@All      
   Am so sorry for all the insults. To Justwise, my reserved apologies. You stood up for your views, I stoop up for mine; you won, I lost; lesson learnt, time to move on.  

Never been a bad guy, made a mistake, still remained a good guy. But at least, I am not a coward who would run away from the forum like others did. So, I guess we should all be cool now.  

igbonla:

You shouldn't get angry that easily, it is not healthy.

Just keep on castigating me and I hope you get results. I stood up for my views, you stood up for yours, so what the heck? I never saw your comment until now, but I believe some applicants saw it and yet did not take further steps to verify. This is a forum where people choose to believe whatever they want. Even if I am the only that agrees with my reasons, that's fine, sue me. BTW, am not angry, I expected insults to come.  

igbonla:

Good to know that there is some closure coming to this stupidity that could have been prevented if people would listen. The quest for sudden success blinded them all making it difficult for their brains to function as designed; relying on taking some useless risks and believing their gods will make it happen has led them to the expected end. What a shame!

Where is the fool asking us to prove this is a scam and requesting to see the results of our investigations?
Where are the other fools that registered solely to defend this obvious scam?
Where are those other fools that refused to heed the warnings despite several abuses targeted at those they should be praising?
Who is the fool expecting government to prevent this kind of scam despite all help here, and when government is yet to find solutions to bigger problems facing the nation?
And where are the fools waiting to be the next victims of some other kinds of scams?

If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it is not probably a duck but a duck. Hoping someone somewhere will understand that if it is too good to be true then it cannot be true.

And at last, a fool is asking so many questions, hopes to get answers and also feeling like a hero. 

bestinfor:

@Cipriani

But why do these people refused the counsel of people like justwise, etc? I am open to sensible arguement. If they will attack justwise, it should be with genuine, and tested evidence not just hear say and besides, cipriani, from your profile i believe u are not in nigeria, (except otherwise), do u believe from the bottom of your heart that this is genuine?


It's a shame that this is what Nigeria has turn out to be and what fate do the young generations have? Can individual / organisations like nairaland and other blogs do anything about this? We may feel sorry or laugh for the people that fall this victim today. It may be my painful turn or yours tomorrow!

Initially, I did not believe it. I had doubts and I pushed them forward to those who informed me. They gave me a 1001 reasons to believe it was genuine. Some said they have called their loved ones to confirm it; some said they met with pastors who told them it was true; some said a woman was asked to bring N1.5m which was supposed to be the money to returned back to the agency after being taken to Canada when she demanded her passport be given to her and the presence of police also spoken of. I raised the issue of how all the applicants will be moved to Canada, they told me the same way Mecca and Jerusalem pilgrims are moved en-mass. I asked about the accommodation and they told me condominiums were available to take care of that. I could have supported Justwise and the rest but the applicants kept on proving to me that it was genuine. All these information were firsthand. I visited Crystal myself, listened to discussions held by applicants and they all pointed out the reasons why I should believe. Hearing all these, I decided to keep my skepticism to myself and support them. But I was opened to say that anyone with proofs and not just logical reasons should step forward but nobody did except for CanImServ. Everyone was logical in reasoning but applicant gave me facts that they themselves seemed to have verified.  

N101:

Sorry, were your posts I quoted meant to be sarcasm on your part?  You need to work on that some more bro.

Forgive me if I don't share in the sarcasm, especially when there's a lot at stake for some people.

Something tells me this isn't quite over.

 This is over and over, nothing more. I told some applicants who still had high hopes that if they continue to believe a miracle will happen, then they need to be seriously beaten. Anyone who does not get the picture now needs to be slapped a hundred times. The only thing left to do is for applicants to start a proper investigation on how to retrieve their passports. Nobody is going anywhere. If anyone had parted with money, sorry for that person. But if anyone had quit his job and sold his belongings, too bad.  

