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ritchboy:
^^ Liverpool will kick United out of the top four

we don't have aaron ramsey in our midfield to score own goals.

[quote author=Mr_TA link=topic=716327.msg8996615#msg8996615 date=1314196143]I wouldnt be that confident about the Premier league.[/quote]all these players will take time to gel in city and chelsea.
see how long it's taken silva and dzeko for instance. . . . .some of them would be instant hits, not all.

united on the other hand got the bulk of their new signings within the premier league.
jones and young have had premiership experience(english too), same as welbeck and cleverley. . . .that would work to our advantage.

the league should be bread and butter for us if we can keep the injury to the barest minimum and go about the games with our standard professionalism. united know how to win games even when the performance is shit. the squad is deep and the manager is not clueless.

i say. . . .bring it on!

[quote author=Mr_TA link=topic=716327.msg8996590#msg8996590 date=1314195930]I hope you dont weep bitterly when he doesnt join. [/quote]weep, no?
but then my expectations of winning the champions league or knocking barca off their perch would reduce.
i will expect us to reach the quarter-final or semis in europe and nothing more.

the league is ours, debarring any mass injury to the squad.

darefestus:
News everywhere linking Us with a late swoop for Nasri. . At this rate some of us would love to believe this.

heaven forbid this. . . . .
what would nasri add to us?

all i know is we are not done yet.
united normally do the team's photo shoot a week(max) after their last signing.

this hasn't been done yet and it's been several weeks after the last signing.
i am confident wesley sneijder is coming by the 31st of august.

ronkebp:
LOL, is it that bad?

it's terrible.
cannot believe anyone would come here and justify what the woman has done.

ronkebp:
I think you are her dream man, she might truely have deep feelings for the other guy, but do not see him as the ONE for her, these things happen, she loves you too, to want to get married to you, do not let that 'i love you' stuff affect your relationship.

this is hilarious.
she loves him too. . . . . . .and if she gets pregnant for the other guy, she still loves her husband to be too, isn't it?
ronkebp, you need to be crucified naked @ the tinubu square.

debosky:
You are a phat phool.
Losing £25m in a time where urgent strengthening of the squad is required via purchases will cause untold damage, not only to current earnings but future earning potential.

arsenal are not stoke or wigan.
£25m loss will not bring down the emirates. your club makes £100m at the gates.

A loss in the CL could lead to a dangerous downward spiral - that is an unacceptable outcome for Arsenal FC.

so what has happened since 2005 isn't a dangerous downward spiral?
if someone told you after arsenal won the 2005 fa cup that the next 6 seasons would be barren, what would you have said?
debosky, you are a fat tool!

debosky:
SMH - so you believe the nonsense DK is spewing?

Losing out on the CL will ONLY cause harm to Arsenal and nothing else.

you are a fool.
which season in the last 6 years was arsenal not in harm?

Cuddlemii:
Noted! But why would you use evil to pay back evil. what is wrong with leaving Judgement for God. Quite harsh of you coogar.

an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth.
if we leave judgement for karma. . . . .all those serial killers and r@pists would be on the streets causing more havoc.

Goldieluks:
harsh approach,to solve a problem such as this.

harsh?
i can bet you don't find what she did as harsh, do you?

Cuddlemii:
Is that the right thing to do?

it's the most sensible thing to do.
babes like that should be taught a lesson.

ffp is mumuface's last resort. . . . . .he believes with ffp, arsenal will suddenly become great.
they have the wackest set of english players in their squad. . . . . .they don't make enough money as man utd. . . . . .they have no sugar daddy.
besides ffp would only rule clubs must spend what they earn. . . . . .the owner of man city will be stopped give city £20m to dop[i]e[/i] their accounts, but he can build 5 stadia for man city. . . . .so plenty of loopholes in the ridiculous ffp.

proudly9ja:
To be honest, Im not putting any hope on the FFP thingy. People always have a way to go round such rules. I am sure the clubs are currently brainstorming on a way out. I don't know why dudu believes so much in this law.

the lawyers are reading the scripts carefully now, looking for loopholes.
so many ways to play around it and continue the spending spree.

if the owner of man city buys 50 million man city shirts @ £20 pounds per shirt through a 3rd party. . . . .how would uefa know who paid what? city would have banked the money and all of a sudden, city's account is doped up by £1 billion which they would use to buy more players.

