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Goes in and out of coma? Lol. Jonathan and his camp will try to milk this situation in other to put Amaechi and Lloyd in trouble. How can Chinda give an interview from hospital bed and then go back to coma? Hahaha. The man is fine abeg, cultists like him are used to being planked and even matcheted. Nothing new.

texaco1: she is getting negative attention , it is bad for her career
but her career is almost over anyway

It's not like that o! Any kind of publicity works for these people. Someone whose every move makes headline cannot be said to be near the end of her career, far from it. Their stories bore me anyway.

tpia@:
was it chinda or amachree who was beaten with the mace?

why exactly did chidi lloyd attack him, if bipi was the original aggressor?

did chidi say chinda/amachree and bipi were the ones who beat him up prior to that incident?

Here is your answer, read carefully.

Hon. Evans Bipi came to me in the full glare of everybody on camera and started raining punches on me. As his leader, I did not react because I felt that it is something we could settle, whatever it is, maybe I didn’t greet him also. So he continued when that continued, the speaker intervened.
“Then he (Bipi) reached out for the tripod that
stands the camera, used it freely on me. He and
Michael Okechukwu Chinda, who later joined him in the attack, flogged me to their satisfaction. I didn’t utter a word until Hon. Ihunwo graciously asked me to run for my dear life because they had brought people with guns and of course, when I looked at the gallery they were shouting who is the Chidi Lloyd. Who is the Chidi Lloyd?

These people need attention and jobless people here are giving them enough of it.

speedyboi: And on the other thread, Nairalanders don believe the news hook, line and sinker! Sometimes I just feel like crying for Nigerians . They were born and bred in NEGATIVITY

Very bad! When someone posted pics of prisoners sleeping in an over-crowded prison and claimed it was a Nigerian prison, no one asked for the name or location of the prison, they all believed the story. It later turned out that those were pics from a Malawian prison. If this were to be a negative story, they won't be asking for the source or trying to check the authenticity. People are so negative!

Rhea: [size=14pt]What is wrong with jungle justice when we live in a jungle?
What do you want to happen? Hand them over to the police and by next month they will be bailed and then come back and kill the recharge card seller and all those that exposed them?
A thief is a thief. He can repent when he is dead, not before[/size]

The bolded is so true and that's why jungle justice exists. Those against it should provide alternative options with the bolded point above in mind.

breezy047: Walking around like a headless chicken like Victor Moses too did in the same match?

Cut the crap. . .The boys were fresh from nations cup euphoria so ALL of them WALKED around like a headless chicken. . .and you could tell that Martins in particular looked new to the team and just needed 1 or 2 more games to get in synch and blast in his goals.

get one or 2 more games at the expense of our world cup appearance?
Martins left la liga for USA to collect his pension. As far as I am concerned, he has retired.

breezy047: You are very funny. . .

You call that hard-working maestro Martins a spent force when he is still banging in goals?

Look at the stats here.

Martins > (2012-2013, 13goals in 41 appearances) 41% record.

Joseph Akpala > (2013-2013, 1goal in 21 appearances) 5% record.

Micheal Babatunde > (2011-2013, 2goals in 44 appearances) 5% record.

Ahmed Musa > (2012-2013, 11goals in 28 appearances) 39% record.


This is not meant to embarass all these THINGS keshi took to the confederations but sh.i.it has called for it.

Don't wonder why you can't beat kenya convincingly or even beat Namibia atall. . .the answer is there already.
You field a 5% goals record nonsense like babatunde, akpala in matches and you crown it by introducing a Gambo and you expect to score?

Far from it.

You keep struggling in front of goals internationally until you discard all these tiny and useless bits and pieces of cheap quality strikers littering our striking line ups and bring in their FATHERS like MARTIN, ENERAMO and co.

Experience does it in football and Martins still remains the GRAND-FATHER of goals if keshi will 'build' him into the team.

I didn't say so. . .the stat does.

The world cup is approaching. And if suddenly Moses pulls out again or Emenike goes down with injury. . .
Forget your secret million dollars agent business for now push out those inexperienced things and call back the bests of our Amunitions Mr Keshi.

