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Them get powder yanfun yanfun for dat village sha !

muhsin:
Your tribal sentiment, dude, is sickening. Why this title? Did the newspaper say anything of that sort?

poorly developed brain you mean to say 

Let me get you clear Sauron,

You support the building of a prison in Nigeria by UK govt?

[center]^{*really wondering which asylum becomrich escaped from*} [/center]

Nigeria welcomes UK prisoner plan
Nigeria's government says it is happy with a UK plan to help refurbish their prisons to allow Nigerians in Britain's jails to be sent back home.

Nigeria's Director of Public Prosecution Salihu Aliyu said it was a "positive move".

"It should be encouraged not only between Nigeria and UK but with other countries," he told the BBC.


This guy should be shot ! In essence he's implying, Nigeria is a country of ' awon elewon' (prisoners)??  

God punish you Salihu for saying such.No wonder the Brits have such low regard for Nigerians,if a DPP can make such comments.

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=294138.msg4160741#msg4160741 date=1247160171]How are they culpable. . . . . .If the system in Nigeria is working well, there wouldn't be a massive influx of migrants.
There was a time 1GBP was 1 Naira. Do people run to the UK and live like paupers in em days?
Stop blaming the Brits for our own irresponsibility.

How is this relevant.[/quote]haven't u been reading all my posts?? u seem to be pre-occupied with responding ! Our problems are linked to corruption,corruption is linked to money laundering-UK provides a good home for stolen money.
Solution -UK (& other countries) start making it difficult for corrupt govt officials to launder money,the equation resolves itself backwards !

The Shell example is relevant,becos they are also part of the conspiracy !!

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=294138.msg4160571#msg4160571 date=1247158229]Tracing Saddam and Al Qaeda is a top priority, it endangers the populace.
Fraud or money-laundering does not endanger Britons. . . . .So it is the 10th priority on their list.[/quote]Precisely my point. .  . . . . . . . . our concerns aren’t their priorities, so their ‘prison idea’ shouldn’t ours either !
[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=294138.msg4160571#msg4160571 date=1247158229]If the Nigerian law enforcements cannot stop their corrupt officials stealing money, i fail to understand how Brits can stop em effectively.
U must think the stolen funds have MONEY LAUNDERING inscribed on em.[/quote]Exactly the reason we all cheered Nuhu Ribadu. . . . .  . the Brits are culpable  becos they are deliberately negligent, therefore the social fallouts of these (Nigerian illegals & criminals in the UK) should remain their problem,not ours !
Until they begin to appreciate the link between corruption,money laundering & their social problems & act accordingly they should build more prisons in their country !

I must also state that the US & Germany are more serious in this regard,as they review accounts of their companies & penalise them accordingly(Haliburton,Siemens etc) like someone said,what happened to Shell?? (today Shell became the 1st non-Us company in a while  to top the Forbes Top 500 revenue list )

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=294138.msg4160571#msg4160571 date=1247158229]I know everything there is to know on anti-money laundering schitzo.[/quote]O no you don’t !

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=294138.msg4160571#msg4160571 date=1247158229]U must be very intelligent. [/quote]Don’t patronise me my friend !

tensor777:
@Congoshine
It is the sole responsibility of the nigerian government to ensure there is an effective prison system in nigeria.

So why is the UK trying to build a prison in Nigeria??

tensor777:
The point about money laundering activities is that corrupt officials use front men to launder their ill gotten gains for them.

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=294138.msg4160520#msg4160520 date=1247157629]I don't know why he fails to understand this simple tactics used by corrupt politicians.
They have fronts everywhere. . . . .They send people from Nigeria to come help em deposit funds in UK banks with false names.
How are u going to trace Ben Johnson's HSBC account to Segun Obasanjo?[/quote]Very simple,Ben Johnson should prove how he came across 200,000 pounds whn the highest balance he ever had was 2,000 pounds. pls stop underestimating the abilities of regulators,how else could they have traced Al Qaeda,Saddam & Mugabe's assets?? They(UK) enjoy the interest free deposits & investments. . . . . thats the real story !

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=294138.msg4160438#msg4160438 date=1247156921]Biased? How so?[/quote]Cos u’re probably one of those Nigerians with a british passport who haven’t experience poverty before. . . .
[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=294138.msg4160438#msg4160438 date=1247156921]How do you expect the British authority to know how much a LG councillor makes per annum?
Letz even say they raise eyebrows, these Nigerian criminals always provide proof of income with various non-existent organisations.
It could be a pure water company or a brick-making company in Zaria. If u don't have enough proof to ascertain the funds were stolen or looted, what can you do?[/quote]Well you need to do your research more on UK anti-money laundering laws & the attendant penalties + legal jeopardies.
[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=294138.msg4160438#msg4160438 date=1247156921]Buying an EPL team is a different ball game.
We are talking about hundreds of millions of pounds.[/quote]How dare you say that !!!!
We are talking about the lives & well being of millions of Nigerians. . .  . . education, health care, good roads, how can you opine that the scrutiny associated with a form of entertainment shouldn’t apply to possible leaks of a whole country’s income!!!!!
[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=294138.msg4160438#msg4160438 date=1247156921]It is not expected to help Nigerians.
They are helping themselves due to the overcrowding in their Prison system.
The UK are only transferring Nigerian lags to Lagos so that the excuses of the issue of human rights can be sorted once and for all.
The UK should fix our prison system?
Why did we go independent then?[/quote]Very good ! So the UK is doing what is good for the UK  ,Nigeria should also do what is good for Nigeria

Sauron,
You have said so many things since i last posted I don't know where to start.

