez and co also failed with this same squad

Zidane had them at their very peak though. Modric literally was the best player at the world cup during his time.

But I'm not one of those that believe he was lucky though. Cuz he did really well on his return even with a weakened squad.

Mrviktor:
🚨🔴 Mason Mount, Sofyan Amrabat and Willy Kambwala miss Man United game vs Coventry due to injury.

It’s more than 60 separate cases of injury or illness for Man United this season.

This is crazy. If this was Liverpool or another club, the sympathy campaign on TV would be so crazy.

What's the manager supposed to build on with all these injuries. Really hope all of these badluck ends this season.

Posting a difference in the opinion of someone over 4-5 years and tagging it hypocrisy is sooo crazy😂😂. But what do I expect from Nairaland tbh.

The dedication that must have taken😂.

AdisaOwala:
Ole should be blamed for "wasting" 300m but when it comes to Ten hag the prodigal son, the DOF is at fault.

The hypocrisy of our resident îdiot is nauseating to say the least

So much for "objectivity"

Tueh!

😂Nigga went digging into my posts and found something from 4 years ago.

How is this simple thing so difficult for everyone to understand?

Van Gaal's , Jose and most of Mourinho's time no one really cared about anything past the manager. We didn't give a fvck about a DOF, didn't care about who the CEO was, didn't care about any sporting director.

Didn't all that change after he got sacked and we started looking into the real issues at the club. Why was everyone excited about Rangnick? Because of the interim position?

Digging through my posts of so many years just to look for one part in which I totally blamed a manager is sooooooo hilarious.

TrebleChamp:
It is also lack of structure that made Bayern Munich to underperform this season, the same bad structure gave Bald fraud the chance to sign his prefered players and the weyre sign Mount and co.
You have a useless manager in charge, 2 years not clear playing style, serving horrible footy that is worse than what Mourinho was vilified here for, but na structure you still dey shout.
You said here that you only supporting Rashford because others are criticising him, not minding the rubbish performance he has been serving the team. You are a troll bro, wear the badge with honour....

Lmao you've not challenged for the league in like 12 years, but you wan dey compare situation with Bayern that's underwhelmed only this year. Sometimes I wonder why I even bother.

As for the Rashford thing, let's start using our brain cells please. There are so many things I can criticize Ten Hag for each week. But you know why I never say anything against him here? Y'all overblow whatever mistakes he's made to the extent that you make most of our problems about it. So many fallacies and exaggeration that you end up defending them every single time.

You know what's funny? When these guys were doing well last year and me and most of the ones here were praising and hailing them, it was all good. Now everything went wrong the following season and everyone that's asking for them to be kicked out of the club is a troll? Lmao nigga please.

You'd hear 'he demanded to be in charge of transfers'. No him for leave Murtough and co to directly be in charge na. Same fvckers that brought in Casemiro as an option to Dejong.

Also ETH would have demanded the same thing at any club, but guess the only club that was going to give him full control.

We were all screaming for a DOF and a competent structure then. It was only after it became evident we weren't getting one, I actually started to back the idea of ETH signing players. Just one singing that summer those ones made and it was still a Woodward type of signing.

Spent months here screaming about the structure and how we needed to hire competent people. Someone here literally said I wanted Ten Hag to fail. I reposted it here recently.

After everything I said happened, you expect me to totally ignore all that and turn on the manager?

TrebleChamp:
You think?
The day he said United shouldn't have given Ten Bald power to sign his own kind of players was it for me.
Fans wailed for years that Glazers are not backing the managers enough after spending over a billion pounds ooh, they said Managers should be allowed to identify and sign players who will fit their style of play. United finally did that by giving Ten Bald (who actually demanded for full control) the control to sign his own players, yet a troll said he shouldn't have been given such control. United should have told the bald fraud "no" and then he wont sign for the Club, so this same troll and his likes will come here to blame Glazers again for making us miss out on a good manager by not accepting his terms.
Na una get time to waste debating Ten Bald terrible performance with trolls, Ole's team wasn't this horrible....