Stop deceiving yourself, 13 goals in 41 appearances is = 31%. Ahmed Musa's ratio is better. You said we couldn't beat Kenya but you forgot your beloved Martins started the match and was running around like a headless chicken until he was substituted.

lawbabs: imagine this foolish Evans Bipi... who cannot even speak well, trying to impeach the governor at the command of Patience Jonathan. He even called her his Jesus Christ on earth @2:14. And some bigots will tell me that Goodluck and Patience Jonathan are not behind the whole fiasco in Rivers State...

watch and listen to @2:14

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKsUBuTm9WE

Fixed!

delors: Now i see you be mo.ron. You have eyes you cannot see. Your fish brain no come help matters. the man giving 'gbo', 'gba' was not the one Chidi Llyod 'mortal kombat' with that mace. isnt that clear enough for you to see? Evans ran out when llyod wanted to massacre him. Fine. The other man in light brown chinos troussers and black jacket that Chid Llyod massacred in the video, more than 4 times, was he the one who punched chidi in the first place? Why are you so daft? Are you madt? Why are u defending the animal? Abi na u him send come social media to dey twist the stories? were!

Yon need brain surgery, do you need a prophet to tell you Michael Chinda must have joined Bipi in beating him?

Hon. Evans Bipi came to me in the full glare of everybody on camera and started raining punches on me. As his leader, I did not react because I felt that it is something we could settle, whatever it is, maybe I didn’t greet him also. So he continued when that continued, the speaker intervened.
“Then he (Bipi) reached out for the tripod that
stands the camera, used it freely on me. He and
Michael Okechukwu Chinda, who later joined him in the attack, flogged me to their satisfaction. I didn’t utter a word until Hon. Ihunwo graciously asked me to run for my dear life because they had brought people with guns and of course, when I looked at the gallery they were shouting who is the Chidi Lloyd. Who is the Chidi Lloyd?

This is what Chidi Lloyd was hit with.
https://www.vesnakozelj.com/wp-content/uploads/image/support_tripod_feet_tips.gif

Abagworo: Lloyd has a fine name and is a handsome man while Bipi has an ugly name and is one of the ugliest men I've seen.

He has a very good dress sense too.

delors: Your fada! Big fool. He twisted the whole story and you open ur dirty mouth to say you are daft....the whole world saw what he did...nodoy saw was was done to him. His cloth was stained as a result of the blood spilled from the other guy in the video. As far as we can tell, he was the aggressor and that is what will count in the court unless of course he can show us an evidence of where and when he was first battered (if ever he was). This is what is called appeal to emotion knowing that the whole world saw what he did. You are a idio.t!

Maybe your free MB didn't let you watch this video you fool. Find a way to watch it this time around.
Hon. Evans Bipi Displays how he punched the
Leader of the RSHA Hon . Chidi Llyod

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Gkau8iLtpk

delors: Wait o...wait o...wait o....this man here, was he not the one who broke the tripod to mortal kombat the man in black jacket? Abi wetin dey happen here so?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXcbMzrYiyw&feature=player_embedded

He was on a revenge mission you daft fellow.

takeprofit: it seems nigerians prefer the leadership of the leadership of those that loot the treasures and store them in swiss banks without doing any work. we may get that soon.

You just described Jonathan there.

MiloRambaldi: Whether Jonathan is involved in Rivers crises or not is still debatable. Surely Amaechi is in deep, quite deep and he's no innocent victim as videos of his supporters and his undisputed involvement in getting the mace shows. How come no one is slamming Amaechi for his thuggery? Abi, no one is insulted by the video of Chidi Lloyd pummelling somebody with the mace? What's with the Jonathan witch hunt largely by the SW and the North? Na waoooo. Even the far worse Obj wasn't as hunted as Jonathan.

