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Why didn't Buhari release same money to Fayoshe?

Playing politics with human life

BluntBoy:
Angels are messengers but not all messengers are pastors.

You are using the word "implied".

I asked for proofs, you are implying.

Even Bible commentaries are divided on the issue. People can only imply.

If the angels were pastors, how come pastors have not adopted the title. Which pastor (especially these vain so-called pastors) would rather use the title "pastor" when they can use the title "angel"

Oga use your brain at least!

If you are writing a letter to an entire church, do you address it to a "gate man or to the pastor in charge?"

You know the obvious truth, but seems you just want to argue?

Do you know more than Apostle Paul who appointed Pastors in every church he established?

[quote author= post=74020473]BEAUTIFUL SCENES from Nigeria's most populous state!

Nigeria is blessed....may God help us to destroy and flush out every enemies of the nation, no matter the part of the country they hail from!

GOD BLESS NIGERIA [/quote]When did it become most popular state ?

Have they cloned your brain finish?

morningstar55:
You open a nice thread like this...only to spoil with it politics

Las las ...everything comes down to politics.

Policies of politicians affects your life positively or otherwise. You can't avoid mentioning it

duni04:
See this one waiting for me to help him check google! What fact to counter? Buhari said our reserves are $42billion, that is fact! If that bastard wendell simlin has succeded in emptying our reserves overnight, thats between you and him. Buhari was spot on on eceryrhing he said! Google is your friend oga!

What rubbish external reserve, does foreign reserve put food on your table.

Haven't you heard that 20.million people are out of jobs and you here talking reserve.?

Do you know how many country with lesser reserve but are far better than Nigeria in every economic indicator?

eyeview:
Reno! You can insult him but you can't dispute his facts

Is your brain frozen?

He has disputed him with facts , why not counter with superior facts or go lick Buhari's cow dung

Stop been unfortunate!

Sweetguy25:
One of the backstabbing politicians GEJ trusted.

One of those who drank tea with Jonathan in the morning and ate Suya with Buhari in the Night

BluntTheApostle:
And what is the proof that the "Angels" were pastors?

I am not denying spiritual authority but how do you relate spiritual authority to order?

Are you trying to say that John the Baptist had spiritual authority over Jesus the Christ?

Taking care of a flock does not mean you have spiritual authority over them. Or perhaps, you can show me where spiritual authority was mentioned in the New Testament?

Who else could the Angels be?

Bro go read biblical commentary on the issue and come back

Check up the meaning of "the Angel" as implied in reference Bible, hope you know how to use a reference Bible

Let me help you out

Revelation 3:1
"And to the 1 Angel of the church in Sardis write"

That is exactly what is in my reference Bible, take note of the bolded figure "1" before the Angel...my reference Bible would point you to 1tim6:20 which reads thus...
"O Timothy !" Which is to explain that Christ was referring to a Pastor as a symbol of authority just as Timothy was a designated pastor in charge of a church , appointed under the leadership of Apostle Paul

Compare and contrast

Tinubu vs Buhari

Tinubu has seen his match

hisgrace090:
Naija wahala too much not small.


So this folks are now rejecting constant power supply which everyone is praying for? Here in the south east many people still get light ones a week from eedc.

They are right... constant power without prepaid meter is fraud.
It should be pay as you go.

If you travel out of the vicinity for 1year and back...they would still bring their God forsaken bill.

That is criminal

IgweBUIKE1:
yes ....buh Christ himself never pay tithe

I have already addressed that.

Read up my post.

Christ clearly admonish giving to Cesaer what is Cesaer ( tax which he did)and giving to God what is God's.
Do you now think that CHRIST didn't" give to God what's God's... which should include Tithe?

Thinking out loud!

IgweBUIKE1:
buh Christ teaching is clear sir....John 13v34n35..tithe has taken the centre stage of Christ teachings than love and beside in what context was tithe preached in the scripture?

Then we should condemn those making tithe central issue than love. We shouldn't condemn tithe because of it

BluntTheApostle:
There are different versions of what Paul wrote.

One version reads (New Living Version) : Now these are the gifts Christ gave to the church: the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, and the pastors and teachers

Since we all have gifts, why do you think because someone has the gift of teaching, he has spiritual authority over someone who does not have that particular gift?

Remember that the essence of Paul's message is to emphasize gifts and how they are to be used. A pastor cannot build a church alone just like an eye cannot say it doesn't need the neck. Every part of a body is important.

Still talking about Spiritual authorities...

2timothy 3:1 This is a faithful saying: If a man desires the position of a bishop, he desires a good work.

