₦airaland Forum

freezy:
Now guys, dont you think Dr Abati just bit more than he could chew. . .?

No he didn't. . . this is what civilised societies are about-intellectual exchange of view points NOT political gangsterism or illiterate govt contractors.

Nigeria's entertainers have trully come of age & I appreciate the way they defend their own.

Abati has a point & so does Banky . . . .

olabowale:
Allah knows everything.

I’m happy you said this Allah know everything not you,so we all have very limited views on all issues !

Ayatullah:
I was once a stupid christian before Allah guided me to the beautiful religion of islam.

Now you’re a stupid moslem??
These are the kind of unhelpful comments we’re talking about. . , . .
This has little to do with religion, but with taking economic decisions my friend.

PDP is screwing this country hard ! We need to get rid of these pretenders.

creationxt:
@congoshine
Christianity is not a set of rules. It is faith in Jesus Christ and what he did for everyone. It is with this believe that you receive power to live as a Christian. This is our way of life, and it cannot be successfully condemned.

You don’t need to preach to me . . .the rules I’m talking about is hinged on different interpretation of scriptures(Bible/Qu’ran). E.g Deeper life members are discouraged from watching TVs, RCCG says women shouldn’t put on trousers ;Osama believes he needs to kill Americans, some moslem men believe becos the Holy prophet married a nine year old,so its perfectly fine to follow suit ,some Jews believe the entire Middle East is theirs etc.
My point is –the individual interpretation of scriptures is what people now take as the faith itself, which should not be the case. So u find out that people get upset once you don’t agree with their own interpretation of the scriptures. . . . . .

creationxt:
@congoshine
You seem to believe convenience justifies your actions. Why should you work in the tobacco company when your conscience says otherwise, I think its wise to believe in something always. Not atimes.

Because economic decisions require rational decision making. Once the business is legal in the country ,I can review my decisions as long as my conscience is clear. . . . .

creationxt:
@congoshine
Recall, from the Bible only 8 persons were saved from the great flood in Noah's day. You may not predict God's heavenly statistics from the billions on earth. There is always right and wrong, and if you continue doing wrong even when you know it, then there's problem.

Faith has never been rational nor convenient & anyone that believes in God(like I do) should know that. The point Im making is that ,most believers in God(muslims/Christians) tend to believe their way is the right way.
The muslim is just as passionate & spiritual about his religion just as the Christian,Jew (& I dare say the Buddhist,Hindu etc),so for anyone to believe God will decisively punish adherents of the other religion, I think may be far-fetched.

safariman:
As a Banker and a Muslim, I make loans to Churches and Synagogues, which I am told is against Islamic teachings,

safariman:
That is the only profession that I have ever been in and I am not quite sure if it is forbidden since there are bankers in Saudi Arabia, allbeit, they don't charge interest on their loans.

God bless you,this is the point I have been trying to make. The impression ‘Muslims’ & ‘Christians’ who impose these rules on themselves is that this world was created for just your religion,dats is so not true. If the Almighty wanted only muslims or Christians he would get it done in a second. Just like we are yet to fully fathom the miracle of creation /birth ,so no one person should try to define or explain the things of God. This may be hard to swallow ,but its the truth.
By imposing unnecessary rules on yourself ,you loose. God will still remain God whether you further your career or not !

ayinba1:
@javalove
Dear brother,
May Allah strenghten you. Please be not distracted by the non muslim advice on this board. I will stay on the side of being safe only for Allah's sake and I can assure you that in a short while, insha Allah, you will tell us of a better deal/job that came up

You are definitely entitled to your opinion dear ayinba,but these are the kind of vague answers that don't resolve anything.My advice isn't a religious one. Despite the fact that we(both Christians&Muslims) try to believe our religions can solve all problems. . . .they don't, if not nigeria wouldn't be where it is today. We have all being raised into believing no other person can offer advice ,I think this is wrong & unhelpful.

So,give concrete advise not vague general statements.

One thing I have come to realise is that Nigerians are probably the most religious people in the world (christians & muslims) & yet the country hasn't moved forward. please leave your beliefs aside,shouldn't this be cause for concern ?

Both Muslims & Christians create rules they assume God will be happy with,bind themselves to those rules & assume that will get them to 'heaven' even if they continue to live miserable lives here on earth.

The assumption is that 'THe OTHER PEOPLE' (i.e those not following these rules;in this case of Christians -muslims & vice versa) will not make it to Heaven,but you due to some Divine providence will make it becos u have kept to these rules.

I feel most people may be deceiving themselves,becos the impression u get is that all those not applying religious beliefs the way you or your imam or pastor see it means they (the other people) are not worthy of heaven. You may be in for a shocker !!!
God created all  and don't feel you are somehow 'special'. We have about 3 billion non-christians/non-muslims between China & India- so they are all doomed


My suggestion to you: if the business is a legitimate business in the country you operate, please work hard there to take care of your family, until you get something better, don't do something irrational in the name of 'what you think God wants' that you will continue to regret.
I remember while I was serving, some pastor came to us in NYSC CAMP and said as Christians we must not take jobs in breweries etc, I was just wondering then, with all the responsibilities I had & everyone looking up to me back home that I should reject a good offer from NBL
It’s a different case if  your conscience isn’t with it, like I personally don’t think I can work for any tobacco company, however  if I get a really good offer that will change my life. . .  .why not ?!
So please learn to separate your religion from economic matters because NO ONE has all the answers, not me ,you ,my pastor nor your mullah !!

what about the looted dough? If you assasinate w/out the dough whats d point?

they are lucky. . . .this is the military we're talking about.

They could have been shot,you know. . . .