Omo, you guys ehhn. Make I no just talk wetin dey my mind.

From the very beginning, some of us here fvcking said it. So spare us the fvcking bullshit.

What did I say when we let go of Rangnick? What did I say when it became evident Ten Hag was in charge of transfers? What did I say about the DOF and a competent recruitment team?

People legit trolled me and said I didn't want Ten Hag to succeed when we were pointing these things out in the beginning but I said managers should what?

Please if you don't know me or anything I've stood for on this thread, don't comment on anything related to me abeg. It's actually annoying.

patrickmuf:
Baba, the kind things wey I don read for here this night weak me. Christo was waiting for his other band members for him to show face and start doing his pro bono services. You'll never find him here on a match day or a day after...I think he is a troll...

Y'all are saying anything at this point. Some of us got busy schedules. I'm sure you do as well. I've been here on matchdays whenever I'm free. And I'm absent whenever I'm busy. Doesn't matter if we win or not.

I wasn't here after Liverpool's game but I was after Brentford. With the way you people try to portray me, you'd think it'd be there other way around. Don't be silly abeg.

Nagelsmann to Bayern
Amorim to Liverpool

If we wanted to sack ETH, we would have made an announcement, I believe. Or these ones are truly after Southgate?

Mrviktor:
Tenhag don calm down unlike last season.. when if u mess up..u are out..
Disciplinary master..

He no get option na. He'll have to wait till the summer if he survives. I need that ruthlessness.

MRTA7:
My only issue with this is that the players he has brought in for lots of money are barely any better.

He should never have had that power in the first place. Ajax is a far smaller club compared to United but he wasn't even recruiting players there. How's he now doing it at a club like United.

It sounds like I'm making excuses for him but I was saying these things in the beginning when I didn't like him.

Ellexy:
This your faith in Ten Hag is really strong. I don't have that faith anymore, if they sack him I won't miss him.

Having said that, he still has a year left in his contract, INEOS might let him stay. According to Ornstein it's still undecided. Looking forward to the massive clear out in the summer.

FIRST SET
Martial
Varane
Casemiro
Eriksen
Sancho
Amrabat

2ND SET
Rashford
Mctominay
AWB
Maguire
Shaw.

One thing I'm sure of is the cycle will continue if Ten Hag gets sacked. The new manager will come in and check out these players. And most of them will over perform again. I don't care how stubborn the manager is, you'll be fooled. You won't see Rashford banging in goals and say you want him gone. Shaw will look like prime Roberto Carlos again.

The only person they can't fool is Ten Hag. He's seen them over 2 years.

eph12:
What most actually want is what looks like a plan or actually a plan. Something we can build on going into the next season.

Do you think the manager is not a part of this structure and helpless?

Let's be realistic. We've still got things to fight for this season. We'll play the best way we probably can to get us across the line. Season's been all about survival for a while now.

How's the manager a part of this shit structure we've had for more than 10 years now?

How can anyone watch Ten Hag at Ajax, know his history, his style of play prior to coming to United and then believe this man loves the football on display week in week out.

Y'all were literally calling him Ole pro max cuz we first started out playing really defensive with counter attacks then switch things up recently to real chaos. Isn't it obvious he's just tryng to get through this shit of an unlucky season?

This man deserves time under this new structure. Deserves time to build with a team that's not totally riddled with injuries. Deserves time to build without any distractions from Ronaldo to Greenwood to Sancho to Club takeover. All in less then 2 years. United job is a nightmare tbh.

eph12:
@lekkie073 how long do you think is enough to wait and see us play a good game considering we're not stuck in 1990 and can't be making reference to that era? Every other team is moving and moving fast, so how long? Remember we're not even talking about winning trophies or contesting for trophies, like just have a good game consistently.

Just one or two years under a good structure is what most of us are even asking for.

