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Skii:
YES!!

very good!

now i know why girls continue to be immoral in nigeria.
men like you aid and abet their shameful acts.

Skii:
Gaddamn (panting) I missed out on all the action fa,

Amazing how fast you have to read through to catch up


Well poster even though the drama is over and though I almost overwhelmingly agree that you should move on, one tiny bit stll says that you should demonstrate maturity for the girl(assuming you are older). what she has with the other guy are just emotions. Feelings that can die with time. Love is different. It embraces forgiveness and keeps no record of wrong doing. If she was unfaithful and you were faithful, big deal. Most of us cheat on Jesus! (assuming you are a christian). Do what you must though. Goodluck Best of luck!!

in his shoes, you would take the back the girl?

jennykadry:
poster can decide to listen to his dykk or his head. You can take her back honey, but prepare yourself with the fact that she might make you pay for all of these not now but after marriage.

A girl that is truly remorseful will camp outside your house until you forgive her. When I offend my husband with my big mouth, I sms him or go look for hhim@ work and apologise, and if we are home, I really apologise.

Truth is, she's more concerned as to whether she made the right decision by cheating on you and wanting to be with the other guy, shes more concerned for her future. I dont know how you will even want a girl that told you she has no feelings for you, are you so desperate?

don't mind them.
some naija men are pussi[i]e[/i]s. . . .

in the next 5 yrs, this same guy would come with another story that he has just discovered his 5 children belong to another man!
a snake is a snake. if she apologises now, she is capable of doing worse later.

4llerbuntu:
this chap is not capable of changing.

just look at him blunder and bluster his way foolishly through irrelevant and indefensible arguments.  im starting to believe he always argued witg fellow dunces whilst growing up and always won by using daft, high faluting grammer and insults.  thats prolly why he adopts the same model here.

una get time sha, your wasting your efforts. the mufu will never admit his errors, nor retract his stoopidity.

this graduate of university of stupidity is here again to show us some of the moronic skills he copped in his masters degree!
why are you so foolish? do you get paid to be or it's an innate talent?

4llerbuntu? the name itself shows nothing intelligent can come out of your being!!!!
why don't you murder yourself and spare us this misery of having to stand your unique foolishness.

ritchboy:
Words are lost on Coogar. . . I can only point out your own contradictions to show you how brilliant you are.

that is because you have the attention span of a slug.

That's at least three different positions(CM - Delap, Striker - Drogba, Support Striker - Rooney) you've listed as playmakers. But according to you: a playmaker's role "cannot be filled by any other position".

football is now fluid, you homoerotic nuisance.
depending on the formation a team plays, a playmaker can be anywhere. but in a 4-4-2 formation(the main premise of this argument), a playmaker would only be a supporting striker. now you are listing drogba(4-2-3-1 + 4-3-3) and delap(an unorthodox playmaker) who is a big exception. the way stoke play is even different to be an example. ritchie, you are a buffoon. use examples of teams who strictly play 4-4-2.

By now it's obvious to all and sundry you are a nutcase and not worth my time.

no, by now it's obvious to the populace you don't argue in a straight line.
you are too dumb not to stagger.

Quick recap of your legendary lines from the last 48hrs:
"Torres scored 33 goals in the English league"

to bitchieboy;

ronaldo scored 53 goals in the spanish league last season(correct)
torres scored 33 goals in the english league in 2007/8(wrong)

what is the difference between the 2?
ritchboy, as you can see - your folly has been magnified by a coogar's telescope.

"There must be a '10'(playmaker role) in a football game because it's played by 11 players"

there's always a playmaker in a football team. someone has to take up that role.
in a strictly 4-4-2 formation. . . .the support striker is the number 10. but your moronic senses started lumping teams who don't play the 4-4-2 formation into the argument to have yourself confused. barca don't play 4-4-2 and so is it for so many teams.

"Crouch is a playmaker"

unorthodox playmaker, i stand by that.

"Shearer, Yorke and Delap are also playmakers"

very correct! shearer held for les ferdinand.
unfortunately, you were not opportuned to watch the premiership back then.

"Drogba is a CLASSIC playmaker"

when he had shevchenko or crespo ahead of him.
2004-6.

"Classic number 10s are used in the hole, Bergkamp at Arsenal is a prime example, but THERE WAS NO HOLE THROUGHOUT ENGLAND"

see this mumu - when did i say this?
when did i say classic number 10s are used in the hole - what a tool!

"Zidane is a 10. 10 was a support striker until euro 2000(4-4-2) formation."

your own arguments. zidane never played in a 4-4-2.
misunderstanding of english language is a big problem and if you mis-interprete  what's been said then you are a tool.

"Camoranesi played for, and won the Champions League with AC Milan"

moronic pedantry!

"A wingers role can be filled by virtually anyone on the pitch"

more misinterpretation from the homoerotic peasant.
a team without natural wingers would use wing forwards or wing-backs.
the winger's role is not unique. a playmaker's role is!

If Jesus knew you'd be born in the future, he would have lived a very long, crucifixion-free life!

if christ knew you'd be born in the future, he would have let the cup pass over his head before you infect 6 billion people of the world with your stupidity. like i said in the definition of a gaynner: the tools already responsible for every single moronic nairaland comment, forum troll, spam e-mail, fraudulent advert and thousands of bestiality websites to have ever existed in the blogosphere.

[quote author=Mr. Chuks link=topic=803617.msg9558397#msg9558397 date=1321316554]My story :

I have been dating my current girlfriend for four years now. I started dating her in my final year in school and it has been wonderful all the way. I love her very much and she used to love me too. I must confess, she has been exceptional. We have been through it all. I'm from a very humble background and she is from same, but despite the challenges we faced, we always pulled through. My whole family (nuclear and extended) know her and her name is a brand name in my family house.

