₦airaland Forum

Nutter:
This Chxta. Are you on drugs or something?

I must hand it to the British, they have some interesting variants of what we call paraga back home. . .

TayoD:
@Afam,

Where did you find me support the US or Bush blanketly? Haven't I pointed out the fact that the US is imperialist? Or must I condemn the US totally because you do?

There is never a situation in life where a man or nation gets better until they take therir future in their hands and chart a course for themselves. Blaming the US is an escapist strategy and it will never bring about the desired change.

This one here would be a good example.

Nutter:
Meanwhile, why are you always having a go at Ono? When I write, I try my best to present only the facts. It is these facts that Ono agrees with and not necessarily me. There is a difference. Moreover, what does it matter who presents the facts? Me, Ono, Mickey Mouse, or even, you? The focus should be on the facts and not on extraneous matters. Try to see that and stop(!) making this personal. You are giving off the impression that you hold a grudge.

And how am I making it personal when I showed here (there are many other instances which time would not permit me to delve into) that I never start the personal attacks. But it really makes having a discussion irritating when people (like Ono) begin to call me names instead of having an enlightened banter like we do, you and I. The focus in my dialogues with you have remained facts, or has it not?

I think you got really exposed by your: “it would be the same set of individuals running the show” refrain. If breakaway nations will not work because of these people, how then can nigeria? Tut, tut, tut.

Half full bottle, half empty bottle. Let me throw back the question at you: Nigeria is not working because of these individuals, how then would the break away nations?

@ Afam, may I ask you to be still? There is no need for further carrying on in this thread. Let me repeat myself:

Afam:
Bush has no business in governance and he is responsible for the increase in hatred against the West especially the US based on his hypocrisies and double standards.

We need more courageous leaders like Chavez and the president of Iran even though I disagree with him on the destruction of Israel.

Funny enough, a free and fair democracy brought the Hamas government into power and yet the West does not like that type of democracy, a democracy that does not take instructions from the white house or 10 downing street.

This thread should really have ended here!

Afam:
Bush has no business in governance and he is responsible for the increase in hatred against the West especially the US based on his hypocrisies and double standards.

We need more courageous leaders like Chavez and the president of Iran even though I disagree with him on the destruction of Israel.

Funny enough, a free and fair democracy brought the Hamas government into power and yet the West does not like that type of democracy, a democracy that does not take instructions from the white house or 10 downing street.

This thread should really have ended here. . .

Jesus!

Me and Nutter on the same ship? Wow. Wake me up when September ends. . .

Make I yarn?

I will try to service this thread more due to Esquire's demand. Any questions you have on Ubuntu Linux, throw them here. I'll answer to the best of my ability.

But please I may not be too regular. I am currently a student, and holding a job as well, so time is a premium.

It is a very simple thing. Before you become a priest you are given the low down. Become a priest and forget about sex. This Milingo guy lacks discipline.

This makes interesting reading by the way. . .

If they resign now, the drama would end. Resignation would mean that both have reached a compromise and are leaving on their own terms. We don't want that to happen because it would pave way for someone of their choosing to come in and ensure a massive cover up.

Erm, I forgot to mention, Sierra Leone is also stable. . .https://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m32/Chxta/Juventuz%20smilies/rofl.gif

Other examples of reform: the Thatcher years, Deng Xiao Ping?

Edit: Nice crossing swords with you again. Have to get back to class now. Vayan con Dios.

I thought we were talking processors here, not motherboards.

Reform: to form again

Genuine reform is possible. Tell me, you live in the US. Ever heard of Alphonse Capone?

From your list above, Ethiopia, Niger, Chad, Nepal, Pakistan, Lebanon make the cut as very stable countries. . .https://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m32/Chxta/Juventuz%20smilies/eyebrows.gif

ono:
Well, I said all that not to hurt you. Don't take it too personal. One ''smiling smiley' would have made the difference, though. As per meeting you in person, well, I'll say not yet. But are you in PH?

And me, I seldom attack folks' personality on this forum. Rather, I've made wonderful friends on this site because of the way I relate with people. We can be friends, after all said.

I am not angry my dear, can't get angry over something posted on the internet by someone who for all I know may be sittng right next to me, or on another end of the globe.