another example is city wants to buy messi. messi's wages is 300k per week.
city pull messi's agents aside and work it out to pose for the camera and say they are paying messi 50k per week. . . . .then employ messi's parents/relatives at the etihad stadium and pay them £250k per week. . . . . .how would uefa know who has paid what?


ffp is bullshyte. . . . . . .it's just a hoax for platini to continue to stay as uefa president.

dayokanu:
Even if strict FFP comes into play, Clubs like Barcelona, Man Utd, Bayern, even Porto are better placed than Arsenal

Something has to change at EMirate and best case COACH has to change

the so called ffp is bullshyte. . . .
big clubs will get around it and still spend money.
if platini blocks them, it will be a perfect excuse for the big clubs to form the super league they have always wanted to do.

take the highest spenders)real madrid, barcelona, man utd, chelsea, bayern, etc) out of the champions league and uefa would be as broke as nigerian football federation. uefa need the big clubs, not vice versa.
camp nou's name can be sold to the qataris which would fetch hundreds of millions to barcelona. . . .same as the bernebau or old trafford. big clubs will continue to spend regardless of the ffp.

proudly9ja:
Hoping for a loss? God forbid. A loss won't do us any good. Dropping out of the CL doesnt mean we will play less number of matches as there's still the Europa league to navigate.

the goal is not about reducing the number of matches. . . . .the goal is to make the board sit tight and realize the standards have dropped considerably. all these years, the board can't be bothered about re-investing in the team cos wenger kept getting arsenal to the knock-out phases in elite europe. the board are happy with that and they keep the proceeds. . . .which is working against arsenal in the grand scheme of things. . .

getting eliminated tonight would trigger an outcry. . .
the board would then release the funds that would make arsenal stay in the top four this season to automatically qualify for the next champions league and with the quality squad this year, arsenal can then make a proper challenge for the league title from 2012 upwards.
failing that, your trophyless season run would hit 20.

I'm not sure why anyone (asides ManU fans ofcourse) will wish we lose to Udinese.
Arsenal will qualify.

small pain now. . . . .long laughter later. . . . .lose now to win later!
i call it tactical sacrifice.

proudly9ja:
Dis guy, u dey fear to play Arsenal later on in the competition ni?

fear arsenal?
there's no english club capable of stopping fergie's man utd in europe. . . . .home/away victories guaranteed!

I actually dreamt we conceeded another own goal and also by one of our 'new' players. *perishevilthoughts*
No matter what, a draw or a win for Arsenal!

arsenal fans should be hoping for a loss.
granted, arsenal's season would be tacky but it's been like that for 6 seasons. . . .but this would actually make wenger and the arsenal board sit up and do the necessary changes to completely overhaul the team.

an arsenal victory would paper the cracks like it has been since 2005.
gaynners should open their eyes and think of the long term not the instant orgasmic feeling they would get by beating udinese.
beating udinese or not, arsenal have regressed massively. . . . .

jellyface:
Hi all, its very sad that after several years of dating and recognition of our relationship by both families, she stabbed me in d back by confessing her luv to another man in a mail sent to this strange man. Its so shocking that a lady who claims she cant breathe without me and has been planning our union eagerly cud do such a thing. She wrote that shes gat feelings for this man who is her friend and boldly wrote the words ''I LOVE YOU''. Imagine such heartbreak, i dont know wat 2 do bout dis. someone help!

save the email and print it for keeps. . . .
guzzle few glasses of liquor to ease the pains. . . . .don't alert her yet.
invite her to your crib. . . . .give her a parting shot in the bedroom and dump her afterwards.
if you forgive this woman, then you are a fooooool!

proudly9ja:
Looks like what Arsene will play barring injuries. I wish there's a way we can play RVP in a more withdrawn role. Il expect Gervinho and Walcott to make plenty movements in front of him like they've been doing.
I predict a draw or an outright win for Arsenal. I don't see Udinese winning this (unless ofcourse someone gets a red card again).

udinese 3-1 arsenal.

