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montelik:
Evans looks back to his best. Phil Jones was great, but considering d likes Evans, Cleverley & Welbeck cost nothing, it was great to see them play so well.

welbeck was rubbish until his goal.
phil jones, cleverley, evans and anderson were very excellent.
this is anderson's season - he bossed it tonight and got a good goal to cap a wonderful performance.

dayokanu:
Jones? Abeg talk of better players jare.

Even Rabiu Ibrahim better Pass

phil jones is better than any german defender as we speak.
and i have included phillip lahm or any other geriatric in the whole of germany.

phil jones? raped all city's high earners in wembley.
his performance shamed rio and vidic.

chamotex:
Forget the attack for a minute . . . Phil Jones - what a player?
He has everything to be great.

when i saw the starting xi, i realized these players were kept out of it. . .

------lindegaard/kitkat-------------

---rafael---rio--vidic----fabio----

---valencia--carrick--fletcher---park---

------chicharito----berbatov------

the team above will beat every team in the premier league at old trafford.

chamotex:
Phil Jones is a player and half

to think he's only 19 is scary.
he's the closest english player to owen hargreaves i have seen in england.

chamotex:
Welbeck scored one and assisted another . . . he deserves his place in the team at the moment

it's a long season. . . .
there are plenty of games to be played in the season.

tottenham really missed modric today. . . .

phil jones, chris smalling . . .the future of england!!

debosky:
What intelligence from Welbeck. . . . and that nigga Lateefu will be comparing him to Sturridge.

equal abilities in ma own opinion.
sturridge can also be unplayable on his day.

anderson scores!!!!!
this is champagne football.

debosky:
I have always said Lennon doesn't have a football brain - if he did, the score would've been 1-1 at the worst.

lennon is a terrific player.
far far better than theo walcott. . . . .his pass was cut short by the brilliant defence of united. . .

montelik:
Brad Friedel always saves his best performances for United no matter which team he is with.

he's the man of the match. . . .and yet arsene wenger would tell us there's no value for a good goalie.

well done, welbeck!

nateevs:
Hmmm. Berbatov rested again!

same as giggs, park, chicharito and carrick. . . .
they are all washed up?

[b]breaking news: [/b]wenger given another 2-match ban by uefa with immediate effect.

more woes for the gaynners.

eyoniggar:
Sauron, your fada!!

if you had one, you would value mine.

ddippset:
if if if a terminology for losers. If pele was born a colombian, if maradona was born a bolivian, if zidane played for algeria instead and getafe instead, if giggs was a french instead, if fat ronaldo played for almeria and was borrn a canadian, if ronaldinho was born a nigerian and remained at psg . Now figure out the rest douchbag! In life forget ifs. Every standing statistic suggests messi is greater greater greater.

messi is great but he's not greater than ronaldo.
ronaldo has more goal/games for their respective countries.

42 shots messi took in his last 2 competitions for argentina.
he scored zero goals from them - and he is greater?

ddippset:
From what uve been talkin all nite u r obviously one of the daft ones. I know u used the sample space in your home. U say there a more dafts rite? Ok let me do u some math. your pops- daft, your moms- partially daft, your first sister- smart, your first brother- smart, your second sister- daft, you- daft, you third sister-daft. Giving us 5/7. Damn your rite, there are more daft pple in the world. U a genius.

you got it wrong, i used the sample space in ma house. . . .if i am smart, it's genetics - it means both ma parents are smart.
you are daft, it means everyone in your household and the generations before them are also daft. . . .which makes you super-daft. . . . .

messi is being carried by the team. . . . .same way as pique(a defender who couldn't get games in man utd) but who has now won more titles than any of his age mates for club/country. by your daft estimation, you would tell us pique is better than carvalho or vidic, won't you?

your idiocy is spreading. . . . .go and hibernate until you buy artificial intelligence.

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eyoniggar:
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get the fu[i]c[/i]k outta here, you slothful scumbag!