I finally got a job in April this year after eight months of searching. It was not a very fantastic job, but the pay was okay. It was in an industry entirely different from my background (I studied engineering) but I decided to take it and make a career out of it. Unfortunately, this was not to be. The job required that I work Mondays to Sundays and often closing late hours (10pm, 11pm) or sleeping over at the office to meet a deadline. I tried to adjust to the culture but it was difficult. This affected most of my relationships as my friends complained I never kept in touch and my girlfriend did too (though I used to call her almost everyday in the week). I guess she felt it more because she was serving then and had more idle time. I couldn't keep up with the midnight calls, daily calls, etc. But I ensured I spoke to her often and never failed in my financial obligations.

Things at my place of work took a different toll two months ago and I realized I couldn't continue anymore. I weighed my options and opted to join my father at his company. That way, I would be able to earn more and have more time to myself. One of the secondary reasons I decided to resign was also because I wanted to have more time for my girlfriend and my other male friends (some of which had already given up on me).

I called her up and told her my plans and she said it was fine, as far as it would make me happy. I then pleaded with her to come to see me in Lagos so we could spend time together. She stalled for a few weeks and finally showed up. But she had changed. She expressed her unhappiness at the poor communication within the past month and I apologized and promised it would never happen. She kept mentioning it every now and then and I kept apologizing and trying to appease her. She told me she didn't feel anything for me anymore (this shocked me because we never had any issue and the poor communication was for just a few weeks). I explained to her that the relationship was not founded based on feelings neither was it feelings that sustained it for the past four years. I told her I understood and I was glad we could finally work things out.

Unfortunately, the worst was yet to come. She never allowed me touch her and even attempt to kiss me and whenever I asked why, she said the feelings were not there and that "like you said, they would come back with time". She later told me she was going to spend a few days with a childhood friend (known very well by me) and would be back after three days. I gave her some money, she left and never called. I had to call her later that day (since I hadn't heard from her) and her excuse for not letting me know she had arrived was that she didn't have airtime. Like the patient man that I am, I understood. The next day, she didn't still call and same with the third. When I called to ask when she would be back, she told me she was going to stay an extra day. Though I had missed her, I gave my consent and she returned the next day.

Even after she returned, her attitude didn't change but I decided to give her time. I returned from work today, picked up my system to do some homework and coincidentally, her facebook page was still open and a chat window with the guy (I noticed a particular guy used to call almost everyday) was opened. I read through the chat and what I saw still baffles me. In a nutshell, she is dating the guy, he knows about me, they have been making out (not sure about intimate intercourse) and she was even at his place during the three days she claimed to have been with her childhood friend.

What pains me most is that I was going to propose to her tomorrow. I have bought the ring, planned it all out with my siblings and close friends and was happily waiting for the moment. Heartbroken, sad, and angered, I called her, told her my findings, and gave her till tomorrow to decide if she wants to be with me or not. If I don't get a response, I'm calling it off.

It's painful. Four years of hoping, believing and staying committed. Four years of waiting till she says YES. Four years!

At this point, I have become totally insensitive to anything. As dawn approaches, I await her response. I have made up my mind that if she says she wants to be with me, and is remorseful about her actions, I will forgive her but we will need to go back to the drawing board. If she wants out, I will give her 2hrs to get out of my apartment! If she doesn't say anything, I will call it off and tell her to leave.

I await dawn  [/quote]https://images.yuku.com/image/gif/90016767635092c953505893b2683988e4467bc1_r.gif

i am not even surprised about this story.

most naija babes going for nysc are sheisty snakes. . . .and snakes should be put to sleep!
let her go, she's slept with the other dude!

ritchboy:
Hehehe, the problem with Coogar is once you stop entertaining his lunacy, he's actually deluded enough to believe he has "won"
Ergo the wise man's most famous line.
Watch him celebrate his "victory" soon

there's no win/loss here, is there? i have been using your face to mop the toilet bowl since years ago. who claims victory over a gaynner?
every gaynner is someone's b[/i]itch, if you don't believe me - ask debosky!
just spreading knowledge to the areas of the world where football civilization has failed to reach.
learn the band systems. it's very important before you start telling us arsenal now play 0-5-5.

ritchboy:
My goodness, it's still talking!!!

Bergkamp retired in 2004?

more pedantry from the homoerotic peasant.
whether bergkamp retired in 3000 has nothing to do with where he played.

You mean after Euro 2000, the God of Soccer spontaneously declared "10 is no longer a support striker"?
Oh wait, you read an article on zonalmarking about 10s circa 2000 and arrived at the unfortunate conclusion.

you are a tool!
arguing with you is tedious cos you reason upside down.

Crouch is a withdrawn striker/playmaker who "spreads play to his wingers and main striker". Ladies and gentlemen, you heard it here first!
Because they work in tandem you figure one of them is a playmaker?

no, one isn't. . . . .they just managed to beat everything put in front of them without a playmaker. . .
what a schlepper.

Hehehe, i ask you who the wingers were in AC Milan, you drop a massive "Camoranesi" bombshell(initially Gattuso, yea i saw that before you modified it) and you call it pedantry?

ac milan did not play 4-4-2 so there would be no wingers, you homoerotic peasant.
the premise of this debate is traditional 4-4-2 formation before you started calling teams who never played 4-4-2.
ac milan ain't a 4-4-2 team. they sacrifice width for creativity in the middle.

So if i say Messi won the CAF Champions League with Enyimba, you will write it off as "pedantry"?

what a daft analogy!!!!
camorenesi play in serie a. . . .milan play in seria a.
does messi play in africa? i have told you repeatedly - you never got the life you ordered at the counter.