mogbomoya:
I want to share my experience of my encounter with Dr. Haastrup. Am not saying authentically that he is scam but am pointing towards that direction.
I have been TTC for 11 months and am a silent reader of Arlington's tread (TTC). Dr. Haastrup came on board and I got impressed with his level of information and his st. nicholas email addy. I decided to give him a call. I read my hormone profile result to him, and he told me outrightly that my biological age was ticking and I should act fast. I panicked and agreed to meet him up at luth. Not knowing my way there, he agreed to pick me up at Obalende, he was really nice and I was impressed with his kind gestures. Alarm bell started ringing when he was overly nice, waited for me infront of Oceanic bank and called me numerous times.
I picked him, and I commented on how nice he was, and gave me some tales on how it's just his nature. We got to luth and I was expecting us to go to his office, but alas he took me to some dingy doctor's hostel. I told him, I was uncomfortable but he sweet talked me out of it.
Every being in me wanted to turn back and go home, but as a despereate woman I said, this might be my messiah, why not give hime a trial.
He had a back pack, and looked nothing like a medical doctor. He brough out a plastic bag and took my blood sample. It was so unprofessionally done and he puntured my hand, 3 times before he could get a blood sample. He said he wld treat me with pregnyl as it was more potent than clomid. He injected me with the mixture.(He collected N28,000 for pregnyl and N20,000 for consultation).

He offered to show me a shorter route home on the agreement that I would pay for his taxi back home. We spoke a lot on the drive home, and he told me he works in Chevron's clinic and lives on the island. He also mentioned about some courses he took in canada. I commended his long articles and he said, oh it was easy for him to write since he types directly from his head!

Well, I went on to the internet, and was shocked to realise that Pregnly was a stimulant used to induce final stage of follicle development.Usually admistered right before ovulation. Ovulation takes place within 48 hrs of the Injection,.Our dear Dr. Haastrup administered his to me on day 3 of my cycle while I was still on my period. I told him my fears, and he said hit does not matter that different different, different times of administration. Only for him to tell me again today that he would have to repeat the dose just before my ovluation!

I further went on to the interent to get more information and I was shocked to see that most of the articles he posted on his tread were directly lifted from a fertility clinic in india. www.drmalpani.com.

this is amazing. . . . .
i don't blame you though . . . .trying to conceive can lead women to desperate acts. . . .just dust yourself and move on!
some women have been led to herbalists and all sorts because of their desperation to concede. . . .

i will just suggest you take a hiv test and be sure the needle used to administer the drugs into your system wasn't infected.

mbulela:
kai, you are such a hard case.
you just choose a position and defend it,irrespective.
you be lawyer?
anyway you win.

i am not a lawyer.
mind, i haven't said macheda is better than welbeck. . . .
all i said was they have the same ability. . . . .and one is not better than the other.

mbulela:
welbeck is not the sliced bread that fergie claims but he is a better striker and has a better future at united than kiko.
please post the records of both in the youth and reserve teams.

better striker? no
better future? yes.
welbeck is a local boy. raised in manchester and he's an english player.
kiko will return home one day, welbeck will be in england forever so i can understand fergie doing all his possible best to safeguard welbeck's future.

Welbeck was the player of the year in the reserve team the year before he went to Sunderland,so he can't be as bad as you claim.
Welbeck has had chances where he did not perform but that has also been the case with Kiko.
you talk like Welbeck has not scored in pre season games.

macheda was also the academy player of the year in his debut season.
he finished as the highest goal scorer for the under 18 that season as well. . . .

medjai:
Could you simply apply your aptitude for consistency in something other than being a dunce? It would do you oodles of good. . . So he who cops the most assist is the most creative player? Do I have to school you on this? Being creative does not start and end with having high numbers for assits? There are other things like key passes, chances created, how much you can dictate play, etc.

you are a consummate simpleton.
of what essence is this creativity if it cannot propel their teams to glory?
who the heck is gareth bale and samir nasri in the grand scheme of things in the premier league. . . . .nasri had a brilliant half-a-season and in medjai's fickle-mind, nasri is world class. bale had a brilliant match with inter and all of a sudden, bale is better than sliced bread.
this animal forgot these two players have had mediocre seasons after mediocre seasons before they got into limelight last season for few months.

i reiterate you should donate your brains to lab rats.