But having said all that, you need to learn to divorce issues from persons. That way we can all happily shout at each other in a debate, then go and cheer the Super Eagles together afterwards.

No, I am not in PH. Was there earlier in the year though, may not be there for a long time to come. . .

davidylan:
I agree with you, infact a decent government is quite unworkable since it would be the same set of individuals running the show. Infact is it possible that good social infrastructure is still workable in Nigeria, afterall it is the same people running the show. Corruption can never be stopped, the police will always remain corrupt, we can never even progress, afterall its still the same people running the show. With all these people running the show, can we ever aspire to be president or is this topic not redundant?

With these people running the show why are we still engaged in debate over Nigeria, afterall everything is unworkable abi?

Human beings are basically corrupt, and all Nigeria needs is the rule of law. Madlawyer hit the nail on the head when he said reform the judicial system.

The problem with Nigeria now (and for the last 40 years) has been that/is when you are in a certain position, and you do something, you can get away with it. Once people know that they can't get away with shit, they would stop doing shit. Get my drift?

davidylan:
Simply because the north has used its numerical advantage and its intellectually bankrupt leaders to push us in the opposite direction for their parasitic benefits?

Yes, even Americans are selling out to Russians for money! We would definitely have southerners selling out to northerners but the truth of the matter is you only put your mouth where your belly is, after a few years on their own, the north wont have any financial clout to be able to draw southerners to their support. Only a fool will demand a return of the north after a few years of living without them!

North? Numerical advantage? Last time I checked it was the North and the West that ganged up to bring the East back into the fold when the East wanted to leave. During that conflict, the South joined with the North and the West to silence the East. Ever heard of Asaba, October 7 1967? Or Ihiala, January 12-16 1968?

Erm, when you talk of intellectually bankrupt leaders, you should include in that list Obasanjo (I notice he is called KK around these parts nowadays), Odili, Igbinedion, Kalu, Fayose, Ibori, Nnamani, Oyinlola, I could go on. Then you could remove Mu'azu, Turaki, Markafi and that bloke in Kwara (his name skips me at the moment). Point is this, the North has no monopoly of bankrupt leaders.

One more thing, we always talk about resources as if all the resources in Nigeria are located in the South (sorry, Niger Delta). Where does almost all the food we eat in Naija come from?

davidylan:
And what makes you think resource control is an unworkable idea? Simply because the north has used its numerical advantage and its intellectually bankrupt leaders to push us in the opposite direction for their parasitic benefits?

Resource control is quite unworkable because even with that, it would be the same set of individuals running the show. The same way they've been running it since 1960!

davidylan:
the reason Nigeria takes half a step forward and 19 backward is because of people with pessimistic mind https://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m32/Chxta/Juventuz%20smilies/blah.gifsets like you.

Pessimistic:
pes‧si‧mis‧tic  /ˌpɛsəˈmɪstɪk/
–adjective
pertaining to or characterized by pessimism; gloomy: a pessimistic outlook.

It depends on which side of the coin you choose to look at it from. I am pessimistic about the chance of success of the component parts of Nigeria as individual nations because like I always state here, I have gone round the country and I have seen how far.

You (and my best friend around these parts https://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m32/Chxta/Juventuz%20smilies/weee.gif) are pessimistic about the outlook of Nigeria as a nation, due to personal experiences (I assume).

As things currently stand, we have one Nigeria, not 250 individual nations, so let us work with what we have. That being the case, who is being the pessimist?

Yes.

Unknown Soldier.

Resource control? Don't make me laugh.

davidylan:
and we will fold our arms while the northern hoodlums come to "invade" us? Why would they be invading the south to get at what resources? the rosources they forgot here or what?

The south is fragmenting simply because we have a monetised culture! Everyone wants a state or LG not because they love their people but because its another way to milk the federal allocation! With resource control and every community held accountable for their resources, there'd be less scramble for "oil money"!

Once again (in another argument though) you have proved my point for me. A monetised culture will not simply disappear would it? So what prevents some people from the South (like they've always done anyways) from selling out to the North?

This is a dick sucking thread. . .

. . .and Iraq wasn't on the list! https://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m32/Chxta/Juventuz%20smilies/rofl.gif

How come people have forgotten that Orji Kalu is worse than Chimaroke?