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phreakabit:
Social drugs, recreational drugs, they are still drugs. Ecstasy,hallucinogenic mushrooms and LSD are said to be recreational drugs but they can and do cause flashbacks and bad trips. A person with a bad trip can commit unbelievable crimes while tripping.

same as chloroquin, paracetamol, piriton, etc. anyone using those without medical advice is a drug user. . . . .continuous use and the person is a drug addict. nearly all medicine is toxic with potential lethal effects.

Sagamite:
Not as rampant as when it was made cool and an aspiration.

lord of mercy. . . . .

So you admit it is not a "need"? It is a carefree attitude in societies where people are well informed?

it's a bit of both. . . . sometimes they need to for the required level of performance and sometimes they just need it to step down.

I really don't see how you can compare addictiveness of alcohol or food with crack?

death is the outcome for all of them. . . .besides, more money has been spent treating diseases related to food & alcohol than rehabilitating drug users.

You give such simple arguments without any thought.
Let me give you an analogy.

A punch is painful. But believe me, it is different when you get a punch in the face from Halle Berry and if you get one in the face from Vladimir Klitschko. I will advise not to take too much from the latter.

sagamite. . . .death is death! we see hard drugs as demonic because of the way the media has made it to be. marijuana is a recreational drug. . . firstly, the record on marijuana encompasses 5,000 years of human experience. secondly, marijuana is now used daily by enormous numbers of people throughout the world. estimates suggest that from twenty million to fifty million Americans routinely, albeit illegally, smoke marijuana without the benefit of direct medical supervision. yet, despite this long history of use and the extraordinarily high numbers of social smokers, there are simply no credible medical reports to suggest that consuming marijuana has caused a single death. . .

by contrast aspirin, a commonly used, over-the-counter medicine, causes hundreds of deaths each year. the most obvious concern when dealing with drug safety is the possibility of lethal effects. can the drug cause death? so since the punch from halle berry and the one from klitschko can both cause death - it should be a concern. who knows - i could die from a single punch from halle berry(my physical composition might vary from yours or vice versa).

Try and give weightings to things in your arguments and don't be giving simple ones.

i reiterate, death is death!

You are right on that. It does not make it any less irresponsible.

it does. . . . .obama and david cameron used marijuana as students but they knew where to draw the line. without any self-control, who knows which of the rehab centres they would be by now, perhaps in prison or even death!

Sagamite:
Cut this crap, mate!
It will be silly to say the gangster rap music has not affected the way black American youths have been killing each other in gangs.

sagamite, there have been black on black violence before rap. . . . .there have been gangs before hip-hop.

Taking drugs is were the irresponsibility began.

i disagree. some of these drugs are social drugs. as long as it's a consumable quantity, you will not even be arrested.

You know it is addictive, you know it is not good for you and you know you don't need it.

sagamite, alcohol is also addictive. people take it for recreational use. the irresponsibility starts when people take too much.
hell, food is also addictive - why don't the authorities stop obese folks from going to eateries to pile more junk foods in their system. they know it's not good for them and yet they still take it. like i said, taking it is not the irresponsibility. . . .lacking the self control to overdose is the irresponsibility.

It is a No-Brainer for people with brains.

you will be surprised at the number of leaders who take drugs. . . . .you will be!

phreakabit:
Theres a HUGE difference between kids and teenagers. Lets not get things mixed up please. As for the Fela bit, is Nigeria being the highest consumer of marijuana a coincidence ?

where did you pluck this stat from? are you saying people started using marijuana after fela was born?

davidylan:
Perhaps because they are just more impressionable or due to poor parenting? I partially agree with your point of view and i put this down to the poor parenting skills on parade today. Too many parents willing to give up their responsibilities to teachers and the church.

mostly, it's poor parenting - which is why i think people should not be harsh on amy winehouse. fu[i]c[/i]k knows the kind of background she had.

