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Liverpool are more than messed up!

lilo aka Rob Levin was one of the key people behind the freenode IRC network, on which all of Ubuntu’s IRC chat rooms are offered. Its the first IRC network I ever used, and the one I use the most. Rob was the driving force behind freenode, and freenode is a free service. Ergo, he’s had to live a pretty simple life - not a “rich” life by any means.

lilo passed away earlier in the day. I came to know this through a friend’s blog. Looks like he was killed in a hit-and-run road accident while riding his bike.

I once chatted with him, and he came across as a very nice, humble guy. I even wrote on my blog asking folks to lend him a helping hand, and became a freenode donor myself. I strongly believe that every one of us should pitch in and help support those who dedicate their lives to making ours better.

Thank you lilo, and thanks to all the folks who work on Linux, Ubuntu, and everything that is free and good.

lilo will certainly be missed. My heartfelt condolences to his family. They too have paid a price for the freedom I enjoy, and they’ll be missing him far more than I do.

http://ubuntu./2006/09/17/lilo-will-be-missed/

Well, it's a wait and see thing Nutter. . .

Ballack sees red. . .https://www.juventuz.com/forum/images/juventuz_smilies/weee.gif

Ronke, I went thru the same thing. I was refused a visa, and whilst I appealed, I reapplied, but in Abuja. Those wankers in Lagos are nasty. Got the visa, now in the UK, starting my programme next week.

Drogba just scored a wundergoal for ¢he£$ky. At this rate I'd be supporting ManScum whole-heartedly in some hours. . .

At least Orji Kalu can now concentrate on some actual governance. . .

http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/sep17f.html

Other than a good cross along the mouth of the goal, Zlatan was in classic "wide left, wide right" form. As often happened on Juve, Zlatan got the ball moving around a lot but was plagued by a lack of final finishing. Some things never change.https://www.juventuz.com/forum/images/juventuz_smilies/rolleyes.gif

And Vieira's goal disallowed for rightfully being offsides? Classic.https://www.juventuz.com/forum/images/old_juventuz_smilies/wallbang.gif

Man, that was fun to watch. Even if it was an own-goal that gave Inter a point out of this match. Cordoba was an idiot, as he often is, but rightfully got caught this time for the Flacchi PK. That second half was Inter just pouring it on and Samp just defending everything.

Inter can't win a Scudetto on the pitch

Moanin-ho waited to shake Rafa's hand. What is he trying to prove?

Try Sports Connection, Metro Plaza, Abuja.

Great points Ugwumba. We go yarn later, but I think both men are crooks. Talk more after. I just made it in time for the matches. . .

When you walk through a storm. . .

I'm a Juve fan which means some would say what is my business here.

However, like any true fan, I hate disloyal players. My take on the Cashley Cole saga is documented here. Nothing he claims will change the truth.

To my Arse-nal and ManScum friends, may the bestman win. To my Scouser friends: I hope you kick butt today.

Chxta's World

I placing this article uneditted so you can make your own judgements. I'd have said something, but time is not my friend at the moment, so I'll not. I'll be back to normal service (I hope) by tomorrow. To my Arse-nal and ManScum friends, may the bestman win. To my Liverpool friends: I hope you kick butt today.

The article is below:

I DID not know the full implications of Blind Fury until a bungling phenomenon called OBJ came along the other day. I had thought that blind fury only comes about when the matador shows the red handkerchief to the bull who gets real blind fury and lays itself easily for the matador’s deft sword. And I warned in many articles back that we were being prepared for a political drama that was about to open. And we would not have to buy tickets even for the ring side.

Obasanjo was the bull in the ring and Abubakar Atiku was the deft matador. What would have been responsible for Obasanjo losing his composure so badly as to trip so typically? The difference was so clear between an administrator and a man who has been nothing more than a soldier.