1stly you must admit like someone said you are slightly biased in you opinion. . . . .

2ndly,when I refer to moneylaundering,I am mainly referring to government officials,also school fees is just an little fraction of what we're talking about,when a civil servant or LG councillor,or governor;whose annual income is under N4m, coughs out $300,000 to purchase a house in Luton,I expect any reasonable govt to raise eyebrows.

Right now you can't buy an EPL team without going thru due diligence so what are we talking about.

This plan is crap,& has nothing in it for the average Nigerian. . . . . its colonialism revisited.

If they are really concerned ,they should fix ALL nigerian prisons & build 3 or 4 more so that we have an effective prison system . . . . then & only then can the extradition treaty & human rights concerns be addressed.

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=294138.msg4158886#msg4158886 date=1247143119]And you seriously think they don't ask these questions? What planet are you from?
Of course, Nigerian Politicians are smart and they engage enough mules to help distribute their loot.
U actually think Billions of pounds are shipped in by one rich Chief?[/quote]I respectfully disagree,no matter how smart Nigerians are,the oyinbos can very well play the game. the fact is that they've always turned the blind eye cos for their OWN econmic benefits.

hackney:
@congoshine.
Are we talking of their banks now or are we still on Govt policies?

Govt sets regulatory policy. . . .money laundering laws etc

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=294138.msg4158837#msg4158837 date=1247142634]So how do you expect the Brits to prove stolen funds?[/quote]By asking all the normal questions they ask other 'lesser' nigerians - proof of source of funds.

I'm quite sure he(Mode9) should be the son of Mr Babatunde

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=294138.msg4158790#msg4158790 date=1247142021]Trust Nigerians to heap blame on the Brits while ignoring their own short-comings.
It was Thatcher that imposed Sani Abacha on us to steal $5 billion, right?[/quote]not necessarily,but at the very least 50% of stolen funds end up or pass through the UK ! They only started acting after 911.
Almost every local govt chairman has a house in Europe or Us,all their children school in abroad,so they have a part in the blame my friend.

Britain 'to build £1m jail in Nigeria' for 400 prisoners serving sentences HERE
By James Slack
Last updated at 10:40 PM on 08th July 2009
British taxpayers are to provide £1million for a comfortable jail in Nigeria to take convicts whose crimes were committed in the UK.

The prison would house 400 Nigerian inmates incarcerated in our own packed prisons who cannot be forcibly sent home to complete their punishments.

Jails there are considered so rough that any prisoner the UK tried to deport could oppose their removal on human rights grounds.

'Appalling' Jos Prison: To avoid deporting convicted Nigerians to in jails like this - and not face human rights abuse claims - the UK will build new facilities there


But the Government hopes that by spending as much as £1million turning a rundown Nigerian prison into something approaching British standards, the convicts could be repatriated.


Lin Homer, the chief executive of the UK Border Agency, told MPs the deal would save taxpayers' money, because the UK would no longer have to pay the £30,000-a-year cost of keeping inmates in our own jails.


Lin Homer, the UK Border agency chief, said it would save taxpayers' mone


'We are in negotiations with Nigeria to help them establish better prison conditions,' she said.

'It's about helping them generate a structure that can cope with the prisoners. It would be well worth the money to do so.'

But Matthew Elliott of the TaxPayers' Alliance, said: 'It's an absolute scandal that British taxpayers may foot the bill for a Nigerian prison.

'The Government should not even entertain this nonsense proposal, particularly at a time when our own prison service is so desperately in need of funds.

'If Nigerians are here illegally and are going to be deported, we should be sending them home immediately.'

Damian Green, the shadow immigration minister, said: 'This should not mean in the long term we build prisons all around the world instead of sorting out our own deportation processes.'

Ministers have been frantically searching for a solution to the UK's chronic prisoner overcrowding crisis since 2005, when the number of foreign criminals soared past 11,000 - the equivalent of more than one in every eight inmates.


Prisoners have been offered cash windfalls - which some say are bribes - if they returned home voluntarily.

But this is the first time the Government has announced firm plans to provide funding for a jail overseas.

The idea had been suggested in relation to Jamaica, but never got off the ground.

It would require Nigeria to change its laws so prisoners could be sent back without their consent.



Human rights groups say current conditions in Nigerian prisons are appalling.

Amnesty International said there was severe overcrowding, and more than half of prisoners are awaiting trial - some for up to ten years.

During the same home affairs committee evidence session yesterday, Mrs Homer updated MPs on how the Home Office is dealing with two scandals - the 2006 foreign prisoner fiasco, and the discovery of up to 450,000 outstanding asylum claims.

Three years on from the mistaken release of 1,000 overseas inmates without them even being considered for deportation, almost two-thirds are still in the UK.

Incredibly, 87 of the 1,000 convicts - who included killers and sex attackers - have yet to be even traced. Of those who have been located, only 348 have been deported or removed.

The remainder have either been told they can stay - often because removal back to their homeland would be a breach of human rights law - or are still going through the deportation process.

Mrs Homer also revealed that, so far, 197,500 of the 450,000 asylum 'legacy' cases discovered by the Home Office in 2006 had been processed.

More than 30 per cent have been awarded asylum, in an exercise that has been described an amnesty by opponents. At current rates, more than 100,000 people with claims dating back years will be awarded permission to stay in the UK.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1198401/Britain-build-3m-jail-Nigeria-400-prisoners-serving-sentences-here.html#

The question is hausa/fulani NOT Northerners in general.