Sagamite:
No 1, there are millions of kids that were influenced and are still being influenced by Fela.

in nigeria? i am yet to see anyone in his panties, half his face painted and walking around with a fat joint in lagos.

No 2, I can only speak for myself. I was not exposed to Fela and his way of life, I had great parents and I am more intelligent and confident than 99% of people. That mixture makes it harder for me to fall to peer pressure than the average Joe. You can see my consistent divergent views that I put on NL. I am happy and comfortable not to conform. Most people aren't. FACT!

what is the fate of other kids who didn't have great parents? is it their fault they turned out to be the degenerates of the society?

Cut this bullshyt, men.

Don't be coming with this dismissive view of proven, accepted and irrefutable scientific and empirical research done by world experts over wide samples that are being paid fck loads in the world's top unis.

Cut that crap.

Go and read about "Power" in some social science textbook.

let's agree to disagree. . . . . .i believe bad parenting is the major ill in the world today.

davidylan:
perhaps because you were well aware it might lead to your obituary?

so why should it affect the other kids? i mean - look at the hypocrisy. you see kids urging a movie heroes(james bond, jason bourne, jack bauer) to go on and kill the bad guys. as soon as you see arms on celebrities (chris brown or jay-z), the media slams hard on them that they are bad examples to the same kids who support violence on tv. where do we draw the line?

Sagamite:
Really?

Needed it?

You must be having a laugh!

No, they have no self-control and are mostly carefree. It is a popular artistic trait.

If I can't shoulder a responsibility, and I am an adult, my brain will never tell me the solution is drugs. That is a daft move.

Am I suppose to have pity for such people?

HELL, FCKING NO! Good riddance!

taking the drugs is not where the irresponsibility lies - it is how much they took!
not every drug user overdoses or dies. . . .as we all know, too much of everything is bad. . .same goes with food, alcohol and even water.

Sagamite:
You are completely wrong.

You need to read more about youth brain development and social systems (especially influence). Most people will try to be like popular people, more so kids who are, by nature, more impressionable. In Psychology, it is called "Referent Power".

Because some few kids were able to know what to pick and not pick should not mean we can assume all kids can or should be able to. Natural Science will tell you that their brain is still being developed and will be shaped by social influence.

Science, mate.

so how come you and a million other nigerian youths didn't get influenced by fela anikulapo kuti. . . . . .where was natural science then? referent power is just a myth created by lazy parents to blame these celebrities(who have become scapegoats). i don't see how what artistes say or do affect kids when their school bus-drivers swear at other motorists, their parents smoke and they see things themselves. i never stuck my mum's scarf behind my shirt and jump from a skyscraper because i wanna emulate superman.

Sagamite:
That is a silly argument.

We can as well say, considering the amount of people that have died at sea, we should never go fishing in the seas again.

Or considering the amount of people that die from mining, we should stop mining.

You have to look at the need, requirements and benefits of an activity and balance it with the risk.

How does driving, in the slightest, tiniest bit compare with drug taking?

How does a bad habit compare with an economic necessity?

just like driving is a necessity to you. . . . .drugs are necessities to fiends. besides, these are artistes required to put high level performances every time they hit the stage. not every one of them can shoulder this huge responsibility so the godfathers in the industry introduce them to drugs. now which of the great artistes(dead or living) never took drugs - i cannot think of one. bob marley, fela, mike-jack, 2pac, notorious b.i.g, da grin, etc. they all used drugs social or recreational - and they used it because they needed it.