3:2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, temperate, sober-minded, of good behavior, hospitable, able to teach;

3:3 not given to wine, not violent, not greedy for money, but gentle, not quarrelsome, not covetous;

3:4 one who rules his own house well, having his children in submission with all reverence

3:5 (for if a man does not know how to rule his own house, how will he take care of the church of God?);

I mentioned Revelation 3 earlier, you didn't respond to it as well. Jesus clearly asked John to write letters that were specifically address to Spiritual authorities called Angels in the book of Revelation 3.

Jesus was the King of Kings and yet he allowed a John the Baptist to pabtize him, isn't that clearly that he too recognized"SPIRITUAL AUTHORITY and order?"

labanj1:
Pls show me where it includes money? All examples of tithes in the bible were crops.

You are simply saying money is not part of " honor the Lord with your substance and first fruit of your increase?"

Or you are saying money was not a measure of value during their days?

Jesus says "give to Cesaer what is Cesaer's and to God what is God's" and you think your money is not part of "what's God's?"

We have a generation who gladly " gives God the Credit but not the Cash ?

Your argument is no more about paying Tithe but the content of the Tithe...you want me to carried Yam , Cassava and Ewedu leafs and present as tithe when I am not a famer?

BluntTheApostle:
@ Chukazu,

I replied your post with my main account and got banned. I don't know what I did.

In your post to me, you mentioned spiritual authority.

What do you understand by spiritual authority? It appears like you are confusing church hierarchy with spiritual hierarchy. You think that since a pastor teaches, he has spiritual authority over his listeners.

No, bro. If you think that pastors have spiritual authority over you, then you must see yourself as inferior to a pastor before God.

Listen, every believer has spiritual authority, especially over the Devil. The pastor teaches the flock and prepares them for the work of ministry.

As for the verse about apostles, evangelists, etcetera, that verse is not actually as straightforward as you may think and it is even well-debated. It is one of the most debated verses in the Bible schools I attended.

The same goes for Revelation. Interpretations are not as easy as you make them.

@boldeld ...you can't read the books of Timothy and Titus and still talk about debating the passage.

Apostle Paul was clear on Spiritual authorities and order in the church

BTW sorry for ban on your account

BluntBoy:
Who was a priest and who is a pastor?

A priest offered sacrifices to God on behalf of the children of Israel. There were places he could enter that no one else could enter. God, was in the real sense, only accessible to him. But through Christ's Sacrifice, God is now accessible to everyone. We no longer need earthly priests. Christ is now the High Priest and it is only through Him that we can have access to God. So, how can you be mocking Christ's Sacrifice on the Cross by saying that pastors are today's priests?

Now, who is a pastor? The appropriate word is shepherd or teacher. His duty is to teach the Word to new converts and bring them up for the work of the ministry that God has entrusted in the hands of every of his children.

However, pastors can be likened to priests. But not just pastors. Every believer is a priest. Not a priest of the Levitical Order who collected and received tithes. We are a new priesthood offering sacrifices to God through the High Priest who is our Lord Jesus Christ.

You can offer sacrifices in many ways such as helping the needy, propagating the gospel, teaching the gospel to new converts and even participating in programs that promote peace in your community.

If we go by this assumptions thus this scriptures would be none avoid.

3:1 “And to the angel of the church in Sardis write, ‘These things says He who has the seven Spirits of God and the seven stars: “I know your works, that you have a name that you are alive, but you are dead. Rev3

Ephesians
4:11 And He Himself gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, and some pastors and teachers,

4:12 for the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ,

We are indeed all priest, with Christ as our high priest but that does not in any way remove the position of Spiritual authority in Churches.the "Angels" been referred to are" priesthood authorities"in those churches

IgweBUIKE1:
tithe ain't the weightier matter of the Lord....love is ...who told you money is the only tithe you can pay? love is supreme bro

Love is the weighier matter, but doesn't cancel the other .

The problem is if we then make tithe the weighier matter.

labanj1:
It indicates tithing of crops(mint, anise and cummin) and not money as propagated by the church today.

No.the passage Clearly shows that they give tithe of all things and all things includes#money

Vote wisely!

don't vote "Iberibeism

Simiano:
Most of u don't know the differences between celestial and C&S...
Celestial only make use of white candles...no other colour and they don't wear foot wears... opposite to C&S

Not true...

haladadon:
cele are fetish

More than your own church?

GavelSlam:
Why then did Jonathan kill Zakzaky's children?

Don't be unfortunate generation... just condemn the act and shut up... don't drag Jonathan to it

Mathew 23:23 clearly approves of tithe , and that is new testament, I don't know what Freez is saying again?