When Obasanjo thought he had dropped the bomb on Abubakar like the H-Bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, these are the thoughts that came to my mind: (a) Shigidi nr’oko ete bo (The voodoo clay figurine is trying to disgrace itself). (b) Bi shigidi ba maa te aa ni ki won gbe on s’ojo (when the clay voodoo figurine wants disgrace, it requests to be put in the rain). (c) shago nb’ugo (the kettle is calling the pot black). (d) ibinu ko me pe oluwa on ko lese nle
And to sum up my expectation of justice in the matter: Bika ba r’ojo, ika ko lo ma da (if the malevolent presents this evil evidence, he would not deliver the judgement). Two episodes in my own life immediately came to mind: Adebayo Bankole is my first cousin. A normally reticent boy at the time. He was younger and I took advantage of anytime he committed a little offence. I whacked him, he would whine, retreat from my walloping and cried. I got used to it that I made it a regular attitude. Then on a day I did not expect, he faced me and fought back and nearly floored me. Then I knew I had overstepped my bounds; I had stretched my luck too far. From then on, I stopped hitting him. Of course, he still respected me but I knew how far I could go.

Salisu Yakubu, General Gowon would remember him, was my counsellor at the Embassy in Stockholm. He was from Zaria, married to Sikira from Ibadan. There was this my colleague, a career diplomat, who thought I was too full of myself and did everything to cut me to size. I tried to avoid confrontation with him, but the more I avoided him, the more relentlessly he pursued me. I related my dilemma to Alhaji Yakubu. He told me the solution was not to avoid confronting an adversary, the thing to do was take him head-on. He told me the adversary would think twice. And the man did! That was what Obasanjo asked for and would get. Perhaps, one is jumping to conclusions. What are the facts?

First obvious facts: Atiku Abubakar was on the same ticket with Obasanjo - first and second terms. Atiku on Obasanjo’s ticket boosted his chance, this well-oiled PDM machine substantially powered the electoral victory. Obasanjo’s reluctance to name Atiku as running mate nearly cost him the second term. Obasanjo’s fortune turned when he acknowledged the grandmaster.

Atiku’s ambition to come into Obasanjo’s shoes at the expiration of his term polarised the union. Third term opposed by Atiku finished off the relationship. Since then, the centre ceased to hold. Atiku has an immunity which he waived to show he is bona fide. The administrative inquiry set up to look into allegations by the President comprised nominees and yesmen of the President: Attorney-General; EFCC chairman, Nuhu Ribadu, Nasir El-Rufai, Oby Ezekwesili.etc etc.

Just as the FEC comprises men and women who the President hired and can fire. Because jobs are hard to find, most would rather keep what they have. We are saying the inevitability of bias has been established ab initio. Even then, it is a simple and clear-cut case: The insinuation or allegation that Atiku abused his office by taking bribe from an American congressman, Jefferson The misuse or abuse of PTDF fund and, which I can here call sundries. My layman’s understanding of court trials has been that no judge would give ruling or judgement on what is not pleaded. That was not the case with the so-called Administrative Inquiry. It went beyond its brief (Jefferson) and pronounced on the lodgement of PTDF Fund.

Atiku was generous with his refutations. The alleged so-called bribe money $100,000, was not found with Atiku but in the home of the man who allegedly gave the bribe to influence the vice-president. As for the PTDF fund, the vice-president indicated the advantage of placing the funds with the banks after due advice from the accountant-general. Not only that, it was with the approval of the president! The man they did not want to see with Atiku - Mike Adenuga - has himself corroborated what the vice-president said: that Mike had paid for his acquisition of telecoms licence months before money was lodged in his (Mike’s) ETB Bank.

Under sundries came the allegation of misapplication of PDP campaign funds. The V-P was unequivocal. The account, he said, was jointly run by him and Obasanjo which makes both of them culpable in the case of fraudulent manipulation which is what the president seems to be alleging. Otherwise called The Marine Floating Account, both ran it through Johnson Fashawe, a mutual friend of the president and the VP. He directed our attention to the fact that Chief Emeka Ofor and the late Waziri K. Muhammad ran two similar accounts. In fact, there is rumour the accounts ran into billions.