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ronaldo wasn't talented as a youth but won the ballon d'or and fifa player of the year at 23.
so 23 is no youth?

mr dickkset. . . you are chatting shhhit.

another stat,

42 – lionel messi shots in the 2011 copa america and 2010 world cup combined: he failed to score in both. zero
messi is the best player ever indeed.

chelsea's performance. . . .not convincing

osaze should have buried his chance.

olodo:
GOOD GAME!!!!!!!!.if after today's result asene wenger fails to buy then we can start thinking of survival no more top 4 hope simple.

we had a good game just lost to inexperience by Fripong.with him out of the game liverpool just stroll in at will.

arsenal might get knocked out of europe soon.

ddippset:
@ coogar. In 2005 u 20 messi was top scorer and best player. In 2006 messi was a sub 4 argentina. He came in and in less than 20 minutes scored one of the best goals in the tournament. In 2008 messi won the olympic gold and was player of the tournament. In 2010 messi was directly involved in 7 out of argentina's 10 goals, he was argentina's best performer and top 10 best world cup performers. In 2011 he was argentina's best preformer assisting 3 out of their 5 goals. This is messi's noble achievement for country. Cristiano will never match this in his lifetime.

age grade competitions don't count. . . . ronaldo never played in one.
when messi was dying to be noticed amongst 20 yr olds, ronaldo at 19 was tearing euro 2004 apart - got into the team of the tournament, chased luis figo out of the portugese team. all done at the age of 19.

olympic gold is an age grade competition. . . .when i say argentina, i meant the senior team. not messi going to kindergarten competitions to bully players.
what has messi won for the senior team? best player of which tournament at senior level? fat ronaldo won the best player in the world at 19 and at 20.

fat ronaldo beasted in every competition he played. . . .brazil? barcelona? psv? inter? real?
wherever fat ronaldo played, he was called el fenomeno. . . .came back from 2 yrs injury to win a golden boot in the world cup.

no one would say without rivaldo there was no ronaldo. . . .without zamorano, there was no ronaldo.
ronaldo was the team. messi isn't the team whether in argentina or in barcelona and you compare him to maradona and pele?

ddippset:
@coogar, there's really no use picking u up on all of your points because frankly they are trivial and petty. I just gave you 16 live quotes on messi. I hope you really read them. I appreciate that evryone cannot love messi. If pele was playing today critics would say he didnt win the champios league, maradona? They would call him a drug user. Zidane and fat ronaldo they would tell them go prove urselves in england. U amd me are not the only pple in the world. Do it by voting messi win get much more votes than ronaldo. So sorry to say u are in the minority.

there are more daft people in the world than the smart ones.

i have made my point. . . .messi plays in the best team in the world. a team far better than ronaldo's team
if messi's team is better than ronaldo's team then there's no point telling me about messi's ballon d'or - if his team keeps getting eliminated in the q/finals, would he win the ballon d'or?

you talk about quotes. . . .i can bring out a thousand quotes on ronaldo.
how is that difficult to find? but it's tedious - they are quotes, people's opinions which could be right or wrong. the fact is if you take xavi and iniesta away from messi's team then messi is nothing. copa america, check! world cup, check! the previous copa america, check! commebol qualifiers, check!

medjai:
@coogar
There are questions over how Messi will perform in England? What questions? Based on what? size? toughness of the EPL? We've David Silva and Luka Modric take EPL defences to the cleaners on a regular. . . We saw Odemwingie come from Russia and blow the EPL apart. It's the same EPL that Aguero made look like child's play in just 30 minutes. There's nothing to suggest that Messi won't do well in the EPL. His record against English sides speaks for itself.

david silva and luka modric take epl defences to the cleaners? whose defences?
are you a dreamer? the same silva that was beasted by nani or the same modric beasted by lightweights like nasri and tiote.
odemwingie from russia has won what exactly? epl's golden boot? aguero played against swansea. . . .a team from wales, for feck's sake.

so why hasn't torres taken epl to the cleaners? last time i checked. . . .torres is a starter in spain!
tevez had to wait for 6 seasons to win the golden boot in the league with several penalty kicks to his name. . . . .world class players like ballack, robinho, veron, fabregas, robben, kezman, etc have been chased out of epl cos they couldn't cut it.