The question isn't whether or not AC Milan have width, it's whether or not they have wingers. Full backs are now wingers?

wingers provide width, wing-backs provide width, wing forwards provide width.
leighton baines makes more crosses than nani + walcott put together. he is the width at everton. everton don't need to put a winger ahead of him anymore. football is fluid. not your playstation. brazil(98/2002) played with no traditional wingers - width was provided by cafu and roberto carlos!
however, they wouldn't have survived without  a playmaker. comparing a playmaker whose role cannot be filled by any other position to wingers(whose roles can be filled by virtually anyone on the pitch) is daft!

"False 9" is a NAME given to a role, what we are debating here is the NUMBER(i.e Name = DM. Number = 4). What number is ascribed to a "false 9" in Coogar's metric system? Please don't say 9.

messi would still be a 9. but a 9 who does not wait for the ball.
he goes to the midfield to collect it making his markers redundant! football has evolved!

From your "holy book" aka zonalmarking:

[i]Real tried to play high up the pitch, but Messi played so deep that Jose Mourinho didn’t know how to deal with him – the two centre-backs stayed in position, but holding a high line. Therefore, Messi could receive the ball in space, turn, then send a ball through to one of the wide forwards coming inside.

Real played high up the pitch, but Messi was STILL TOO DEEP for the CBs to mark. He even had the luxury of picking up the ball between the lines and playing in the wide-forwards COMING INSIDE(i.e to temporarily fill the CF/"9" slot)

Does this sound like a "true" number 9(Shearer) to you?

when did i call messi a true 9? are you such a tool?
i called messi a false 9 - you are asking me whether he sounds like a true 9?
what kind of a stark illiterate is this.

coogar: the sun rises in the east
ritchboy: are you saying the sun rises in the west?

Can you quote anyone from anywhere saying Torres scored 33 goals in the "English league" that season? If you cannot find a single quote from the millions of soccer websites/communities online to back up your next rant then you obviously need to shut up.

Champions League/Carling Cup, olodo!

plenty of quotes!

This is what i said:

Usually being the key word. Are you dyslexic?

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-673205.2336.html#msg9555171

Read your response to the quote "Yorke/Cole, Shearer/Les are also "classical number 10 playmakers"("yes they were"). Dyslexia's a bytch!

Coogar: There must be a 10 in a flat 4-4-2.

Coogar: In a flat 4-4-2, the 10 is a support striker in the hole: i.e Bergkamp.

Coogar: In the Yorke/Cole partnership, there was no man in the hole.

LOLOL

According to Coogar, an out-n-out center forward/"target man" like Andy Cole is a 10   But wait for it, he actually isn't! Or is he? LMAO

see this mumu!
how many times has rooney played as an out n out centre forward and still played in the hole when there's a sub?
some strikers(hybrid) can actually combine the 2 roles and flourish. rooney has even played as a false 9 before against arsenal in the emirates.
dropping deep to lure vermaelen out of the defence and letting nani and js park run into the space vermaelen has left. so because of that, rooney can't play as a "10"?

ritchboy, donate your brain to a giraffe, abeg.

Coogar earlier today: zonal marking said so that[b] classic no 10s were used in the hole.[/b] as at that time, bergkamp was a classic 10 for arsenal between 95 and 2004 when he retired.

"There was no hole throughout England" - - - "zonal marking said so that classic no 10s were used in the hole as at that time, bergkamp was a classic 10 for arsenal"

Arsenal must be a Japanese club then. Talk about a scatterbrain, this boy takes it to unprecedented heights!

This is the last 25 minutes i'm going to spend analyzing your [404: word not found in dictionary]

now i know where your problem lies: you don't know the meaning of "the hole"

the football pitch is occupied by defence(line 1), midfield(line 2), attack(line 3).

so when you see 3 band formations like 4-4-2, 3-5-2, 4-3-3, 4-5-1, 1-6-3, etc there's no man in the hole.
for a man to be in the hole, it has to be a 4-band formation. exampls, 4-2-3-1, 4-2-1-3, 4-4-1-1, 4-3-1-2, 3-3-1-3, etc.

arsenal played 4-4-2 in those years. hell, all the english clubs stuck to their 4-4-2 even when majority of the european teams changed to take advantage of the vulnerable 4-4-2. so i ask again: how did dennis bergkamp play in the hole when his club(arsenal) played strictly 4-4-2 just before euro 2000? if he did not, how come he was referred to as "a classic no. 10" without playing in the hole for arsenal?

ritchboy, it's that simple.
your comprehension stopped because you cannot discern the 3-band formation system and the 4-band formation system.
go and read the book "inverting the pyramid" - i used to be as clueless as you many years ago until that book unveiled the same black mist you have in your vision now.

Sijo01:
They'v been dating for sometime now & according to her, dey'r planning of getting married next year,
bt she's currently pregnant 4d guy & he want her to abort d pregnancy.


wat do u think & wat sud she do?

maybe they won't let them do the wedding in the church. . . .naija churches and their rules and regulations.

ritchboy:
Best defensive midfielder in Europe since 2009. . . You've just succeeded in proving he is indeed overrated.

how is he overrated? who is better than him, alex song?

Of course they told you he's the best thing since sliced bread on zonal-marking and being the mindless creature you are, you've accepted it as the gospel truth!

busquets, a young midfielder who has won almost all the available trophies in club football is over-rated? you are a disgrace. busquets is an excellent midfielder(ignore his theatrics) and if arsenal had a player like him in the last 4 years, you won't be celebrating 7th season without a league title, you palm-oil licking roach!

neyostica:
Mr coogar, you don show again, hope you are not a patron

of course, i am.
i get a commision of 45% on all the wh[i]o[/i]res in lagos from allen ave. to bode thomas to kuramo beach.