Of course, that posed a moral question for both men - president and VP. And one now understands the vehemence of the persecution of hitherto unknown so-called businessman, Fashawe, by the government (otherwise the president). Long time and far away, one had wondered what status of Johnson, entitled him to unhindered access to both men.

Now, with the mutual recriminations between the President and the VP, we know. The EFCC mentioned a house in ABTI; the VP spoke of one donated to Africa Leadership Forum, an NGO owned by Obasanjo. It has also been alleged that: Adenuga was building a N1 billion or so library at Bells. It simply means our leaders are trading with us.

For the Senate of the Republic, its role is clear ease these bulls out of the nation’s china shop or declare a no contest. It has shown its power before in the matter of the third term; it can acquit itself this time also. Of course, swinging Zwingina spoke of the options in the matter. It is my hope that he will not swing this one as he tried to do the last time around. I do not trust him as I used to do before June 12. Page 17 cartoon of The Nation of September 11, sums up our expectation of the National Assembly on the matter. In a beer parlour discussion between two patrons, one client shows a banner headline: "EFCC Report: Obasanjo Orders Atiku impeached. Second litmus test for the honourables."
Segun Obasanjo is bent on running our country as his personal estate. We must not allow him that pleasure. He should go.

Chxta wouldn't mind learning Efik and Ibibio, he already knows some Bekwarra so there's a start. But then again he knows some Hausa, some Yoruba, a bit of Urhobo and quite some violent Edo and Esan. . .https://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m32/Chxta/Juventuz%20smilies/eyebrows.gif

Makes him a true Nigerian don't it?

https://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m32/Chxta/nigeria.jpg

Nutter:
Cheers, mate!

I’d love to get down and dirty with your last post but my boys have been calling. It's Friday night. Got to go listen me some soft jazz followed by loud music of an eclectic nature. Will be back on here in some hours if I'm not tired and/or sleepy. If I am either (or both), we resume 'hostilities' tomorrow. K’odi nwanne.

I love talking with you, very stimulating. Nah. I'll soon be hitting the sheets. Off to Slough for the whole of tomorrow, but would be back in London just in time to catch ¢h€£$k¥-Liverpool (hope Pool win that one), just before the big onehttps://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m32/Chxta/Juventuz%20smilies/drool.gif. We could resume 'hostilities' on the football page Sunday evening?

K'odi nwanne echi. Ijeoma.

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It depends on the kinda wifey you have at home. . .

O brother. . .https://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m32/Chxta/Juventuz%20smilies/wallbang.gif

Bubus:
Bubus, the same, yesterday, today and forever!!
I offered a solution. Albeit something different. It might actually work.

It's too bad to hear you blaspheme.

https://www.juventuz.com/forum/images/old_juventuz_smilies/touched.gifO for the days of the Old Testament when thunder and lightning would have delievered instant judgement. . .https://www.juventuz.com/forum/images/old_juventuz_smilies/touched.gif

Get a room you two!

That you believe that due process was followed doesn't mean it was. We were not allowed to argue our case in the panel hearing, and when we insisted on our right to appeal to the maximum level possible, FIGC and FIFA threatened us. I'll post the link tomorrow. For now I'm too tired to look for it.

How's your Italian? You'll need it to be able to read the reports.

Nutter:
@Chxta,
Erm, I highlighted the Ugandan example to depict the intolerance that pervaded Uganda during the time of Amin and nothing else. This level of intolerance was demonstrated during the Constitutional Conference. Read my sentence again.

Read it again and again before replying. Your sentence implied an unwillingness by Idi Amin to discuss a break up of Uganda.

I cannot speak for the West or the North. Concerning the East, remember the MASSOB stay-at-home directives observed by millions of Igbo all over the country? This is far from an esoteric agenda championed by nameless and faceless individuals. The following is much greater. Calling a lion a mouse will take nothing away from its nature or its purpose.