Sagamite:
But on the other hand, phreabit's point is that it is only natural and inevitable that the actions of people publicly praised and adoration will rob off on most children.

seriously. . . . . .it is only when parents fail that they blame the derailment of their kids on celebrities. i listened to rap all my life. i never used drugs, smoked, kill people or join any group of gangstars. as a sensible child brought up in a cultured environment, you cling onto the good parts of these celebrities and delete the chaff. . . . .that is what i will expect my kids or any other kids out there to do.

a black boy once told 2pac he wanted him as a role model. . . . .2pac told him he is a lost child cos martin luther king or malcolm x should be his role model. these celebrities did not enjoy the same background most of us had in a normal family set up. some of them were raised by crack addicts, dope fiends, etc. it is a bit unfair to expect them to lead the life they never had or got used to growing up. we are all products of our environment - let us stop criticizing people for what they are.

BlueDiva:
Not as high risk as taking crack.

The likes of Amy have a death wish.
"Undeveloped minds" according to Freud.

food & alcohol kill more people than drugs. check your facts!

Sagamite:
I don't drink.

How are the other 2 activities senseless?

considering the number of innocent people that have died driving. . . .is it reasonable to now say if mr x dies by auto accident tomorrow morning then he's silly?

phreakabit:
Read and understand! My statement asked "do you wish your daughter grow up to be like her?". What does that entail? The power of the media should not be underestimated. It is an extremely powerful tool that plays a huge role in the way kids turn out to be in future. As for the question you asked, that't true but remember Chris brown lost the teen choice awards "simply" because he hit scratched Rihanna.

what i wish for my daughter has no bearing. . . .it's just a charade. . . . .you can put a daughter in the abbey and still turn out to be a slut.
i'm sure amy's parents never wished her to die this way at the tender age of 27. . . .but what has happened has happened. i doubt chris brown cares about teen choice awards or what not. these people have their individual characters before they became celebs - that will not change because they want to be "good" role models to you or other kids out there. they don't care about such! they just want to live their lives(the way they want)!

BlueDiva:
Seriously, i"m a fan.  
This dude is ready to take on the whole NL alone.

Davidylan knows how to throw punchlines.
Suprisingly good for a religious man.

i love you for this.

Sagamite:
Pastor, I have sinned! (Whatever the concept of sin is)

But I am reasonable with my sins. I take care and do not do silly things that can affect me in a negative way.

If anyone is willing to engage in activities they know is bad for them, they know it has destroyed many lives and they know it can destroy theirs, GOOD RIDDANCE. I have no pity!

Say no to drugs!

I do! It is not rocket science. I don't know what is their to gain.

you don't drink?
you don't s[i]h[/i]ag?
you don't drive?

do you know the statistics of the number of people that have died because of these 3 activities?

BlueDiva:
I"m entertained.
I like it when u push peoples buttons. . .

bluedivaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

phreakabit:
Very true, by now she go dey hell dey provoke for all these comments. BTW, do you wish your daughter grow up to be like her? If not then keep quite! [b]She was a BAD role model, [/b]one the world can do without honestly, besides its not like she died of a natural cause or something unpredictable. She threw away the gift of life.

this is naivety!

she was just who she wanted to be - she never asked to be anyone's role model. she's an artiste, a human being like you. was fela a good role model to you? michael jackson? d'banj? etc. if i become a celebrity tomorrow, will i ask to be anyone's role model? if you need role models, use john newton, faraday, einstein or avogadro!

Sagamite:
I will never have pity for any adult that suffers the most likely faith of a bad activity they freely and voluntary decide to get involved in. More so one that has happened to their peers over and over again.

To me, GOOD RIDDANCE. The world is becoming over populated, if there are those volunteering their space without being forced, I will take it with gratitude.

And I do have a functioning heart.

