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sjeezy8:
Thats the TRUTH- Now please relay that message to your brothers, If MAJORITY of igbo wont vote for a muslim, WHAT MAKES THEM THINK IN 2015 THE MUSLIM north ( 17/36 states) will vote for an christian?

Thats the truth. IBB probably does want an igbo president, so do I and Many people- but its not yorubas(like Obj) or middlebelts(like IBB) that are against an christian (igbo) president its the 17 islamic states - that wont vote for one.

So igbo should know IBB is a MINORITY and cannot get 17/36 North islamic states to vote for a christian igbo in 2015. Northerners dont vote for christians if a muslim is running in opposition.

Ossai famous:
the french and spanish language are similar but not the same
the ukwani language can be similar to the Igbo, but not the same language,
there are differences,

mens dept:
Among the past former military rulers, many Igbo would say that IBB did more for Igbo interest than Gowon, Buhari, and co. Yet it's absurd to say that any Nigerian presidential aspirant that "happens" to bear an Igbo name should wait until 2015. Why? And really, would an Igbo presidency really solve the ethnic divide of the nation? What do you guys say?

barnabasj:
I have come to noticed that whenever Goodluck Jonathan travel to South south or South East he wil spends 2 to 3 days on a state visit for example when he travels to Rivers, Delta, Akwa Ibom, etc he spend more than a day and he feel more relaxed and secured among his people, But whenever he want to visit any state in the South west and North it will be a different story with just a day visits for example his visits to Oyo state, Gombe,zamfara, kaduna, and his recent visit to Kogi state all is just a day working visits.

What did you see to this.

ilugunboy:
This old fool is fastly running out of  options .

Imagine the reason for trying to scam the Igbos into his ambition knowing fully the Igbos are still very sentimental anytime the issue of the civil war is raised. Now he is simply palying on that sentiment. Old foool!.

He ran away from the Yorubas after he was giving an impossible condition and am sure the Igbos too can come up with such condition if not they will keep playing the politics of strategy wrongly.

IBB only continuous influence is mainly his deep pocket which is fastly depleting.

bk.babe97y:
You seemed to me a reasonable dude, but now, I cant call it. . . . But thats neither here nor there, and is not even the issue at hand. Why cant you see that these are the antics of a dying, desperate and drowning man? Isnt there supposed to be an election? So, how can he now "promise" the Presidency, of all posts, to a certain tribe?! How is that possible? Doesnt that smirk of "dictatorship"? Doesnt that show that even if he (miraculously) became President that he would go back to his prior days where history has shown he ruled with absolute tyranny? Doesnt this show how gullible, st.up.id, and foolish he thinks Ibos really are? ( I say this without disrespect).

TewMuch:
Seems like IBB is gonna be president of the South East.:x.Because[b] if he becomes president, all the Igbo's will be chased back into their little states.Cause blood will flow for their support.That is guaranteed.Its going to be messy.[/b]Also, if Yoruba's could strictly vote for abiola and he won, that will mean that Yoruba population is underestimated since Igbo's claim only Yoruba's voted for him.Wonder how in a free election IBB could win with only his vote nd Igbo votes.

Ileke-IdI:
Awon Afenifere are basically telling IBB that they're not going to vote for him, because IBB was involved in abiola's murder.

Whoever in here that actually think that Yorubas want IBB to physically bring back Abiola is a simple dimwit. What kinda senseless thinking

ANywaz, this was a very educative : http://www.naijarules.com/vb/news-current-affairs-politics/34117-ibb-killed-abiola-abacha-idiagbon-ige-fayemiwo.html

sjeezy8:
lol that is funny tho because before the SE became relevant in the eyes of IBB presidency - He was in the SW trying to get support, you see how he kicked off his campaign in the SW( Ibadan, Oyo state)- But it flopped. So obviously his first choice for VOTES- was the SW. - WHICH FAILED.

AND its not yorubas fault that the two candidates for presidency were yoruba- It Dawned on the North, its either a yoruba president or No Nigeria.

sjeezy8:
There shouldnt even be a discussion- I want igbos to vote for IBB.

Igbos should vote IBB- I want them too, cause it will really show their true colors by backstabbing Niger deltans/ Jonathan. And when the time for an igbo presidency to emerge comes - I guarantee Niger deltans, Middle belt, SW and Core North will part opposite ways with whom ever igbo vote with.

