₦airaland Forum

lomprico: Good riddance!

abacus Cm: Noah's ark story is actually truth but the only problem is that Bible exaggerates it.Actually the ark was not built for all the people and different animal species in the world but for the people and the animals around him.This is because Noah was not sent to the whole world but to his people only.

tomaagy: If God created all those things in the beginning how difficult would it have been to recreate wat adam couldn't take into the earth, mind you it was human being God wanted to wipe out not insects.

mad nigerian: There is nothing wrong with praying....it is listening to God that Nigerians need to do more.

Most of the time Nigerians pray to feel religious. They forget that part of praying is listening to what God has to say.

That is why we are not prospering as a nation..we are not doing the listening aspect of praying.

KenGali: Processes not just life processes. And if he or them can make such designs as we see, I see no reason why you should not consider him superior as am sure you and I cannot make a stone in this time. I am very safe and confident in his ability to design stable systems in the most volatile environment cause I have seen plenty of such designs of his. And yes I will not allow you the satisfaction of ascribing him to any particular religion. Let's not loose focus my friend, the question is, Is there someone, conscious and purposeful? If yes, then there is no room for Atheism, it sounds too silly in the face of what we know of the world.

KenGali: I have spent more than half of my life studying the processes attributed to intelligent design. I will be very silly to be listening to any renown man telling me nobody is responsible for them. So I sure do not know any renown atheist.

roymary: Sir, there is nothing new i would say to you. Knowing Christ in His true form and how much you believe in him is not physical but more of spirituality. That's what makes it hard on people like you. You need to experience it to believe it . I have experienced it and believe in Jesus as the son of God- When it comes to Christ, atheist do not understand its not all literal.

Teach me about Christ ?? When it comes to the issue of Christ you are NOT an intellect. The message has been delivered- its up to you to believe or purge it.

roymary: I dunno how y'all grew up but someone did not do a great job telling most kids about Christ hence we have men and women from Christian homes who turned out to be atheists. Its disgraceful but it is what it is.

LordAdam: Intelligent design is compelling, but it does not prove the existence of God, if anything it only explicates the need for us to understand our immediate environment because there's a lot to learn.

KenGali: It will be inimical to blame the corrupt mindset that pave Nigeria on religion. Half the people that say they are religious are there only for the social benefits. I think it is either a sociological defect or a genetic defect.

Need I remind you that almost all the principles that define the modern world, from Democracy, to freedom, and human rights are rooted from the Judeo Christian religion, Not to talk of even legal processes. What has failed woefully is the Nigerian brand of religion, not the existence of God.

What we are sure off is that some countries have succeeded with religion. What is to be tested in the next century is whether these countries can succeed again without religion. Can men show empathy and compassion at the level required for a society to survive, without having a religious conviction prompting them to do so. The next 50 to 100 years will tell.

KenGali: You need to go research on this your atheism, Atheism refers to the lack of deities, Theism refers to the existence of at least one deity. If you do not believe a conscious super being exist, then you only believe in random processing that are unconscious. I think you are confused as to what atheism is, do not just adopt the lastest buzz word coming from Wall Street. You need to find out exactly what it is before spreading the word like you are doing.

KenGali: Then you are not an atheist, just not a Christian.
I suggest you allow people their belief in this case. We all know there is someone, we just do not know for sure who he is.
Considering the complications of physical realities, I even doubt we have any senses capable of detecting him in his true form. For the most of it, he might be the same one person being seen from our various perspectives. Like the famous 9 blind men who were seeing and describing an elephant for the first time.
Bottom line is that is why we must all be religiously tolerant. But never say their is no God

roymary: To the faint-hearted viewing this thread- Know your God and hold on to him at all costs. The end shall justify the means. Logic has failed the world and the smart sees beyond the physical- Live right and Consecrate on God and the virtues of Christ---Its the sweetest message ever. I'm no saint but i do not undermine the power in the blood of Christ.

KenGali: It does not have to be Christian. It is universal.
You wake up one morning and find yourself in a desert, and to you left is a white washed building, but no one is with you. You can not conclude you where the first man in that location can you?

All around us are evidences of intelligent design. From the moon stabilising the earth to the huge nuclear reactor we call the sun. It is only stupid to say their is no designer. If you where arguing about who the designer is, I will understand, but saying their is no designer is simply dumb and illogical.

KenGali: Most Intelligent minds that try to find God surely do not have to look far. The proof of God is not the bible, but in his works. The bible is rather an instrument of faith in him, not proof.

tete7000: The basic moral code in Christianity which is the TEN COMMANDMENT has never changed and remain the same till date. What seems to have cause confusion is how to arrive at what the commandments require. For instance what constitute stealing and what constitute fornication, adultery, etc. This has been the major bane in Christendom. However deep in the heart of God nothing has changed in the law.
On your argument on the fact that rules changed in the bible from Genesis to Revelation, I totally disagree. A Christian God is one who progressively revealed himself to man from Genesis to Revelation. Everything in the bible is about one Individual: CHRIST. He is the ultimate Revelation of God, the One who is the Ultimate fulfilment of the Law. When He ascended He sent the Spirit to further lead humanity to all truth. The truth does not change, for Christ says I am the truth and Life.
On whether there are bad atheist, I am not sure there is a good one or bad one. I only know they are a group of people who are united by one common goal: to deny existence of God. They never postulated a universal doctrine of behavior. They seem to speak with one language as far as they need to attack God. Remove God and cold war similar to one between the Americans and Russians immediately after Germany- a common enemy capitulated will develop. Your people have no code of conduct that unite them, Christians at least even with infighting still have basis upon which they agree or disagree as may apply depending on whether you are talking inter or intra denominational.
Finally an atheist like you cannot understand or translate the scripture which requires FAITH rather than pure REASON to understand, as such you cannot be in a position to lecture a faithful person about an experience you do not posses. If you seek my experience throw reason away and adopt FAITH without which no man can please God

onetrack: Slavery is perfectly 'legal' in Christianity. Nice morality there.

Mee234: Becuase you choose not to see. It doesn't make you more of a man but just another person who have decided to exicise his power of free will. If u care to see what God have done, you will see.

chronique: To everyone who says there is no God: all I need y'all to do is to prove to me how man was created/came into existence. If you can tell me how man's flesh was made,how your respiratory system was designed,how your brain was programmed,how the concept of blood being the soul of a man,was achieved,etc;I'd believe there's no God. It's only a fool that will claim He knows for sure,and can give you adequate info on what happened in a place He has never been to. It's only a fool that will come out and contradict historical events that occurred before his/her birth. It's only a fool that will wake up and say a way of life that has been observed by thousands of generations in the past,is false,without giving concrete evidences to prove it. You cannot explain how you came into existence,yet you claim there's no creator or God? Smh. The difference between the fool and the wise is that,the wise will believe there's God,only to find out at the end that there is no God. But the foolish will assume there's no GOD,only to discover at the end,that there is a God that created heaven and earth.