Messi has to prove himself against Stoke City? Isn't this just ridiculous? Didn't we see David Silva tear Stoke City to pieces in the FA Cup final and also in the league despite coming from La Liga?

david silva did not tear stoke city to pieces and that match wasn't played at the britannia.
this is what i say about barcelona fans. your comprehension skills are lacking.

the question is. . . . .can messi do it on a wet tuesday night in britannia?

Ronaldo has a better goal ratio? If we're to compare strikers based on goal ratio then Darren Bent is better than Berbatov. That being said, Messi has a better goals+assist ratio.

assist is a function of 2 variables. . . .the passer and the receiver of the pass scoring.
since we all agree messi has better team mates who receive his passes and score. . . .you are proving nothing. david villa is better than benzema. samuel etoo is better than rooney. you are just pissing in the wind telling me about messi's assist. . . . .what are his assists outside barcelona?

Ronaldo scores from 40 yards? So does John Arne Riise, what does that make him? What are we gonna say about Xabi Alonso or Ruben Cani that score from before the half way line? Can Ronaldo give inch-perfect 30-40 yard passes like Messi does? Can Ronaldo play 5 one-two touch passes with a teammate and score?

john arne riise scores aerially too? john arne riise scored 42 goals in england something thierry henry(goal machine) never managed.
like i said, you are just pissing in the wind with your daft comparisons pulling isolated football skills. . . .ronaldo is the total package, a better athlete and he was not built via steroids(unlike messi)

ddippset:
This messi ronaldo thing i only do when iam so wasted and so idle. Its a no contest. Most times i think iam out but they pull me right back in.This messi ronaldo thing i only do when iam so wasted and so idle. Its a no contest. Most times i think iam out but they pull me right back in.

but each time you have been pulled back in. . . . .you only come up with the same hollow recycled stuffs about ballon d'or and awards. . . .something messi enjoys very well because he plays in a better team of better players.

messi has played for argentina in more than 5 different competitions where he has not won a single individual award.
this tells me he is nothing without xavi and iniesta. ronaldo won plenty of awards in man utd, he has broken the goal scorers record in la liga.

messi was found out in the last copa america. he has been found out several times in the world cup qualifiers in commebol
he has done nothing outside barcelona - he is nothing outside barcelona.

Effiko:
dis is easier too say dan to say man city's is more lethal dan spurs' . . . I.M.O it is not . . . . .meanwhile i luv it dat we ve gat good history against spurs . . . . .buh being too confident is not too good . . .

how does my confidence affect what goes on the pitch?
am i nani or rooney?

what a shot by tchoyiii!!!!

west brom to get a late winner.

ritchboy:
Messi has nothing to prove in England when he's consistently dazzled England's best teams in the UCL.

such an obtuse reasoning. . . . .messi has nothing to prove for argentina when he's consistently dazzle defenders of different nationalities?
how good messi must be? when zidane, fat ronaldo, maradona, pele, etc were at it. . . . .there were no excuses. they killed teams everywhere they went.

What does Bacelona defending long-throws have to do with Messi? Is Messi a defender

was fabregas a defender when teams like stoke made him look irrelevant in the premier league?
without clubs like stoke in the premier league, fabregas would have won a league title ever since, fabregas profile would have also looked better than it is.

More irrelevancies. . . If Ronaldo and Chamakh swap teams, whose team would win?

ronaldo's team every day of the week.
he carried a very average man utd side to win the champions league in 07/08. . . .

Effiko:
. . .ure asking dis question cos of aguero ? ? ? ? dude

united are the only team in the league who has got spurs in their back pocket.
if tottenham leads 5-0 with 15 mins to go, united will score 6 before the final whistle.

tottenham? tottenham hotspurs?
ask luka modric how he got his team leading 2-0 for 65 mins and still lost 5-2 before the 85th minute.

ddippset:
This whole stuff in infuriating. Whenever the haters want to diss on barca they say madrid is better than barca and will win barca but when they want to diss on messi they say barca is better than madrid thats why messi is good. Madrid matches barca player for player if not more. The difference is that messi always comes up with some magic when they clash and that is always what cr7 fails to do. Whenevar cr7 starts comin up with his own magic then madrid will trash barca.

madrid is better than barcelona? player for player?
do you watch football?

david villa compared to di maria?
xavi and iniesta?
pique and puyol?
alves and abidal compared to ramos and marcelo?

you need to start watching your football on hi-def.
barcelona are far better than madrid. barcelona have more top 10 players in the world than madrid.
barcelona have more stability than madrid. barcelona have a better team chemistry than madrid who keeps shopping n changing.

this is why if chamakh swaps team with messi. . . . .chamakh would outshine messi.
chamakh's team would progress to the next stage of the champions league and messi's arsenal would gnash their teeth.
barcelona carry messi - not the other way round.

chamotex:
I still think Chelsea will win but they will have to raise the tempo a bit.

they cannot win unless they get a dodgy penalty and the kinda dodgy decisions they always get at home.