Ournaija:
I wonder why parents stand in the ways to their children`s happiness.

because children in nigeria allow them.
when a girl of the marriageable age is still collecting handouts, food, water and garri from her parents then you should know the parents will control every aspect of her life.

kasiem:
I'm of the opinion that we should stop making this sordid act of prostitution appear as a woman thing. The fact is that any person who patronizes a LovePeddler is also a LovePeddler, cos it takes two to tango. We should stop attaching this prostitution to the women folk. Again, any person that have slept with upto five different people in a year is no bettter than a LovePeddler

prostitution is not a sordid act - it's a profession and it's legalized in developed countries.
any person patronizing a pr[i]o[/i]stitute is not a pr[i]o[/i]stitute. that i watch football does not make me a football player.

prostitution and the men patronizing them is an issue of buying and selling.
if there are no goods displayed, men won't patronize. if there are no men willing to buy goods, women won't be selling.

what came first?
chicken or egg?

coogar : coming from someone who supports arsenal. was dennis bergkamp not a "10" for arsenal in his prime?

ritchboy: A 10 is a midfielder in the hole(CAM), Bergkamp played mainly as a forward in the hole(SS).

analysis: simple question, was dennis bergkamp a 10 for arsenal in his prime? ritchboy answered bergkamp played mainly as a forward i[b]n the hole[/b].
it's a known fact arsenal played 4-4-2 when bergkamp was in his prime. there was no hole. throughout england, all english clubs played 4-4-2. there was no 4-3-1-2 or 4-3-2-1 or 4-2-3-1, 4-4-1-1, etc so who was in the hole? the "hole" is the space between the midfield line and the defence line
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inference: ritchboy is clueless!
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coogar: in defoe/crouch partnership, crouch becomes the playmaker.
the balls floated to him are headed in defoe's path for defoe to finish with aplomb. and the traditional english 4-4-2 does not have to play 2 forwards of big target and small target. yorke/cole - who is big and who is small? henry/bergkamp? who is big and who is small? shearer/les ferdinand? who is big and who is small?

ritchboy: Crouch is a playmaker?      
Yorke/Cole, Shearer/Les are also "classical number 10 playmakers"

analysis: here, coogar was asking ritchboy to explain his small man/big man target men theory he argued earlier. coogar asked ritchboy to answer which of henry or bergkamp would be considered small or big. which of shearer would be considered big or small, etc. ritchboy's intelligence failed to synchronise with the pace of the discussion and his final deduction was lying coogar said yorke/cole + shearer/less were classic playmakers.

where in coogar's diatribe did coogar say they were classic playmakers?

as if the brain-infecting disease isn't enough in the gaynner kingdom, debosky(without any clue of the topic discussed) dropped this lie-bomb: Shearer was a classic playmaker!!! a statement coogar never made in his comments. it can be concluded that gaynners lie and are dishonest in everything they do and they make their own arguments and try to win them by themselves.


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inference:
ritchboy and to a far extent, debosky possess the intelligence of an unborn foetus. their existence is a disgrace to humankind.
it'd be a mercy killing to have ritchboy/debosky executed. showing mercy to everyone else in the world before his stupidity spreads to mankind.
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debosky:
NEW PHRASE ALERT!!!
Unorthodox Phool
Definition - a cross dressing coogar called Sharon who thinks Peter Crouch is a playmaker, who demonstrates a quite unusual and uncommon form of deep seated, near-genetic phoolishness.

(c) ritchboy 2011

awwwww, how cute!
a senior gaynner blowing the arse of a junior gaynner - the association of tools!

nairaland gaynners - the tools already responsible for every single moronic nairaland comment, forum troll, spam e-mail, fraudulent advert and thousands of bestiality websites to have ever existed in the blogosphere.

ritchboy:
Beckham played for Arsenal and retired in 2004? This is serious!

idiotic pedantry!
when i see stuff like this, it tells me you are defeated and you are clutching straws to pick holes in irrelevant stuffs.
for the sake of others, i meant bergkamp!

So basically, Zidane isn't a 10?

zidane is a 10. 10 was a support striker until euro 2000(4-4-2) formation.
during the tournament, tactical improvement then placed zidane in the hole - which means classic 10 now played in the hole!!!

Lemme guess, Zidane doesn't play in the hole. . . He plays in the pit!

in the pits of hell where you suck satan's scrotum.

You must be an unorthodox phool, every single louse in your nether region knows knock-downs are affiliated to target-men not playmakers, but apparently you don't.

you are a born tool!
crouch is too slow to even be a centre forward. he plays as a withdrawn striker for his ability to hold the ball against defenders and spread the play to his wingers and main striker.

De Gea is also a playmaker because he can initiate attacks with his kicking, innit?  

yes, no wonder de gea has 30 assists alone this season.
what a reprobate?

Yorke and Shearer were classic playmakers?
Even Drogba is a CLASSIC PLAYMAKER!?!?!?

what a reprobate!
you just want to argue for the sake of it. even a termite knows you are just clutching at straws here.
go and google les ferdinand and alan shearer. after then, google cole/yorke partnership. see how they work in tandem and got goals.

Blunders galore. . . Camoranesi played for AC Milan?

yet again, pedantry that had nothing to do with the argument.
if a team plays 4-3-1-2, they have sacrificed bits of width from their forwards for the creativity in the middle but they would still maintain width by letting the full backs overlap and contribute. this is why you see dani alves, evra, leighton baines, etc bomb forward and produce crosses. so you want to argue those teams don't have wingers when alves, evra, rafael, ashley cole, etc virtually sit in the opposition's half and stretch the play?

ritchboy, go and serve your death paragraph!