One of his argument was that it doesn't exist in new testament

When did Lobi win the league?

When was the league ended?

How do we expect Our clubs to do well when there is no ongoing league competition?

Election materials

Yen yen yen

This mumu keep saying "mager"...

Such a disgraceful spoilt chicken

IamJames:
Eniola Akinkuotu, Abuja

President Muhammadu Buhari has ordered the Statistician-General of the National Bureau of Statistics, Dr. Yemi Kale, to change the high unemployment statistics and reflect the rising rate of employment in the agriculture sector.

The Senior Special Assistant to the President on Media and Publicity, Mallam Garba Shehu, said this on Sunrise Daily, a programme on Channels Television.

Shehu said during a recent meeting with the Federal Executive Council, Kale admitted that the NBS was only focusing on the creation of white collar jobs and not the agriculture sector and the informal sector.

He said the President subsequently told him to go and admit his error to members of the public and make appropriate changes.

When asked why job losses were being recorded, Shehu said, “There was a departure last week. The NBS chief had addressed the federal cabinet and he made the admission himself that they had concentrated analysis over time on white collar jobs and they had not taken cognisance of job creation in areas of agriculture.

“Rice Producers Association of Nigeria made the open claim and nobody has challenged them up until the time that we speak, that they had created 12 million new jobs.

“When he finished addressing the federal cabinet last week, the government asked the DG of the NBS, go out there and tell the Nigerian public, you are just saying to us now that Jigawa, Zamfara, Kebbi and Ebonyi are recording the lowest unemployment rates in the country on account of agriculture.

“So, the point is that the data collected which has formed judgement on the data that have been passed and misleading and I think there is now a convergence. The data has been unfair to the administration, it had ignored job creation in the areas of agriculture but that is now being integrated and Nigerians will be impressed.”

However, a spokesman for the Abubakar Atiku Campaign Organisation, Mr. Phrank Shuaibu, who was on the programme, lambasted Shehu, accusing the Presidency of attempting to alter job statistics on the eve of elections.

Shuaibu said, “The National Bureau of Statics came for EFC meeting and according to the President’s spokesman, the man admitted that he miscalculated. That is an agency funded by government, not an agency sponsored by any international organisation.

“He has forgotten that this is not 1984. 2015 is not 1984. The world has gone digital but because they are operating an analogue system of government, they don’t know that even a 10-year-old can use the internet to find out statistics.

“When the NBS came out with the figures about loss of jobs and how it was affecting the economy, nobody came out to defend the government. But just as the certificate issue was managed, they have pushed the DG to the villa and obviously dictated to him what he should say.

“You cannot say that a government that is in power, the DG of NBS reeled out statistics, you did nothing to him, many months after and because elections are here, on the eve of elections, he is summoned to FEC and is asked to generate new figures. That is a fallacious tale and an affront on the sensibilities of Nigerians and they should apologise to us.”

Incidentally, the NBS has failed to release the statistics on unemployment for over a year, citing lack of funds as the reason.

However, the opposition has always insisted that the Presidency had ordered the agency not to release the figures until after elections.

https://punchng.com/buhari-has-asked-nbs-to-change-statistics-on-unemployment-rate-presidency/amp/

The man in question has debunked such nonsense. He affirmed that all the sectors were captured

Which year is Buhari celebrating...

Bunch of Fraud

Lewis Hamilton should have won it... don't know the criteria for this joke

If only you are using the brain to think something better apart from lying...

[quote author= post=73897942]Lol , customer daada and all this his emotional and crude way of campaigning sef.
They actually out on APC uniform to go and vandalised his campaign billboards?
Well, only the same set of dumb people that believe a 75years old man is cloned will will believe that .
Guess it was this same street urchin that made him a leap year candidate for the last donkey years!
Sanwo-Olu carry go, the next Governor of Lagos state...Insha Allah!


How foolish and brain dead can one be?

Aisha Buhari , the wife who knows Buhari more than anybody has declared to who cares to listen that Buhari is not in charge...but you , a nonetheless still come online on top 50 naira every day to " shout Sai baba?"

Is your brain paining you

Seun, Mynd44, OAM4J......Rule 2!

We don't do gutter languages nor are we going to come lownto to these kinda people level here, we will remain civil in this public forum as always...
Lalasticlala, take note of this especially!

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Modify: By the way, which lucky member of the forum will give us President MUHAMMADU BUHARI official birthday thread tomorrow jor?!
You will get a very special gift from us.
Guys, start working towards that!
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