Chidi Lloyd was only retaliating, it was easy to tell from that video that he was on a revenge mission. Here is Evans Bipi boasting of how they beat him mercilessly in the first place.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Gkau8iLtpk

Idi Amin: bros mek I ask u, how many times have you seen an american say such about Obama. Let me tell you, you are also insulting yourself indirectly

bros they do it a lot o, the kind of insult GEJ receives is child's play compared to what Obama and Cameron receives in the hands of Americans and Brits respectively, even though they are faring better than us.

I no know book:
I hope you are not taking nairalanders as fools. Where in the video was anybody boasting of beating up Chidi or Ameachi? I did hear anybody mention anybody's name. Good a thing you are not a lawyer, because if you were, a judge may be tempted into locking you up for contempt, if you were to present this video as evidence of someone boasting for beating up another.

I don't care about either side to the fracas, but after watching the video of Chidi hitting a fellow lawmaker with that mace several times over, I came to the conclusion that he is nothing but a thug, and should be in a motor park and not the legislature.

You can go ahead and twist it all you want, but it's not going to fly. Pictures, especially videos, don't lie. Chidi is a tout, and a very wicked one for that matter!

Didn't you see where he was demonstrating how he gave Chidl Lloyd upper cut, before they started shouting, stop the recording! stop the recording! Delete the video! Delete the video! Whoever made this video managed to hide his phone and escape with his video intact. You lack understanding bro.

emorse: What?! A man who won the man-of-the-match award in a game that featured Cavani, Suarez and Mikel? A man who came on against spain and caused them trouble? There's obviously no point continueing this arguement. I rest my case.

Please rest your case because you are disgracing yourself. Forlan didn't touch the ball more than three times against Spain. Uruguay's only goal attempt was Suarez's freekick which he scored. You are a pathetic liar. SMH

AwodwaGyanOniwe: @Colin
SHAME ON U, U FAILED TO POST EVEN "ONE IGBO BILLIONAIRE WHO TOPS BOTH YORUBA AND FULANI".

TOP 20 RICHEST MEN IN NIGERIA
1. Alhaji Aliko Dangote (hausa) – founder of Dangote Group and Richest black man in the world
2. Mike Adenuga (yoruba)– Conoil, Equatorial Trust Bank,
Globacom
3. Femi Otedola (yoruba) – ZENON Oil and Gas 4. Orji Uzor Kalu (Igbo) – Slok Group
5. Cosmos Maduka (Igbo) – Coscharis Group 6. Jimoh Ibrahim (hausa)– Nicon Insurance, Global Fleet
7. Jim Ovia (Ijaw) – Zenith Bank, Visafone

8. Pascal Dozie (Igbo) – MTN Nigeria, Diamond Bank
9. Oba Otudeko – Honeywell Group Nigeria
10. Alhaji Sayyu Dantata (Hausa)– MRS Group 11. Umaru Abdul Mutallab (Hausa)– former Chairman First Bank Plc, Mutallab Group
12. Prince Samuel Adedoyin (Yoruba) – Doyin Group
13. Dele Fajemirokun (Yoruba)– Chaiman Aiico Insurance, Xerox Nigeria, Chicken Republic, Kings Guards etc.

14. Chief Cletus Ibeto (Igbo) – Ibeto Group

15. Raymond Dokpesi (Ijaw) – Daar Communication, AIT,

16. Tony Ezenna (Igbo) – Orange Group

17. Chief Molade Okoya Thomas (Yoruba) – Chairman CFAO Nig and other six french companies

18. Ifeanyi Ubah (Igbo)– Capital oil and gas

19. Leo Stan Ekeh (Igbo)– Zinox

20. Fola Adeola (Yoruba)– GTBank

There are 7 Igbos in the top 20 and a lot of them are topping Hausas and Yorubas. No Fulanis, you don't know the meaning of Fulani.

AwodwaGyanOniwe: @Colin
THIS APPLIES TO THE WHOLE AFRICA. WHAT WHITES BROUGHT TO AFRICA. ;DTODAY WE'RE COMMUNICATING IN "WHITEMENS LANGUAGE ENGLISH". THAT WAS BROUGHT TO US BY "WHITES". EMPTY VESSEL.

South Africa is a little better because the whites stayed longer and actually settled permanently.