She can go to bleeping hell for all I care (which is virtually zilt).

this is drugs we are talking about - most times, they wanna get off it but they just can't. the money is there to keep feeding the habits. . . .then her whole lifestyle is revolved around partying, clubbing, shows, more drinks, more drugs, hotel lobbies. it's not as easy as you think - initially, she wasn't forced to use drugs but after a while, she would be helpless even when she didn't want to continue using it.

you need to see them when rehabilitating - they become cold turkeys.

denzel2009:
Most of the Judges in UK courts are Pete Doherty's friends.

he musta been caught 30 times in the last 4 years and he keeps evading jail time. i like pete doherty. . . .seeing him, you would think he's an innocent school boy until you see his face "after hours". . . .stoned like shyte!

denzel2009:
How's Pete Doherty doing it all these while and has not OD'ed?

pete doherty?   how this guy keeps avoiding prison must be the 8th wonder. i don't think pete will die anytime soon. he chooses his moments.

davidylan:
huh? Go to youtube and see real TALENT there.

to be fair, she is ultra-talented. she has this frank sinatra-esque aura.

Outstrip:
SAY NO TO DRUGS. May her soul rest in peace

it hasn't been confirmed yet she died of overdose. . . .met. police are actually taking her house as a "crime scene". it could be murder or suicide. let's not be too judgemental.

davidylan:
who let this girl out of her room?  

I give up . . . a lecture on how to embed this pls?
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Koolking:
this is my problem with celebs. they are supposed to be role model. people want to imitate them, but unfortunately, most of them are living despicable lives. such a talent gone just like that due to reckless livestyle.

Tear drops on my Guitar,  Amy you will be missed

celebrities are normal human beings like you. . . .forget the facade. before they became stars, they had habits. . . .and when lots of cash and fame enters the equation, it only boosts the bad habits. more drugs would be taken, more alcohol would be swallowed and if care isn't taken, death is imminent.
sadly, amy winehouse had her bad habits before her fame and sadly, she passed away!

justwise:
Sky news is reporting now that Amy Winhouse has been found dead at her house in North London

Just 27 yrs of age, her battle with drug and drink has come to a sad end.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2018020/Amy-Winehouse-confirmed-dead.html

speed, caine, crack, heroin, amphetamines, alcohol. . . .death was imminent!

ultra-talented star but she couldn't control her addiction.

rest in peace, amy. . . .i will miss u.

[quote author=tpia@ link=topic=710353.msg8774583#msg8774583 date=1311430949]if yall like make more videos and add my name. I have said my own.[/quote]i just got the drift of this comment. . . .

oh yea, there was a video of your hairy fat Bottom bouncing and vibrating around one of the male members of this forum some months back. legend has it the babe is you. dang it. . . . .you were born to s[i]h[/i]ag but you really need to shed some weight. . . .otherwise, you might drop dead in the next few years. . . .you are 40+ already. tread with care with the junk foods.

proudly9ja:
How would you know he's a castrated turkey? emphasis mine

The only thing I fault Bendtner for is effort. That's one thing Chamakh has over him and that's a very massive edge I agree. Which is the only reason I'm fine with Bendtner leaving the club.

i learnt that when bendtner had his medicals at birmingham way back.

ritchboy:
Full Time

very boring second half apart from podolski trying to beat up squillaci.

[quote author=tpia@ link=topic=710353.msg8774862#msg8774862 date=1311434196]@ coogar
love your profile picture.
so obvious you're of gorilla lineage and ancestry.[/quote]to be honest, i got that picture from your family compound. legend has it that the gorilla is your grandfather after he was cursed for stealing the chief priest's yams in the village barn.  

but seriously, take your gaay romance with dayokanu to dating and sexuality section instead of disturbing us with it here and ruining an interesting thread.

if anything, you are the one that is homoerotically involved with aloy/emeka aka hotfunmi. a quick search convicted you as a flaming lez. aloyemeka got tired of you and changed to male. . . . .in return, you followed suit. i really hope you find help. it's been more than a decade and it seems there's no end to your erratic mental state.

denzel2009:
This tpia is a one man army. How many people can one fight with at the same time? I can't wait to see the public encounter with cuddlemii

i am putting £500 on cuddlemii to blow tpia's head off with a ball. . . .

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proudly9ja:
Well, Il wait till Ive seen a few games.

