₦airaland Forum

Beaf:
If GEJ's ambition is killed because of the Igbo - Ijo matter, don't be surprised if Pat Utomi's ambition is killed even before it leaves Delta state. And in Delta state, Ijo's are a minority. Think about it.

The whole ND is for GEJ, including politicians from opposing parties. The Igbo - Ijo matter needs to be resolved amicably, because we all lose; after which the bitterness will be entrenched and expanded to all SS and SE groups. We don't need it.

Dantala 48:
FYI Ibadan is 10 times bigger than Aba.

Dantala 48:
I went to Aba, my God the town is a of trash, stinks, horrible smell added to all this a road network that is wrost than the wrost. Ossisioma, part of Ariaria market are the wrost culprits. my Godness i could not eat. Ibo people are considered clean, but Aba ibos are exception.

na_so:
If The SE fails to support the SS now, then it is a given that the SS will not support the SE when 2015 comes and with that even with zoning of the PDP, the SE candidate will not win. It is that simple.

bk.babe97y:
You just need to go back to Ezeuche's and Chyz's previous posts (along with that of a few others) to prove this!


Exactly! Why cant they be allowed to keep whatever money is made from their land instead of having to split it with the rest of the Nation? Let the rest of the country generate their own funds, that'll solve a lot of the problems you have in Nigeria!

bk.babe97y:
Well, I'll say your posts r full of contradictions like Beaf said. I've seen numerous times where "you" (meaning also others of your tribal group i.e EzeUche) boldy supported exterminating the Ijaws people or raised tribal bias against the Yorubas. I usually figured, based on some of your later posts, that you didnt really mean what u posted and that (like some of us on here) you were just trying to rile up people jokingly. I am not trying to flip nothing like Becomrich, all I'm doing is stating the truth as they seem to me. What I dont understand is why the Ibos would play "destroyer" just because. . . . . Chyz, the real problem of Nigeria, as I see it, is not the Ibos, Yorubas, or any other of the minor groups. The main problem of your country are the selfish, maniacal elite, and to a larger extent, the Hausas!

  Why cant the Ibos forget about the past (hard to do, I know) and forge an alliance with the Yorubas and other progressives instead of thinking everyone is against them? Why cant they come together with others (like Mr Obasanjo) and knock the Hausas outta the choke-hold they got over the nation? Trust me, Yall got a better chance of eventually ensuring that theres a future Biafra when you form an alliance with the Yorubas than siding with the Hausas. Thats just what I see. Its clear that the Hausas are intent on running Nigeria till Christ comes back (and even after then), the Hausa influence is waning, they are on the ropes, they are in disarray, eveyone has seen through them and nobody is willing to let them back in power; they are more desperate than a Saint that was mistakenly sentenced to hell fire.

     The Ibos are probably the most educated group (along with the Yorubas) in the whole of Nigeria, so, why then should they always acquiesce to the pressures/deceits of a bunch of ignorant, illiterate and blood thirsty desert dwellers all in the name of exacting revenge on their perceived enemies? The Hausas use them to fight the Ijaws, they use them to fight the Yorubas, then when the Ibos are done doing the biddings of those damn pseudo Arab's , they are dumped!!! The Hausas then turn around and become friends with the same Yorubas and Ijaws, share stolen loot and top government posts with them and then relegate the Ibos to the background. Who is worse off in the end? The Ibos! Then the other groups remember that the Ibos were treacherous to them . . . round and round, a freaking sad cycle. If IBB is sincere, why doesnt he "support" an Ibo man for President right now? Why, arent there charismatic, well intentioned, visionary young Ibo men that can mount the saddle of leadership right now? He's an "Elder states man" why cant he assume that role instead of fighting to return to power?

   The Hausas are clearly used to the rule of divide and conquer (succesfully), they turn the Ibos against the rest of Nigeria whenever they want to achieve their aims and it seems the Ibos, too bitter about the past to see clearly, always seem to fall for their games. I'm not saying the other groups are angels, all I'm saying is the Ibos should look past the past, and into the future, to ensure a stronger Ibo nation.


P.S: I'm not Nigerian, Ive never been there, I have no intention to, no reason whatsoever. . . . I love Nigerians, I see a lot of prospects in that Nation and I dont understand how a country so rich with all its natural and human resources, a nation full of intelligent people, will allow the most imbecili of its lot to be in charge of its affairs. To say I'm astonished is to say the least of my surprise at that nation. . . .

ChinenyeN:
Wow, I cannot believe my Igboness is in question, yet again. You people here are something else. I shouldn't even be asked such, let alone having to answer it. Let me just hold my tongue, and keep my peace. I will not stress over this with you all anymore.

ChinenyeN:
Chyz, are you ok?

Abagworo:
urhobo and isoko situation.urhobo and isoko speak thesame language by igbo standards.the difference between urhobo and isoko lects is same as owerri and ngwa.they are closely related.

Aigbofa:
If anything, this thread has given us a little insight into what could have become of Biafra. A country where minorities are brutally supressed or made to conform to ibo customs.
There are Yorubas outside of the southwest, and they don't need anybody to goad them along, they will readily tell you they are Yorubas. Why can't you respect the right of other people in your neighbourhood to uphold their own ethnicity, just as you uphold yours!!

Anywayz, Back to Igbo issues

udezue:
Beaf, please post it. Ogbado lol

Chyz, wenne nnoo!!

Beaf:
It is good you said the bolded, because the self contradiction in rest of your post makes you look quite foolish.

As for pointing out the liar, how about this?

That was in the article titled "The True Extent Of Alaigbo (Igboland) " and it was just a couple of days ago.