AwodwaGyanOniwe: @Colin
SHAME ON U, U FAILED TO POST EVEN "ONE IGBO BILLIONAIRE WHO TOPS BOTH YORUBA AND FULANI".

you don't know the meaning of Fulani, I repeat.

There is substantial evidence, supported by current black teachings, which depict King Shaka dressed in animal skins, that the people living in South Africa when the white man arrived were living in huts made of grass and other basic materials, wearing animal skins, using the most basic forms of technology possible and with virtually no technical ability whatsoever and no writing. Furthermore they lived in a subsistence economy where no material commerce existed. There is abundant evidence and record of this and no black man that I have heard of has disputed this. To the contrary, our President is at pains to wear this tribal dress at certain functions and those involved in the commemoration of King Shaka have made sure that he is depicted dressed in this way. Tribal villages built as tourist attractions stress this very basic, that is "primitive", existence. [b]In fact, there is every reason to assert that if the white man had never come to South Africa Julius Malema would not be called "Julius" and he would be living in a grass hut wearing animal skins if one of his elders had not beaten him to death for insubordination. [/b]He would certainly NOT be wearing clothes, watches, etc produced using technology invented by white men to designs conceptualized by white men, he would not be driving a car and living in a house and using technology such as cellular telephones also invented by white men to designs conceptualized and originated by white men. I am NOT being racist, I am simply pointing out verifiable facts which are available to any person who honestly seeks to establish the truth of South African history. Insofar as the assertion as to the above having been introduced and led by the white man this can be substantiated in countries around the world. North and South America and Australasia, not to mention the rest of Africa, demonstrate essentially the same progression of primitive cultures being advanced by the white man to world class technology along similar lines to that experienced in South Africa. In ALL cases the single common factor is white men and women of European descent. It is vital to recognize that the knowledge, experience, technologies, methodologies, etc, etc that the white man brought to South Africa as listed above were the culmination of development over hundreds and in many cases thousands of years. White people did NOT wave a magic wand in order to be able to do these things, they learned incrementally as a society how to do and make these things and they codified this knowledge and brought it with them. This being so, on what basis is it assumed that people who have not gone through this learning experience can summarily claim entitlement to the same privileges that centuries of learning have purchased for white people? Claim accelerated access, yes, but just "hand it over" and expect it to continue working? Having established the truth regarding what the white man in fact brought to South Africa three hundred years ago and evidenced that Julius Malema (an most of the ANC) is seriously and dangerously misinformed, let us move to some other considerations that necessarily flow from the above:
Some Critical Considerations
Ongoing technological, educational and knowledge and experience advancement led by white men In the 360 years since the white man established the first settlement in South Africa, the sub- continent has moved from a situation in which human beings existed under the most basic subsistence conditions to a point where South Africa has for many years held its own with other countries around the world in terms of Civil Infrastructure, Commerce, Banking, Mining, Medicine, Education, Engineering, Justice, etc, etc – in fact, in all the areas listed above South Africa has, for many years, ranked with the best. Throughout this period the principal leadership has come from white males assisted and supported by white females with some support from people of mixed race and people of Asian origin and some from those of African origin. There HAS been involvement from black people but it is a harsh reality that black people have seldom provided the initiative, the strategic concept, the vision to drive these technological and sociological advances. Black people claim that this is the consequence of "oppression" by whites and, it is so that there HAS been some measure of discrimination and that in later years there WAS some harsh race based legislation. My parents and my generation of my family have NEVER supported that activity and throughout our lives have done the best we can to uplift black people, to work within the democratic mechanisms available to us to oppose apartheid, etc. Accordingly, in reading what I write here you should NOT draw the conclusion that I am some sort of maverick "racist" who has survived from a dark and desperate past. I AM a liberal intellectual who has been passionate about this country all my life but who has recently reached a point where I can no longer contain my concern and feel I must respond to the statements that are being made by Malema and others and the increasingly harsh and hostile discrimination that I experience as a white person. Frankly I am tired of having to fill in race based questionnaires in order to conduct business, I am tired of continuous declarations, right up to the President himself, that there are “too many whites” (the necessary arithmetic and logical equivalent of "not enough blacks". I have worked hard all my life, so have all the white people that I know, I have never received or given so much as a cent in backhanders in order to secure business and I do not know a single white person who has done this. I know that I and my fellow white people and particularly my fellow white men have, through the sweat of our brows, built this economy to what it is today just as our white brethren in many other nations have done in those nations. I do NOT mind sharing what I have but I resent being called a "criminal" and a "thief" and I resent it being said that my forebears brought nothing to this country. I am certain that virtually all white people feel the same way. So, let us consider a few other necessary conclusions from the information that I have presented above: Nobody lifted up the white man The white people