There are people that give the pass before the pass that results in a goal. Like your daft arse stated earlier, creating an assist depends as much on your teammate that will convert your assist into a goal. Nasri had one assist last season, so did Bale, can we say they're not creative? Modric has only had 5 assits since 09/10 season, can we say he isn't creative. You can create 1000 chances and none gets converted into a goal. Malouda created the most chances last season yet Nani had the most assists. Of course, the dysmorphic ape you are would never get this.

stop putting nasri and bale in this discussion. they are mediocre players.
i cannot be discussing ronaldo and messi as brilliant players and you are thrusting nasri and bale in the argument. they don't score enough goals, they don't create enough goals. if you wanna buy into the media hype of london journos, be it in your own head. nasri had only one assist last season(same as van der sar). . . . .i don't see how that makes him a creative player. . . .and i am sure an obdurate fellow like yourself would use the same word "creative" to describe messi as well. your standards are in the pits. if you were to choose world xi, i am sure nasri and bale would feature in your team. bloody asswax!

Forlan was the best player at the last world cup and was great at the just concluded Copa America. Doesn't that tell you that his coach didn't do enough to harness his talents? Kanoute since moving to Sevilla have won more trophies that Spurs have within the same time frame. He has gone on to win the African Footballer of the Year award.

ferguson didn't do enough to harness forlan's talents or forlan couldn't cut it. this boy is a billy-goat.
have you checked the number of games forlan played @old trafford before his arse got shipped out to la liga? kanoute who was a mediocre player at west ham and spurs became a king in la liga. the league with the most porous defence in the whole of europe. young guiseppe rossi(a man utd academy graduate) scored 32 goals in la liga last season. . . . .he couldn't get into the first team in the english league. pique(a united apprentice that was in the same level as johnny evans) is now the best defender in la liga within few days of joining la liga and you have the idiotic chutzpah to say la liga is harder than the premier league. . . . . .ronaldo's best in the premier league was 42 goals. . . .in la liga, he scored 54

i'll let neutrals draw their conclusion here. . . .

He would never have smelt that at Spurs. . . If brains were dynamites, you wouldn't have enough to cause a vibration within your bogus cranium.
Beckham peaked in 99 when Figo marginally pipped him to the World Footballer of the Year Award in 2001?

if brains were dynamites, yours wont punch a whole in a wet paper bag.
beckham was second in 99 to rivaldo. man utd just completed a treble and that was beckham's best season as a footballer. the 2001 award was a farce. united had been dumped out of europe and beckham did nothing as a footballer that year apart from scoring a freekick against greece to book england's qualification. like i keep saying - media hype mostly hovers around these awards.

The same van der Vaart that was one of the best signings last season and had some Player of the Month award to his name? I don't know what made you so daft but damn! It works. See the way Pennant is having fun at Stoke City. He could hardly make it to the subs bench at Zaraogza.

one of the best signings? and he took spurs exactly where? he couldn't even qualify them for the champions league.
hernandez had a better season, odems had a better season. . . . .had chamakh stayed grounded, he would have had a better season as well.
van der vaart brought some magic to spurs but in the end, it wasn't good enough.

look at this reprobate mentioning pennant having fun at stoke city?
that would be the same jermaine pennant that graduated from the arsenal academy, played for arsenal, played for birmingham and liverpool before moving to spain?

so you are trying to tell us pennant is having a brilliant season on the back of going to zaragoza where he scored exactly zero goals in la liga?
blimey, you woulda been better off as a monthly menstruate instead of polluting the atmosphere with your idiocy.
"jermaine pennant is enjoying himself in stoke because he came from la liga" . . . . .what a dolt!
look at the human-mutt i have been wasting ma time trying to convince. . .

RuuDie:
@ Coogar,
I wonder why you keep up with this argument~I am a UTD fan, when CR7 was named WPOTY, I had a gigantic poster on the wall in my study of a UTD kid in OT carrying a placard with. . . . . . "RONALDO BEST IN THE WORLD" emblazoned right across. As fans we support our own; I remember the RVN vs TH14 arguments of back in the day (I used to vehemently side for RVN). . . . . so I think I have an idea where all your "love" for CR7 stems.

there's no love for cr7 or whatever you might call it.
these are bare facts staring down in your faces and you have refused to admit.
look at messi outside barcelona and compare his performance in a barcelona shirt. . . .you would admit there's a huge disconnect.
why is there this disconnect? argentina have quality players in their midst. . . .why is messi not doing it like he does for barcelona.

But to tell you the truth. . . . .Barcelona can never take CR7 for free! He'd have to go to La Maisa for 3 years before he sits on the FCB bench.

but they took david villa, alexi sanchez and zlatan. . . . .in your own words, villa and ibrahimovic are better than ronaldo, right?