Rimltd:

THIS BASTARDS ARE STILL SENDING APPLICANTS TEXT MESSAGE,

*****we are sincerely sorry for not meeting up with our exhibition plan as scheduled, we want you to know that the air lifting is most paramount and has been our area of concentration for days now,  we therefore implore you to please bear with us as we will update you as we progress. thanks!. please pass this information to as many applicant you have around,


LOL,  Funny huh?

 This no surprise at all. I had said this earlier today as I was informed by some applicants who still had high hopes. They just want to calm people's nerves and make them not act erratically. The saga continues.   

3. Also, I simply find it difficult to believe that none of the 8,000.00 people (do have family in Canada, or a more enlighten person) to confirm the validity of CS claim. Is the situation so desperate that I should believe an outsider (CS) than my own blood brother or relative who can tell me straight white or black?)

Some people claimed they verified with their loved ones and had called several times to confirm. Most gave me stories about who they called and gave me the confidence it was genuine. I just feel bad things turned out this way.

5. My point is, if the government has failed us in nigeria, shouldn't free media like nairaland and other blogs do more to earn the trust of people that come here for information? Though not a regular blogger, i am more than  happy to suppoort in any capacity I can to verify claims and prevent  possible scams like this in future. Nigeria should not be a free land for scammers to scoops hard earn money from 'simple hearted' nigerians. We can all join hands to support the most affected.

The government has really failed us. Immigration, Police Force, EFCC, Human Trafficking Agency and the likes all failed us. Some people claimed they saw immigration officers come to visit Crystal Service, what did they actually come to do is what I don't understand? Some claimed Anti-Human Trafficking agents were there to confirm the legitimacy of the program and am still surprised things turned out like this. There are so many unclear issues which may remain mysteries to everyone for a long time.  

ogundokun:

the trap many applicants fell to was the packaging of the program 1. You submit passport 2. You go for police clearance. 3. You go for medical check up. Though they gave them option of doing it outside, but ,  They persuade them to drop the cash !

Fraud to wicked, Scam to bad. Even yahoo boys who are scammers themselves fell for it. This is the greatest Scam in Nigeria, West Africa, Africa and in fact the whole world. Plenty yahoo boys dreamt of entering Canada.  7,000 people in one swipe. CNN must hear this.

N101:

First, if the passports are already in Canada, how will the applicants manage to leave the country without them, especially if they're stopping off in Dubai (or is that not happening anymore)?

Second, what will happen to the passports of those who applied but were not successful?

Third, who was responsible for arranging applicants to go to the National Theatre for whatever exercise it was supposed to be?

Firstly, they will fly on broomsticks and magic carpets. Secondly, everyone was successful. And thirdly, Crystal Service was responsible for arranging applicants to go to the National Theatre.
Please, try to appreciate some sense of sarcasm. If we cry or get sober from now till eternity, it changes nothing. People have to just move on.

ogundokun:

what about our passports now

Passports are already in Canada, the government there is just waiting for the applicants.

ogundokun:

something is still baffling me. My friend visited not less 4 pastors of different churches and two alfa for prayer assistance to comfirm if CS is genuine or not before parting away his hard earn currency. But they comfirm positiveness of the program. I dont understand.

This world is full of mysteries. I heard the same thing over and over again from applicants when I visited Crystal and they also gave me confidence that it was genuine. Another life lesson taught.

CanImServ:

Hello Forum Members,
You are right about the fact that people need to come forward in person and act. Condemnations alone can not forestall greedy agents or "scammers". It is easy to point out inconsistencies, but it takes a real responsible mind to spend his/her time to get down to details. if you were at the premises of CS, you did well. I often wonder in the last one month why contributors did not come together on an agreed date to meet at the CS office - or are some forum members working together, talking with both sides of their mouth? I was actually asked this question by a Canadian immigration lawyer that I asked to look at this forum.
It is risky to trust any info coming from any faceless contributor on this forum. I was logged out once when I tried to post a particular information about this scheme, it may be the forum administrator did that! Also, responsible persons were not even willing to come out to challenge the details that we sought to investigate. This can not happen in Canada and I don't know what to say about the consular officer in Abuja. Don't be surprised that even official methods also end up in official scams!
We now need all the persons who feel aggrieved to set an agenda for themselves and come out the same way we have suggested in our earlier posts. Take action. Every step of the way in this country I have met many caveats on this issue - you can't do this and you can't do that - only the aggrieved can form a formidable force in the way we have suggested in the past on this forum.