Hehehe, Messi is a 9(false). Do you know anything at all or you just copy/paste everything from zonalmarking without grasping what they are even talking about?

so what is messi if he's not a false 9. who were vidic and rio marking in the champions league? eduardo?
messi is a classic false 9 now ever since guardiola pushed etoo and henry wide in 2009 to allow messi initiate play from deep and score.

http://www.zonalmarking.net/2011/08/18/mourinho-messi-false-nine/

i will continue to educate tools of nairaland even though i am not paid to do so.
it's the humanitarianism in me to teach you the rudiments of soccer, you epileptic beast of burden. you are arguing messi isn't a false 9 in 2011?

NONE! He scored 24 goals in the English league(top division), 3 in the League Cup, and 6 in the UCL. If this is beyond your comprehension your name should be written in gold on the brain-transplant list.

this boy is a tool!
fernando torres scored 33 goals in the english league in 2007/8 so stop yapping.
dayokanu who initiated the argument has since recognised his error and has moved on. you are still debating the technical difference between the league of england and the premier league. shame on you.

the all conquering united team of 1999 had no big man, man in the hole. andy cole and dwight yorke were both target men - Coogar 4 days ago!

You have just proved beyond reasonable doubt you are by and far the phatest phool on Nairaland!!!

of course, there was no man in the hole - united played 4-4-2. there was no man between the lines(between defence & midfield)
must a supporting striker play in the hole? cole/yorke were both target men and were both supporting strikers for each other depending on the state of play. keane/scholes were both attacking midfielders and were both defensive midfielders depending on the state of play. this does not mean they perform the roles together at the same instance. when one holds, one bombs forward and vice versa.

cheiiiiiiiii, ritchboy is a dork!

At this juncture i implore Nateevs to hand over the staff to you. Blimey, it should be surgically attached to you cos there's not a single life-form in the universe capable of making less sense!!

i am sure it's still possible to get you aborted legally.
how can a heap of stupidity platelets decides to reside in one human?

just arguing for the sake of it after being exposed as a tool that you are!!!

r231:
bro 2bed is too much o
so whats happen after the yrs rent run out

oga sir, 2 bedroom is not too much.
they are a family of four(plus the baby on the way). how are they going to survive in one room?
before you know it, infant mortality - especially now in naija where lagos temperature would be a furnace

at least we don't want to send him bck to sq one

if we can pay 18 mths rent for them in any 2 bedroom, they should be fine.
their business in the next 18 months should pretty much cover the 6-month advance rent scheme most landlords do in lagos.

just a room somewhere or a room and a parlour that's not too expensive

the idea of one room and a sitting room makes sense. at least, that is like 2 rooms.
4 people in one bedroom itself is crazy.

and like jaybee said maybe expand the woman's pure water biz and the guy can either find a labourer job or venture into a small biz too

did ify ask what skill the man has?
if he doesn't have any skill, he can start any business. if he manages his profit well for 18 months then he should be okay with his rent from then on.
no amount is too small. interested members should contribute what they can muster.

jay bee:
^^^
Probably best not to put a ceiling figure to what needs raising.
What y'all need to agree on is what needs doing and how you go about executing 'em to the best of y'all's abilities.
Money is the least of the problem here

what needs doing is getting them a 2 bedroom apartment and little wonga to expand their business.
mr obuh can also be helped if he starts selling recharge cards/phone accessories.

if we cannot raise £1000 on nairaland then shame on all the members of this forum.
we spend more than half of that on smart phones. in actual fact, this should be an annual project. every concerned member should contribute something every year to help the underprivileged like the obuh family.

dayokanu:
Holland in Euro 2000 played Cocu and Davids as the 2 CM the 4&10

Bergkamp was the support striker the 8 beside Kluivert

cocu is the 4, davids is the 8(roles they often swap in euro 2000)
bergkamp is 10, kluivert is 9.

zonal marking said so that classic no 10s were used in the hole. as at that time, bergkamp was a classic 10 for arsenal between 95 and 2004 when he retired. dayokanu, stop making a mockery of yourself on a public forum.

ritchboy:
A 10 is a midfielder in the hole(CAM), Bergkamp played mainly as a forward in the hole(SS).

a 10 is not a midfielder in the hole, you homoerotic ninny.
that trend only changed in 2000 circa when most teams started playing the trequartista between the lines! it was because teams used men between the lines that even prompted real madrid to make makelele role a global issue. a tackler that will sit in front of the back four to murder the player in the hole!

that is the article from zonal marking -task your brain and use it.

Crouch is a playmaker?

an unorthodox playmaker!!!
what do you call those knockdowns to the path of his strike partners.
see this mumu. he's not [/b]a [b]classic playmaker like the zidanes, kakas, rui costas, etc.

Yorke/Cole, Shearer/Les are also "classical number 10 playmakers"

yes they were. they interchange the roles based on the state of play. this is why we now have hybrid of strikers (10 + 9) or messi's false 9!
players like van persie, rooney, messi,  berbatov, robbie keane, anelka, di natale, drogba, etc. players who can either play as a classic centre forward or a classic playmaker or both! depending on what tactics the manager decide to use, these players can play the lone striker or have a supporting striker. this is why we have 4-3-3, 4-2-3-1, 4-5-1 or 3-5-2.