Rooney is far better footballer than CR7 - never mind that he doesn't score as many goals.

i am sure wayne rooney will dish you a dirty slap for comparing him to ronaldo.

Yes!!! If he likes, he should pack thunderbolts in his boots ~ that boy just doesn't have a football brain! & this is where the problem of our generation lies. . . . . .stats, stats, stats. in this argument the numerals belie the facts!
Even in the way Messi strokes and caresses the ball, we can see that it is not agi'di!
& spare us the crap about the quality of the "team" ~ RM have as much quality as Barca do in every department!

the way messi caresses the ball is your standard?
no problem then. . . . .benayoun is a better footballer than ronaldo.
happy now?

medjai:
Fabregas is not worth his onions because he never won a league title. Do you make a living out of being daft? David Ginola, Matt le Tissier were never worth their onions because they never won a league title? Zola was never worth his onions? If Ronaldo is worth his onions, he would have won the La Liga?

if you compare cristiano ronaldo to players like zola, fabregas, ginola and matt le tissier then you are not qualified to be human. you are sub-human.
something coogar will call a human-mutt!

The same Bale was PFA player of the year last season, you are third world reetarded.

on the back of beating maicon. an award most football fans ridiculed.
nani, nasri, van der vaart and chicharito had a better season than bale last season. but pfa is decided by footballers(majority of them are daft) and the timing of the voting is also flawed - so i don't always expect the best players in the league to cop that award. gareth bale is not even in the top five wingers in the league.

How many awards did Rooney win last season? He must have had a horrible season.

wayne rooney had a disgusting season by his high standards. . . . .something he even said himself.
it was so bad berbatov and hernandez outplayed rooney in every game last season.

Is this where you bag the doofus of the year award? Europe with poo teams like Faroe Islands, San Marino, Luxembourg, Andorra, Cyprus, Finland, Estonia, Wales, Northern Ireland, etc? The weakest teams in COMEBOL region are Bolivia, Peru, Venezuela, Ecuador and these teams can hold their own against some of the world's best teams.

this is why your mama should have named you "toolie"
the qualification in the south america is like a normal league system where all the teams play each other and the top five qualifies. too easy.
in europe, the top teams are seeded and at least 2 huge teams play in the same group with only the winner guaranteed direct qualification and the 2nd in group would be in the play-offs. teams like faroe islands, andorra, cyprus just make the numbers, they can never ever qualify.

We saw what that they are capable of at the last Copa America. Venezuela finished fourth. In COMEBOL the top teams like Brazil, Argentina,, Uruguay, Paraguay, clash on a regular and there are teams like Chile and Colombia that are also very good. In Europe, because of seedings, top teams hardly ever face each other in qualifiers. They only meet in friendlies or in the Euro or world cup. It was an average Denmark that grabbed the automatic ticket ahead of Portugal in qualifying for the last world cup.

they are capable of nothing. argentina and brazil had a disgusting tournament. brazil were so bad they failed to convert a single penalty when they got eliminated. argentina were so disgusting, they had more men on the pitch for 45 mins and they could not beat uruguay on their home soil. leo messi(the bestest player in the universe since creation) was on the pitch and he was subdued.

only a fool would compare the quality of teams in europe to that of south america. only brazil and argentina make the grade in south america. do i need to list the number of european teams that have won the world cup in comparison to south america? were you born utterly brain dead?

If Argentina were in Europe, Messi's goal record would have entered 6 digits.

of course. . . .messi's goal record would have entered 6 digits in europe but he could not crack it in the same continent that had fat ronaldo scoring 62 goals in 76 for brazil. . . . .romario 55 goals in 70 for brazil. . . . .56 goals in 78 apps for argentina. . . .etc.
messi is shyte for argentina. . . . .he knows it himself that he's shyte without xavi and iniesta.

Yet Zlatan was benched by Bojanito towards the end of the season. The same Zlatan was sold for 25m despite being bought for 69m. Big players do big things in big games. You slimy man-lover, after all the dicck you suck, you still have an excuse for a brain.

social reprobate. . . . .zlatan wasn't bought for 69m. . . . .it was a part exchange for samuel etoo and cash. . . .i dunno where you got your £69m from and zlatan wasn't even worth that amount in the first place. . . . .he came into barcelona and scored goals.