I was in the East during one of the MASSOB stay at home 'directives' (doesn't that word sound a tard dictatoral?). And I can assure you that most people stayed home not because they supported MASSOB, but because they were afraid for their lives and property. Not exactly a very nice way to win popular support.

When did Anambra begin its severe degeneration? First under Mbadinuju and later 'under' Uba with support from Aso Rock. Next!

Anambra's degeneration has been going on for a long time. That is the truth. It is such that even Odimegwu (*I spit*) had the nerve to use ABU ([size=4pt]Anambra Brought Up[/size]whatever that means) to brag that he would show anti-third termers that he is ABU.

Again, I cannot speak for the West. However, even if that were so in the East, it will be a lot better than the almost yearly massacres that have become sport for the idle in Northern Nigeria. Next!

And when was the last 'annual' massacre to use your words. It can't be removed from the history books that we have suffered at the hands of the almajiri and their sponsors, but then again, that is the price a people pay when they are successful and mercantile like we are. Read Jews (whom some wrongly claim we are) for that. Would you say we pull out of Naija because we have had it rough (and still flourished)? Then the African Americans should have pulled out of the US a long time ago.

Again, all done under the watchful eyes of Aso Rock until they fell (or fall) out of favour. Are they corrupt? Yes. What is EFCC (King Kong's baby) doing in that regard? Nothing! Will it be easier to steal if they had to answer directly to their people? No! Next!

Erm, stealing is being practised on a grand scale in the following states: Edo, Delta, Enugu, Rivers, Adamawa, Zamfara, Abia, Bayelsa, Taraba, in all these states from ward level to state level, all directly answerable to their people, and all under the watchful eyes of their people. Part of the problem with Nigeria as a whole (and it is obviously part of you too, I have that problem from time to time) is impatience. The wheels of justice grind slowly as the former governor of Illinois found out.

The Igbo remain the only group that donated money amongst themselves to build an airport. Next!

I believe you are talking of the airport at Owerri. Good. That is not an Igbo airport, it is an Imo airport. The Igbo also remain the only group to have delibrately scuttled an existing airport project by the Federal Government on their land. Read Oba.

They are also encouraged to attack the Igbo. Let's not forget that. Also, Igbo culture is so different from that up North that no comparison can poke its head above the rafters and survive. Next!

They are not encouraged to attack Igbo. I've lived among them, and like every group of people, there is always the xenophobia that comes when 'aliens' come to live amongst them and flourish. Being in the UK you must have heard of the BNP. I'd suggest that you sleep with an eye open, because at the end of the day your skin my dear friend distinguishes you from other British. One day the same thing you point out that the almajiri did to nd'Igbo would visit you in the UK. The examples are already there in France and the rest of the continent.

You assume this for no other reason than to bolster your argument. The facts however indicate a stifling of the Igbo inventive flair in present day nigeria. Think of the developmental progress ‘Aba Made’ goods would have experienced if this wasn’t the case. Other countries started that way. Refer to India and the Asian Tigers. Next!

India and the Asian tigers fluorished because their neighbours were friendly and cooperative. We (nd'Igbo) don't have that luxury. Do not be deceived. Let us face facts, when that division you are clamouring for comes, the first to turn against us would be our South-South brothers. We won't have space to trade because we'll be too busy covering our flanks. Nilla's comment here lends credence to this. For avoidance of doubt, she said: At least the Igbo's are recognized, what about other minor tribes.

The problem I usually have with the split most Igbo's want is, They want to split and include the niger delta with them.
But how do we know that split is also the best thing for the Niger delta.[/i]That should give you a clue as to the unconscious lack of regard they have for us.

The recent igbo Summit in Owerri where so-called Igbo leaders were denied the right of speech demonstrates what the Igbo can and would do within their own domain. Next!

But Nzeribe still holds sway in Oguta. Until we can truly remove those scum (and yes, that includes Ojukwu) we are not ready to seriously hold our own.

At least we agree that nigeria is not doing well. The reason is simply because our ‘leaders’ have refused to allow us discuss these options in the open. As long as that continues, there will be suspicion, fear, animosity and a progressive distancing of minds (and subsequently, inevitable, self) from the failed project that is nigeria.