AC Milan have played without wingers for a long time, your "there must be a playmaker" argument is simply absurd. It's amazing how you manage to say so much but evade the question. Unless you are telling me there are only 11 FIXED roles in football then your argument falls flat on it's face.

i am weeping my butt off at this useless goat. ac milan did not have right midfielders? in 2003, they had camoranesi and zambrotta on their flanks, they won the champions league then. how can you not have a playmaker in a team? it might not be the classic no 10 like the brilliant zidanes, totti or
whatever. blimey, rory delap's long-range throws alone make him a playmaker.
you are a tool!

GK Valdes 1

RWB Alves 2       CB Pique 5   CB Puyol 6   LWB Adriano 3

                                  DM Busquets 4

                           CM Xavi ?        CM Iniesta ?

                                      SS Messi ?
                RF Pedro ?                           LF Villa ?

this is the easiest task i have been asked to do all my life.
because the formation is a 4-3-3 formation employing 2 wing forwards, messi becomes 9(false), villa is 11, pedro is 7.
xavi and iniesta rotate the 10/8 roles depending on the state of play.

anything else?

Why don't you try ascribing numbers to the rest of the team and see how silly you'd look.

piece of cake! i have solved your puzzle within 3 secs.

You've already been found out after making an absolute mockery of your brain, and yet somehow you are still talking.

According to Coogar:

That means there are two "leagues" in the fray - "English" and "Champions". Torres scored 27 goals in the "English League" and 6 in the Champions League, WHILE PLAYING IN THE ENGLISH LEAGUE, while his hair was blond, while you were(and still remain) a mor0n etc etc etc.

Only an idi0t of the highest caliber says Torres scored 33 goals in the English league and vigorously defends it.

if idiocy is a felony, you won't even get the death sentence, you would cop the death paragraph.
in which european league did torres score 33 goals in 2007/8? please answer this question in 2 words.
like i have always said, the use of english language is a huge limitation to you.

Beckham Keane Scholes Giggs

               Yorke   Cole

Who is the "number 10"? If we convert your intelligence to heat, the world would freeze over!!!

the state of play determines who the 10 would be. both are now partners.
just like the midfield. who between keane and scholes is the defensive midfielder? they take turns to fill that role depending on the state of play.
when scholes burst forward, keane must hold and vice versa. similar stuff applies in the attack, when cole holds the ball, yorke must dash forward to receive the pass and score + vice versa. this are intelligent footballers with no static roles. this is football intelligence.


like i said, you won't get a death sentence if stupidity is a felonious crime. you would get a whole page!

dayokanu:
Circa 1996, Del Piero played behind Ravanelli and Vialli So who was he supposrting there?

look at this moronic beast of burden. del piero did not play behind ravanelli and vialli.
he played with all of these strikers. go and check your facts before you disgrace yourself any further.

juventus played 4-1-2-3. ravanelli, vialli and del piero were all strikers or you can call vialli/del piero(wing forwards/support strikers).

Are you this clueless? How many times have we seen players change roles? E.g Maldini played as a Central defender and also as a Left back

this is not about interchanging roles. bergkamp was a classic 10 for arsenal. his strike partner was ian wright and later henry!

Alan Smith is a striker and then became a midfielder? Which of these is too difficult for this clueless w@nker to understand?

what a simpleton! what has this gotta do with this argument?
look at this bushman - trying to deflect the argument into something completely irrelevant.
what has alan smith gotta do with this argument?

Thank you for this link cos it just exposed your cluelessness
A quote from the link
The statement indicates that a 10 plays behind more than one forward.

yet again, comprehending english language is your problem.
the premise of the article is simple. until 2000, classic 10s were support strikers in  4-4-2 formations. but in euro 2000, some teams played the classic
"10" in the whole which led to the early exits of germany and england.

In Euro 2000, Zidane played behind Henry and Duggary/Anelka, Rui Costa played behind Nuno Gomez and Joao Pinto,

see this dork! what part of this article can you not understand.
classic 10s played behind their strikers in 2000, a trend that was unprecedented until then in a 4-4-2 formation. which means before euro 2000, classic 10s were supporting strikers. just like bergkamp did for arsenal!!!!!!!!

This blunt tool from the link see 10 as Rui Costa, Zidane, Which of these 2 were strikers? or played anything close?

you are a disgrace to the people whose hard-earned money you wasted in tertiary institution.
the article told you about the

You listed Rui Costa and Zidane as 10, and you claimed a 10 was a striker/Support striker can you enlighten us on which of Zidane or Rui Costa was a striker in their lifetime?

dayokanu, are you really sure you went to a university.
that article was talking about  the struggle of the classic 10s before 2000, during 2000 euros and after 2000 euros and even right now.
before 2000, classic 10s were support strikers.
during euro 2000, some teams played their classic 10s in the hole. those who did not were eliminated sharply e.g england n germany.
presently, teams have now stopped playing their classic 10s in the hole again.

zidane played as 10 when del piero isn't on the pitch. with del piero on the pitch, zidane played behind piero and inzaghi. you cannot have 2 players playing as "10" in a team. zonalmarking agrees zidane is a 10, and you are using your sketchsports village mentality to argue.
you dey craze?

Totti started as a 10(Midfielder) e.g in 2005 when he played behind Crespo and Sheva which was later drafted to 8 in 2007 (Support striker) playing behind a lone striker Sheva/Inzaghi

zonalmarking says totti is a "10", stop arguing.  in euro 2000, totti was a playmaker supporting delvecchio in the final.
in 2006, it's totti supporting luca toni as the playmaker in italy's 4-4-2.

dayokanu:
Does nateevs even know what they are arguing about on here?

This isnt about a shekpe keeper you know?