Only foool like yourself would have a wankfest over Ronaldo's goals. He scored more than twice as much penalties as Messi scored. Banging in goals after goals when there was nothing to play for anymore. Where was Ronaldo and his goals when Messi was deciding the El Class a living out of being daft?

if you take out the penalties from ronaldo's goals, he still outscored messi.
the bit about ronaldo scoring when there was nothing to play for anymore is the rubbish messi fan-boys are putting out for their serial w@nking.
when exactly did messi decide there was nothing to play for anymore when last season's la liga was all about messi versus ronaldo since day one?

where was ronaldo and his goals when messi was deciding el clasico? that must be the daftest statement coming from a beast of burden like yourself? you have turned the arguments back to square one. the fact is. . . .messi plays in a better team. whatever messi does in that better team will be magnified. the same messi that has scored 100 goals for barcelona in the last 2 seasons has a disgraceful 17 goals in 60 apps for argentina.

and argentina is a team that has got aguero, tevez, higuain, milito, cambiasso, veron, etc in their squad.
what is so great about messi if he's a hero for barcelona and zero for argentina. when maradona did it, he was hero for both club/country. fat ronaldo, zidane, van basten, cryuff, di stefano, etc. you are a disgrace for sucking on messi's phallus when the facts prove he is a nonentity if he's not wearing the barcelona shirt.

i am sure you w@nk to messi's picture on your wall every morning. you ignorant onanist!
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StarBoard:
@nateevs,
You're suddenly listening to coogar because he's putting up a case for chelsea?
Someone who once told you your midfield wasn't better than Arsenal's?
The same coogar who on this thread mentioned that your team was inferior to ours despite AVB and all?
Now all of a sudden,because Mata is on board,it's all over.
This is bordering on laughable.

putting up a case for chelsea? how?
so you don't think if chelsea acquire modric and mata, their midfield would be super-boosted with talents?
when i said chelsea's midfield was inferior to arsenal. . . .it was because of the number of mechanical robots in there. mikel, ramirez, essien, lampard, etc have no flair. only benyaoun plays with flair and his quality at best is mediocre.

now, chelsea are going for broke and they are adding modric and juan mata.
be honest with yourself, these acquisitions would change the dynamics of their midfield. they now possess masters of disguise passing, unpredictable and elusive players. . . . . .midfielders you cannot second-guess what they are about to do with the ball. if you are not worried about chelsea then i'd like to have what you smoke every morning.

mbulela:
Danny Welbeck will not be the number 1 striker at united anytime in his career but at this present time,he has done way better than kiko in realising the potential they both have.
Kiko has been living on the hype of that villa goal for years.
Danny has so much more to his all round game than kiko and even as a goal scorer in the youth and reserve teams i doubt Kiko has a record that puts Danny to shame.

welbeck graduated from the united academy and fergie overrates him so highly. i remember fergie boasting few years ago he's confident welbeck would go to the last world cup for england. he played welbeck in high profile games then and the striker did nothing with his chances.
kiko's record for man utd's under18 and reserves is far better than welbeck. . . .and have you forgotten his clinical goals in the pre-season?

mukina2:
Hello There,

Are you interested in Moderating this section?

You must be  an active member of this section of the forum.
Passion for this section  as in  Do you post here?
Spending enough time online every day to keep the section clean.
Knows, respects and Enforces The Rules of Nairaland.
ready to work with the other co-mods.
Someone who is consistent and if for any reason(s) they will not be available will let us know or makes necessary arrangements to keep the board going.

If you are interested please say  so on this thread.

Thanks
Mukina

i nominate mamagee!

mbulela:
When i saw that bold part, i realised you have been joking all along.
Welbeck is not a typical english striker by any stretch of the word.

of course, he is. . . . .
how many times did he lose possession last night. . . . .simple passes he could not control.
he looked gangly, gawky and nervous wearing the united shirt even at home. . . . .it was after his goal he started playing with confidence. . . . .spurs were tired too so it helped welbeck's cause. . . . .danny has the same ability as kiko. one is not ahead of the other.

9jafetish:
Every single guy that has ever came up to me has ONLY wanted to use me.
They would lie that they wanted a relationship with me ,just to get some or have a girl to play around.
all of them have been childish,and slow.


so tell me where can i find guys who are serious and not childish ,am i curse or something.
i don't even wear clothes that indicate i am EASY, heck i don't even show skin and i am very quiet.
if i am curse please tell me what the cure is?

you are the cause of your own problems.
stop dating boys. . . . .seek for men.

debosky:
Last season is over (in case you didn't know that)

it's part of the stats. . . . . .league games are league games.

