₦airaland Forum

Blaze14k:
Bro if we keep talking about the history of nigeria we will never get tired. Gowon u mentioned was one of the problems we had as a nation. He had his short comings and he regrets it up till today. The bottom line is the north dont trust anyone else and that is the major problem we have.

Gowon wasn't a problem... the Igbos were and are still the problem... If they truly wanted Biafra they could have started processing it as soon as Ironsi took power but he didn't move for dis-integration because like SilverOrLead also said:

"The coup was an Igbo attempt to prevent the minority regions they had been leaching on from leaving .

The discovery of oil in commercial quantities was the icing in the cake that motivated the Igbo to such foolishness."

SilverOrLead:
No . you got it wrong.

The very reason for the coup was to prevent the creation of COR region out of the old eastern region by an act of federal Parliament which had concluded plans to listen to and pass a referendum to determine the creation of COR region.

The coup was meant to both stall such proceedings that were on the docket for the house .

The coup was also meant to murder regional heads that were supporting the minorities .

The coup was an Igbo attempt to prevent the minority regions they had been leaching on from leaving .

The discovery of oil in commercial quantities was the icing in the cake that motivated the Igbo to such foolishness.

You're right.. I didn't know about the COR region..

got this from wiki "the COR State Movement had broken away to press their own case. Thereafter, the British launched a commission led by Sir Henry Willink to look into the misgivings, The Willink Commission initiated the conception of the Niger Delta Development Board (NDDB). The purpose was to tackle the problems of underdevelopment, however, this failed to rise to the expectations of the masses. After much discontent, some of the people attempted to take the extralegal route to achieve their goals."

which means the b:rits scammed the COR states and nothing materialized.. I didn't see anything about federal Parliament having plans to listen to and pass a referendum to determine the creation of COR region..

SilverOrLead:
They are the sole cause of our descent to madness.

Let these people go already abeg.

the bad thing is the Igbos taught they were "doing" the western region when they abolished regionalism not knowing it was themselves and other minorities in the eastern region they were "doing"...

Blaze14k:
Bro ur argument was the igbos where the problem of nigeria of which u took us way back to our independence. So im trying to clear u that aspect.

Look i never said the north controlled the crude. The federal government formed nnpc which bought most of the shares from shell company.

Ironsi never conducted a coup. It was soldiers from the east and one northerner that lead the coup buh the way ironsi handled the issue made it seem it was planned. Also dont forget people were killed in the north and they also lead a counter coup against ironsi. Frankly speaking the tension between the north and the east was really high both of them never trusted each other.

You can deceive yourself that Ironsi wasn't part of the coup...

NNPC was created in 1977... the coup that the Igbos did happened in 1966 and If they didn't abolish regionalism it will mean its Eastern Nigeria Petroleum Company that would have been created and it would have meant that Eastern Nigeria controlled at least 80% of Nigeria's revenue and wealth. which means more jobs, infrastructure, social benefits, healthcare for the eastern region...

but the Igbos were too short-sighted and jealous of the western region been ahead financially not knowing they were about to be extremely wealthy in the coming years and therefore destroyed a regional system that would have made the eastern region the richest region in Nigeria with no other region coming close..

which also means no drug dealing, crime, kidnapping e.t.c in the eastern region because like Gowon said " Nigeria has too much money and they did not know what to do with it " please note Gowon didn't say this before 1966 he said it after 1970.. which means what he truly meant was that "Southern Nigeria has too much money and now that the North is in control the north did not what to do with it"...

SilverOrLead:
They are the sole cause of our descent to madness.

Let these people go already abeg.

European countries will never allow the dis-integration to happen...

the SE ( Igbos ) have the highest/largest or one of the largest gas reserves and deposits in Africa.. they wouldn't want a single ethnic African country to have control over it... as that will mean buying billions of $$$ worth of gas from the Igbos which means the empowerment of Igbos... the good thing is that the Igbos ( an Igbo man I've forgotten his name ) have already built and own the biggest gas plant in Nigeria.

Look at the Ijaws and Bayelsa... the Ijaws don't own a refinery or oil depot e.t.c. A foreign company ( Shell ) owns most of the oil blocks ( I am not sure how true this is ) in Nigeria so anytime B:ritain buys petroleum from Nigeria they ( B:ritain ) are buying from a b:ritish owned company ( Shell ) which means they are buying oil from themselves while Nigeria collects taxes..