of South Africa and, in fact, the white people of the world, have NEVER had a people of superior accomplishment uplift them, teach them new things, give them new technologies, give them access to advanced commerce, etc. The white people of South Africa and the world have developed ALL the significant technologies and methodologies that make up the essence of global commerce and prosperity that are outlined under the headings above THEMSELVES, of their own creative initiative, of their own hard work, long hours, sleepless nights, etc. Yes, they HAVE been ably assisted by people of other races and nations but the strategic creative initiative has come first and foremost from the white, European peoples. In Asia this has been amplified by the Asian peoples who have seized these technologies and methodologies and made them their own and, in some cases taken them significantly further. If we are willing to confront harsh reality there is virtually NO evidence that black African people from
sub-Saharan Africa have in any meaningful way seized the opportunity and uplifted themselves. Yes, they have provided cheap labour but it is apparent in the countries of Europe in particular that those economies have prospered technologically and commercially without cheap black labour thereby evidencing that the white man
does NOT need the black man in order to succeed. Black people have failed to learn critical skills from white people It is time for black South Africans to stop demanding that the white man give away what he has built up through hard work and seek to understand how the white man did it and seek to emulate the white man. YES, we DO have a legacy of the white man withholding this information to some extent BUT there is massive evidence that the majority of black people have failed to learn even the most basic knowledge of the white people. It is several hundred years since white people in simple wagons they made themselves trekked into the hinterland of South Africa as "settlers" – people with ability who were able to take possession of land that was largely uninhabited, where those that were inhabitants were unable to defeat them and where many welcomed the newcomers because of all the nice "stuff" the newcomers brought with them. There is no global precedent, let alone in Africa, of a militarily victorious civilization being OBLIGATED to make right those they overcame, in many cases in history the defeated foes have been utterly destroyed – South African white people are, in fact, characterized by a more generous spirit in this regard than virtually all other peoples. Throughout the history of South Africa black people have VOLUNTARILY come to settle close to the settlements of white people and to sell their services in exchange for the stuff the white man had, be it different kinds of foods, household effects, appliances, etc. BUT there is a huge reality that it is time we all recognize – in that roughly three hundred years white men have developed technology that includes aeroplanes, motor cars and trucks, computers, flushing toilets, electricity, etc, etc – the list is endless. These technologies have replaced the
sailing ships, covered wagons, hand pumps, handwritten documents, etc, etc that existed 300 years ago. Yet still today we see no evidence that the majority of black people have learned to create even the basic necessities and technologies that the white man has passed beyond in his development. Black people build primitive houses that are not to the standards the white man built 200 years ago although all the materials are available UNLESS they use the white man's materials. Millions of black people wait for government housing to be built using technologies, infrastructure, governance, communication, etc created by white people instead of learning how to build houses themselves. The recent uproar about government failing to enclose toilets would be comic if it were not so tragic – the white man has NEVER had anyone to build him toilets, let along enclose them, he designs and builds them himself using technologies he developed. The white man has never had anyone hand over an
economy or business to him, he has built it all from scratch – as Julius Malema correctly observes, the white man did NOT bring anything physical with him – so, by extension it is incumbent on black people to acknowledge that white people have BUILT all that exists in South Africa themselves – yes, assisted by black people but NOT at the strategic, conceptual, creative, executive level. The reality is that the vast majority of black people have failed to learn from white people. Birth control is another issue – most white people voluntarily limit the size of their families, many black people do not – a major reason for the current imbalances is the rate of growth of the black population – large families hinder the ability of people to receive quality education, adequate nourishment, improve living conditions, etc. Visits to the rest of Africa confirm that in the absence of white people black people polarize to the "have's" who have taken over what remains of what the white man left behind and are misappropriating it at the expense of the "have- nots" who constitute the vast majority of the population. I recently visited a Central African country which had imported white South African men to run a mine that belonged to an extremely wealthy leader who had appropriated it during the revolution – black people govern but they cannot exploit their mines without white men. In the same country, derelict farms, once operated by white people who were killed or kicked out thirty years ago are now occupied by black people in crude dwellings who produce just enough basic foodstuff to subsist on even though they have at their disposal the pattern of building of the white man and the land that the white man gainfully cultivated. It is time that we look deeper than "colonial oppression" and recognize that black society does not provide the knowledge and experience necessary to develop and operate an advanced high technology society such as that in South Africa. There are some fundamental things that white people know that the evidence clearly proves