I don't really care about the 'signs' - we have one leg in the CL group stages. If we succeed tomorrow, we have achieved the most important requirement for August.

which leg? 1-0 going to italy isn't a leg.
what you have is a toe in the cl group stages, not one leg.

Our initial fixtures are tough and could have gone better, there is no doubt about that. But teams have started the season poorly and gone on to have great successes.

find me one example where arsenal started the season so poorly and gone on to have great success!!!

debosky:
There is no disgrace in losing to Liverpool, and the most important game of the three thus far has been won. Regardless of the signings made, this stretch was always going to be difficult.

As long as we qualify tomorrow, the worst will be past.

there is a disgrace. . . .
what you fail to acknowledged is this rot didn't start now because arsenal's fixtures were against liverpool and newcastle.
how many games did arsenal win in the pre-season? you failed to win the emirates cup. . . .
furthermore, how many games did arsenal win last season after the carling cup final? do the ratio and tell me the signs are not ominous.

debosky:
I agree 100% - ultimately, that convincing will come not in terms of player signings, but in terms of performances.

we have seen the performances. . . .
arsenal have not won a league game this season. . . .
and i read some appalling statistics about arsenal winning only 8 of their last 27 outings.

[quote author=Mr_TA link=topic=716327.msg8990349#msg8990349 date=1314122189]Currently it is obvious Welbeck is ahead of Macheda in development its not even close. Macheda might end of being better in the long run but as it stands Welbeck is well ahead as that loan spell really allowed him to come to grips with the rigours of top level football experience. Macheda hasnt had that.[/quote]because welbeck scored last night automatically puts him ahead of macheda in development? dang it!
the same welbeck was shyte for one hour. . . .his ball retention is abysmal. he gave the ball away more times than any player on the pitch. the goal buoyed his confidence and by then tottenham had surrendered.

even before macheda went on loan. macheda could retain the ball.
kiko was a pure finisher. his passes are tidy, he retains the ball well and without him, united were on the brink of a massive defeat against villa last season at villa park! macheda brings the continental style of play into the team. welbeck is a typical english striker. . .all brawns, less brains.

He had the opportunities in some big games and he has done well but we wont get many chances and there have been reports around the club that he has an attitude problem. Hopefully he sorts himself out and he has enormous potential but he needs to get his head right and he definitely needs a loan spell to play regularly and develop.

macheda has always delivered when put in action. . . . . .i wouldn't blame him for the ones he failed to influence because in most of those games, the general performance have been appalling. whenever macheda gets the quality service, he puts the ball in the net or creates a sweet assist. he was instrumental to the nani chip of gomez 2 seasons ago at old trafford when united were chasing chelsea in the title race.

Im still not convinced Welbeck will be a number one striker at united though.

not in a million years. . . .at best he would be number 3(same as macheda though).
i am not convinced one is better than the other at this stage - i don't buy into the welbeck hype like skysports have been doing all day.

medjai:
Silva had 15 assits in all competitions. Silva topped City's assits chart last season, his debut season. Silva created 73 chances from 2564 minutes of play. Nani created 78 chances from 2668 minutes of play. Nani only marginally edged Silva despite playing more minutes. . . Silva is creativity.
And where on earth did I compare Silva to Aguero, you filthy menstral rag?

you must have been born with a gaping hole in your head. silva had 15 assists in all competitions, nani had 18 assists alone in the premier league.
what's the basis for comparison. you told us earlier silva is the most creative player in the epl, now you are saying nani marginally edged him out, which is which? geriatric donkey, you are. . . . . .check your facts before you open your cesspit mouth on a forum, you decaying sanitary towel

The same Forlan was the best player at the last world cup. Kanoute has gone on to win multiple UEFA cups with Sevilla.
Beckham, Owen, Woodgate, Hleb, Robben; 'chairmen' in the EPL all came to La Liga and they couldn't cut it. van der Vaart, a Real Madrid flop, came to the EPL and what a hit he has been since. 13 goals and 9 assits in his first season.

yes, the same forlan that was the best player in the last world cup was an epl reject. . . . .the same kanoute that was chased out of tottenham hotspurs became a king in la liga. . . .so was van nistelrooy. beckham, owen, woodgate were all washed up by the time they joined la liga. beckham peaked in 99, not in 2003 when he joined la liga.
the same van der vaart that got tamed only last night by a rookie(cleverley). . . . .van der vaart my arse!