I'm still waiting to see the impact of AVB on this Chelsea side so far . . .

chelsea would eventually ruin his career.
he's too young and too unsuited to run a club like chelsea where instant success is required. . . . .abramovic is a talented business man but he must be a fool thinking villash-boash can emulate jose mourinho.  

in mourinho's era, there was bottomless pits of money to be spent, jose was brilliant and the real key to jose's success was peter kenyon. taking man utd's shopping list to stamford bridge was the key. from then on, chelsea were able to get all united's targets. essien, cech, robben, ballack, kezman, mikel, etc.

We can see the impact of Roy Hodgson on West Brom from last season compared to Di Matteo
They concede fewer goals now and look to be more solid overall.

di matteo did well too. . . . .i dunno what happened later but i think di matteo had a brilliant start but his team lost morale in the 2nd half of the season and they tail-spinned. i think hodgson thrives under less media pressure. at liverpool, he was always going to fail with the media putting their noses in every move of his.

ritchboy:
Why is Ronaldo immune to this your insane logic? Ronaldo should go and prove himself in Djibouti Premier League before we say he is better than the players there.

ronaldo has done it in the top 2 leagues in europe - where else should he prove himself.
messi's butt has been planted in la liga since age 13 - can he cut it on a wet tuesday night in stoke? robinho couldn't, veron couldn't. . . .are you sure messi can?

P.S. The Classicos have been very physical under Mourinho and Messi has still scored a shitload of goals in them. If Messi can do it against the "world-class" defenders in Madrid i don't know where you got this idea he'll choke against Higginbotham and co that every other team in the league routinely mop the floor with.

you call what clasicos are physical? i need you to email aaron ramsey about playing in britannia.
i am yet to see a bone-breaker in the clasicos under mourinho. . . . .i am yet to see a player going out for 8 months in the el clasico. most of those tackles are nothing. barcelona players are experts at conning the referee and make you believe they have been hacked to death. when the match was 2-2, barcelona stopped diving. the moment they are hacked, they get up instantly cos they needed a goal and they could not afford to waste time fannying about.

mind, stoke isn't even about physical game alone. . . . .it's their mode of play that is catchy.
rory delap launching his javelin throws from the halfway line with the throw assisted from 0.00009cm by kewyne jones' sweat. how are the barca midgets expected to deal with such incursion with villa, pedro, messi, xavi, iniesta, thiago? they would climb on top of each other i guess. . . .

one question that messi's fanboys have not answered. . . . . . .if chamakh and messi swap teams, whose team would win?

debosky:
Too many daft posts on this thread - anyone who thinks Enrique was even 50% as good as Sagna needs a brain transplant. . . .heck he needs to just give up and jump off a cliff.

he was better. . . .stop watching football with rose-tinted goggles.
enrique kept walcott in his pocket all game. . . . .that had to count for something.

i posted walcott is rubbish but then looking at it again, walcott isn't that poor - someone made him look poor.
enrique denied him the useful space and left walcott to run into those blind alleys/cul-de-sac.

chamotex:
These West Brom players can tap footie tho . . . its amazing how a goal can give players so much confidence.

roy hodgson is a good manager and he was able to convince odemwingie to sign for another 3 yrs.
if care is not taken, they would nick points off chelsea here tonight. . . . .there are no easy teams in the league again. . . .

i predicted last weekend, 70 points might win the league this season.

chamotex:
They play shiite for Hamburg
Mancienne against Dortmund the other week looked like an amateur. I pity the guy

shane long is tearing chelsea a new one.
villash boash could be sacked before the end of august.