It's not even difficult but most just want that new excitement that comes with getting a new manager.

lekkie073:
this shows that you don't have a functional thought process. You will support whoever is coming, then go on to disprove of such if things go south.

Its so easy to sit on a chair and brandish solutions to problems that you are not adept at solving. The last time we discussed this was when OLe left. Ragnick came and you were all over place with optimism until the reality of the situation dawned and you embarked on a crying session.

TEN HAGG came and your optimism level rose, all for it to go south again when the reality of the situation dawned again.

For how long are you going to toe this line of increased-optimism-turned-crying?

Let me tell you what you should just know. Eras come to an end. And it takes a while for a once glorious club to reach its peak again, especially when competition becomes intensified.

The glory years of Liverpool came and gone. The club is trying to bring it back, not successful yet.

The glory years of arsenal as a contending force (under Arsene) came and gone, the club is still trying to replicate such, and it might come soon.

The glory years of Chelsea came with Abrahamovich/Jose. Right now, the club is a shadow of what it used to be.

The glory years of Manchester United came with fergie and ended with him. We are trying all possibilities to get it back, which would not be easy too.

We are in the glory years of Manchester city/Guardiola. It will not last forever, but it will take its rightful course.


No matter how hard we try, there is a high possibility that arsenal will win the epl before manutd in the event of Mancity's eventual decline.


But you may not accept all these because you have been used to seeing winning trophies as an exclusive right of Manchester United. It is not.


Any world class manager with a sense of pride will run away from managerial role in Manchester United because they know it is a hot seat that can put a blemish on their rich managerial profile. To assemble an unbeatable team ( right manager and right players simultaneously) is not a matter of one or two seasons.

If you are blessed with a manager with a proven record and such is not performing in two seasons, calling for his head will only amount to starting all over again. Reflect back on the early seasons of Jurgen klopp finishing in mid table. There are many more indices that can be used to understand the present predicament of the club, not just focusing on the managerial roles alone.

❤️

Mrviktor:
How did he trow garnacho under the bus..
Just because he said that side was very porus.

Nawah oh..

Na fans dey spoil players sha.

What of vangal that called Smalling stupid for getting red card against mancity

Very annoying stuff tbh.

They don't know what they're encouraging is a situation the manager walks into the press conference scared to say anything that might get linked negatively to any player. Player power pro max.

How many people here paid attention to what was even said before Garnacho foolishly liked those tweets.

Was Ten Hag's comments about Garnacho a little harsh? Probably? But every manager make such mistakes once in a while. But at United, once the manager is struggling, these ones will go straight to social media to express opinions. And fans will lick it up as long as it's their faves.

That foolish Amad has been subtly acting like a brat on social media for sometime now. He just never makes it obvious.

Only reason I fear this 'coaching role' thing at United. Player power will move to a whole new level.

Mrviktor:
But he had to.

They could have really been 6-0 ahead of they were clinical in the first half..
That wing was very open..

Let's stop defending players..

If he wasn't fit he wouldn't play.
If he said he wasn't up to speed .he wouldn't play..

They'll never understand. It's the same every single time. Reason these players act the way they do.

If they didn't think the fans will indulge such stupid behavior why would Sancho make that foolish post the other day. Why would Garnacho like those posts he liked just after that match? Why would Amad make posts that looks like he's making subliminal digs?

Jokerman:
🚨 Erik ten Hag walks out of press conference when asked about Man United's worst Premier League finish in history.

@BeanymanSports 🎥

😂😂😂

Press conference had ended. He was getting up to leave when that question was asked. But everyone will skip past that.

maik99:
Bro?
There’s literally a video where he’s being grilled and he gives his take on the issue

Then post link to the video na. Rather than post a picture. You can post pictures of sff scenarios to push different agendas.

I can say we play ultra defensive and bring out a picture in which all our players are camped in the box at the moment to push the agenda.

Btw, Ten Hag was heavily grilled by the Dutch media in his earlier years at Ajax mostly because of the transition aspect he was adding to their football. They all ended up shutting up though.