that most black people do not know – these are NOT in the sphere of the obvious areas – there are many highly intelligent and well educated black people BUT most of them are failing to govern and manage this country effectively. For those with eyes to see the infrastructure and economy that was given to black people "on a plate" twenty years ago is slowly decaying and collapsing and going the way of the rest of Africa. The cracks, like the cracks in the roads, are not highly visible but they are there for those with eyes to see. I do NOT believe that black people are stupid, I do NOT believe they are genetically deficient BUT they are doing MANY reckless and foolhardy things, including allowing Julius Malema to spread his poison unchecked, that are in the process of destroying the economy of South Africa. There is critical knowledge and experience that is lacking. There is a critical need for black people to cease driving white people out of business and out of the country and to start seeking to learn from white people at a much more fundamental level. There ARE some black people who ARE seeking such knowledge but, in my experience, they are NOT in the majority, there are far too many in positions of power and influence, with big mouths who are woefully ignorant and woefully arrogant. White people have been generous One of the things about this negative rhetoric that really gets to me is the level at which it fails to recognize that the white people HAVE done much for black people. My family has always assisted black people but frequently that help has failed to produce anything sustainable and been followed by MORE pleas for help. As a child my father regularly trained his gardeners to drive a car, in his own time and at his own expense and then helped them to find work as drivers at a better salary than he could afford to pay. On one occasion he gave one of these men a brand new Toyota Hilux bakkie (pickup), a gift of well over R180,000 value in today's terms. His goal was to enable this friend of the family to start his own transport business and prosper. Ten years later the bakkie was a wreck and the former employee was still working as a driver for a white man. The gift was in vain – he lacked the knowledge and experience to operate a commercially profitable transport business and seemingly lacked the motivation and initiative to find out how to do this. This story sums up other incidents where my family has tried to help and seen the funds invested at significant personal sacrifice squandered unwisely. This story sums up Africa with billions of US$ and Euros and Pounds of aid poured in over decades to produce nothing sustainable other than wealthy black despots who exploit their people and trash their assets and despise white people. Is it any wonder that reports indicate that well over 1 million white people have left South Africa in the last twenty years and that the exodus continues – those with eyes to see and ears to hear the likes of Julius Malema are able to look at the rest of Africa and see the writing on the wall and those with the means to leave are leaving. The problem is, that as they leave the South African economy is being undermined in subtle ways that may take another decade to become visible but where the rhetoric of Malema and his henchmen are steadily accelerating this decline. It is so that in any Eurocentric economy only about 2% of the population know how to create wealth and about 12% know how to assist them – these are the people who are increasingly leaving South Africa. Conclusion I have been highly committed to this country and ALL her people all my life but I now find myself seriously doubting whether there is a future for people of European descent in South Africa other than as the victims of genocide. I believe that right now South Africa is at a fork in the road – either ALL those of goodwill stop driving white people out of the country and stop ALL anti- white rhetoric or the alternative WILL indeed be too ghastly to contemplate. If, having read this, you find yourself able to agree with the essential message, I ask you to forward this to all you think will respond constructively to it. Right now we need those who can see this picture to actively and energetically take CONSTRUCTIVE action to halt the slide into anarchy. From where I sit that means actively educating people, it means acknowledging and being grateful to the white people for the positive things they have brought to this country, it involves actively encouraging white people to remain, it involves ACTIVELY terminating rabble rousing destructive rhetoric, it involves ACTIVE POSITIVE action by the current government to give the remaining white people reason to stay and invest, it involves being honest about the true history of this country and what the white man really DID bring to this country. Finally it involves engaging in active research to understand the intrinsic knowledge and experience that vests primarily in white people, documenting that knowledge and providing accelerated learning opportunities to enable the ENTIRE population of South Africa to profit and benefit from what we have and to GROW the size of the pie and CEASE trying to "redistribute" that which
is not capable of being redistributed – the knowledge and experience that makes the wealth possible. If you are NOT prepared to actively campaign for such action then, if you are black then at least work to make it easy for us to leave, and if you are white prepare for war whether you want one or not. If you do not believe me study the rise of Adolf Hitler (there is currently a program on the rise of the Third Reich on the History Channel) and the start of the Russian Revolution (Dr Zhivago is a good place to start), listen to the rhetoric and compare the situation with Julius Malema and others of his ilk – history is about the psychology of human beings and this is why it is said that "history repeats itself" – it is my sober contention that UNLESS we change something CONSTRUCTIVELY in South Africa VERY SOON, the uprising that Malema is increasingly openly speaking about WILL happen – there are too many desperate people out there with nothing to lose and therefore susceptible to the erroneous message that Malema is broadcasting and which triggered my decision to write this message. I pray that you will give this message sober consideration and then act where action might include distributing this message to all who will listen, it might include publishing it in every newspaper and magazine that cares, it might involve taking to the public stage and entering
www.south-africa-the-real-issues.org/Critical/Mythology/WhitesBrought.aspx