If the Igbos did not own the largest gas plant then a foreign company will and can still build a gas plant in the SE and all the e:uropean countries will buy from the eu:ropean company so that they will indirectly keep their money amongst themselves while Nigeria only collects a percentage called taxes...

Blaze14k:
You are missing important part of history bro. During the national consensus that was conducted in 1963 the southern part of nigeria accused the british of inflating the population of the north which lead to political controversy when the results came out. It was used to justify the assignment of most of the seats in the federal legislature to the north.

‘I have no doubt whatever … that the Northern People’s Congress has come to stay and to continue to stay and is going to rule the Federation of Nigeria for ever.’-Alhaji M. Kokori Abdul, Parliamentary Secretary, Northern House of Assembly, 4 March 1964

they didn't control the resources of southern Nigeria so stop deflecting from the main point which is - why are people blaming Igbos... Southern Nigeria was still richer than northern Nigeria until Ironsi and his gang struck...

Blaze14k:
Bro u really need to get ur history right... Abeg where did u read this? Or did someone tell you the story. Do you know the political party that was dominant before nigeria got its independence? Do you the people the British handed most of the political position at that time?

you're the one that needs to get your history right...

After 1960 the b:ritish couldn't hand political position to anyone..
before 1960 the b:ritish also favored the igbos... Nnamdi Azikwe's father and grand-father worked for the british...

Blaze14k:
Bro are you kidding me. You honestly want to go that far? Do you think hausa want us to unit at first?

Its Igbos that didn't want to unite..

in the coup they killed leaders and politicians of other tribes and spared igbo leaders and politicians..

Hausa were the ones that gave Igbos government appointments/jobs in the north.. but after that the Igbos wanted to use that to dominate the north and that's why the northern premier released a video about Igbos wanting complete control.

Igbos didn't give government appointments/jobs to non-igbos in the east..

so who do you doesn't want us to unite

Blaze14k:
i want to know how igbos are the problem of nigeria cos i really dont understand it. How do u justify this when igbos have not even ruled the country for a long time.

Because when Nnamdi Azikwe was president of Nigeria, Igbos carried out a coup and abolished regionalism which made the regions poorer especially in the entire southern Nigeria..

In summary,
Igbos made Southern Nigeria poorer and yet they are the loudest complainers of a situation they created and caused..

winterfell007:
I don't get you ? You. You mean Akwa-ibom should be competing with Johannesburg, are you for real? . Is calabar or Akwa-ibom's population any close to Johannesburg?
Your comparism is not logical

the population is the more reason why the infrastructure should be better than the infrastructure in Johannesburg.

Akwa-Ibom and the other states I mentioned are oil producing states and have access to the sea, also have adequate farming space and good soil,

Akwa-Ibom is the mega-city for the Ibibio, Anaang, and Obolo - Oron...

Are you saying the Ibibio, Anaang, and Obolo - Oron people don't deserve Johannesburg level of infrastructure in their home state

Infrastructural development is not by population...

So I'm the one that doesn't get you..

winterfell007:
You folks should stop comparing Lagos state with Edo or Anambra state, they do not share the same economic profile. Stop forming village champion. Compare yourself with fellow mega profile cities across the continent like Johannesburg, Cairo, Rabat, Nairobi and even your fellow West African neighbours like Abidjan.
Johannesburg doesn't compare herself with Undeba, Johannesburg knows she's the economic capital of SA not Undeba, Cairo doesn't compare herself with Alexandria and others mentioned don't.
Only Lagos is rubbing shoulders with states she naturally has comparative advantage over. It means you ain't competitive, you are lagging amongst your peers

Don't compare Lagos state with those other places because those don't have their FG taking money 90% - 99% of the revenue from their seaports and International Airports which is one of the reasons why Lagos state is building its own seaport and .international Airport..

Lagos state shouldn't be able to compete with Akwa Ibom, Cross River, Bayelsa, Rivers, Delta states.. those are the states you're suppose to be mentioning alongside Johannesburg, Cairo, Nairobi, Rabat..

charlesemeka85:
and what hv eletu done at milan to deserve a call up to the super eagles?

He should first break into Milan’s first team to deserve an invite

He has potential and should be cap tied to the SE... Same way Nathan Tella should also be cap tied to the SE..

If SE had cap tied Bazunu maybe there won't be a goalkeeper problem now.

charlesemeka85:
oga Mk una slow down for this Yusuf and Eletu hype

I'm not hyping them.. SE needs to show the older players that there's a succession plan and that younger and more mobile players can replace them..

Younger players playing in Europe deserve game time in the S.E.