Solomon227:
Chyz boy

I beg to differ with u.I am a child of history and learn from history a lot. Do u remember OBJ? He was a former military president b/4 I was born and tank God for history he was known to be brutal, vengeful and anything but humane. Then incarcerated by Abacha. OJB announced he was now born again (a new creature). Then IBB and his frend calld on OBJ to assuage d loss of MKO (bla bla bla). Even against his people's wish (the yoruba) OBJ came back and turned out to b more wicked than he was in his first coming. IBB, a ruthless killer,intolerant and wicked schemer btw 1985 and 1993 did not go to prison (no sober reflection like OBJ) but coming back into presidency my frend he is going to b ther for live. More dan OBJ, he enjoys killing and doesnt really see anything wrong in people dying as long as there not Mohammed Banbangida or Aisha. This guy will silence all opposition and kill the stubborn 1s and diz igbo presidency we are clamuoring 4 will even bcome d last tin on our mind by d time he has clamped down an all opponenets. Guy, get sentimental and fight the Devil until he succumbs.

Beaf:
Chyz is Igbo.

In every discuss we have had on NL, Igbo's have cut themselves away from Niger Delta people and it is a hard battle to keep pointing out that our interests are the same. Infact, it is quite common to hear Igbo's say they will open the gates to wipe out Niger Deltans if they rise up. Or that they have the numbers to be kingmakers. All these, because of so much hatred for Ijo people, even more than that for those who have oppressed them; to the extent that anti-Ijo sentiments arise when Jonathans name is mentioned, even though he most likely speaks Igbo and definitely has Igbo blood in his veins.

Maybe, its time for Niger Deltans to begin taking a second look at the landscape. We generate the money in the country and should looking at ourselves as kingmakers too.

Udezue, I'm sure you know my natural position in these things, but it is getting increasingly difficult to sustain.

bk.babe97y:
Chyz, I dont think the Ibos should vote for the incumbent! What I think the Ibos should do is vote for the right, most credible person on the ballot! I think the Ibos (like the tribalists we encounter on here everyday) should do away with sentiments. Why would you say "Oh, man, we voting for IBB just to piss the Ijaws off cause of Adaki Boro"? Or, ". . . the Yorubas are traitors, and even though we know this Yoruba Presidential aspirant is more credible we wont vote for him just to spite the whole Yorubas"?. With such statements and outlook in life its no surprise that the rest of Nigeria views the Ibos with, not just suspicion, but also as a group intent on impeding the progress of the country.

    Instead of thinking what will "help" the Ibos, why cant you think of what will help your whole country? Thats what honestly confuses me about not just the Ibos, but also, the whole of Nigeria!

Adonike:
Nigeria is one indivisible entity

lannre:
need a research on Nigeria development too

Aigbofa:
The same Babangida who kicked Ebitu Ukiwe to the curb is now suddenly the champion of Ibo interests. If he loves ibos so much, why is he not in support of an ibo president now? Why 2015.

sjeezy8:
Look It doesnt really matter vote for IBB because Hausas-fulanis have their own candidates their states will vote for in the up coming elections. Be it Buhari- or whoever cause right now[b] I hear Hausas-fulani asking for other young northern candidates of hausa-fulani extration to emerge NOT IBB.[/b]

So theres no doubt in my mind that IBB will lose- to a hausa-fulani IF JONATHAN DOESNT WIN PDP TICKET.- most of Jonathans support lies in the South and middle belt, - I know yorubas + Western deltans majority will vote for Jonathan + I know Obj,OGD,ONI,Aloa Akala will rig elections in the SW in favour of Jonathan anyway.

When igbo are ready for presidency - They should come to the SW, SS(edos,isokos,urhobos,western ijaws) and middle belt to talk sensible politics- Cause igboman getting votes in the sharia north PROBABLY AINT GONNA HAPPEN. Some Northerners even think its against the Quran to be in favour of anything that isnt islamic- so of course they wont vote for christian  talkless of igbo.

Beaf:
The bolded is a load of rubbish. South South is exactly what it is, whether you like it or not. GJ belongs not only to Ijo, but to Urhobo, Itsekiri etc. Go and polish up your politics. GJ represents the whole Niger Delta, no more no less.

sjeezy8:
lol


because if igbos vote for Goodluck Jonathan like the majority of SW is - they(SW and non ibo SS) will support an igbo as president in the future or atleast the igbo should know that just being a christian makes it almsot NO CHANCE AT winning voted in the 15-16 sharia states.

igbo not gon win presidency without the SS and SW cause the Core (sharia) North is not goin vote for him- Lets say the truth.

OBJ DOES RIG ELECTION IN THE SOUTH- I KNOW THATS MY POINT but I can assure you hes not going rig election for an igbo, if igbo vote for IBB and not Jonathan.

sjeezy8:
lol are you serious or are you joking

Candidates Parties Votes %
Matthew Olusegun Fajinmi Aremu Obasanjo People's Democratic Party 61.9
Muhammadu Buhari All Nigeria People's Party 32.2
Chukwuemeka Odumegwu Ojukwu All Progressives Grand Alliance 3.3
Total (turnout 69.1 %) 100.0
Source: Independent National Electoral Commission

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bk.babe97y:
Lol, Chyz, come on now, even u dont believe this paragraph u put up there! lol. Ibos will insist on being President in '15 and if the North says "No" the Ibos will "dismantle" the country?!!? lol. U thot 1967 was horrible. . . .  Dude, the fact remains until the Ibos stop seeing themselves as objects of destruction/going outta their way to "destroy" the Yorubas to the detriment of development. . . . if the Ibos never deem it fit to stand on whats right instead of thinking "Hmmmn, what ways can we destroy the Yorubas this election year?", then they can keep dreaming about the Presidency and just watch as the other nationalities split power amongst themselves till eternity.