45 mins later, dayokanu and his obdurate w@nkers are yet to reply.

in euro 2000, holland played dennis bergkamp(a classic "10" in a role in the hole.
and dayo is telling us bergkamp must have played as "8" for an arsenal side that was strictly 4-4-2?

seriously, i have overestimated the intelligence of many pundits on this section.
y'all just watch football - y'all don't understand the mechanics behind it.

nateevs:
No he doesn't.

don't mind the tool!
he's still disputing torres scored 33 goals in 07/08

he is saying bergkamp was an 8 for arsenal!

debosky:
Your moronic comment about 13 or 21 shows what you were thinking.

if that's your interpretation of what i said, you are even more foolish than hellboy and phat ibime rolled in one.

The relevant question is whether the players mentioned played in a traditional 4-4-2 as  described by hell boy - unfortunately you aren't lucid enough to make the distinction.

you are a big buffoon.
alex ferguson played a traditional 4-4-2 in the days of cantona, you homoerotic pig!
and it was eric cantona and mark hughes striking for man utd. cantona was the 10, a playmaker and his shirt was "7"

dayokanu:
He is a disgrace, I just sat here for the past 30minutes shaking my head that Sharon cant even make any sense again on the pages of NL.

you are a disgrace to football fans.
coming from a man who disputed torres scored 33 goals in 07/08 that you can even post here after your show of shame last night is a sign you have no decorum.

Dennis Bergkamp was a support striker he was the number 8. That he wears Jersey number 10 doesnt mean anything else would you say Henry was the number "14"?

bookmarked in gold!
you are an obdurate w@nker. dennis bergkamp is not a "10"? who is talking shirt numbers here?
what a tool!

A 10 is a midfielder not a support striker. Learn you tool and stop repeating the same hookum all over

a 10 is a support striker in a 4-4-2(english traditonal attack).
the basis of this argument.

In a 4-4-2 The support striker the 8 is usually comfortable with the ball at his feet e.g Bergkamp was the 8 while Henry was the top 9, The 8 would usually have better ball playing skills and drop behind the 9, Like Owen in Owen-Heskey, Like Cole in Cole-Yorke

what an idiotic statement.
how can 8 be a support striker? in which world?

Now you are going outside your comfort zone.

Del piero started his career for Juve as a number 10 Attacking midfielder playing behind Vialli and Ravanelli but after they bought Zidane he moved forward to pair, Vieri, later pair Inzaghi, Pair Trezeguet etc,

del piero has always been a 10 - a support striker. he scores goals, he assists.
always the man to hold the ball and looking at playing the final pass to his strikers.

Same with Totti, Totti is an attacking midfielder, He started by playing behind 2 strikers Montella and Delvechio in the Roma team of 1999 when I started to follow their team closely, In 2000/2001 It became Batistuta-Montella after the departure of Capello Roma stopped playing with 2 strikers and Spalletti was almost playing a 4-6-0 sometimes with no Striker and atimes with 1 striker - Vucinic. In this times he deployed Totti as the support striker 8 beside him

see contradiction.
he is an attacking midfielder, then he became an "8"

I told you when it gets to European football take biro and exercise books and learn.

You are no match at all.

and yet he did not know torres scored 33 goals in 07/08.
relying on soccernet and fa website to analyse torres' goals.
european football indeed.

classic no 10s in europe

kaka
rui costa
zidane
dennis bergkamp
totti


to further expose the idiocy of debosky, ritchboy and dayokanu(the obdurate donkey)
zonal marking said this. . . .http://www.zonalmarking.net/2010/03/26/trequartista-engance-classic-no-10sstruggle/

checkmate!!!

debosky:
The inverted commas should show y'all that he is talking about the role of a 10 in a 'traditional' or flat 4-4-2, not the presence of someone wearing a no 10 jersey on the pitch.

you are a disgrace. . . . .if you think we are talking shirt numbers here.
which of cole/yorke wears a "10" shirt? feral animal!!!

But I don't expect a rabid coogar or a phat phool like nateevs to understand the usage of inverted commas.
Sharon just go and jump in that Scottish lake and spare us all the bunkum spewing.

shaking my head at the mentality of an average gaynner!
i have mentioned zola, cantona, etc and you still think this is about shirt numbers?

debosky, you need to be lobotomized!

neyostica:
Mr coogar am not done with u o, just waitin for the league to resume. Gunner till i kick bucket

so you are a gooner? no wonder you're such a sourpuss!

the war starts next weekend.
i would watch out for you in the battlefield.

don't lose your guard cos i want your head as a trophy!!!

Dyt:
N my name s 2 cm twice huh

you are 2 souls in one babe.

Goldieluks:

coogar i hail oh,notin do you.

i hail too!

nateevs:
"There is no "10" in a traditional 4-4-2. Unless you want to call Jermaine Defoe a "10"

Ritchboy 2011.

ritchboy sold his 98% of his single-digit intelligence quotient for a plate of porridge.
what do you expect? defoe played with berbatov/keane/crouch and ritchboy thinks defoe is the "10"

neyostica:
Mr coogar, y are u takin it out on me, blame your father who violated his mongoloid sister thereby bringin a frustrated coogar into life
@babe i extend my hand in truce, love nigeria so much

neyostica, why are you such a sourpuss!
go home - i wounded you. get some first aid.

meet me in the sports section if you are good enough!

MsDarkSkin:


co0l but let it go.  
i guess I ought to take my own advice  

i am gone!
no more from me - i promise.

my new friends from this glorious ha! thread.

amya
cuddlemii
babe
msdarkskin
dyt
goldieluks
190
sexkillz
badosky
freecocoa
and dyt

you guys can all come to ma crib later tonight.
there's a pool party. swimsuits only.