Most of the current S.E players will be in their late 20s and mid 30s by the next world cup.

Danielnino00:
Nigerian coaches?
Didn't Rohr tell the media that he wasn't giving Osimhen game time at the 2019 AFCON because he was too young and not physically fit enough?

Its Eguavoen's own I remembered..

Just like Eguavoen, rohr could have said that due to the NFF telling him to do so... I don't think in the last 10 - 15 yerthe S.E has had teenage striker or wingers or midfielders or defender or goalkeeper who are are labelled wonderkids or very good for their age and good enough for the S.E and even if they are good enough they usually don't get invited...

players like Alhassan Yussuf, Onyedika, Eletu ( in AC milan ).. are not usually invited..

jihday:
these countries are just smarter, if an U-18 player born abroad shows great promise they can bring them to the senior team, if such happens here we’ll see people protesting and saying maybe the NFF have been bribed

Eguavoen said Amoo was too young that his time will come... he was on the bench against Ghana but didn't play... Nigerian coaches don't give young players who are still teenagers who shows potential a chance and the NFF doesn't encourage the coach to play them...

Dsalvo:
You're a fool and an unexposed ignoramus who thinks brandishing Oduduwa flag up and down and calling others "kolo mental" folks hides your lack of knowledge.

In the UK today, London boroughs have translators for Urdu, Somalia, Yoruba, Igbo etal to facilitate assimilation and inclusion of all who are beneficial to society.

According to your simplistic drivel MMIA, our main international point of entry to Nigeria for all citizens of the world, should have only Yoruba language because it is in the SW abi?

What bigger signal of unwelcomeness to the world than that? You're confused bro.

Never let pride in who you are transform into a clannish form of hatred and rejection of others.

Great nations entertain and tolerate non-indigenes but dictate the overarching terms every visitor must live under and subscribe to.

It is not "unwelcomeness" to speak the indigenous language...

go and tell germany, russia, china, Korea, Japan, spain, portugal, italy, greece e.t.c. that they are unwelcoming because they speak their indigenous language in their airports and their country..

MMIA is not the main international point of entry to Nigeria.. It is the main international point of entry to the Yoruba nation..

If people want to visit Abuja then they'll land in Abuja airport. If they want to visit Rivers then they'll land in Rivers airport. if they want to visit Anambra then they'll land in Anambra airport e.t.c..

nobody is forcing anyone to land in Lagos... they bought the ticket to land in Lagos.. they could also buy ticket that land in Abuja, Rivers or Anambra or Akwa Ibom...

the SW does not represent the whole of Nigeria.
It represents the Yoruba people and Yoruba nation..

christistruth01:
It is impossible for a none Yoruba to be Aare Ona Kakanfo

Okay.

Dsalvo:
Mumu. English is Nigeria's Lingua Franca.

How can people like you ever be educated when you think Nigerian airport officials, at our most prominent international Airport, should welcome visitors to our nation in Igbo, Yoruba and Hausa?

English, the world's most spoken language, is our most popular language of communication in Nigeria with pidgin variants.

Anyone with a functioning brain would know it is a non-negotiable consideration, for a nation with ambition, to have an international airport staffed by those with impeccable skills at speaking and understanding English which is also the common language, with variants like pidgin etal, of Nigeria.

Airport in Lagos should speak Yoruba. Airport in any Igbo state should speak Igbo.
Abuja airport should speak Gwari and Hausa.
Kano Airport should speak Hausa.
Borno Airport should speak kanuri and Hausa. e.t.c


Hopefully one day you'll be rescued from your colonial mentality.

christistruth01:
So you actually think that Aare Ona Kakanfo Head of Warlords and Baloguns, Gani Adams is not Yoruba ?

Is it even Possible for the Alaafin to install a non Yoruba to his Highest Military Position ?

Yes it's possible... As long as there aren't protests or riots.

naptu2:
I can't understand why people are responding to that unserious fellow. It should be obvious that his only purpose here is to derail the thread and cause fights.

There is a historical fact, but this guy says that it is a lie, not based on any facts, but based on his assumptions that are totally devoid of facts and truth. Isn't it obvious what he is trying to do?

You mean historical lies.

Dsalvo:
You're a fool and a petty-minded idiot. Did I tell you Nigerians cannot speak impeccable English, Igbo or Yoruba?

Yet, how is Yoruba and Igbo important at the international Airport of any ambitious nation that wants to host, converse with and entertain visitors from all corners of the world?

Has English stopped being the most spoken language worldwide?

