eph12:

If tomorrow ETH rates Amad, Chris will rate him too. He only rates the players ETH rates

It's actually very funny because for months here y'all kept yapping and yapping about how Ten Hag's the next best thing after SAF. It actually took long for me to warm up to the guy and actually appreciate him.

Na me una wan come portray in a certain type of way.

Sebi na here we dey when we had lengthy arguments about James Garner lmao. If you're good, you'll get your chance.

maik99:


Even if he does not reward it, the point remains

It's all about patience. If he's cut for it, he'll get his chance and take it. Remember Maino early this season. Man's now starting every single game. People were crying about Garnacho not staring earlier this season. Some are now saying he should be rotated. Every manager wants his best players on the pitch.

Tbh, I don't rate Amad that highly. Never did. Probably the reason I find it easier to understand. I hope I'm wrong like I was about Maino. Thought he was a good player that needed to be eased into the team gradually. But man's actually something extremely special.

maik99:


By how much is Garnacho better than Amad? I don’t see any reason why they can’t share minutes instead of overplaying Garnacho. Amad is even the one who is a natural RW. That Una coach daft

😂😂United fans Sha. Hope Amad rewards y'all for all the faith shown when he gets the chance.

Joezinho:


Hey Chris, what makes you think Amad can’t win him over on the training ground?

I believe he'd be playing more games if he truly was impressive to ETH on the training ground. What did you think Forson did to deserve that start after just one appearance.

When people here fall out with a manager, they'll have you believe he's the worst and shouldn't even be managing at high school level. That's the reason trying to say there's a reason certain decisions are being made makes one look like a fool.

Joezinho:
Once again , kudos to Amad Diallo. He made two blocks that led to the third goal and also his goal.

I feel ten hag was sent to completely destroy man utd. Useless coach. Even if he wins the FA cup, that man should be chased away from carrington.

If you can't win over the manager on the training ground, you win him over on the pitch.

Forson didn't start a game after Hojlund's injury just because he's a finer shade of black. He was obviously doing something right in training.

I'm glad Amad was able to at least show something on the pitch. Though i doubt he'll start games with Hojlund back. Best front 3 still remain Rashford, Hojlund, Garnacho.

Lana1:
See as we setup like 100 level team. Omo

Lmao everyone sending this particular scenario from the 31st minute just to prove one point.

So many people so deep into their Anti-Ten hag sentiments that they can't even truly appreciate wins anymore.

eph12:

Now that I think of it, they actually did but ETH and his boys were superior

Don't know if you're trying to be sarcastic. We needed it more. Matched their passion and everything. And we got the victory.

Don't know why a United fan will try to downplay everything by saying they probably didn't take it seriously.

eph12:


Then they must have seriously underrated Manchester united. I don't think they put a lot of thoughts into today's game

They didn't put a lot of thought into a knockout game against United at Old Trafford lmao?

Una sometimes ehhn

GGMU

Huge win tonight. Huge win for Ten Hag.

Definitely helps a lot in keeping his job ☺️☺️

Back to back FA cup finals. Hopefully we get to win this one.

Leyqute:


Ten Hag is not without his own faults. He asked for specific powers before he signed and then completely fvcked up an already fvcked up situation with that power. How else would you explain the unnecessary cash splashed on Antony and co?

For me, his coaching acumen and pedigree looks okay. But overestimating his ability to bring in the right players for his style casts shadows on his deductive abilities as a manager and as a human being.

Would he had gotten the same power if he had gone to a Newcastle or Bayern?

Any manager would want that type of power. It's the dolts that gave it to him you should blame. I mentioned it here that time. How can you bring in a manager from Ajax that had no experience of bringing in talents and expect him to suddenly develop that ability?

Apart from that, Murtough's answer to missing out on De Jong was Casemiro. That says a lot. We probably would be in the same situation if Ten Hag wasn't given the power.

eph12:

We just need the players to show more zeal and the coach should stop making light of the situation. We're in a terrible situation, and he needs to show it. Moreover he is not the only ones with injuries. Whatever the case is, this current team with all the injuries can do better. You have to accept that

Do you remember people used to tackle me seriously whenever I brought up injuries as an explanation to what was happening?

Everyone's now calmed down with that. They now kinda accept it. What do you think is the reason?