MsDarkSkin:

coogar let it go hun.

my best friend, i am just kidding here.
i have got no grudges against anyone at all.
honestly!

neyostica:
And u think nigerians give a rat Bottom abt a lost child(except mr coogar who kisses your Bottom)?? Wakeup frm your fantasy

yes, i kiss her bottom.
you kiss a man's bottom and you lick menstrual blood, you son of a thousand fathers.

you have the gall to open that your rotten mouth where intellectuals are discussing. . .
useless herbivore! your teeth is so yellow, when your mouth closes, your stomach lights up.

annawhite:
Jesus christ of Nazareth! Didnt know dis guy was dis weak. . . now where is mrs chima,somebody needs to keep  watch over dis empty sac lest he pull a knife through his heart. . .

if i were as hideous looking as you, i would be on a suicide watch.
seriously, what are you thinking? you think that housemaid(ekaette) look you have there would impress boys? no wonder you open those thighs for your dad. no boy is asking about your wares. i am sure there must be cobwebs between your thighs.

Poor girl why would destiny be dis cruel?dat girl isnt your daughter
God punish you for denying dat girl d joy of knowing her dad

if she's not my daughter, is she yours?
impossible? such a cute girl can never be linked to a gibbon like yourself.

seriously, you didn't get the life you ordered - better kill yourself and hope you get a face as cute as amya!
now, that's one sexy chic.

[quote author=BABE! link=topic=801653.msg9549155#msg9549155 date=1321216976]You're my favorite Nigerian! I'm not a fan of Nigerians.
[/quote]sad!

Goldieluks:
This official NL riot and fortunately nothing to loot.

i have looted a soul already.

ritchboy:
They are all forwards. Because they could play between the lines doesn't make them 10s. A player "in the hole" can either be a second striker(Rooney) or an attacking midfielder(Ozil). Of course it's not always black or white(VdV), however, a 10 is a central attacking midfielder. This is pretty basic stuff.

you are a soccer illiterate. this thread has actually confirmed that and i am happy.
a 10 is a playmaker and he is the support striker in a traditional 4-4-2. the player always looking for the final pass to his strike partner.

coming from someone who supports arsenal. was dennis bergkamp not a "10" for arsenal in his prime?

There is no "Classical No. 10 playmaker"(Zidane) in a flat 4-4-2, otherwise it's not a flat 4-4-2.

there is a classic no 10 playmaker in a 4-4-2. rooney and berbatov have interchanged that role now for the last 3 seasons.

I'm sure you mentioned something about 4-1-2-1-2 and 4-4-1-1 earlier. What you've copied/pasted only talks about a playmaker in a 4-4-2, not the "traditional/flat" 4-4-2 you are talking about. Understand what you're quoting before you quote it.

lack of comprehension is your problem then. of course, these formations are fluid and it changes as the game progresses but to argue there's no 10 in a 4-4-2 is silly. berbatov was a 10 in spurs with defoe as the target man.

Even after lifting quotes from all over the internet to polish your ignorance you still haven't made any sense.

that is because you have the attention span of a slug!

In a traditional English 4-4-2 the two forwards are usually a big target man(Crouch) and a smaller pacey runner(Defoe). So who is the 10 in that formation? The ball-boy?

in defoe/crouch partnership, crouch becomes the playmaker.
the balls floated to him are headed in defoe's path for defoe to finish with aplomb. and the traditional english 4-4-2 does not have to play 2 forwards of big target and small target. yorke/cole - who is big and who is small? henry/bergkamp? who is big and who is small? shearer/les ferdinand? who is big and who is small?

Hehehe, so you think it's about the number of players on the field?

it is - every player has a role to play on the pitch.
otherwise, teams will be fielding 11 pure strikers on the pitch. someone has to be a full back, someone has to be a defender and so on and forth.
you cannot assemble a team without someone assuming the role of a playmaker. ryan giggs played that role for man utd despite him being a traditional left winger.

Does this mean if a defender gets sent off and a striker is sacrificed to "keep the shekpe"( (c) Ibime), there is no left-winger(11) on the field because the team is playing with 10 men?

that's an emergency.
then the team would adjust and go 4-4-1 or 4-3-2 and this is why the advantage is lost to the other team. and in most cases of equally matched teams, the team with more men would win.

Ho ho ho, i laff in father christmas. Even if we use your brilliant definition, 6 of those goals were scored  in the UCL which by your own definition is not part of the "English League"(a composition of all the competitions in England).

6 of the goals scored in the ucl were scored by a player from an english club from the english league!
jeeeez - english league does not necessarily mean premier league. for example, the spanish league produced the highest goal scorer in the champions league last season. . . .it means messi scored those european goals in la liga?

See how you've taken an RPG and blown your phucking feet off. . . Boko Haram are hiring!!!

you are an olodo! telling me 4-4-2 does not have a number 10.
what is del piero for juventus? totti for roma?

goldieluks and sexkillz, enough is enough!

the only positive on this thread is i have gained more friends than foes.

annawhite:
go and father a child,until then i aint got nutting to say to you!
Very soon d whole of NL wil know your story. . .

i have a daughter! i posted it on mrs. chima's thread of cute babies.
if you were actually considering i would choose you to be the mother of my kids, you thought wrong cos you are hideous.

hell, you're so ugly when you were born, the midwife didn't know which end to slap.

[quote author=BABE! link=topic=801653.msg9548966#msg9548966 date=1321215231]@ Coogar; Thanks for shutting sticker note up.

  200-10, you see ya life? When you'll be acting like a geh. lol. If you quote me i'll slap you.  [/quote]anything for you, babe! you are my favourite finn!

in all fairness, 190 has changed!
be merciful!