My point is that, if open to becoming a first-class nation ready to engage the world, why not present those who can communicate proficiently, at the most universally spoken language, and impressively with visitors to Nigeria? What has this got to do with your clannish involvement of proficiency at Yoruba or Igbo language?

Are you trying to be a clannish nation or an international one? An international Airport is a place where linguistic competence should be a prerequisite condition for a meet, greet and assist job. Same as proficiency at speaking a second language gives higher employment opportunities anywhere in the West today.

Some of you frustrated losers just have your hate radar primed on who to attack and that is why you cannot simply understand the simple and progressive point folks make. I.e put your best feet and people forward.

Empower merit, professional education and solutions providers. Shun 'one Nigeria' quota system insanity that leaves our well-educated graduates at home for illiterate relatives of those who control political power.

Simple principles that have given us the most developed nations of the world today.

If you watch Airport Security on National Geographic channel.. the Italians speak their Italian language, Spain speaks Spanish e.t.c. in their airports..

English is not an indigenous language in Nigeria and should not be the default language in the Airport.

christistruth01:
Bishop Ajayi Crowther that took the Christian Gospel to Igboland against the will of the Anglican church establishment was an Oyo Man from Osogun near Iseyin in Oyo State

His name was bishop crowther.. the Ajayi was a deception strategy.

naptu2:
Ehen! You see! I said it!

You were there when he was born. You were there when he was enslaved. Therefore, you know more about him than he knows about himself.

That's wonderful.

He was actually taken from Turkmenistan.

Another thing is the post says "Dr John Kehinde "JK" Randle was born in Sierra Leone in 1855. His father, Thomas Randle, was a liberated slave from Oyo,"...

If his father was Yoruba then his name won't be Thomas Randle.. it will be a Yoruba name with no e:nglish name at all..

naptu2:
Ehen! You see! I said it!

You were there when he was born. You were there when he was enslaved. Therefore, you know more about him than he knows about himself.

That's wonderful.

He was actually taken from Turkmenistan.

Oyo in that time refers to the Oyo which includes present day Kwara in the Oyo Empire and the seat of power of the Oyo Empire...

It will be impossible to enslave a Yoruba person in the place where the best Yoruba warriors and soldiers will be located in high numbers and the seat of political, economic and social power of the Yoruba Empire..

Unless the people doing the slavery were Yorubas which also means he ( Randle ) will never return to the empire that enslaved him because they ( Yoruba Slave owners if there was ever any ) will still recognize him and probably kill him..

I far as I know.. there were never any Yoruba slave owners in real life... its only in books written by the br:istish or E:uropeans that claims Africans enslaved people in order for the e:uropeans to justify their enslavement of black people globally..

naptu2:
I really shouldn't reply, but I'll give it one try. What does "liberated slave from Oyo" in the passage that you quoted mean to you?

I saw that part.... Don't let that part fool you... it's a lie...

naptu2:
Did you read the article? Where was he enslaved from? Who brought him from Sierra Leone?

The kind of things that you see on Nairaland because of ethnic and political differences!

Anyway, there is no need to take this kind of comment seriously.

the post below

naptu2:
J.K. Randle x3


Dr John Kehinde "JK" Randle


Dr John Kehinde "JK" Randle was born in Sierra Leone in 1855. His father, Thomas Randle, was a liberated slave from Oyo, who had settled in Freetown. He later moved to Lagos. John Randle attended the CMS Grammar School in Freetown, Sierra Leone,

LegendHero:
Iyanmili JK Randle is a Yoruba man. He is one of the returnee slaves back then. They usually have English name due to that reason.

You have lot of them in Lagos island bearing English name. They are Saro.

But why the thing come dey pain you? I know it hurts to see something like this because the sit at home in your landlocked terrorist infested region won’t allow such development.

What am I even saying. Do you even have a culture to exhibit?

He is not a Yoruba man...

He is one of the people who the bri:tish brought from Sierra Leone and gave a Yoruba first name and they tagged him and a lot like him as returnee slaves..

If you read the post. you'll have seen the part below..

naptu2:
His grandfather was the only black person that lived on the Marina in Lagos

why were other Yorubas not living on the Marina because they were against the Br:itish and the br:itish did not empower instead the br:istish chose to go to another country ( Sierra Leone and maybe Brazil ) and get other black people and give them Yoruba first names and tag them as Yoruba and empower them instead of empowering indigenous Yorubas..

and even in this same thread it says "ordinary Lagosians" didn't have their own parks..

naptu2:
Dr Randle also felt that ordinary Lagosians should have a park where they can relax in the evenings.