AwodwaGyanOniwe: @Colin
HINTS FROM A SOUTH AFRICAN THE FULANIS ARE FOUND ALL OVER THE SAHEL REGION OF WEST AFRICA, THEIR ORIGIN IS HIGHLY DEBATED AND MOST PEOPLE AREN'T SURE OF THEIR ORIGINS.

Other people with Arab genes in west africa are MOORS OF MAURITANIA, TOCOLOUR OF SENEGAL,HAUSAS,WADABE ETC...PLEASE ASSUME WE DONT KNOW THIS. I SAID I'M HALF WEST AFRICAN BY THE WAY.

so shame yourself and name one Fulani man who is among the richest in Nigeria. Just one.

what the whites brought to South Africa

1. Reading, writing, numeracy, time Reading, writing, writing technology, printing technology, bound books – the ability to duplicate and distribute knowledge, postal services, newspapers, the ability to mobilize and inform people, written instructions, recipes, numbers, numeracy, arithmetic, mathematics, surveying, design drawings, measurement and management of time – the ability to conceptualize and design complex systems, astronomy and navigation -- the fundamentals of creating value without which even the most basic prosperity is out of reach.

2.

Education Basic education within the family, career school teachers proud of their vocation, universities – formalized sharing of established knowledge, equipping with regard to fundamental technical and knowledge principles, creating the foundation for each generation to achieve beyond the achievements of their parent's generation – the essence of growing a civilization from what existed three hundred years ago to what exists today.

3.

Basic technologies
Basic technologies including woodwork, carpentry, cutting uniform planks and beams, making wagon wheels and wagons, wood turning, metal working, weaving of fabrics, knitting, needlework, stone masonry, kiln fired bricks, porcelain, straight, level, plumb – the fundamentals of basic establishment of a place to live and of migrating into unknown territory.

4.

Agricultural and food technology Agricultural knowledge, experience, tools and products. Domesticated and cultivated plant and animal species, trees for timber and fruit, plows, domesticated oxen, yokes, ropes, preservation of food, manufacture of foods from basic materials, a culture of cultivating surplus NOT subsistence and the associated self-discipline – saving seed for next year no matter how hungry you are, cultivating surplus for commercial purposes – the essence of establishing sustainable life in a foreign land.