I mean thats common sense, You are willing to vote for IBB a when he cannot guarantee and igbo president?
1) Hes not from the core North
2)  In every Election atleast - 10 northern core states are going to a muslim - Guaranteed., SW not voting for any fellow southerner except Jonathan, or an edo, urhobo, itsekiri or maybe a donald duke. Real talk
3) Middle belt is voting for either a middle belter, muslim southerner, northern or SS(minority) or SW er- I guanrantee it.

koruji:
@chyz
You are in timeout now - to the corner with you

When I said "you" that was in reply to the statement "we will, " aka the 10s or less people claiming to represent the Igbos on NL. You might have been confused because there are actually two threads on this same issue, but I have treated both as one. [size=15pt]Next time just click on my username and then click on my recent posts to see where your confusion came from before jumping to conclusions.[/size]

koruji:
And that is what I advised you to do, it is what you should do - but be ready for the consequences if you chose wrong. In my case,  I might simply follow him to Abuja to make sure we are examining his actions daily, hourly, and by the second, if need be. That's how much I believe IBB would bring complete ruination to Nigeria if by accident he gets elected. I will be more than happy to be wrong , but at this point the only thing I believe IBB would bring to Nigeria is ruination. Nothing is going to change that until I see him actually perform as a president - he doesn't even deserve the 2nd chance- too many futures are at stake!

And I guess you must be Gwari - did I say I don't know his state. I am not sure of his ethnicity, and thank you if you were correct, that is! There is an old rumor that IBB is actually from Ogbomoso. Not that I believed it, the way some people quickly put their teeth into the claim that OBJ is Igbo

TewMuch:
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If the SS,MB and SW vote against IBB don't you still lose? Forget that 30million population bullshit, a big fallacy.Na for this INEC we go know who get population pass.Don't be deceived.How does it so happen that the 3 major ethnic groups claim to be 30million? Most female northerners may not even vote.The illiterates.hahahaha.A lot of them actually.Nd for your information IBB is nupe. From kogi state.

chyz link=topic=500758.msg6612236#msg6612236 date=1282361711:
Whether u like it or not if IBB sounds good to us and offers us the best interest he has our votes. And for your info IBB is Gwari and from Niger State. You must be a Ghanaian.  

Beaf:
People keep making the mistake of thinking 2011 is going to be one huge race with IBB, Atiku, Jonathan etc. It won't.
The Jonathan - IBB thing is strictly within PDP and Jonathan will come out victorious. Except IBB gets the PDP ticket (oil stops flowing and MEND pops up), the 2011 battle will be between Jonathan, Ribadu and Buhari, Kris Okotie etc.

TewMuch:
Fear? I wish you guys will even support him.Serious yawa. Deal with Yoruba's? Big fail.You guys have never succeeded and never will.By the way, IBB's middle name is Badamasi? Hmm. Sounds like Gbadamosi to me. Someone adjusted his name to fit into the northern crowd. Keep deceiving yourselves.That is why Igbo's are a major tribe but are no where, cos u guys can't see beyond your backside holes.IBB will never amount to anything.Nd never did I say vote Jonathan.You are so intent on seeing Yoruba's come to your level.Not in a 1000 years.cos we have our own voice.We spearheaded fairness for jonathan's presidency as is required by the rule of law in all fairness. Leading up to where we are of having capable presidential candidates for the presidency.May the best man win, make sure history is on your side.cos no one will teach Igbo's before they move to cameroon or hide their identity if IBB wins.No one fears IBB. I pity you.hahahaha

TewMuch:
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If the SS,MB and SW vote against IBB don't you still lose? Forget that 30million population bullshit, a big fallacy.Na for this INEC we go know who get population pass.Don't be deceived.How does it so happen that the 3 major ethnic groups claim to be 30million? Most female northerners may not even vote.The illiterates.hahahaha.A lot of them actually.Nd for your information IBB is nupe. From kogi state.

TewMuch:
I wanna know if the Igbo's just like to victimize themselves purposely.If they support IBB, and the campaign fails? Even if he wins and he does more harm, wouldn't that affect the future Igbo presidential candidates? I doubt if other groups will ever trust them again.Why not put forward your own candidate or pick from fresh candidates? Which group will want to associate themselves with IBB? Except if they want to sacrifice their future opportunities and loose.Igbo's can be stronger if they take a progressive stance.Even if they support IBB, he will still lose.Only the Igbo's and core north will vote for him.Now what? The next government will make sure the Igbo's get no relevant political positions.Stop setting yourselves up because you are thinking selfishly.Think Nigeria, because IBB betrays everyone.

becomrich5:
If the Igbo team up with IBB, you would still loss out. Look at the map. you can only get 8 states.