It's because they saw us get Martinez, Shaw back and then saw us actually start doing something. We had our biggest win all season just 2 games or so after we got Martinez back. The problem is clear but people want someone punished for this terrible season. So they automatically go after the manager.

So we probably should be doing better in all aspects. But given the circumstances, I'm more lenient on the manager.

eph12:

We just need the players to show more zeal and the coach should stop making light of the situation. We're in a terrible situation, and he needs to show it. Moreover he is not the only ones with injuries. Whatever the case is, this current team with all the injuries can do better. You have to accept that

Do you remember people used to tackle me seriously whenever I brought up injuries as an explanation to what was happening?

Everyone's now calmed down with that. They now kinda accept it. What do you think is the reason?

It's because they saw us get Martinez, Shaw back and then saw us actually start doing something. We had our biggest win all season just 2 games or so after we got Martinez back.

eph12:

LOL I have not even started hammering on playing style. What we have right now is a lot of laziness, no coordination, some players all over the place that we don't know what exact role or position they're playing, sacred cows, scapegoats etc. Bro we have not gotten to playing style yet, relax.

That's what you get when you've got a disjointed team. We're at survival mode at this point.

Can you imagine Lindelof might be our left back for the rest of the season. The clueless medical team told Ten Hag he'd have 2 fit left backs in January. Reason we let Reguilon go.

AdisaOwala:


On numerous occasions here, there have been attempts to forcefully redefine the job description of a modern day football manager...

Whether it is a deliberate attempt to push an agenda or maybe it's just some form of knowledge gap, it remains unclear...

ETH singlehandedly chased a "whole" CR7 out of the club but we are to wait for the board to initiate a clear out for the manager

Okay o

ETH did what?

Ronaldo got himself out of the club. ETH did nothing.

Are people now saying they'd be happy if we were languishing in 12th but playing good footy and bossing possession stats.

I've watched enough Chelsea games to know this is a huge lie. In reality, results matters.

I can't look at that backline, then watch Casemiro, Mctominay and Bruno do their thing, then delude myself that the manager should be playing good footy while getting the results.

After 2 years, with 400m spent, we should have have a better squad, right? But mistakes were made. Good thing is we can step into the future confidently with this manager because we now have one of the best structures in Europe.

One reason I'm even super confident Ten Hag is staying is I've seen people go through managerial options and no one on the list is that special. Not one.

eph12:

No he won't. He was hired to come and clean up the team and make the team play a certain way. Nobody is dumb enough to expect that and also expect us to compete for major trophies in the first two seasons.

Its delusional to think we will make top 4 playing like this. That can only happen if the other teams around us suffer some serious injuries or point deductions.

We had a good first season by all standards and was supposed to build on that this season. But how's one supposed to build on anything with the amount of injuries we've had this season?

You keep hammering on playing style. Why are you dancing around the fact that we'd be languishing somewhere around 13th if we had tried anything else apart from being realistic?


The biggest indictment on Ten Hag is recruitment. That's the reason a few injuries drastically reduces the technical quality on the field. But thank God the whole structure is changing.

eph12:

He should leave top 4 and work on the team. He was never going to lose his job if he didn't make top 4 last season and didn't win the Carabao. If he loses his job this season, its not going to be because he didn't make top 4 if he doesn't.

He should have started by making his team run more. They should have been made to put more effort. Anyone that can't, bin away. He had enough goodwill to ride that storm and come out top

Haha I read somethings sometimes and laugh. 'Anyone that's can't run more should be binned'. In a team devastated by injuries o.

Btw, you're totally wrong about the stakes.

If we continue playing like this and make top 4, he'll most likely keep his job.

If we try playing good football and finish 10th, he gets the sack.

eph12:

I think the emphasis is on how they play and not the result. That they don't get the desired result when they have injuries is a different conversation. This is more about how the team plays when key players get injured

They were playing well last season. But still missed out of top for even when they had players back towards the end and went on a winning streak. They missed out on top 4.

And that's even a team that's been drilled for years to play that way.

But attempt to play the same with the team options we've had so far this season and we'd be languishing in 14th. And no one would care about any beautiful style of play.

It's one thing to blame Ten Hag for bad recruitment that has us relying on bums. But trying to say we should be playing beautiful football with Mctominay,Casemiro and co while actively chasing top 4 is funny.

Just finished watching 'Sharp objects'.

Damn!!!!!!