I must say though that Im not comparing him with Marouane. Im not a fan of Chamakh in any way. Id rather have Bendtner ahead of Chamakh, but that's another topic for another time.

not fair on chamakh at all. . . . .he is miles better than bendtner. bendtner is a turkey, a castrated turkey if i may add.

[quote author=tpia@ link=topic=710353.msg8774737#msg8774737 date=1311432709]please keep your gaay relationship with dayokanu out of people's faces.
haba, na ba force to show your attraction for him everywhere?
everything na dayokanu dayokanu.[/quote]roflmao. . . . .whoever accursed you with your affliction is wicked. . . .it's not humanly possible for tpia@ to act like an adult.
i will leave you to your misery.

it gets tiring abeg.

what is getting tiring? your homoerotic rants? wondering how you can sit thousands of miles away and sniff who is gaay and who isn't? the rate at which you ptyalise homoerotic comments is staggering. yet, you are the chic posing as a man to score with nairaland chics. perhaps, tpia has some chlamydia to distribute to her fellow nigerian females.

be original occasionally and stop describing your mother and grandfather's v.aginas here.

your grandfather has a va[i]g[/i]ina? tpia, tell us your family compound so we can get bbc to do a comprehensive documentary about your hermaphorditic lineage. is this the reason you have been advertising yourself as a man?

who is the wife and who is the husband between the two of you sef. Enlighten us plz.

you are the wife, i am your husband! you sad coffee-shop slut!

proudly9ja:
Take it easy nah, I never said he's a dud footballer. dud is too harsh a word. I only said I wasn't impressed.
So far Ive only seen slightly above 20 minutes of him in a friendly and yes I like what I see in terms of his movement. But I'l wait till he's played a few games for us in competitive matches. Plus then, the impression was that he would be coming to replace Nasri.

i take it then as you never saw gervinho until now. . . . .he's ridiculously skilful. you haven't seen anything yet. . . .just get the ball to him quickly enough(ball to feet) and leave the rest to him. you can easily see the gulf in class between him and chamakh in the first half. gervinho is the african chicharito plus he also tracks back(he's that energetic).

[quote author=tpia@ link=topic=710353.msg8774583#msg8774583 date=1311430949]^^like i said, you're very vulgar and crass if that's your excuse for what you typed.
i'm very disappointed in you and i advise you to modify what you wrote because that was uncalled for.[/quote]https://www.geeza.com.au/geeza/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/dawson_crying.gif

i'm not even going to go into what dayokanu wrote since he has a habit of harassing females at will and he refuses to rein in his uncouth habits but insists on engaging in potty talk all the time.
his credibility is firmly in the gutter at this point and nothing will change that.
if yall like make more videos and add my name. I have said my own.

tpia, you need to relax. dayokanu is just joking with you. you shouldn't read any meaning to whatever he says to you. he persists because you overreact a lot. when you start ignoring him, he will find another member to haunt. i dunno anything about videos or adding your name. people come here to read stuffs and have fun. no grudges! now smile.

now, do not think i cant reply you in the same manner in which you referred to me.

tpia, you wouldn't do that to coogar - i am your biggest fan, remember?

still biding my time for now because i'll first give you a chance to correct yourself.

somebody help me. . . . .i am scared. . . .
i think it's time to run for cover

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duduspace:
and I would bet yu had one too many yesternite,   I posted on here that I wanted him here ahead of Hazard at a point when I was doing my season reviews.

are you having your periodic brain-farts again this afternoon? my post was directed to proudly9ja, i even quoted him but your pinocchio attitude has gotten better of you yet again. . . . .

own goal? jenkinson puts it in his own net? arsenal arsenal. . . .why?

^^^

if you know this much about her, why didn't you help?

aaron ramsey is having multiple brain-farts. . . .gave the ball away 5 times in 1 min in arsenal's penalty area

theo walcott does not understand football. 2 against 1, any ball into the box would see chamakh with an open goal.