Good luck

Yes, I was there. Some people who had visas on their passports also applied and they confidently told it was genuine. Most of you just accusing for nothing sake. The thread started in July and all you people gave logical reasons why it's a fraud. I myself visited Crystal to find more information. I asked questions and also listened to applicants who claim it was genuine. Those who visited Crystal among everyone here and condemned it should have spoken out there.

It's unfortunate that even the presence of police when I visited also gave me some confidence. The police issued certificates and never carried out any investigation. Some claimed they were going to let EFCC into this but never did. Now, you are all spitting at me for not speaking out from your perspective. What a shame. Even if I had supported all of you who believed it was a scam, would that have made any difference when so many had paid without verifying themselves. Most of you need a re-think. Accusing me can never ever solve anything. Most people did what they did on their own accord.  

imperiouxx:

Just keep quiet man. I read only page 1[b] where you acted like the coordinator of the program saying let see by Sept if they won't be taken[/b]. That prompted me checking the end where the own thing turned out to be what I was expecting. Who knows how many applied by your assurance alone.

Hush!!! If I said[b] let see[/b] if they won't be taken, does that imply they would actually be taken there. You chose to understand that phrase as an assurance while I meant a suggestion. You all are just not going to gain anything crucifying me.

Among all those who supported, I am still here even though I know I would receive insults. I have only accepted my fate. Life is a teacher and some of us have learnt a lesson or two.  

Now people are accusing me  

What a pity.

justwise:

You are shameless, there is nothing absolutely nothing reasonable that comes out of your mouth.

Cipriani you supported this, (post #2 ) you promoted it,(post #15)  you encouraged and advertised this. You lied that the Canadian embassy/govt is aware of this CS program (#22, #23 and #27)

now you have the cheeky gut to deny it? You are the worst human being ever!! You will get the reward of your wicked act. Good luck

Yes, post #2 said it was real and genuine. But also stated only for those who could take the risk. Life itself is a risk. I have people who fell victim and they were the ones feeding me with information of the genuineness of the program. I had my skepticism but they always found reasons to contradict my doubts. That is the reason I supported it and shared my views. But I still went ahead to put it to everyone who thought otherwise to prove it and you all gave logical reasons with no evidence.  
I also said Canadian embassy was aware but also stated that people should feel free to go and verify. People never verified, never made attempts to prove it was a fake except for few who did too late.  

Nobody should crucify me. Nevertheless I am ashamed of myself. The deed has been done.  

BTW, I am not the worst human being ever, what of the likes of Osama Bin Laden, Ghaddafi, Mubarak and the leader of Boko Haram.  

Life continues, struggle continues.

If you use a medium size wear, I have my own guinea material to give out. It sewn already, just pay me a little cash. At least, I will have money to start a new life. I also have suitcase small size for sale. Just one piece to the fastest buyer.

fogman,:

Ogundoku = Cipriani

You are accusing the wrong guy? Cipriani stands alone and never equal to anybody. Ogundokun is a different entity on it own.

Information reaching me states that Crystal Service are having a management meeting presently. I was informed that a doctor was apprehended by EFCC on forging some yellow papers for medical reports. To all applicants who still have high hopes, don't switch off your phone. I was told text messages would be sent to legible applicants and they should just come with their luggage to whatever location they have been asked to come. From there, it is straight to Manitoba in Canada. No more child's play.