This is one I'll think about for days. Great and intriguing show. Not really a fan of dark thrillers unless it's totally about criminal investigation but I stayed glued to this one. Absolutely loved it.

patrickmuf:
I am not a Ronaldo stan but what exactly does Ole mean when he says we were one of the best pressing teams?

We all complained back then about the lack of coordination in our play so, what exactly does Ole mean? At what point were we a pressing team let one of the best?

Lol just interpreted it as 'we were one of the best transition teams'. Damn, I remember how dangerous we were on the break. It was so crazy. Last thing we needed was a Ronaldo.

But I understand. Woodward and co saw Ronaldo was available and could potentially sign for rivals. We had to protect that United legacy. And Ole just couldn't say no.

Jodera:
Admittedly he went overboard with that "pressing" thingy (or maybe he has his own definition of pressing) but one thing that I can deduce from his talks is that the presence of Ronaldo changed most of the plans he had entering into that season. Ronaldo might have got the goals but then to Ole, the way he would have loved the teams to have set up that season is not the way it panned out

Exactly!

And it's not even difficult. This thing we repeated here again and again and some were tagged 'Ronaldo haters' on this thread even till today.

That's why I'm just really excited about the new structure were implementing now. We should never try that type of mistake in future.

So De Zerbi actually got piped today again 😂.

And man's a good coach o. Just doesn't have the personnel to fit into what he's trying.

Makes me wonder how Pep would've turned out if he had to build up from a mid-table team.

The main argument here for almost a year was about Ronaldo's effect at United.

The manager then spoke extensively on it, but look at them totally side-stepping the main-topic😂😂. This thread ehhn..

odizeey:


If I check well enough, I'll see you saying Ronaldo was forced on him by the board.

Lmao. Definitely not spending time arguing this, after getting called different types of names for months for pointing the effects of Ronaldo on the team only for Ole to confirm everything we said.

Go leave main arguments for months come latch on side-comments lol. Nibo.

Smartguyboy:

And you think white are not racist like that ?

Lmao that thing looks totally fake. People can be vile racists but that chat looks manufactured. Doesn't look like a real conversation.

odizeey:
So Ole wanted Ronaldo.

Those people wey dey recruitment team here, how fa.

No one's ever said Ole didn't want him. They gave him the option and he said yes. Like he said, so many other clubs were interested in him. He wasn't going to allow him go there.

It was a huge mistake on his part Sha.

Just saw Ole's interview and the things he said about Ronaldo lmao. We used to say the exact things he said here and people called us names for months. It's hilarious.

Leyqute:
I remember when some peeps here were dissing Hojlund when we were playing poorly.

Man has entered double figures in goals this season now

Lmao don't mind them. Dem no dey waste time at all. Especially when Kane score those goals back to back.

patrickmuf:
It's only God who knows the end from the beginning. There's nothing like flip-floppy, if you support a manager based on his past achievements and records and he is hired but ends up not delivering, you have every right to call for his sack. It is this line of thought of yours that makes folks stick to their position in any debate regardless of what is put before them.

Go to Chelsea's thread and you find guys arguing unending even in the face of superior argument just because they don't want it to seem they're flip-flopping...A layman would be forgiven for rejecting the notion that the same man that coached Ajax to play that brand of high-octane pressing and wonderful possession football is the same person coaching the present United. For anyone to keep supporting a player or coach because they don't want to come across as flip-flopping, then that person is a clown.

Bro, read exactly what I said and don't form your own wrongful interpretation. I'll make a quote.

"How can I hail the manager as superb and wonderful and say he's the next best thing on planet earth and then switch in few months to say he's a clown that deserves to be killed?"

Up there is what I said. 👆👆👆. Do you get it now?

It's one thing to say you don't support the manager and can't see what he's doing. But how can you go from hyping up a manager to that level of toxicity in few months. That's flip-flopping whether you like it or not.

Saying a manager is clueless is different from saying he's a clown that deserves to be killed. Except you're the type that throws words around carelessly.

eph12:
See them running around, talking bad about Bruno because expert17 is not here to drop facts

😂. Will never turn against Bruno Sha. I'll always appreciate those first 2 seasons. Never seen a team get so invigorated by the addition of one single player.

CapitalCee:


Bruno is looking finished. Time to move him to Arabia We are watching closely

I'm his biggest fan but man's been awful for months. Don't understand.