In a lot of discussions throughout history, there have been no go areas. I strongly believe that in any discussion concerning Nigeria's future, seccession by any component part should be a no go area. We have gone down that route before, and we saw the consequences. The consequences now would even be more hellish.

The case of nigeria is far more complex than that of Ghana or Kenya. Let’s be realistic here. With over 400 different tongues, we either talk (not by patronage or condescension but genuine engagement) or divide. There is no middle ground.

Let's assume that you are right, and that Naija's case is more complex than that of Ghana (I concede Kenya because the Swahili are too dominant there), then we roll the globe and look for a case that is more complex than Naija. India and Indonesia. So. . . ?

Next!

*Why haven’t you accepted my apology nwanne? O di kwa mma?

[i]Nna biko e wena iwe. Apology accepted.

Bubus:
Your case is finished.
Your wife will leave.
Your girlfriend will stop liking you because you are no longer married, hence no longer desirable
Your employers will fire you because you will become depressed and less productive

That is the truth. Nothing can save you now.

Unless you send me your wife's number, let me talk to her for you.

Gosh are you going to be the same here!

How long has your current cabling arrangement been in place? Maybe you want to replace your cables?

. . .and how would it when all of it will be true?

Nutter:
Not if it is split properly the first time round. We need to allow people decide where they want to be. If we don’t, the problem will only linger. The British didn’t ask us, hence the current stalemate.

Erm neither did they ask the Ghanaians, or the Kenyans, or pretty much every country in Africa. Are you suggesting that all countries on the continent break up along ethnic (read tribal) lines?

Nutter:
@nilla,

I don't know why the subject was never brought up.

It came up (several times) but was deliberately squashed with a ferocity only common in nigeria (and perhaps Uganda during the time of Idi Amin).

You forgot China (Tibet and Hong Kong), the Soviet Union under Iosef Dzhugashvili, The United Kingdom (under kings from Edward I up until George V), and the United States under Abraham Loncoln. Erm, no one ever talked of dividing Uganda under Idi Amin.

But still,

Who really wants us to divide.
I don't think the north wants that
the west don't want that.
for the minorities it won't make a difference because they will still be a minority, except of course after Nigeria is divided into 2, the south will continue to divide.

The East and our Niger Delta brothers and sisters want out. There will not be the question of them being minorities because they would have a nation of their own. After their hard graft in the nigerian experiment, they deserve it.

Some interest groups in both the East and the Niger Delta especially, but also interest groups present in both the North and the West want the country divided. They all feel that they will be better off that way. What they haven't taken into account (IMHO because they are selfish interests) is the effect that such a break up would have.

Quick question Nutter, what do Nigerians stand to gain from a divided Nigeria?

Off the top of my head? Better governance, greater security of lives and property, more robust economic development, greater accountability, fast-tracked infrastructural development and maintenance, a well-defined middle class, freer trade, imprisonment of King Kong and his band of merry goons, et cetera. *Plus Nutter would be a much happier bloke*

Better governance like we've had in Anambra State over the last 36 years (*check), greater security of lives and property like they would have in the west when they start fighting themselves as is usual (*check), greater accountability like Odili, Ibori, Igbinedion, Alams and Jonathan are giving now (*check), fast-tracked infrastructural development and maintenance(my favourite) like my brothers in Oba did to help with the building of the airport there (*check), a well-defined middle class like applies in the North where the almajiri roam freely and are encouraged not to go near a school (*check), freer trade when we would all be fighting ourselves (*check), imprisonment of King Kong and his band of merry goons since they would all be part and parcel of the various new governments in power and would be busy fuelling the war that would be fought (*check).

As for you being a happier bloke, I believe that when Naija starts doing well, not when Naija divides, you nwannem would be a much happier bloke.

I never run. Everyone knows that. . .

She's wrong. Better Babangida (who insh'Allah will leave in 8 years) than another military coup.