6.

Commerce
Commercial knowledge and experience, currency, trading, banking, economics, managing finance, motivating and organizing people commercially. Exchange crops for tools, materials, other foodstuffs, etc – the essence of moving from a subsistence economy to a vibrant multifunctional growing economy.

7.

Military technology
Military knowledge and experience, swords, rifles, cannon, explosives, military discipline and drills, enabling them to defeat those who attacked them -- note that they did NOT destroy the inhabitants of the land which they could easily have done – the essence of establishing sustainable economy when surrounded by others who coveted what they had.

8.

Diverse additional technologies Diverse other technologies and engineering -- build ships, bridges, pump water, build dams, imposing buildings, roads, subsequently railway lines -- the diversity of engineering technical ability on which South Africa is today reliant in order to prosper.

9.

Medicine
Medicine, antiseptic’s, antibiotic's, pharmacology, pharmaceutics, surgery, anesthesia, contraception and birth control -- the full spectrum of life sciences to preserve life when confronted with injury, illness,
disease, etc.

10.

Social, government, judicial Cultural, social, religious learning, complex music and instruments, complex art, formal Government, democracy, formal judiciary, courts, codified laws and legal practices, policing, all that was necessary for an advanced civilization to be established.

11.

Strategic and creative thinking, innovation and executive ability More abstract but even more critical than all the above the white man brought strategic and creative
thinking, innovation, logic, decision making and the ability to execute those visions and make them a reality. Problem solving, understanding cause and
effect. The ability to visualize a better future state, to plan how to get there, to mobilize men, assets and capital to make that visualization a reality – the essence of what moved South Africa from the state it was in when the white man arrived to the state it is in today as an advanced industrialized and internationally competitive commercial nation. The ability to MAKE IT WORK!

www.south-africa-the-real-issues.org/Critical/Mythology/WhitesBrought.aspx

AwodwaGyanOniwe: @Colin
TOP RICHEST NIGERIANS ARE "FULANIS AND YORUBAS". Your people aren't there.

They are still blacks and you don't know the meaning of Fulanis.

emorse: Did you find out what his relationship with the Brazilian supporters was like before the CONFEDS? I still maintain that though Keshi is a very good coach, he can be a lot better if only he's willing to learn.

what relationship? He was scoring in almost every Brazil match before the tournament and was tipped to be the best player at the tournament, which turned out to be true. Keshi is doing the best with what we have, we lack talents now. Stop deceiving yourself.

emorse: And his man management skills work only on midfielders right? Did you watch Joseph Yobo play for his club last season? His presence alone on the bench could have been a source of comfort for the team but of course nobody is saying much cos Keshi's gamble just about paid off in that department.
Of course, Balotelli and co. are better but they have also experienced dips in their forms at various times. Can you confidently say that aside potential, Gambo, Babatunde and co. were the best we could offer?

Yes! That how bad the situation is right now, someone posted a list of the top 30 clubs in the world on this thread and only 2 Nigerians canbe found in them. Who are the better players? Osaze who hasn't played since January or Martins who left La liga for the US?

emorse: For your info, Forlan came off the bench against Spain but started every other game except against Tahiti. Says alot about his contribution.

Is this supposed to be a joke?

Top ten richest men in Africa, 4 are South Africans, 3 are whites.
www.answersafrica.com/richest-people-in-africa.html

Among the 295 companies listed on the
Johannesburg Stock Exchange (JSE), blacks
account for just 4% of chief executive officers, 2% of chief financial officers and 15% of other senior posts.
www.economist.com/node/15824024

zetdee: I know most Nigeria agree that without SA, Nigeria will still be living in the stone age, most of them are very greatfull. I know you also agree, I saw your comments on many of these threads, you're just being a troll, I doubt anyone takes what you say seriously.

can you expatiate on that? In what way has South Africa taken us out of the stone age.