While look at the second map. If you run a Yoruba president and Igbo vice president. You would get 19 states.  You may even get Akwa Ibom and Cross. All you need would be either plateau, Benue or taraba state,.

koruji:
Let me repeat this here for any Nigerian listening. The only way the next presidency will benefit Igbos, Yorubas, Hausas, Fulanis, Ijaws, Itsekiris, Efiks, Gwari, Nupe, etc is if we select the best of the lot that the parties end up with.

Don't get me wrong - if that happens to be, God-forbid, IBB you are welcome to it - but I can tell you that he will not only disappoint you, but the entire nation.

The president we need is not some cunning, selfish, power-hungry kleptocrat, but one who knows the meaning of EDUCATION first of all, and most important that the president is a coordinator, a guide and guard of our collective well-being. He must stop not just clear corruption, but the corrupt framework in which Nigeria runs itself. IBB is the epitome of our current corrupt framework - it is who he is and so expect nothing from him.

koruji:
Who is this we you guys are talking about that needs commitments? Why don't you tell Jonathan what commitments you need?

IBB will tell you anything to get to Aso Rock - that is all you need to know!

Oh yes, he is outspoken alright - talking gibberish!

What does docility have to do with it - what we need is someone with judgement based on thoughtfulness, as well as proactive.

You will hold IBB to account, as in tell him to get off the chair in 2015 if doesn't want to? - he will slaughter you (sorry for my harsh language)! Answer me one question - you think Atiku would have survived if he tried that s***t with IBB, as with OBJ?

OBJ still had international reputation to protect, despite his well-known brutishness as an old soldier, but IBB doesn't give a damn, unless he is really under duress - and you had better be well prepared!

Onlytruth:
The way I'm looking at this is not in terms of friends and enemies. I'm simply looking at the courage of convictions.

IBB was a very busy president in his days in office. Nigeria was very POOR then. Oil was selling for about $18 - $20 /barrel. Today, oil goes for at least $70/barrel, and Nigeria has tens of billions of dollars in reserves. IBB even created more agencies then than OBJ did in 8 years of oil boom.

Jonathan is too docile for Nigeria's presidency. Left alone, he would not rock the boats.

We need someone with the guts to rock the boat, and since IBB publicly committed to those things, we can use them to hold him to account.

Jonathan has not committed to anything, so how can we hold him?

How do we measure him?

We need public commitments from him if he needs our votes.

Osama10:
@Igbos, dont play with the devil himself?

When he gives you one, he takes a million.

EzeUche22:
Of all the past leaders since the 1st Republic, IBB has always done the Igbos good.

I would even go as far to say that even Abacha, whose hatred for the Yorubas was well known did the Igbos good.

Jonathan, I do not trust him. Just because the Yoruba do like IBB does not mean we Igbos should follow them in their hatred.

Maybe Ojukwu is right about him.

Let him sing the right tune and the Igbo will vote for him in large numbers.

Osama10:
@ Igbos, why cant you people produce a candidate, are you people political eunuchs?

Andre Uweh:
@Igbo Boy: May your days be long. May God bless the day you joined Nairaland.
I am a member of Igbo Youths UK, and for the past five years now, two Delta Igbo sons have headed this organisation.
Majority of Delta Igbo people are proud Igbo. The few deviant cases are in Agbor area. But they are just a microscopic few.

Abagworo:
as for crossriver, the present governor is an igbo man from legbo.legbo igbo has been granted minority status by nigerian government but speaks ehugbo(afikpo igbo) which to me is actually the most difficult igbo.

ikenwan:
Well, look at this. We didn't even need outsiders to tear us apart. Igbo kwenu.

~Bluetooth:
You are the one getting things twisted.obasanjo was a military head of state in 1978.does that makes him a politician ? NO !!!.there are countries where businessmen have ruled successfully,so don't rule him out.

~Bluetooth:
Was shagari prepared for the presidential seat ? Was obj prepared ? Was yaradua prepared ? These people were all fixed but Abiola was prepared and he won but he never got there because the kingmakers didnt want him .why ?

~Bluetooth:
you may not like Abiola but he would have perform better than obj