What were Giggs and Ronaldo doing when Robben drove Chelsea to back to back titles?
What did Fabregas win with his gazillion assists? So it's about trophies won now? Matt Le Tissier never cut it in the EPL? Gareth Bale and Ashley Young are yet to cut it in the EPL? I wonder if you have daftness for a talent.

the same robben that was out injured 70% of his time at chelsea? you should be used for experiment. it's sad people like you are free when animals with better mental abilities are used as lab rats.
if fabregas is worth his onions, he would win a league title in 6 different attempts. . . .reasons he ran to barcelona where his hardwork can be crowned.

bale is a player? see this mugu. . . . . .gareth bale is a product of the media hype.
he cannot clean the boots of ji sung park. . . . .his hype led to his downfall. . . .i watched him labour last night against chris smalling(a defender that was in a non-league team 18 mths ago).

ashley young is getting there. . . . .he is yet to dominate the epl like ronaldo or henry did. . . . .those are the players you should be mentioning not fools like you who are flash in a pan. very soon, you will tell us peter crouch also dominated the league and reh reh reh.
if stupidity is 1 pesewa, you would be a bazillionaire in dollars.

Except you score a the winning goal, you've done nada? You are an archetypal mor0n.

you are a troglodyte. . . . .when the awards were shared last season. david silva did not feature in one of them.
throughout last season, david silva never won player of the month. for over 9 months of premier league action, silva never dominated for a month.
against the big sides, he was anonymous throughout.

Messi plays different roles for both club and country and he has been Argentina's best player in their last two major competitions. Where was Ronaldo and his goals when Portugal had to qualify through the back door for the last world cup?

see this genetical saphead. you want to compare the tough european qualifiers to south america where brazil and argentina are the major powerhouses? you must have been born a fool. ahead of portugal are germany, italy, spain, france, england and few countries of the eastern european bloc. . . . .only brazil are ahead of argentina in south america, you know nothing about football. go and plait some pubic hair for a change.

You daft sprog, I asked you for their chances created. Messi does well because he has better teammates? Yet we saw Zlatan Ibrahimovic play with these better teammates and couldn't do jack.

zlatan scored plenty of goals for barcelona. . . . .he couldn't do jack?
21 goals and 9 assists in 40 appearances for barcelona is not doing jack?
i said it before, you should donate your brains to your great great great grandma. . . .she would make better use of it in her grave to count termites.

My point is that scoring 40 yarders and headers, which is what makes Ronaldo special and complete are no big deal. Can Ronaldo score the wonder lob Messi scored against Mexico in 2007 Copa America? Can Ronaldo give 30-40 yard inch-perfect passes? Can Ronaldo play four or five one-two passes with a teammate and then score?

ronaldo has scored all kind of goals, messi hasn't
there's no kind of goal ronaldo hasn't scored but you idiotic barcelona fans cannot see beyond the red mist. one fool posted the other day no other play has scored the goal messi scored against getafe weaving through 4 defenders. . . . . .whereas, ryan giggs scored a better version of it against arsenal(more quality team) in 99 fa cup semifinal when his team was a man down.

Ronaldo can't come close to Messi.

in your deluded the world.
he has already proven he's more than messi. he met messi in la liga and he broke the la liga scoring record within few months of joining madrid.
ronaldo takes no prisoners - he scores goals!

[quote author=kay_pumpin link=topic=682102.msg8990050#msg8990050 date=1314119496]And oh Frimpong is just as reckless as he is on the pitch with his tweets.Hardly has the news on Nasri's deal hit the net that the little geezer tweeted:
Only he doesn't know money isn't,but the love if it.And i dare say,the lack of it.

Later when Wilshere congratuled Nasri on twitter and said he will be missed,Frimpong called Wilshere out and tweeted:
A sarcastic way of telling Jack,dude wouldn't be missed and shouldn't be eulogised. [/quote]well, i don't blame frimpong.

less than 12 months ago nasri said this. . . .
"I think we have more merit as a club than those who have built their teams with millions of pounds."