The good thing is the Dr R:andle had feelings for the indigenous Yorubas and sponsored and built infrastructure for the indigenes.. the good thing is he became Yorubanized and his generations also became Yorubanised.

naptu2:
Dr Randle then decided to do the task himself. He built a public swimming pool in the Onikan area of Lagos and handed it over to the Lagos Town Council to run. He went as far as donating money for the maintenance of the pool. That pool is the famous Onikan Swimming Pool.

Dsalvo:
Indeed. Others may feel the need, good or bad, to compete with us but we no send them.

For them it is "Eshin iwaju ni ti eyin n wo sare".
For Yorubas, we are our own challengers secure in ourselves and our ability.

All we have to do is find a way to live in Nigeria, with others, progressively and without 'one Nigeria' impeding and regressing us as is the case today.

As an example, my focus remains on the fact we can quickly create an intelligence and science-based policing model that can reduce crime at least 50% overnight yet we must contend with the moribund, worthless and archaic NPF full of I'll-trained thugs anyone with money can buy and control.

Same worthless force president after President fail to reform adequately yet reject the call for others to have State/regional policing!!

I remember going to Ghana not too long ago to find young, smartly-dressed and well-spoken staff in charge at Kotoka International Airport. The equivalent of our MMIA.

These young people were impressive and refreshing. They spoke impeccable English with men and women wearing smart blazers. The did not ask for bribes, perfumes or "wetin you bring for us". They simply assisted you satisfactorily and professionally.

Apparently the President, Akuffo Addo, a pal of Tinubu ironically, decided to sack all the old and sloppy former staff to replace them with brilliant graduate who then present the first impression of Ghana to the world.

Ghana has a near mono-culture of around 4 religiously moderate major ethnic group so they lack our feudal and ethno-religious nepotism and infighting. Welcome to a nation, unlike Nigeria, that can implemenf positive changes quickly and is not set up to be her own biggest enemy as Nigeria is.

What I saw in Ghana will never happen in Nigeria, as presently constituted, where the absence of a mono-culture and merit-based system will put throwbacks in charge of progressive folks unless we host regional governance.

If the Ghana President could not move as he did then thing will remain the same to Ghana's detriment.

Yorubas should agitate for what is shown below. All of us. It is not seccession. Merely a call to allow direct stakeholders control the political, socio-economic and administrative processes of their land independently .

The fact we are prevented from doing this is the greatest drawback of Yorubas in Nigeria today. We will never rise if our immense potential will not be allowed to define our lives, in our land, and deliver solutions for us.

You're not Yoruba, you are suffering from colonial mentality... because if you were you'll know speaking e:nglish is not a sign of smartness and intelligence..

and you also described as it as "impeccable English" meanwhile you have never ever complimented your fellow Yorubas and Nigerians for speaking "impeccable Yoruba" and "impeccable Igbo" and "impeccable Hausa".. you have never ever described the indigenous languages as "impeccable" and that's a sign of colo-mentality. you're colo-mental..

Nigeria already has mono-culture and merit based system but your colonial mentality is preventing you from seeing it...

In Nigeria, some regions speak one language and have one culture and that's mono-culture...

there's nothing like a Nigerian culture.. because the word Nigerian is not referring to any Ethnic group or Ethnic nation...

In summary, there is no ethnicity known as Nigerian..

benji93:
Sir I know I am too young to advise you. But please I beg you leave this matter.

You guys judge SE players based on what club they for and that's terrible...

If Osimhen or Moffi was in PSG , real Madrid or Bayern Munich you guys won't be responding like this

elyte89:
U have won d gaffe of d year


The award goes to codemaniacs

When you see Osimhen in next year's top 10 ballon dor list you'll understand what I'm saying..

elyte89:
U don’t need all dis unnecessary comparison

A champions league winner,fifa world club winner amongst odas is not near osimhen,lol ....I no even wan mention d oda wan moffi...moffi ko baba suwe ni

Osimhen is still chasing to meet what Vinicius has achieved

Osimhen will win Serie A this season. UEFA champions league is between Real Madrid, PSG and Napoli.

So that means Shaqiri is better than Osimhen since he won UCL....

charlesemeka85:
Vinicius not near to osimhen and moffi?

Una don start again abi?

benji93:
Ah. . Abeg come back to planet earth.

Napoleon55:
Which Moffi,from which country ?

forgiveness:
Osimhen and Moffi!?

You people should stop mentioning me